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Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:05:00 -
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I think we are getting trolled bros. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:06:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:maxPassengers? Is that a new attribute or an old one? Old. All ships have this attribute. You can open EveMon and check ship stats
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JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:06:00 -
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Ardamalis wrote:Karl Planck wrote:This thread reminds me of the fake patch notes leak for Tyrannis If it is a fake, then someone sure has a lot of time on their hands.... But if this is for real. CCP has delivered. EDIT: (still reading through) Gallente pilots are gonna be happy!
As somebody else mentioned above, you would think that somebody faking this wouldn't have wasted their time to come up with some of the more benign changes. The Rook is a prime example.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:06:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:This thread reminds me of the fake patch notes leak for Tyrannis
yeah, not to burst everyone's bubble here, but random crap in pastebin does not a devblog make
sure, it would be great, however have you ever seen CCP change this much at once? are you sure you want to see CCP change this much at once?
While I hope for the best and try and have an open mind, I also try and avoid having my mind so open that my brain falls out
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:08:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Karl Planck wrote:This thread reminds me of the fake patch notes leak for Tyrannis yeah, not to burst everyone's bubble here, but random crap in pastebin does not a devblog make sure, it would be great, however have you ever seen CCP change this much at once? are you sure you want to see CCP change this much at once? While I hope for the best and try and have an open mind, I also try and avoid having my mind so open that my brain falls out
No, havent seen them change this much at once.
But on that note I also have been astonished with the number of changes that they have announced within the last couple of weeks!
Especially all of the ones that for years we have been asking for. |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
70
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:09:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Novantco wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Looks like the penalties for the tech II missiles is going away if I'm reading that right. Drakes just got... smaller. Yep that does seem to be the case for tech 2 missiles. Except that a lot of things got faster, which is a missile damage nerf. Plus the new BCs have sigs of 180-190m versus 240-285 of current BCs. I guess that Fighters are going to have a bit more trouble hitting the new BC sub-caps.
I see them as potential anti-cap ships. But, I'm not much of a fleet guy so I'm probably wrong.
But, a lot of people were asking for larger stealth bombers to take out the super caps. Just put a covert cloak on a T2 version of these bad boys, fit with citadel torps and go to town. I'm for Incarna but don't sacrifice the EVE we have. Keep the core healthy. Expand it when you have the resources and a plan.
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Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:09:00 -
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confirming that the new bc (particularly the caldari.. that's hard for a gallente pilot to admit) are cap killers.
watch out Nyx pilots, i've got a battlecruiser to ruin your day! Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |
Serial Chi
DeathStar Systems
10
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:11:00 -
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yum T2 mining foreman links |
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
12
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:11:00 -
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10% damage buff on railguns, and the removal of malus on their T2 ammo, that I like |
Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:12:00 -
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Looking through the info...
BCs: All of the new BCs are designed for one thing, and one thing only : Turning other ships into salvage in PvP. Nothing else. Very little tank (I didn't see any of them with over 6 mid slots, and generally 4-5 low slots), and absolutely no defensive bonuses.
Frigs: Dram got beat down with the nerf bat All other frigs got an agility and/or speed boost. This just brings the Dram on par with everything else frig-sized. But the Dram still has drones There is no 4th Assault Ship bonus.
Supercap nerf : As published earlier in the dev blog, no surprise.
Hybrid changes : Rails got a dmg boost, cap use reduction, and fitting cost reduction. Blasters got a tracking bonus. Gallente pilots and Caldari rail-freaks need to clean their pants off now.
Destroyer changes : No more ROF bonus. Need to kill a frig, bring a destroyer. (Destroyers might actually have a use in fleets now)
Ammo changes : T2 ammo got some of its disadvantages (namely falloff/tracking) taken away.
New T2 mods : Lots of new mods, too many to list here.
In Summary - Lots of nice changes, but its definitely not complete. Still missing some things like the 4th AF bonus, and I sense there are more ship-level changes to come. |
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JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:14:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Frigs: Dram got beat down with the nerf bat
Not too surprised about the Dram.
CCP had already talked about some of the possible changes to the ship during one of the AT discussion panels. |
baltec1
155
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:15:00 -
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My megathron is about to become faster, more agile, have better traking on my blasters along with even more room to fit things in the spare high. OH GOD YES!
Twilight Sparkle (my mega) is going to LOVE this winter |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:17:00 -
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there is also the remote possibility that this is just a test of the bulk data loader and may or may not reflect actual values.
dev comment or a definite origin of the data would help.
dammit now I'm excited...
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:18:00 -
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Denidil wrote:confirming that the new bc (particularly the caldari.. that's hard for a gallente pilot to admit) are cap killers.
watch out Nyx pilots, i've got a battlecruiser to ruin your day!
I dont think you will see any Nyx.... or super after the patch. Maby a titan (bus) inside a pos shield
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JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:19:00 -
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Nyx
armorHP: 1050000.0 => 840000.0
droneCapacity: 250000.0 => 150000.0
hp: 600000.0 => 480000.0
shieldCapacity: 540000.0 => 432000.0
shieldRechargeRate: 36000000.45 => 28800000.36
[+] allowedDroneGroup1: 549.0 [+] allowedDroneGroup2: 1023.0 [+] isCapitalSize: 1.0
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Jokerface666
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:19:00 -
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is it april 1st??? please say no! ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------ |
De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Did I read that right? A rather significant revamp of the Diemost? Also, T2 ganglinksGǪ \o/ I do hope all of this is trueGǪ
You and me both.
