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Vexy NiLakum
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Posted - 2005.12.25 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Vexy NiLakum on 25/12/2005 04:29:40
 Originally by: LeMonde
The match area will be a 100 km radius. If a team member goes outside that radius, his team will be disqualified. If a team member warps away from the arena, his team will lose the match. Teams will start 50 km away from each other.
... And what if one member of the team gets disconnected/fails connection to a server, and warp-out code engages (thus warping the member out of the arena? Does the team automatically gets disqualified?
Especially if the timeout happens right after match started, and nobody fired a shot. This way its an automatic warp-out with no countdown timer. 
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Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2005.12.25 04:49:00 -
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this is a joke like pretty much everything ccp sets up....if our alliance is ****, give us back our billion and fix your damn game so corps can set standings to alliances like any two bit developer could do.....
at least i got a good laugh out of this "tournament"
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Snoy
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Posted - 2005.12.25 04:49:00 -
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Even though this was raised to 64, I think there are a few alliances that are left out. SMASH would like to join this competition.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.12.25 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: William Dampier
As always CCP customer service == fantastic... thanks once again for all the equal treatment, your fantastic releases... I mean hotfixes, I mean all your great new additonal worthless skills, no I mean... oh never mind, thanks for nothing 
Originally by: Lord Cyric
this is a joke like pretty much everything ccp sets up....if our alliance is ****, give us back our billion and fix your damn game so corps can set standings to alliances like any two bit developer could do.....
If you have such distate for CCP, and so little faith in their game... Why are you paying them for it?
CCP cannot be right all the time, and they try a LOT harder then any other company I've paid for entertainment. Just because your group got the short end of the stick in one situation is not a reason to burn the staff of CCP at the stake.
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2005.12.25 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 25/12/2005 07:13:34
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel
Originally by: William Dampier
As always CCP customer service == fantastic... thanks once again for all the equal treatment, your fantastic releases... I mean hotfixes, I mean all your great new additonal worthless skills, no I mean... oh never mind, thanks for nothing
Originally by: Lord Cyric
this is a joke like pretty much everything ccp sets up....if our alliance is ****, give us back our billion and fix your damn game so corps can set standings to alliances like any two bit developer could do.....
If you have such distate for CCP, and so little faith in their game... Why are you paying them for it?
CCP cannot be right all the time, and they try a LOT harder then any other company I've paid for entertainment. Just because your group got the short end of the stick in one situation is not a reason to burn the staff of CCP at the stake.
Well you see, there is such a simple fix for this, and that would have been for there to be a SIGNUP of alliances or corporations that wished to partcipate, first 32 or 64 or whatever to sign up gets in. Alot of people are getting screwed over with the way it's set up now.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.12.25 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0
Well you see, there is such a simple fix for this, and that would have been for there to be a SIGNUP of alliances or corporations that wished to partcipate, first 32 or 64 or whatever to sign up gets in. Alot of people are getting screwed over with the way it's set up now.
Absolutely, your concerns are valid, as is your proposed solution. And in this very thread CCP have made several changes already based on the demands of their players.
I was simply stating that berating the developers, and directly insulting their work, their methods and their abilities might not be the best way to have your cause taken to heart.
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LatrineWR
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Posted - 2005.12.25 07:51:00 -
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How about this: USE THE UNIVERSAL MAP AS A GUIDE
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg
this shows conflict and the people involved in it
most are alliances or part of 1
this probably should have been used as your "road map"
surely you would agree most groups shown there are active pvp'ers or at least have a few in the ranks
after that you should have chosen by reputation
only then should you have gone by your size reqs.
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LeMonde
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Posted - 2005.12.25 08:47:00 -
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I realize some alliances will still be unhappy that they are not on the original list. Not nearly all of the alliances have sent information though, and those who don't will lose their slot to another alliance.
Originally by: Kanibal
two questions:
#1) can that one selected spectator be in gang with fighting squad?
#2) would you by any chance allow registration for one substitute per team?
