Ya this is just what we need lets make Battle Ships even more useless and unwanted out side of pve.

well it's normal given they all have nice tech2 variant, et a noob will never have a reason to test those little things, given he will quickly have a better option.
that's sad, but it would need a total revamp of all ships to make this better, and i don't think a good result is possible...

Blimeh, a dev response after the first couple of pages, it's like the old days again

I'm just curious what role these new BC's will fulfil.

The idea is awesome, but the idea behind titans and motherships (supercarriers) was also Awesome(TM) and look how that turned out.

EvE doesn't need awesome ideas when ships are added, it needs roles which ships are designed to fill otherwise you end up with the problems we've got now, ie supercarriers and to a similar extent, T3 Cruisers (jack of all trades, but oddly also extremely good at said trades, like the Tengu).

If this idea with the BC's using next size up weapons works out nicely, would CCP be willing to take the idea and apply it to Destroyers? They *really* could do with a lot of love and have needed it for many years now.

Won't the tier 1 and 2 battlecruisers become useless?

It's not the T2 variants, it's the tiers: cyclone vs hurricane, prophecy vs harbinger, etc.

Thank you for all your replies and feedback. The majority of the posts show excitement! Roughly a quarter of the posts I have read (and I have read them all) had a positive attitude but were a bit hesitant. I saw less than 5% of the posts that considered this idea as being really bad.

Most of the hesitation results from lack of solid numbers so far as you haven't seen the stats of the new ships or how exactly they will work. Won't the tier 1 and 2 battlecruisers become useless? Won't the new battlecruiser have a too strong tank, making them overpowered? Won't the tier 2 battleships become useless? What about the Gallente ship, will it at least this time not get the short end? And how will tracking work, a fast ship with large weapons? We saw more questions and read them all!

CCP Ytterbium is working on a new Devblog with more information about the Tornado and its brothers in arms.

These ships from the EVEkill Top 20 think you are talking crazy.

3 Abaddon 52906
4 Armageddon 25130
5 Maelstrom 24284
6 Tempest 22567

But hey I am sure the 175kEHP Abbadon is very scared of a Ship with 25% the Tank that it can hit.

Really if anyone should be scared of these things it should be.

1 Drake 141384
2 Hurricane 85968

These guys which can get hit by those weapons and can not out run the New Battlecruiser.

To My Hurricane:
Sorry, I've found something else.
Something vertical

so now there is really no reason to fly t2 ever again

This numbers realy show nothing.

1.) Did they get poped in the attempt to do PVE? i.e. In a wormhole/in a sactum/in a Incursion/when rating?

2.) Did they get poped in a pvp engagment before they fig out sniping BS's get scan locked and pind down before they can go to warp again?

so on and so on.

Secondly I would realy like to know how you know the new BC's are only going to have 25% of the tank and cant out run a BS?

The ship looks badass. I'm looking forward to the other ones

How about sentry-boni for the gallente :) Not like the sin, i mean REAL damage and tracking. And a drone-scooping range bonus to make up for the immovability muahaha

Looking forward to the next blogs

Not emptyquoting, just bringing this back up. Please, for the love of pete, make the Gallente one not suck. Our standard BC is worse in literally every way to the Minmatar BC.

Long story short: All those C1 POS towers that we couldn't get battleships to are going down this winter...