I would rather attack convoys, in low sec and null and get fun fights out of it.

GÇ£put in the effortGÇ¥ and GÇ£be deliberately stupid and inefficientGÇ¥.

what effort?

I've just spent 3 pages discussing why i think the current situation is far from ideal. Dishonest claims that JFs are "invulnerable" don't advance the discussion at all though.

This is another utterly moot discussion. The reason we took the CSM for null and will keep it in perpetuity is so that chucklefuk outsider-looking-in ideas like this don't get implemented. It will never happen.

There not "invulnerable" but it takes MASSIVE errors for you to die.


Go and ask your alliances Logistic wing how often they really die, and if they tell you its to anything other than the random ganking of there NPC corp JF alt, fire them as there completely incompetent and should not hold that office.


My friends 7 year old plays eve for 8 months now and safely supply's his corps 37 members with supply's in NPC null sec. You know how many times he has died doing it in the last 4 months scene he started? NONE.

A 7 year old can out smart every pirate and gate camp alliance member and leader in eve, how? Checking local, and not going afk in less docked, and NPC corp. tell me if a 7 year old can do it how often do you think the people that do it every day and know every trick in the book and every way it can be safely done for there alliances die?



SO, is it to easy? YES.

And you would need to defend these items in transport, and people would wish to attack them.

And interesting game play in born.

And you would need to defend these items in transport, and people would wish to attack them.

And interesting game play in born.

PL dump their supers onto your convoy. Now what?

Try listening to people WHO LIVED IN THE TIMES YOU SPEAK OF AND KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

Its nothing at all to do with ego, I am simply saying what used to happen and why your idea would hurt this game.

More useful nullsec industry slots benefits highsec players by giving them more free highsec industry slots.

be a man, cyno in some heavy interdictors and have at them.

Also all this would do is force fleet sizes to get smaller, reducing the scale of fights. Pubbies might consider this a good thing because THE BLOB is the excuse du jour for not leaving the safety, comfort and convenience of hisec but ultimately interest dwindles and people stop playing.

You said you fully lived in the middle of someones space with out JF, and a good industry system and constantly got fights?

Compared to now?

You first. Let us know how that works out for you, though.

I too, hunger for node death and blueballs.

You first. Let us know how that works out for you, though.

Nah. It's just that the former makes the latter a moot point.

oh hohoho, we think we're funny, do we, tippia?

It is so tiresome to see people arguing to not make x,y,z changes because it will hurt the small corps living out in null space. There is no small corps in null. Only coalitions. If you can point out a non-gimmick corp living in null that relys only on itself for logistics, you are lying.

The arguments to not make changes because it will hurt the little guy and only help the big guy is ridiculous and full of holes.

Define "relies only on itself". While we're at it, define "small."

Define "relies only on itself". While we're at it, define "small."