this one! https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Jaliaah amazing

Top ten women get me as a prize. Let the festivities begin!

Just a little bug I found.

When I press the EVE profile button, it just redirects me to my own profile.

I use chrome btw.

Wow...cool site.

I think I just voted 100 times. Glad there wasn't adwords right next to the buttons... just saying lol

Are you accepting advertising deals for the site?

@NightCrawler 85: I will add the report button in the next update. As for the skip button, I thought about it, in the end I think it will encourage people not to vote on a lot of portraits. You could just skip hundreds of them and vote only on the ones you like, thus creating a gap between highly attractive characters with high wins/losses count vs unattractive characters with low win/losses count.

One thing, would it be possible to put in a "pass" button?

Thanks. I have another EVE related project in works. I think you will all like it.

it is fun. but i'm sort of convinced the system is getting abused some. people not being honest in their voting. tsk tsk!

it is fun. but i'm sort of convinced the system is getting abused some. people not being honest in their voting. tsk tsk!

Eurydia what makes you think that? If it's the high losses numbers, it could be, not entirely sure, be related to not having a skip button. As I've mentioned above having a skip button presents its own problems and potential abusing, but not having it people will just click random image if they don't like either avatars in order to see next results.

Nova.. you might have a bug somewhere. I was sitting at 45/19 and I just looked and it's at 44/20? how can someone change their vote? lol..

it is fun. but i'm sort of convinced the system is getting abused some.

Nova.. you might have a bug somewhere. I was sitting at 45/19 and I just looked and it's at 44/20? how can someone change their vote? lol..

Eurydia what makes you think that? If it's the high losses numbers, it could be, not entirely sure, be related to not having a skip button. As I've mentioned above having a skip button presents its own problems and potential abusing, but not having it people will just click random image if they don't like either avatars in order to see next results.

Here's an example with Wins: 40 Losses: 245 lol
Someone really hated me showing up in top 14 highest rated a couple times :)

Sorry about that, after the update it seems that losses count was doubling each time you vote. There are now over 150,000 losses. In these short few hours it surpassed number of wins threefold. Fixing it right now.

I will be resetting the stats as as result of this change. That's only fair to everyone.

Or maybe somebody simply downrates potential winners. Your own avatar is @ Wins: 72 Losses: 87 at the time of the posting.

You may wanna add the "skip" counter, unless it is not possible.
Actually you could add it or use it as factor to lower an avatar's rating.
If someone gets skipped all the time - lower the rating.

Or at least it could provide interesting data.

i like that idea! if i skip it's because i don't want to choose from 2 equally stupid pics..

i like that idea! if i skip it's because i don't want to choose from 2 equally stupid pics..

also having a problem where one or both images are not loading. this is happening a lot!

edit: i'm also pressing "s" when an image doesn't load. i guess i could just hit reload

It's broken... I'm not 1st

I'm so bad at Eve'ing. I don't get the rules. Normally I would have expected 100 pages of flame posts about barbies in space and WiS and how this has nothing to do with spaceships. Are you telling people actually care about and craft the look of their avatars and that is ok? What's next, dogs and cats living together?

It's broken... I'm not 1st

I voted for you! Actually most of the usual suspects like Brit Green, Large Collidable, Akirei, Sarah Schneider, and Riot Girl make the list. Celebrities like Vile Rat, Seleene, Chribba and Mittani and most of CCP seem to fill out the list. Great list! Nova you have one of the best Intaki that I have seen! I know that the current system doesn't allow bloodline sorting (or even gender) but I would like to see how you stack compared to other Intaki since the list is so full of Achura!

I think the points ratio should reset every time you update an avatar. Nice site, though

I'm surpriced that I am still in top 14 :S

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Awesome site. Nice to see you uploaded the source code for curious developers like myself to scratch my head over.

Also, at this time;

It's your contest and your rules but I'd like if you didn't change them all the time. Yeah, I'm a little annoyed that I went from 1st to 80th overall.

As Mr. Epeen said, websites like this are too easily manipulated. So I wouldn't take it too seriously, its all in good fun.

Seriously!

Some skank is now in first place by over 300 votes. Script much?

It sucks that someone with the best of intentions can spend the time to put a fun site like this one together, only to have it ruined by the sociopathic player base. Guys, are you that desperate to rank in the top ten?

You know something is wrong when Mr Epeen is in the top 20. I shouldn't even be in the top one hundred.

Mr Epeen

It's disappointing to see people abusing the system when the site was meant to be used for fun. Next update will likely put a IP-address based limit on the skip button and avatar matching will go back to being random rather than rating-based.

