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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.06.15 01:17:00 -
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DremDorun wrote:Nova Kierra wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:it is fun. but i'm sort of convinced the system is getting abused some. people not being honest in their voting. tsk tsk! Eurydia what makes you think that? If it's the high losses numbers, it could be, not entirely sure, be related to not having a skip button. As I've mentioned above having a skip button presents its own problems and potential abusing, but not having it people will just click random image if they don't like either avatars in order to see next results. Here's an example with Wins: 40 Losses: 245 lol Someone really hated me showing up in top 14 highest rated a couple times :)
Sorry about that, after the update it seems that losses count was doubling each time you vote. There are now over 150,000 losses. In these short few hours it surpassed number of wins threefold. Fixing it right now.
I will be resetting the stats as as result of this change. That's only fair to everyone.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
DremDorun
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2013.06.15 02:28:00 -
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Nova Kierra wrote:Sorry about that, after the update it seems that losses count was doubling each time you vote. There are now over 150,000 losses. In these short few hours it surpassed number of wins threefold. Fixing it right now.
I will be resetting the stats as as result of this change. That's only fair to everyone.
Or maybe somebody simply downrates potential winners. Your own avatar is @ Wins: 72 Losses: 87 at the time of the posting. |
Khira Kitamatsu
637
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Posted - 2013.06.15 02:50:00 -
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LOL saw a character that was top rated the other day with 1-win and 322-losses 
Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.06.15 02:55:00 -
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DremDorun wrote:Nova Kierra wrote:Sorry about that, after the update it seems that losses count was doubling each time you vote. There are now over 150,000 losses. In these short few hours it surpassed number of wins threefold. Fixing it right now.
I will be resetting the stats as as result of this change. That's only fair to everyone. Or maybe somebody simply downrates potential winners. Your own avatar is @ Wins: 72 Losses: 87 at the time of the posting.
I believe the reset didn't affect everyone. I see many characters still with high loss / high ratio. I did have wins in the range of 70 before. Most of the top characters right now only have 3-5 wins, so those with a few hundred definitely don't make any sense. I am pretty sure that bug has been eliminated.
@JAG Fox: That bug you reported about where wins count was decremented was due to the design. When multiple people load the website, they have their own copy of character data. So when someone wins it's not just incrementing count but it's incrementing according to your data. Then if someone stumbles upon your avatar after your win count increased, it will overwrite the wins count, thus either bringing it down or leaving it the same instead of increasing.
This problem should be fixed now.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
JAG Fox
GunStars
27
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:31:00 -
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good to see you're on it Nova! i know something was not right..
Kisses!Foxie. |
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:38:00 -
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Update: There seems to be something really strange going on. The reset did work, but crazy wins and losses numbers still kept showing up, by the thousands, and sometimes even decreasing. Not sure what's going on there. Wins and Loss count should equal to each other in any case.
I just pushed another update, and things seem to be working fine now. After 5 votes, the database has in total 5 wins and 5 losses. If something weird happens again then it's an external fault, or one sneaky bastard bug.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
Thetabetalpha
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:47:00 -
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You may wanna add the "skip" counter, unless it is not possible.
Actually you could add it or use it as factor to lower an avatar's rating.
If someone gets skipped all the time - lower the rating.
Or at least it could provide interesting data.
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JAG Fox
GunStars
27
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:49:00 -
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Thetabetalpha wrote:You may wanna add the "skip" counter, unless it is not possible.
Actually you could add it or use it as factor to lower an avatar's rating.
If someone gets skipped all the time - lower the rating.
Or at least it could provide interesting data.
i like that idea! if i skip it's because i don't want to choose from 2 equally stupid pics..
also having a problem where one or both images are not loading. this is happening a lot!
edit: i'm also pressing "s" when an image doesn't load. i guess i could just hit reload. if you don't like the "s" = a loss idea Nova, then make "s" reload the page.
Kisses!Foxie. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
3938
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:59:00 -
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JAG Fox wrote:Thetabetalpha wrote:You may wanna add the "skip" counter, unless it is not possible.
Actually you could add it or use it as factor to lower an avatar's rating.
If someone gets skipped all the time - lower the rating.
