An avatar fired its doomsday on a pod while in Jita.

Masterplan best plan.

This was a CSM request, and CCP got it done in record time.

more *a..* kissing please. these small tweaks should have been made a long time ago but seems for the CSM there made in "record" time *facepalm*

Masterplan best plan.

This was a CSM request, and CCP got it done in record time.

Small changes that only bring positive features to the game are always nice.

Does this affect only kills after deployment or will it be retroactive?

Masterplan needs to post here to receive likes

Nice feature. Now how about a brain scan module that shows me a pilot's current implants BEFORE I kill him?

This was a CSM request, and CCP got it done in record time.

Very nice.

In before the "kill mails should not be allowed at all" posts.

Just out of curiosity, will the mail also include active boosters? Would that be difficult to add?

Will this be applied retrospectively?

Nice. This is how it's done



Sorry but no. It's something CCP have talked about for 4+ years and most definetely not done in record time. I'm still a supporter of the CSM despite it all but they really don't need you guys to tell them the simple **** like 'put implants on killmails'

Unless you mean record time as in an extremely long time in which case I can come up with some counter examples



Anyway postive post not negative

Will this be applied retrospectively?

Unfortunately only new mails, as the implant info is captured at point-of-death

\o/Now all we need is to be able to see which medical clone was involved, even if it doesn't show the player's actual SP or SP lost. Clone Grade Alpha + multi-year character = Mmm.

We've been telling you about the cool things we'll have for you in the winter expansion and there's still plenty left.

In this new dev blog, CCP Masterplan reveals the future of pod kill mails.

Hi!


This is a good idea, will make a note of it

awesome, we have been asking for this for years.

<3 love <3

This is a good idea, will make a note of it

Total waste of developer time,

Pandering to the killmail whores, shameful

Even better than the PI improvements. *\o/*

Damning with faint praise?

An avatar fired its doomsday on a pod while in Jita.

Masterplan best plan.

This was a CSM request, and CCP got it done in record time.

CCP Guard/Masterplan, would it be easy to make that you can use Ship Scanner/Cargo Scanner to scan pod to see what implants the pod has?

Boost to pirate pod ransoming!

+1 for the idea of a bio scanner.

Give it something like Biology III / Cybernetics III for a T1 (can only be used on immobile targets) and V/V for a T2 (can be used on moving targets, and scans fasterGǪ for those nasty ebil Jita camps )

any chance of showing destroyed NeX items?

Dear CCP!

You'ar about to make some changes in killmail sysytem anyway, so can u please add killmail id in the text of mail? same number as we have in API system. like row killID="19825588" in xmls. and add it to mail like

2011.10.20 08:23

MessageID: 19825588
Victim: Text example
Corp: Deep Core Mining Inc.
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Destroyed: some ship
System: somewere
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 1068337



it will alow us to find duplicates much easy then now, KBs rigth now check if it alrady have mail by comparing name, time and ship type. so for example if i drop 10 shuttles from my carrier and then u smartbomb them, u will have 10 exacly same mails. KB will reject all exept 1, ID field will solve that issue.


thnks.

This +1

Masterplan best plan.

This was a CSM request, and CCP got it done in record time.

Might actually make pod ransoming make a come back.

+1 as well. Might be good to make it an encrypted ID number as well so that we can have a checker system to verify the mail is legit. but I'd only let the people who make these sites know how to confirm the check digit.

They already show up if they're in the cargo. If the item is being worn it's sadly (and bizarrely) indestructable.

Nice feature. Now how about a brain scan module that shows me a pilot's current implants BEFORE I kill him?

lol what

Very nice and much appreciated change, only thing missing is a killmail for selfdestructs!

and measure it against your peers.

Not so bizarre. You're naked or in a skinsuit when you're floating around in your pod. You only wear NeX things while mucking about in station. How you magically manage to bring your entire wardrobe with you station-to-station is another matter entirely, though.

For the sake of staying on topic...

Awesome change. +1

+1 to the lol what.