Currently, as you may have noticed, someone can easily skip all 1500 characters, and keep voting for the same character over and over again, or write a script to do it.

I've been keeping an eye on this thread but I've refrained from posting until now as I wanted to see how things would pan out. My first instinct was that your website would cause some drama and it has managed that. It doesn't bother me that I was #3 a few days ago and I'm now somewhere near the bottom along with many great avatars, as I suspected this would happen.

It doesn't bother me that I was #3 a few days ago and I'm now somewhere near the bottom along with many great avatars, as I suspected this would happen.

I will be shutting the website down temporarily until the issue with people abusing the votes is fixed. Apparently some people just have nothing better to do than to submit HTTP PUT requests with the character IDs of a vote winner/loser.

I will be shutting the website down temporarily until the issue with people abusing the votes is fixed. Apparently some people just have nothing better to do than to submit HTTP PUT requests with the character IDs of a vote winner/loser.

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I will be shutting the website down temporarily until the issue with people abusing the votes is fixed. Apparently some people just have nothing better to do than to submit HTTP PUT requests with the character IDs of a vote winner/loser.

There is nothing you can create that we cannot mock, and then destroy.

I'm sad to hear that and I wish you find a way to prevent lamers from sucking.

Sorry, I have been busy last couple of days with real life matter, but here is an update on the status of New Eden Faces:

I have found a way to prevent voting for the same character multiple times via global session object. This session object will track character IDs of winners and losers, and if someone were to try and vote via a console by sending an XHR request they will get a nice Error 500: Already voted message. Since this is a global session object, opening New Eden Faces in incognito window or another browser, or another computer will not help the potential attacker, they will still get Error 500: Already voted. Session object is reset after all characters have been voted on, giving a fair chance for everyone to be seen.

Skip button. Initially there was no Skip button on newedenfaces.com. I added it as a feature request in the first few days that the site was up. Since then I have noticed that people would skip votes likes there's no tomorrow. In the end it just turned into abuse. You could have simply held 's' button and it would skip hundreds of characters in a matter of seconds. So with that, there will no longer be a skip functionality.

"But there are so many awfully looking characters, I don't want to be forced to vote if I don't like either of two avatars" you say. To partially remedy this problem I will create a Hall of Shame page and every day a character with the most losses will enter the hall of shame. Of course this won't go into effect right away. I'll give it a few days for wins/losses to be adjusted first.

@Skill Training Online: If anything, I should be thankful to those a**holes that were abusing the site. I know more now about general web security practices than I did a few days ago.

@S Byerley: a) Yes they (or perhaps one person) were abusing it. I was looking at the console that outputs all requests and log messages in real time right before I decided to shut it down. What was happening is characters' wins/losses counts were being updated without actually clicking on the image. It was quite easy, open REST API console, select a PUT request on www.newedenfaces.com/api/characters/:id and pass in character IDs of winner and a loser. You could send it as much as your heart desires.
b) What do you mean by [the website] being stateless? The web is stateless.

@JAG Fox: Thank you, it won't be long before it's up and running again.

@Khira Kitamatsu: Forcing users to register won't solve the problem unfortunately. This is a problem of authorization rather than authentication. There was no restrictions on API that updates a vote count for winning and losing characters. Plus I think it's nice that a website doesn't force users to register or "Sign in with Facebook". Anyone can jump in and start voting right away.
Regarding to your second question I have already done that using a session object. Alternatively I could use an IP address to see who has voted on which characters. But with session object I don't have to check who voted on what, I just check: has this character been voted on?; it doesn't matter who voted; if this character has already been voted, then no one can vote for same character twice.

@Danica Kaliinen: That level of cryptography is a little beyond my understanding but thanks for suggestion. I think this is a step in the right direction. Although I found a way to prevent voting for the same character more than once, I still don't know how to prevent voting for any characters other than two characters currently present on the screen. In other words current API design still allows to vote for arbitrary character without actually seeing it on the page (as long as no one has voted on that character yet). I don't see much potential abuse here, but nonetheless it's possible. The best case scenario for a potential attacker is that he/she may vote one time for someone from a console, but will still have to wait until all 1500+ people have been voted on before doing this again.

@Eurydia Vespasian: I know, there is really nothing to gain from jacking up the votes on an avatar contest site. It's not even a major contest website, let alone popular among EVE players. But on a bright side I am glad it happened sooner than later.

@Ariel Dawn: You must be referring to that skank (Mr.Epeen's words) that had 400 votes at the end, which 4 times more votes than the next highest rated avatar.