Or at least it could provide interesting data.
i like that idea! if i skip it's because i don't want to choose from 2 equally stupid pics..
this happens a whole lot though. i personally wont be happy unless the E.T looking avatar is #1
rofl
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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.06.15 04:08:00 -
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JAG Fox wrote:Thetabetalpha wrote:You may wanna add the "skip" counter, unless it is not possible.
Actually you could add it or use it as factor to lower an avatar's rating.
If someone gets skipped all the time - lower the rating.
Or at least it could provide interesting data.
i like that idea! if i skip it's because i don't want to choose from 2 equally stupid pics.. also having a problem where one or both images are not loading. this is happening a lot! edit: i'm also pressing "s" when an image doesn't load. i guess i could just hit reload
The images not loading is an issue that was also causing loss count not to be updated from time to time. I was able to replicate the problem locally, fix is coming in now.
Thanks for the skip counter suggestion, I will consider adding it.
UPDATE: So far so good. Don't seem to be any bugs in the rating algorithm.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
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BoSau Hotim
Whale Whatchers
5518
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Posted - 2013.06.15 04:28:00 -
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Thank you for all your work on this Nova! Your a trooper! :)
Oooh, bummer... no faces loading for me yet... 
I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2431
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Posted - 2013.06.15 07:21:00 -
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Doh, the top 100 at the time of this post is totally made of not-previously-100 faces. Can't find even a single Top 100 from yesterday, not even notorious winners. 
PS: nevermind, I read about the resets... top ranker is 4:1. 
The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Mona Oskold
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.15 09:58:00 -
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Please introduce a software based button to skip, pressing "s" starts the text search in my browser, which is really annoying on the site.
Thanks. |
AndromacheDarkstar
Zebra Corp
Gentlemen's Agreement
772
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Posted - 2013.06.15 10:04:00 -
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Nova Kierra, you look an awfull lot like Asphxia Noir and now im left aroused at work while surrounded by people discussing pay grades. Do you have any advice?
Join the ZC Pub chat channel today and talk about joining-áZebra corp, hands down the best PVP corp in EVE keeping CFC killboards in the green singlehandedly |
Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out
Suddenly Spaceships.
66387
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Posted - 2013.06.15 10:08:00 -
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It's broken... I'm not 1st
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
2436
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Posted - 2013.06.15 13:12:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:It's broken... I'm not 1st
Obviously: Top 1 is 0 wins, 0 losses. Go beat that if you can!
The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:23:00 -
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I have added the skip button per Mona Oskold request.
Alice Saki, the leaderboards have been temporarily switched to sort by # of wins, until the issue is resolved where 0 wins 0 losses characters were in top ranks. You are currently #5 if that makes you feel any better .
As it is, without any additional changes it creates some imbalance due to the nature of randomness: some people will have higher number of wins while others lower number of wins, even it's a good looking avatar. Once I add in the feature that will automatically balance everyone by the median of total votes, everyone will have a fair shot of being seen, and in that case # of wins would be a pretty accurate representation of ranking system.
I have also added an image lightbox on profile pages. If you click on an avatar it opens up a nice 1024x1024 image with a semi-transparent black background. So go check it out.
@AndromacheDarkstar, I am sorry, don't know what to tell you, but I don't mind if you tip me some ISK and in return you can look at my avatar and pretend it's Asphxia Noir. 
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
The Chronophage
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:39:00 -
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left, right, right, left....... |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
35
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Posted - 2013.06.15 14:45:00 -
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I'm so bad at Eve'ing. I don't get the rules. Normally I would have expected 100 pages of flame posts about barbies in space and WiS and how this has nothing to do with spaceships. Are you telling people actually care about and craft the look of their avatars and that is ok? What's next, dogs and cats living together? |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
3939
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:29:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I'm so bad at Eve'ing. I don't get the rules. Normally I would have expected 100 pages of flame posts about barbies in space and WiS and how this has nothing to do with spaceships. Are you telling people actually care about and craft the look of their avatars and that is ok? What's next, dogs and cats living together?
Some people just like to have something to complain about. Generally, it takes shape in deriding how people other than themselves have fun. We have a word for that type of person where I come from. We call them ***holes. Fortunately, none of their type have deigned to drop in on us yet here. |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2731
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Posted - 2013.06.15 16:53:00 -
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Been years since I've seen one of these.