Although a verification API would be nice. Given two arguments kill_ID and kill_Hash it would simply return true or false. Even something crappy and cpu efficient like MD5 would suffice.
After all, if someone launches a 2nd preimage attack on a killmail to get on a titan kill, let him have his 15 kilobytes of fame.

While this would be fantastic, I'm sure there are a number of technical difficulties to overcome and there is surely better work to be done before they get to perfecting our epeen measuring devices.

I was pull to a parallel universe were CCP does what we request.

Only one more thing:

Allows us to change chars without the need to LOGOUT!

Y'know, while you're on killmails --- can you put a fix, or a flag, in place to distinguish between destroyed/dropped BPO's and BPC's...?

Dear CCP!

You'ar about to make some changes in killmail sysytem anyway, so can u please add killmail id in the text of mail? same number as we have in API system. like row killID="19825588" in xmls. and add it to mail like

2011.10.20 08:23

MessageID: 19825588
Victim: Text example
Corp: Deep Core Mining Inc.
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Destroyed: some ship
System: somewere
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 1068337



it will alow us to find duplicates much easy then now, KBs rigth now check if it alrady have mail by comparing name, time and ship type. so for example if i drop 10 shuttles from my carrier and then u smartbomb them, u will have 10 exacly same mails. KB will reject all exept 1, ID field will solve that issue.


thnks.

A- only because we need people that self destruct to avoid giving people km stopped when aggressed.Still work to be done ccp!

Eh? Are you saying if you've aggressed someone that they should not be allowed to self destruct? Since self destruct isn't instantaneous (last time I checked) then you should be able to pop them before it happens. If they still can pull it off, then you don't deserve that KM IMHO. Try harder.

Think he meant that self-destruct should yield a killmail if someone was shooting them at the time. Granted, in the case of subcaps this shouldn't be that much of an issue, but when you start dealing with caps and supercaps it should give a mail.

Perhaps a "Good Effort, you almost got him" mail? After all self-destruct, for whatever the reason, is still self-destruct. It should stay as is just for the LOLs.

Don't forget, a self-destruct is like an 'I give up' only explodier...

Nice feature. Now how about a brain scan module that shows me a pilot's current implants BEFORE I kill him?

What do you think?

We've been telling you about the cool things we'll have for you in the winter expansion and there's still plenty left.

In this new dev blog, CCP Masterplan reveals the future of pod kill mails.

This is a good idea, will make a note of it

I remember killing a few blingy ships, putting the fits into EFT and thinking "...my god, that pod probably cost almost as much as the ship."

Soon I'll know for sure!

dear CCCP devs.
it's simply obvious and something must be done! an ability to salvage body of poded pilot and make attempt to extract some of intact implants from his head.

like salvaging a wreck, via special module - "skull trephination" action.

a grave digging and body thieving will have a new taste in cold and dark universe of eve.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure if the ID field is readily available via the client, but I'll look into it

No, no and no!!
I cannot believe you did that.
Now you encourage anyone to pod anybody that comes your way. That shouldn't be. Instead of getting a cadaver-party you should take the killmail of the game.
It is bad enough to loose an expensive ship you had to work for a long time, only to get blow up by some scared psychopaths in the first place.
Killmails only belong to the pvp tournaments!

KM whoring ruins this game. Logi are crippled by it(the need to km ***** to prove you were in a fight save people!) and it leads people into ******** concepts like the idea that a self destructed ship somehow isn't a loss for your enemy.

By being a KM *****, you are losing fights that you would have won if you had stood back and said 'Yeah, they are DEAD!' because they are getting your tears over them losing a expensive ship.

While the isk war is important, its led people into forgetting that the winner of a fight is he who achieve his objectives, even if he lost 3 times the isk worth of ships. You get tiny alliances claiming they won because the alliance could only field a fleet with less than a single of the aggressors ships, but managed to get 1 lucky kill.

No, no killmails for self destructing. Please, no more killmails at all.

Bring sanity back to how the victor of a fight is decided, and quit penalizing the force multipliers who don't actually shoot anyone while they make the difference between victory and loss.