Also, the vote seems to get stuck when I click a face. I'll click, but it'll..not load a new set?

Try punching it

Didn't work. Tried clearing cache and other stuff, but no joy. This thing not good with Chrome?

I think I broke it again. The thing is stuck on Brit Green and Deni Aylet no matter who I click.

I think I broke it again. The thing is stuck on Brit Green and Deni Aylet no matter who I click.

@S Byerley: a) Yes they (or perhaps one person) were abusing it. I was looking at the console that outputs all requests and log messages in real time right before I decided to shut it down. What was happening is characters' wins/losses counts were being updated without actually clicking on the image. It was quite easy, open REST API console, select a PUT request on www.newedenfaces.com/api/characters/:id and pass in character IDs of winner and a loser. You could send it as much as your heart desires.
b) What do you mean by [the website] being stateless? The web is stateless.

This will happen if one the characters has already been voted on.
Quick fix is to refresh a page.
I have tested this issue specifically and very surprised to hear you are experiencing it. Did anyone have the same problem?

I can confirm this too, refresh/reload does not help.
In my case, one portrait appeared twice in a row and then it was stuck on that pair.

good stuff nova! nice have this going again.

one thing i'm not sure about is allowing you to see the wins/losses on mouse-over? this only serves to bias the selection process i think. i know for myself, if i can't make a quick decision, i will give it to the one with least wins..

I was planning to remove that tooltip for some time now. Funny, but I do exactly the same thing when I am not sure who to vote for, and always vote for the avatar with higher wins count. So perhaps in the next update I'll get rid of it. Meanwhile if you spot any bugs or vulnerabilities please do mention them.

the only bug i see is the blatant down/up voting going on.. but lol. it is what it is

there is no way akirei and others are losing half their matches.. *sigh*

Akirei Skytale

A lot of great avatars on that site, just the luck of the draw. I'll even admit I chose a different avatar vs. you when it popped up.

I am surprised that it's still running 3 days later, no crashes, no cheating or hacking attempts.

Anyway, I will be pushing an update tonight that fixes minor UI glitches and I will also be removing the tooltip with Wins/Losses when you mouse over character's name. This is to remove the voting bias.

Do you have any other quick suggestions while I am at it?

Ban Achura, give Khanid a chance.

A lot of similar avatars too: http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/90380309 and http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/93458077

Sometimes I have those moments - "wait didn't I just vote for this avatar?!" But they were in fact two different characters.

I am surprised that it's still running 3 days later, no crashes, no cheating or hacking attempts.

Anyway, I will be pushing an update tonight that fixes minor UI glitches and I will also be removing the tooltip with Wins/Losses when you mouse over character's name. This is to remove the voting bias.

Do you have any other quick suggestions while I am at it?

Ban Achura, give Khanid a chance.

It's actually mostly sebiestors that seem to be popular. I don't think the tattoo/goth look is that interesting, but then i was never into the vampire movies either, and still don't have any tats.. *sigh*

I am quite impressed with activity so far: 50,000 votes when New Eden Faces was launched, 67,000 votes after the first reset, and now we are up to 118,000 since the reset last week. All in all 235,000 votes since launch!

One thing I noticed is there are a lot of great characters with high number of wins. Everyone in top 100 has 82+ wins, and #1 as of right now has 94 wins. That's 12 point difference over 100 characters. And right now leaderboard has a few characters with the same # of wins, which makes Leaderboard position irrelevant because they are displayed in something like "first come first serve" basis.

I might take Ariel Dawn's advice and introduce a winning percentage sorting after a certain number of wins. That shouldn't mess anything up, other than change ordering of some characters in top 100.

Your website is still easily manipulated. Allowing people to vote on the same picture multiple times and to skip simply by clicking a bookmark on their browser. On top of that, there is very little diversity in the pictures of the females. But hey, it is your website...you want people to be able to stack votes...I guess that is your choice.

The server has crashed because eveapi response object was undefined. That's the first time I encountered this error.

I have added validation measures so it doesn't happen again in the future.

New Eden Faces should be back up online in a few minutes.

Ban Achura, give Khanid a chance.

I noticed Kairavi - beautiful khanid - wasn't even in the database.. she is now! lol

Kairavi has asked me to remove her character from the database awhile back. (Who knows why). But I knew this would happen, someone would add her again to the site.

What are the criteria for appearing in the Top 100? Seems to be a minimum number of total votes. How many, and are there any other limitations?