1) The contestants can be ganged with the spectator, or whoever they want. The spectator will however, only be allowed a shuttle.
2) I don't see why not. Please include the subtitutes name when you send your mail.
Players are allowed to switch ship classes between fights (battleship pilot can jump in a frigate, or vice versa).
NOTE: If you are a moviemaker, and wish to be present for the event for recording, please send your application to "LeMonde" in-game and we will do our best to accomodate.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.12.25 10:25:00 -
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Now as much as I'd like to agree with everyone I'm not gonna. It's a very decent probability that the best pvp'er in this game is not even in an alliance and even if he is he might not be able to participate because of a number of factors. However, the caldari state could have an infinite amount of reasons to choose their participants the way they have.
So why don't the lucky ones of us who are now able to take part just get our ******* asses in real gear instead of whining gear. This event is never gonna be the best of the best but It's a very cool challenge so lets leave it at that.
I've seen this whining attitude among the supposedly "games finest" a number of times and all I can say to you is that you suck. You might rock in space but your attitude is detrimental to this game. **** you all during christmas...  And good luck to the devs organising this.
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Rich Head
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Posted - 2005.12.25 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
I've seen this whining attitude among the supposedly "games finest" a number of times and all I can say to you is that you suck. You might rock in space but your attitude is detrimental to this game. **** you all during christmas... And good luck to the devs organising this.
Quoted for Truth
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ShEEpTar1
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Posted - 2005.12.25 11:16:00 -
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WHY only alliances? There are alot of pirates, freelancers and mercenerys, who are much MUCH better pilots than most of alliance people. Specialy because they're used to flying in small numbers, unlike alliance blobs.
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Vixa Ambrodel
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Posted - 2005.12.25 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: ShEEpTar1
WHY only alliances? There are alot of pirates, freelancers and mercenerys, who are much MUCH better pilots than most of alliance people. Specialy because they're used to flying in small numbers, unlike alliance blobs.
Because, as the news item reads:
Quote:
Some political analysts believe that this is the first step of war preparation for the Caldari, and that they are simply "testing them". "In the past few years, capsuleer alliances have been growing at a rate faster than we could have ever imagined, especially in the outer regions. One day they might actually start posing as threats to the empires."
That is why. And since this is "Caldari State" and NOT "CCP" doing the event, it is done by "Caldari State" rules instead of following the capsuleers wishes. That said, to all the alliances that aren't on the list NOW: Stop whining, please. We all know "Caldari State" is messed up between the ears, no need to get infected by them 
Behave like adults or get treated like kids...
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2005.12.25 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: LeMonde
I realize some alliances will still be unhappy that they are not on the original list. Not nearly all of the alliances have sent their information though, and those who don't will lose their slot to another alliance.
and when you are out of alliances to fill the slots contact me please
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just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.12.25 12:02:00 -
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Please stay on topic, to make it really clear the topic is not flaming ccp or their employees.
If you have any ideas for this event then by all means post here but be respectful of others at all times ( yes this includes devs) and post constructive.
Forgot what I wanted to write here... |
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.12.25 12:39:00 -
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I just have one wish: Take this little for what it is ok?!
No serious debating who is the best and so on because that
will never be decided like this. Ever.
This is a funfilled event that needs to be treated like temporary
diversion from whatever else you are doing in this game
and not the blueprint for who has the best PvP'ers.
If I fight it will be to have a laugh!
A personal opinion on the rules:
Should only have been T1 ships, NO faction or what ever else there is.
I'll drop you a mail LeMonde regarding documenting the fights.
Cheers,
LOWA
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R31D
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Posted - 2005.12.25 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 22/12/2005 19:15:58
Let me say this as politely as I know how:
SIZE MEANS EXACTLY NOTHING IN EVE.
Just brilliant freakin rules, gentlemen. No Exuro Mortis? No M.C.? Here's a better one - No CVA???
That's not a championship. It's an insult.
Screw it. My money is on Big Blue. Have fun, fellas.