Include clone grade as well please!

Reposting a rant I made elsewhere regarding killmails

I would rather see CCP taking the turn towards showing LESS information in killmails.

There are less and less tradesecret GÇô all you want to know about someone can be found on BC, which kinda demystifies the pilots that some of us look up to.

Edit: On a second note. Changes like this GÇô more information in killmails GÇô strikes unevenly against small gang / solo pilots since a module / implant fitted on a solo pilots ship / head has a much greater effect on his hers combat abilities than a module / implant fitted on a ship that is a part of a larger gang. Greater disclosure of combat capabilities becomes more and more detrimental as your gang shrinks in size.

Sure, it's not the end of the world for small scale PvP GÇô but it' not a step in the right direction if we want to fight "the blob".

This is going to lead to primaries being ignored whilst KM Whores are distracted volleying pods

THIS is overkill.

Perhaps a "Good Effort, you almost got him" mail? After all self-destruct, for whatever the reason, is still self-destruct. It should stay as is just for the LOLs.

Thank the Lord! YESSSSSSSSSS


I *TOLD YOU* CCP was going to shine!


Now everyone will be suiciding pods for the mails and the tears will flow like the Nile in Monsoon season.

+1 and much love

We've been telling you about the cool things we'll have for you in the winter expansion and there's still plenty left.

In this new dev blog, CCP Masterplan reveals the future of pod kill mails.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure if the ID field is readily available via the client, but I'll look into it

Pod kill mails with the implants listed? sure why not, but is that what your spending time on, really?

- Fix High/Low/Null, get them mixing a bit at least! (gate security enhancements, small holdings, alerts, so many options)
- Add ships, always loved (and you're doing this so great)
- Put incentive to be in Null
- Make Null not selling your soul to alliances

so much to do, and kill mail details while 'nice' shows that the focus is wrong!

Would it be possible to add in clone type to the pod mails for a more accurate pain caused calculation? When you die and realize you forgot to update your clone, you feel horrible. Just think how good you can feel when you kill someone and you find out they forgot to update their clone!

addin such small features as implants list is very easy, fast to make and for sure will be apritiated by the comunity. and can be done by 1 man in a short period of time. rebalanse nullsecs, economy etc is a tack for whole company and can ruin a game if there will be some mistakes.

easy and nice things first. that is a masterplan of ccp i belive

I was pull to a parallel universe were CCP does what we request.

Only one more thing:

Allows us to change chars without the need to LOGOUT!

But I never said that the implants of clones should be forever shrouded in mystery. You want to know what implants that pilot had? Fine, retrieve the body, take it to a medical facility and find out yourself. A chance-based, affected-by-skills result may (or may not) tell you what you want to know. In short, you have to work for it. Getting this information handed to you on a silver platter like this is Wrong. .

They would have to have

1. a highly standardized way for killmail text to be produced from the information provided by the API (so all killboards and the ingame combat log always produce the exact same text)
2. an API that will provide hashes of entire killmails by KillmailID for verification purposes (presumably it would provide a number of hashes for different languages of killmails)

While this would be fantastic, I'm sure there are a number of technical difficulties to overcome and there is surely better work to be done before they get to perfecting our epeen measuring devices. Like making sure that the Tornado is only one of 4 racial, 4th Tier battleships in the coming expansion :D

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure if the ID field is readily available via the client, but I'll look into it

You could make a better hash using IDs so it would be independent of language and item name changes (although still prone to problems with closed corps/deleted pilots). Not that I expect, or particularly want, CCP to add a hash or verification function.

That would actually be more complex and difficult, as it foists the responsibility of having a working item type conversion table available onto the killboard software. Hashes for multiple languages is a vastly simpler solution, and it also allows easy automatic determination of the language of an existing killmail if you didn't have a way already.

Nice feature. Now how about a brain scan module that shows me a pilot's current implants BEFORE I kill him?

Faith in CCP rising.....

Reposting a rant I made elsewhere regarding killmails