It's always interesting to look through peoples avatars. For a relatively limited creator, there is a real variety of faces and I enjoy browsing them in a convenient format such as this site provides.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
163
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:11:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:It's broken... I'm not 1st
I voted for you! Actually most of the usual suspects like Brit Green, Large Collidable, Akirei, Sarah Schneider, and Riot Girl make the list. Celebrities like Vile Rat, Seleene, Chribba and Mittani and most of CCP seem to fill out the list. Great list! Nova you have one of the best Intaki that I have seen! I know that the current system doesn't allow bloodline sorting (or even gender) but I would like to see how you stack compared to other Intaki since the list is so full of Achura! |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
3941
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Posted - 2013.06.15 22:02:00 -
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<--- intaki |
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2013.06.15 23:31:00 -
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Celeste Taylor wrote:Alice Saki wrote:It's broken... I'm not 1st I voted for you! Actually most of the usual suspects like Brit Green, Large Collidable, Akirei, Sarah Schneider, and Riot Girl make the list. Celebrities like Vile Rat, Seleene, Chribba and Mittani and most of CCP seem to fill out the list. Great list! Nova you have one of the best Intaki that I have seen! I know that the current system doesn't allow bloodline sorting (or even gender) but I would like to see how you stack compared to other Intaki since the list is so full of Achura!
Thanks, that's kind of you. Filtering by bloodline and race is pretty trivial to do. Just re-use the existing Top 100 page for bloodline and race. My only concern is displaying those characters all at the same time. There could be a few hundred Caldari characters and trying to load them all at once will take a 3-4 seconds to load even on a fast connection. I hate the fact that main page takes so long to load because it's pulling at 1300 characters (but who actually votes on all 1300 characters in one sitting?)
I'll try to add some kind of infinite scrolling first before attempting that feature. Someone has also asked for full list, sorted alphabetically, that one definitely needs pagination or infinite scrolling.
I always vote for you Eurydia Vespasian, unless you are head to head against Ariel Dawn, Luv Rocket, clitheroica, Antares Rai, Jaliaah, Riot Girl.
P.S. I am happy to say that the server hasn't crashed yet since yesterday. And there is only a minor discrepancy in wins / loss counts: 17305 wins vs 17319 losses. This is most likely due to people's internet connection. Each time you vote, it sends two separate requests to update: one for wins and one for losses. There could be so many reasons for one one request to not go through. Eventually i'll make it so that it sends only a single request, i.e. all or nothing vote.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
7
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Posted - 2013.06.15 23:38:00 -
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http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/92658897
Oh god my sides - honorary win in my book
Site has really nice design and functionality; guts could use some work but I guess you're on that. |
Tanuki Kittybeta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.16 01:27:00 -
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I think the points ratio should reset every time you update an avatar. Nice site, though |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2739
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:49:00 -
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It's pretty easy for people to manipulate these things if they're so inclined and have some time to waste. Especially with an easy skip option and a low entrant count.
I can't do much about the former but I did add a whole whack of characters to the mix. Plus it's nice to have some variety.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:43:00 -
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Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:I think the points ratio should reset every time you update an avatar. Nice site, though
@Tanuki Kittybeta, The problem would arise when people start abusing it and start updating everyone's avatars, including those in Top14. One person could essentially reset everyone's rating to zero. Since there is no login requirement I can't do much to check who's avatar belongs to who, or who should have permissions to update avatar and who should not.
@MrEpeen Thank you, I did notice a big jump in new characters on the site. As for the skip button I added it per request of a few people who did not want to be forced to rate two awfully looking characters. One thing I can add to prevent skip button abuse is to put a time limit, e.g. 10 skips per hour.
Creator of New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com |
JAG Fox
GunStars
29
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Posted - 2013.06.17 01:11:00 -
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good job on getting the bugs out Nova.
one thing I would like to see is the portraits with the most losses disappearing for good! lol..
secondly, i think the matching system could be improved instead of being random. why not match portraits with a similar win/loss ratio for example? the cream will rise to the top..
Kisses!Foxie. |
Khira Kitamatsu
638
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:31:00 -
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So why is it that people with bad percentage ratio are higher than those with good percentage ratio? Kinda wonky scoring system.
Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |
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