EDIT - Then again, probably for the best. If Zajo got into this and won, too many people would have to deal with getting owned by a female pilot. 
I'm sure some of the more industrial Aliances could benefit from the MC's services in regards to this tournament 
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madhapee
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Posted - 2005.12.25 14:04:00 -
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Just kudos for CCP for organising such a great event!
I really love the idea! I have organised mini-tournies in the past but this so much bigger. Organisation is a lot of work and I have a lot of respect for them.
Good luck to all contestants!
suggestion: can ccp fraps the games? or perhaps make a streaming video channel on the web so we can watch it?
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.12.25 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: William Dampier on 25/12/2005 14:22:27
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Please stay on topic, to make it really clear the topic is not flaming ccp or their employees.
If you have any ideas for this event then by all means post here but be respectful of others at all times ( yes this includes devs) and post constructive.
Since my previous posts were deleted without cause, i will post a simple question based on the stated rules of eligibility:
Why isn't my alliance eligible?
We chose to let only the 64 largest alliances (as of Dec. 22nd) compete in this tournament. In the future it is well possible that larger tournaments will be held.
why were these 3 alliances invited:
Stain Empire [SE]
SE consists of 3 member corporations, 141 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
Stain Empire [SE]
Established on 2004.11.30 by TRIGGER
Executor Corporation: P.S.I
SE claims no systems.
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Aegis Militia [AM]
AM consists of 8 member corporations, 104 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
Established on 2005.04.09 by Mirial
Executor Corporation: Ubiqua Seraph
AM claims no systems.
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The Star Fraction [-SF-]
-SF- consists of 2 member corporations, 87 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
Established on 2005.01.25 by Jade Constantine
Executor Corporation: Jericho Fraction
-SF- claims no systems.
and these 3 alliances were not invited:
FOUNDATI0N [FDN]
Established on 2005.11.17 by lior narkis
Executor Corporation: real one corp
FDN consists of 6 member corporations, 143 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
FDN claims no systems.
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Free Space Alliance [FSA]
FSA consists of 5 member corporations, 134 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
Established on 2004.12.26 by APOC UK
Executor Corporation: Apoc Technologies Incorporated
FSA claims no systems.
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SMASH Alliance [SMASH]
SMASH consists of 4 member corporations, 71 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
Established on 2005.03.25 by British Knights
Executor Corporation: Unknown Shoe Corp.
SMASH claims no systems.
you'll notice that the 2 examples shown above that weren't invited both have more members then all 3 of the ones who were, So again explain to me how you just went by size...
P.S Eris you may as well just ban this account and my other 2 instead of deleting my posts (which weren't outside the rules of these forums by the way) because until I get an answer to this question I will continue to post it. I pay the same amount for my monthly fee as everyone else in this game, my alliance paid the same amount for the right to have the alliance name, I would think a billion ISK would at least pay for an answer to a reason why you are discriminating against certain people.
VIRII HeadQuarters - Kills Statistics
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.12.25 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/12/2005 14:35:43
Originally by: William Dampier
Why isn't my alliance eligible?
We chose to let only the 64 largest alliances (as of Dec. 22nd) compete in this tournament. In the future it is well possible that larger tournaments will be held.
Dude.. the answer to your question is in the text you quoted; "as of dec. 22nd".
Unless I (and whoever made the list of alliances that were eligible) am mistaken, those alliances have simply changed size since then.
That's what it looks like to me anyway.. Do please correct me if I'm wrong.
PS. (Smash at 71 isn't nearly as big as the smallest alliance invited so dunno why you even ask about them given that the number of pilots within the alliance at the point they checked is the criteria for taking part)
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/12/2005 14:35:43
Originally by: William Dampier
Why isn't my alliance eligible?
We chose to let only the 64 largest alliances (as of Dec. 22nd) compete in this tournament. In the future it is well possible that larger tournaments will be held.
Dude.. the answer to your question is in the text you quoted; "as of dec. 22nd".
Unless I (and whoever made the list of alliances that were eligible) am mistaken, those alliances have simply changed size since then.
