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Yazzinra
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:00:00 -
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im assuming theyll still be able to fit ganglinks?
you've said the gallente boat is beautiful, but is it functional?
i loves my myrmidon. Any clue if this will be an upgrade, or a sidegrade?
i can haz pictur plz? |
DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:03:00 -
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I want more EVE physical models. Possibly as airfix style glue together yourself kind of things.
am I the only one?
EVE Radio, bringing music to the masses; http://eve-radio.com
Purple Sabbath, with Xaphod; Sunday 12:00 game time.-á Now including the Lemmings Leap |
GRIEV3R
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:05:00 -
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this is awesome!
can't wait to see the gallente one! |
Rei Nakasone
Enders Of All Things
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:05:00 -
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Come on guys, show the new Caldari BC some love :D
Hoping for a fast mid range torp boat that is capable of taking on a BS in small gangs and capable of some loooong rage cruise bombardment. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:05:00 -
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ovenproofjet wrote:
Don't get too excited, my bet is they'll only be able to use the lowest tier of Battleship weapons (without ******** fits). Which is a smart move by CCP imo cos they are some of the least used guns atm.
And we have no idea how many weapon slots there will be either. Even with 8 highs, it could be such that only four L weapons will fit. |
Spyker Slater
LASER TECH
For Medicinal Use Only
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:06:00 -
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Maul555 wrote:Harotak wrote:Ydnari wrote:DJ P0N-3 wrote:Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality
Open your eyes |
DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:09:00 -
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Spyker Slater wrote:Maul555 wrote:Harotak wrote:Ydnari wrote:DJ P0N-3 wrote:Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality Open your eyes
Look up to the sky?
EVE Radio, bringing music to the masses; http://eve-radio.com
Purple Sabbath, with Xaphod; Sunday 12:00 game time.-á Now including the Lemmings Leap |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:09:00 -
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DJ Xaphod wrote:Spyker Slater wrote:Maul555 wrote:Harotak wrote:Ydnari wrote:
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the sky?
and see
Latest PVP Video: Laktos Intolerance
Sard Caid does not endorse this message. |
Spyker Slater
LASER TECH
For Medicinal Use Only
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:10:00 -
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Just imagine how nice it would look with some new stars in the background .... |
David Xavier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:12:00 -
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BeanBagKing wrote:I can't wait to get the gallente one so I can fit a caldari shield tank on it and some large minmatar guns =D
I fear this will be the case... but hey let's be optimistic, I am sure it will be a killer with ACs. :) |
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Rei Nakasone
Enders Of All Things
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:14:00 -
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David Xavier wrote:BeanBagKing wrote:I can't wait to get the gallente one so I can fit a caldari shield tank on it and some large minmatar guns =D I fear this will be the case... but hey let's be optimistic, I am sure it will be a killer with ACs. :)
I hope they give it bonuses to hybrids, new uber brutix anyone? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:15:00 -
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Dang...just realized the ships are going to be "TIER" 3 not "TECH" 3...oh well...I guess it makes sense to do Tier 3 before going Tech 3.
Technically Tier's are a made up naming convention by the players. I don't think I have seen anywhere on a ship that states what tier it is. We just put the ship into a tier category based on it's states compared to other ships of its class.
Still...I see a new favored ship to my Drake in the future...so glad I have BC5...oooh...I can do Amarr as well...maybe I will train up for that Tornado after all...
Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Bratwurst0r
Austrian Industrial Corporation
Universal Constant Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:15:00 -
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This will be interesting, potentially nerf every other ship into the ground. Let the games begin (till summer emergency-nerf). |
The Offerer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:16:00 -
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I support this product and/or service.
Good job, CCP. |
Jaenen
Recettear Acquisitions LTD
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:18:00 -
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Oooh, this looks awesome. Pocket battleship designed to speedtank? Be interesting to see how you pull it off, CCP. As for getting one for each race... I don't know about the rest of you, but I really hope the Amarr one is a Khanid design, spamming out torps and/or cruises. That would neatly get around the cap issue of Tachyons/Megabeams/Megapulse, and leave them open to make the Caldari one a railboat.
Can't wait to see the other three, and the hybrid rebalance. |
GRIEV3R
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:19:00 -
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My $0.02 predictions:
(assuming equal numbers and no logi)
New BCs vs Battleships:
Battleships win because they have the tank. The new BCs will get shredded by BS guns just like regular BCs because of their sig radius.
New BCs vs HACs
HACs win based on speed.
New BCs vs Tech 3's
Tech 3's **** face, no contest at all.
New BCs vs AF's
AFs win like a pack of piranhas
(not assuming equal numbers)
New BCs vs Supercarriers:
New BCs win easily.
New BCs vs regular carriers:
Fighters will rip New BCs to shreds, but New BCs will do huge damage to carriers. If spider tank, carriers win. If no spider tank, New BCs win (barely).
New BCs vs titans:
With sufficient numbers, new BCs win. Otherwise, the fight takes to long and reinforcements show up.
tl;dr
i think the New BCs will work best against supercarriers. Mixed in with other subcaps, idk. It's complicated. |
Dennie Fleetfoot
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:21:00 -
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DJ Xaphod wrote:I want more EVE physical models. Possibly as airfix style glue together yourself kind of things.
am I the only one?
