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Embrace My Hate
Black Horizon. Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:40:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Even if this is just a brainstorming session in the office its a good sign.
Couldn't have said it better myself. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
13
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:43:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255701#post255701
Just going to chime in here, these stats are a 1st pass taken from a chaos build, it hasn't been balanced in any sense and it's going to change before they go out to TQ.
There will be a dev-blog with final stats before they hit TQ.
that should clear that up :)
TY for link to blue reply.
It's nice to get confirmation that they are real. Even if they will likely change before release. |

Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
204
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:44:00 -
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Denidil wrote:EI Digin wrote:If these leaks are real, they are likely not the final product, and there are still some things to come, like EAF/AF changes.
I do like the changes made so far, especially to destroyers, although I would like to see them in action before release. just removing the ROF penalty from dessies is not sufficient to "Fix dessies" they also need their mid and low slot counts looked at - particularly mids. IMO, Destroyers are basically similar to honey badgers. They attack whatever they can, and don't care about anything else in the process, including likely death.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
439
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:46:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Zagam wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Rees Noturana wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Hrm, only the Talos has drones. So the new BCs aren't meant for mission running.  I'd say those new BC have quick and brutal PvP written all over them. These are not the ships mission runners are looking for. I'm sure some will try but will end up salvaging their own wrecks. Based on the stats in the paste I have to agree and I couldn't be happier. I mostly fly BCs in PvP and I couldn't be happier about this. Face, meet Melt. Melt Face.  This. I fly mostly Drakes and Canes in PvP, and each BC looks like CCP took each race's best PvP BC, gave it steroids in the high slots, and then set it free. Yes, and no? A Torp Naga should clobber a Drake due to the Drake's large sig size. However, if the Drake pilot decides to fly a cruiser that day, the Torp Naga is going to be almost defenseless. OTOH, getting double webbed by a blaster Talos is going to be bad...
Removing the sig penalties for T2 missiles helps the drake out quite a bit, the question is will it's tank last longer against the torps than the Naga will against the T2 missiles?
When (optimism) these changes get on Sisi... Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

White Tree
XxBroski North Reloaded Federation NinjaGuldDotxX. Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:49:00 -
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Welp. |

De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:50:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255701#post255701
Just going to chime in here, these stats are a 1st pass taken from a chaos build, it hasn't been balanced in any sense and it's going to change before they go out to TQ.
There will be a dev-blog with final stats before they hit TQ.
that should clear that up :)
I don't care if these are back of the napkin brainstorming, CCP is finally, finally paying attention and at the very least contemplating fixing things (like hybrids) that have been broken forever. |

The Crimson Invaider
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
2
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:51:00 -
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After doing some maths on the changes they seem quite well balanced and bring things into line with other races equivalents more. |

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:52:00 -
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To me this is EVE-sex. |

Michael Turate
The Bembridge Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:54:00 -
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As others have said, even if this is a work in progress, it's an awesome work in progress and you guys are really starting to hit the ball out of the park again.
The point we have often made is that new content is not needed because there is already tons of awesome content in the game but a lot of it is largely obsolete (dessies, deimos, some AFs) because it hasn't been loved enough and has been left to gather dust.
This could be one of the most significant boosts to PVP within the game for ages if it all works out. There will be tons of new fits flying about and tons of new emergent tactics. Much ignored and long forgotten ships will be back on the field with a role to play and the new ships are going to be great too. It's going to bring EXCITEMENT back into the game (hell, I'm excited already!) and that is surely the best strategy I can think of to bring the game back into rude health.
Nice work! |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:55:00 -
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Data from early test builds is always very likely to change. But that's no reason not to discuss possibilities.
At some point soon we'll publish a dev blog to tell you what we're thinking and to get feedback from you.
Eventually some version of these stats will also make its way to SiSi for you to test and play around with. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:56:00 -
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care to expand on that?
or will we have to wait until you tell CCP what we collectively think about it, and CCP tells us what you told them that we think about it?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

InVictus Kell
Gladiators of Rage White Noise.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:56:00 -
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cap usage on hybrids is way down, so are fitting requirements. Gal ships get slight speed and agility boosts.
this is special indeed. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
133
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:58:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Data from early test builds is always very likely to change. But that's no reason not to discuss possibilities.
At some point soon we'll publish a dev blog to tell you what we're thinking and to get feedback from you.
Eventually some version of these stats will also make its way to SiSi for you to test and play around with.
this lack of confirmation is indeed very confirming and very good news!
welcome back CCP, we missed you
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:58:00 -
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I like the new BC stats. They look like usefull ships, while not making tier2 BC obsoletes. Because with their low HP, a Tornado isn't going to kill a Hurricane 1v1. Quite the contrary.
But with their stats, maybe "heavy cruiser" is more accurate than "battlecruiser" as a class name. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
439
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:00:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Data from early test builds is always very likely to change. But that's no reason not to discuss possibilities.
At some point soon we'll publish a dev blog to tell you what we're thinking and to get feedback from you.
Eventually some version of these stats will also make its way to SiSi for you to test and play around with.
Do you have any clue, any idea, how encouraging it is simply to see these things being tossed about, preliminary or not? Seriously, do you have any idea? It's like Christmas for the imagination.
Thanks, greatly. 
By the way, what does setting the isCapitalSize flag do in game if I may ask? Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
42
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:02:00 -
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What do small dragons and/or Orlando Bloom have to do with any of this?
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:04:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:But with their stats, maybe "heavy cruiser" is more accurate than "battlecruiser" as a class name. It's more like "Heavy Destroyer"  |

Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:05:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Data from early test builds is always very likely to change. But that's no reason not to discuss possibilities.
At some point soon we'll publish a dev blog to tell you what we're thinking and to get feedback from you.
Eventually some version of these stats will also make its way to SiSi for you to test and play around with. well at least from what i read on different forums, most people like what they saw in the leak and are optimistic |

Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:07:00 -
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Quote:[+] TEST Damage Mod - 5 Players [+] TEST Damage Mod - 10 Players [+] TEST Damage Mod - 20 Players [+] TEST Damage Mod - 40 Players
that's what you get for having a CFC-dominated CSM. |

Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:08:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote:By the way, what does setting the isCapitalSize flag do in game if I may ask? Since DD modules will only be able to shoot capital ships after the expansion, I assume the isCapitalSize is a check allowing or disallowing the use of the DD against a ship Amir al-Mu'minin of the Seekers of a Silent Paradise and Sr. Banker of EVE Online Hold'Em |

Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:09:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:I like the new BC stats. They look like usefull ships, while not making tier2 BC obsoletes. Because with their low HP, a Tornado isn't going to kill a Hurricane 1v1. Quite the contrary.
But with their stats, maybe "heavy cruiser" is more accurate than "battlecruiser" as a class name. I think it would be too quick to say if a Tornado could kill a Hurricane or not. The cane has a better tank, but the Tornado will have a much better dps. Its basically going to boil down to the fit, and the dynamics of the fight itself.
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Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:10:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Data from early test builds is always very likely to change. But that's no reason not to discuss possibilities.
At some point soon we'll publish a dev blog to tell you what we're thinking and to get feedback from you.
Eventually some version of these stats will also make its way to SiSi for you to test and play around with.
thanks for confirming.
hey - this just means you guys have more time to process feedback from us. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:13:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Shadowsword wrote:I like the new BC stats. They look like usefull ships, while not making tier2 BC obsoletes. Because with their low HP, a Tornado isn't going to kill a Hurricane 1v1. Quite the contrary.
But with their stats, maybe "heavy cruiser" is more accurate than "battlecruiser" as a class name. I think it would be too quick to say if a Tornado could kill a Hurricane or not. The cane has a better tank, but the Tornado will have a much better dps. Its basically going to boil down to the fit, and the dynamics of the fight itself.
i'd say it depends on fitting and range. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Aeril Malkyre
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:13:00 -
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The important bits from the new Tornado entry:
Large Projectile Turret CPU Need bonus Large Projectile Turret Power Need Bonus 8/5/4, 8 turrets/0 missiles
No drones 535 m3 cargo bay -> bigger than the other two 6 Targets, 60K range 170m sig radius -> Much smaller than either of the others, which is good
225 m/s -> Much faster than I thought they'd give it.
Armor: 2272 Shield: 2165 -> Much lower HP than I guessed, and sort of nonsensical having 5 mids but lower shields. But the difference isn't huge.
Overall, pretty badass. |

stoicfaux
318
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:13:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote: By the way, what does setting the isCapitalSize flag do in game if I may ask?
Probably related to the proposed Titan Superweapon Nerf: "To fix this, we are changing the superweapon so that it cannot fire upon sub-capital ships (capital ships being Freighters, Jump Freighters, Carriers, Dreadnoughts, Capital Industrial Ships, Supercarriers and Titans)."
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
439
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:13:00 -
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Koronakesh wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:By the way, what does setting the isCapitalSize flag do in game if I may ask? Since DD modules will only be able to shoot capital ships after the expansion, I assume the isCapitalSize is a check allowing or disallowing the use of the DD against a ship
Ah crap! Completely forgot about that. Thanks much! Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
984
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:14:00 -
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bleh GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
173
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:15:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote: By the way, what does setting the isCapitalSize flag do in game if I may ask?
Probably related to the proposed Titan Superweapon Nerf: "To fix this, we are changing the superweapon so that it cannot fire upon sub-capital ships (capital ships being Freighters, Jump Freighters, Carriers, Dreadnoughts, Capital Industrial Ships, Supercarriers and Titans)." Correct. Any ship with that tag are at risk of being fired upon by a doomsday. |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
111
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:16:00 -
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suiciding freighters just got cheaper. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp Flatline.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:17:00 -
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Quote: 125mm Railgun II
capacitorNeed: 2.15 => 1.505
cpu: 17.0 => 16.0
damageMultiplier: 2.4 => 2.64
That's a straight 10% damage increase to rail guns, but no such change to blaster damage.
Hmpff, I am not sure a wee bit more tracking is enough to make me fall in love with blasters again.  |
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