T2 Triage and Siege Modules i saw buried in there. |
Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:21:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Looking through the info...
Frigs: Dram got beat down with the nerf bat All other frigs got an agility and/or speed boost. This just brings the Dram on par with everything else frig-sized. But the Dram still has drones There is no 4th Assault Ship bonus. ...
Hybrid changes : Rails got a dmg boost, cap use reduction, and fitting cost reduction. Blasters got a tracking bonus. Gallente pilots and Caldari rail-freaks need to clean their pants off now.
Destroyer changes : No more ROF bonus. Need to kill a frig, bring a destroyer. (Destroyers might actually have a use in fleets now)
IF this is in fact true let me be reiterate again,
YOU THOUGHT THE DRAM WAS BAD, WELCOME TO FRIG HELL WITH THE DD.
Also, FW pilots can now start crying as Dessies will kill everything in minor plexes (yes even the corm)
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:21:00 -
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So, eafs? |
Ivan En'Vec
Dark-Force Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:26:00 -
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Hey guys, OP here. This is my take on the rumor mill: This list was circulating around a couple of private in-game channels, and was not created by me, nor do I know who pulled that info.
Personally I believe it's real, but it's from "not for public consumption" test sever data. Generally fakes are made for one purpose - attention - and that's not my goal here or the person who pulled the data. I do not believe that this is a full list, and the things that are here will very likely be tweaked before the expansion. Read it for fun and ideas, but wait for CCP's official release before any whines. However - should something on this list strike you as unbalanced - comment on it and bring it to CCP's attention BEFORE it goes live, while there's still time for changes. I'm sure they are monitoring this thread. :) |
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De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:28:00 -
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Rees Noturana wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Hrm, only the Talos has drones. So the new BCs aren't meant for mission running. I'd say those new BC have quick and brutal PvP written all over them. These are not the ships mission runners are looking for. I'm sure some will try but will end up salvaging their own wrecks.
Based on the stats in the paste I have to agree and I couldn't be happier. I mostly fly BCs in PvP and I couldn't be happier about this.
Face, meet Melt. Melt Face.
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:29:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:Zagam wrote:Looking through the info...
Frigs: Dram got beat down with the nerf bat All other frigs got an agility and/or speed boost. This just brings the Dram on par with everything else frig-sized. But the Dram still has drones There is no 4th Assault Ship bonus. ...
Hybrid changes : Rails got a dmg boost, cap use reduction, and fitting cost reduction. Blasters got a tracking bonus. Gallente pilots and Caldari rail-freaks need to clean their pants off now.
Destroyer changes : No more ROF bonus. Need to kill a frig, bring a destroyer. (Destroyers might actually have a use in fleets now)
IF this is in fact true let me be reiterate again, YOU THOUGHT THE DRAM WAS BAD, WELCOME TO FRIG HELL WITH THE DD. Also, FW pilots can now start crying as Dessies will kill everything in minor plexes (yes even the corm)
The agility and speed buffs frigs are getting will help with the destroyer buffs. And everyone I've talked to (even Dramiel pilots) agree the Dramiel is *very* OP. It was begging for a nerf.
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:31:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Rees Noturana wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Hrm, only the Talos has drones. So the new BCs aren't meant for mission running. I'd say those new BC have quick and brutal PvP written all over them. These are not the ships mission runners are looking for. I'm sure some will try but will end up salvaging their own wrecks. Based on the stats in the paste I have to agree and I couldn't be happier. I mostly fly BCs in PvP and I couldn't be happier about this. Face, meet Melt. Melt Face. This. I fly mostly Drakes and Canes in PvP, and each BC looks like CCP took each race's best PvP BC, gave it steroids in the high slots, and then set it free.
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:32:00 -
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Thank god i am so bored at work and this is awesome CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:33:00 -
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If these leaks are real, they are likely not the final product, and there are still some things to come, like EAF/AF changes.
I do like the changes made so far, especially to destroyers, although I would like to see them in action before release. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
348
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:35:00 -
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Probably not final, but movement in a surprisingly good direction. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:37:00 -
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Even if this is just a brainstorming session in the office its a good sign. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:39:00 -
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Zagam wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Rees Noturana wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Hrm, only the Talos has drones. So the new BCs aren't meant for mission running. I'd say those new BC have quick and brutal PvP written all over them. These are not the ships mission runners are looking for. I'm sure some will try but will end up salvaging their own wrecks. Based on the stats in the paste I have to agree and I couldn't be happier. I mostly fly BCs in PvP and I couldn't be happier about this. Face, meet Melt. Melt Face. This. I fly mostly Drakes and Canes in PvP, and each BC looks like CCP took each race's best PvP BC, gave it steroids in the high slots, and then set it free.
Yes, and no? A Torp Naga should clobber a Drake due to the Drake's large sig size. However, if the Drake pilot decides to fly a cruiser that day, the Torp Naga is going to be almost defenseless.
OTOH, getting double webbed by a blaster Talos is going to be bad...
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:39:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255701#post255701
Just going to chime in here, these stats are a 1st pass taken from a chaos build, it hasn't been balanced in any sense and it's going to change before they go out to TQ.
There will be a dev-blog with final stats before they hit TQ.
that should clear that up :) |
Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:39:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:If these leaks are real, they are likely not the final product, and there are still some things to come, like EAF/AF changes.
I do like the changes made so far, especially to destroyers, although I would like to see them in action before release.
just removing the ROF penalty from dessies is not sufficient to "Fix dessies"
they also need their mid and low slot counts looked at - particularly mids. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |
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