- remove the lowest ranking character every 6 hours instead of every 2 days
- reset the leaderboard every week (display old results in the History/Archive page)
.

website down!

It would be nice if you could categorize it into both men and women. Having an all time favorites gets boring over time, so in addition to that, it would be awesome to have a more dynamically updating system similar to 500px.com (it's a photo sharing site) where we could see new faces everyday based on short term popularity trends. Unfortunately I have no idea how 500px.com's popularity algorithm works so you'll probably have to create your own.

Once upon a time some guy made character portrait for the original portrait games. Since there was no CQ at that time he didn't care about the fact that his character, while hot, had a fat ass and no boobies. As time passed he wanted a new character and found that it gave him the heebie jeebies to look upon the hot, fat assed character he made so long ago. So he made another one that was similar but had a decent body.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it

The hosting provider is experiencing some technical difficulties. Hopefully they will come back up soon.
As for the "head to head" matches, I like the idea and it shouldn't be too difficult to implement!

UPDATE: Exceeded disk quota.

(snip)

While I could manually separate male and female avatars, in the long term it's not going to work out. I could also add a gender radio button when adding a character, but it relies solely on the truthfulness of people. Nothing will prevent you from adding a male avatar and selecting a female checkbox.
To determine character's gender with 100% accuracy, I'll need everyone's full API which is not practical - because who wants to give out their API keys just for some avatar contest website!

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On New Eden Faces there is a fixed number of total characters and I just don't see a good way to translate "trending" algorithm to newedenfaces.com project. What I could do is reset leaderboard every week/biweekly to keep it somewhat changing.

Since I was selling my CEO and needed a new one, I actually logged into Brit for the first time in forever.

I thought I'd take a look in the mirror and see if I could fix the lighting a bit. I got a pop up asking if I'd like a re-sculpt! Well, as it happened, I did want one.

Now I have the body to go with the face. Woot!

Sorry guys I've been busy with some real life stuff and I was not able to fix the errors that caused the crash who knows when. I just found out why I was hitting the "Exceeded disk quota". My log file was accidentally printing all 2500 characters into a text file on each request.

After bringing the server back for 5 minutes, the brand new log file was already at 11 megabytes. It's a lot of megabytes for a website that is less than 1 mb in total.

I am currently working on the improvements I have mentioned earlier. In addition I have considered the gender-separated voting and think that's a good idea. For that I am going to need a few trusted volunteers who can set a gender to existing characters.

For future character adds I am considering whether there should be an approval process signed off by me once a day, or have a report button next to character's name, in the case when opposite gender is encountered .

UPDATE

Many bugs have been fixed, added gender support, as someone has suggested I have added sorting by winning percentage for the top 14 and top 100 but first they are sorted by number of wins, this prevents new players with 100% winning percentage to be in top ranks.

Added previous matches on character summary page that shows a list of 2 avatars per row, winner of the vote highlighted in green, loser of the vote highlighted in red. It's still in basic shape, but good enough for now.

Added notifications for report button, report threshold has been lowered from 10 to 3.

Sometime this week, once everything is ready I will push the update live.

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Why and how was I already on this website?

Riggity Rig1..
Rig2.

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quiet, fatty. go eat some donuts.

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Its a diabolical liberty

That's not even the worst thing.
I was there when a RL friend of mine was making his avatar, he didn't want to bother with the character generator at all and randomized everything.
And this character is usually in the top 50 and always gets better ratings than Zimmy.

Screw everything about this.

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Its a diabolical liberty

That's not even the worst thing.
I was there when a RL friend of mine was making his avatar, he didn't want to bother with the character generator at all and randomized everything.
And this character is usually in the top 50 and always gets better ratings than Zimmy.

Screw everything about this.

It's personal preference. Really dislike both of their portraits (no offense, personal taste again).

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Its a diabolical liberty

Personally I dislike female characters with overly masculine facial features like... Uh..well...

And yeah, I know, I always get a lot of flack for the red shirt, but if it was good enough for Montgomery Scott then doggone it, it's good enough for me.

Mmmmm, Large Collidable Object gets me every time.

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Its a diabolical liberty

The only thing that needs fixing is the horrible taste of the people who vote.

109 - 211 for me, really?

It's actually a good thing.

If you didn't look good then all the little dweebs wouldn't be down-voting you to improve themselves in the standings. These things are so easily manipulated by the hyper-competitive, Alpha male types that play this game that they will never be anything close to impartial.

It's too bad. A lot of people have put a lot of time into these sites only to have them gamed by the very people they took the time to make them for.

Kind of pathetic.

Mr Epeen