No, your not the only one. |
V'oba
Cosmodynamics
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:34:00 -
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I suspect these new ships will become the new cheap(ish) weapon of choice for hit and runs against BS gangs. They'll probably also be quite good against cruisers/ other BCs if they can keep range.
And if they get tackled they're ******, which i think is a fairly even trade off. One interceptor or AF would ruin these thing's day. |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:35:00 -
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hey CCP will we also get tech II tier 3 bc anytime soon?
Also what about npc pirate faction bc?
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David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:38:00 -
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V'oba wrote:I suspect these new ships will become the new cheap(ish) weapon of choice for hit and runs against BS gangs. They'll probably also be quite good against cruisers/ other BCs if they can keep range.
And if they get tackled they're ******, which i think is a fairly even trade off. One interceptor or AF would ruin these thing's day.
to be honest a good logi fleet should be able to keep them alive..... we already see the effectiveness of welpcanes vs supers.
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Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:48:00 -
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GRIEV3R wrote:It's complicated.
Highlighting the most important part.
This just in, eve pvp a bit more complicated again.
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GRIEV3R
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:50:00 -
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Mioelnir wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:It's complicated. Highlighting the most important part. This just in, eve pvp a bit more complicated again.
Yep. And that's definitely a good thing.
I for one can't wait! |
wicked cheese
Imperial Research Inovations
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:50:00 -
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even though the blog says its going to be the tier 3 battlecruiser i still wonder. the concept of these ships using oversized guns will be new to eve, which i one reason i doubt they will be T1. when bc's first came out they did not have fleet bonus's, most T1 ships didnt have unique bonus's when they came out. (by unique i mean new concepts brought with them(caps barges and freighters being the exceptions; but they also recieved their own catagory)). ship cost and advantages/disadvantages aside; its just out of ccps structure to do that.
chances are it wont be T2 as they would either have to reskin the tier 2's or introduce a T1 regular varient. although this is what i believe they should fall under with an appropriate tank to justify the cost.
i kinda lean towards the thought of it being T3. it would seem to fall under advanced technology category, along with the fact that theres only 4 T3 ships and a shitton of T1. but i would have figured a T3 frig would have surfaced long before a T3 bc would, unless they couldnt find a good role for them.
this release may lead to frigs with med guns and battleships with cap guns. much like covop dictors and the AF/HAC/CS that are set up similar did. which is why i dont see it just being added to the T1 list.
but they still did present it as the tier 3 bc (could the T3 cruisers be considered Tier5?). theirs only 1 of each T1 destroyer and 2 of each T1 amarr/caldari industrials so saying the field was less than the other T1 sub caps wouldnt be a good argument. the only reason i could figure for intentionally misguiding people is so that everyone and their mother didnt go crazy on the T3 market (see: PI update). only time will tell but i honestly dont see this being T1 unless its got a cruiser sized tank |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:53:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote:Does anyone else see these new BCs getting eaten up by swarms of smaller ships?
"Captain! Tordado sighted dead ahead!"
"Send in the assault frigates!"
i would like if they design them that way.
able to kill their sized companions, but very vulnerable to ants.
seems close to what they want to change supers to btw |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:54:00 -
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I endorse this product..... Pocket Battleships FTW |
Garbad theWeak
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:55:00 -
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Will we need to train a new skill to use these ships (ala command ships)?
Also, changing skill plan to perfect large projectiles and hybrids! |
Arethanerielle Xhiril
Black Plasma Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:01:00 -
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Maul555 wrote:Harotak wrote:Ydnari wrote:DJ P0N-3 wrote:Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality
Look at me, and tell me if you've known me before. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Laktos wrote:CCP have said they will not tank like battleships. That does not mean they will tank like battlecruisers, the dev blog did not put a limit on how little they will tank, only on how much they can tank. Yes, but the wording is indicative of a rather flawed thinking: they get the benefit of BS guns, and the supposed price for this is GÇ£not a BS tankGÇ¥ which is not a price at all. Quote:I imagine they will only be able to field the tank of a shield hurricane or brutix. Which will balance out their large dps and make them massive primary targets in fleet battles, diminishing their value. No, it does not balance it out. It means they don't lose any tanking ability compared to the other BCs, and get extra damage output out of nowhere, with no drawbacks. If they were given the tanks of a shield-tanked thorax or rupture, then we'd be talking balance: weapons one size higher GÇö tank one size lower (edit: ok, not necessarily shield tanked at that pointGǪ but still, no longer a BC-level tank).
My bet would be that they have none of the traditional BC tanking special abilities (which is what makes current BC exceptional in this regard). Typical BC stats with no tank bonus makes for a "relatively" easy kill.
Hopefully I'm right and you are wrong on this one. 
Otherwise I'll stand beside you singing the songs of protest, and make another entry into my "Book of Grudges".
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Grytok
KL0NKRIEGER
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:07:00 -
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We definately need more stuff like that, as if blobs of Hurricanes and Drakes aren't annoying enough allready :facepalm:
CCP continues to miss the things that really need fixing, like sov-mechanics, true-sec and moon-minerals. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
69
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:08:00 -
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Quote:even though the blog says its going to be the tier 3 battlecruiser i still wonder. the concept of these ships using oversized guns will be new to eve, which i one reason i doubt they will be T1.
Stealth Bombers proved the concept had merit (granted, they are a T2 ship).
If the concept works, and it does work well, why not introduce it to a standard Tier 3 ship as well...
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
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