Princess Alia,

I confined the comparison to a 1v1 because in gang environments, the far superior damage projection abilities of fall-off bonused ACs make the Tornado a superior choice. I know full well that there's more to PVP than 1v1, but I didn't see it necessary to compare the Talos and Tornado there, as it's so obvious that the Tornado is better. I didn't think that this needed spelling out.

Damage types. In the very small scale combat where the blaster Talos will be most useful, you almost always have sufficient warning to be able to reload. I've spent quite long enough pissing about in AML Caracals and Drakes to know the importance of picking the right ammo for the job. Even if you have no warning (e.g. jump-in via a gate), then the Tornado has the mobility to buy the required ten seconds to load Hail, then turn and let yourself get webbed. If you choose to do so, of course, you could just choose to kite the Talos outside web range, minimising tracking problems as it lumbers after you.

The rest of your posts appear to be unresearched, content-free waffle. Now, perhaps you could explain to me why you think that the AC-Tornado should be broadly on-par with the Talos in the Talos's niche?

It come down to this: Can you even give a reason to choose a Talos over a Tornado for a fleet fight? There is none, for the same reason that current BC fleets are heavy on hurricanes and rarely contain a signifiant amount of harbingers.

Rail damage boost looks good, need tot est it though before you can see if the level is set right for balance. Blaster tracking boost is 20% - not sure that's enough tbh given they get used at 1km or so, regardless of size. Might be a case of having larger tracking bonus for bigger blasters with smalls being set at that 20% point.

But I live in hope having seen the scope of changes being considered.

"Large Shield Transporter II - 5 players" sounds interesting I think. I wonder what it's supposed to do... Somehow raise the maximum shield of up to 5 ships in the fleet? Will it repair up to 5 ships at the same time?

that actually worries me a bit

If the Taranis make a come-back, it only gives some incentive to bring along a few assault frigs or destroyers.

This winter is going to be so ******* awesome.

CCP , why the hybrid frigate agility nerf ???!??

Daredevil

agility: 3.39 => 3.5595

Federation Navy Comet

agility: 3.3 => 3.465

maxVelocity: 370.0 => 375.0

Incursus

agility: 3.31 => 3.4755

maxVelocity: 334.0 => 344.0

Tristan

agility: 3.85 => 4.0425

maxVelocity: 296.0 => 306.0

Taranis

agility: 3.1 => 3.255

etc.

What we really don't need in Eve , are slugish hybrid frigates. Fix it.
thx

-Zhula

Uh... its not a nerf... its a buff. higher numbers = more agility. (compare the agility on a frigate vs. a cruiser vs. a BS, you'll see what I mean)

The far superior mobility and damage projection abilities make choosing the AC-Tornado over the blaster-Talos in fleet a no-brainer. But since we shouldn't really expect blasters to be effective in fleet, given their short range, it's not really the right question. What we're looking for is reasons to fly the blaster-Talos over the AC-Tornado solo or in duo/trio.

The problem here is that obvious choice is still the Tornado, despite the superior EFT damage and even the 90% web. In these very small environments, mobility and damage projection is king - the ability to get tackle and to avoid tackle, the ability to apply DPS outside web range. The Tornado has these abilities; the Talos does not. Sure, the good paper DPS and 90% web look good in EFT, but a suitable comparison is one of Serpentis and Angel ships - which are more popular in space?

tbh blasters still need a damage boost and a range cut, but if these stats go final, it's a good middle term.

rails would go for increasing RoF instead damage tho.

?? No way. RoF equals capped out more quickly.

Personally I fly both, and I'll still fly both. But I'm still not terribly worried about Gallente being OP, serviceable perhaps...but certainly not OP.

Tippia is right (and also right for correcting me previously, it had been years since I looked up the formula and had forgotton how it worked, thanks!).

It doesn't help matters that the stats are mislabeled though as it leads to small bouts of confusion like this.