That's what it looks like to me anyway.. Do please correct me if I'm wrong.
PS. (Smash at 71 isn't nearly as big as the smallest alliance invited so dunno why you even ask about them given that the number of pilots within the alliance at the point they checked is the criteria for taking part)
Ok to be fair the numbers above were taken at 8am EST 12/23/05 (we have a perl process that screen scrapes the alliances page for our KMS system and they are copied from my original post that was deleted yesterday 12/24) I guess its possible that all these corps lost or gained 25 or 30 members in the span of 12 hours, but I doubt it (I will access the logs though and get the exact numbers for 12/21/05 and 12/22/05 if need be). I am willing to bet that both foundation and FSA had more members on those days then did Star Faction or Aegis Militia, i just don't think it's necessary its quite obvious that the criteria wasn't size (as is stated)
There are a few reasons I chose SMASH as an example, 1. they have more member corps then the smallest alliance invited (-SF-), they have actually waged war against the largest alliance (at the time) in EvE. Then there is the fact that 16 pilots (the difference between smash and -SF-) surely can't be considered "not nearly as big" considering that Star Faction is really just made up of a single corp (Jericho Fraction) and SMASH has 4 individual corporations that form the alliance. Bottom line there are many examples of how the choice wasn't based on size, or any other criteria that I can gather, and I would like to know what it was based on.
No offense but I am quite capable of reading, especially text that I quote. I am asking a direct question to the CCP members that organized this, unless im mistaken thats wouldn't be you, the numbers thing is all fine and dandy like I said I have the exact numbers for the day before the stated date and after if need be they can be posted, but I am pretty sure that won't be necessary as the dev's and ISD are quite capable of the same
VIRII HeadQuarters - Kills Statistics
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LeMonde
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: William Dampier
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/12/2005 14:35:43
Originally by: William Dampier
Why isn't my alliance eligible?
We chose to let only the 64 largest alliances (as of Dec. 22nd) compete in this tournament. In the future it is well possible that larger tournaments will be held.
Dude.. the answer to your question is in the text you quoted; "as of dec. 22nd".
Unless I (and whoever made the list of alliances that were eligible) am mistaken, those alliances have simply changed size since then.
That's what it looks like to me anyway.. Do please correct me if I'm wrong.
PS. (Smash at 71 isn't nearly as big as the smallest alliance invited so dunno why you even ask about them given that the number of pilots within the alliance at the point they checked is the criteria for taking part)
Ok to be fair the numbers above were taken at 8am EST 12/23/05 (we have a perl process that screen scrapes the alliances page for our KMS system and they are copied from my original post that was deleted yesterday 12/24) I guess its possible that all these corps lost or gained 25 or 30 members in the span of 12 hours, but I doubt it (I will access the logs though and get the exact numbers for 12/21/05 and 12/22/05 if need be). I am willing to bet that both foundation and FSA had more members on those days then did Star Faction or Aegis Militia, i just don't think it's necessary its quite obvious that the criteria wasn't size (as is stated)
There are a few reasons I chose SMASH as an example, 1. they have more member corps then the smallest alliance invited (-SF-), they have actually waged war against the largest alliance (at the time) in EvE. Then there is the fact that 16 pilots (the difference between smash and -SF-) surely can't be considered "not nearly as big" considering that Star Faction is really just made up of a single corp (Jericho Fraction) and SMASH has 4 individual corporations that form the alliance. Bottom line there are many examples of how the choice wasn't based on size, or any other criteria that I can gather, and I would like to know what it was based on.
No offense but I am quite capable of reading, especially text that I quote. I am asking a direct question to the CCP members that organized this, unless im mistaken thats wouldn't be you, the numbers thing is all fine and dandy like I said I have the exact numbers for the day before the stated date and after if need be they can be posted, but I am pretty sure that won't be necessary as the dev's and ISD are quite capable of the same
These numbers are taken from in-game, not the alliance page (which if you look closely, was last updated at 11/28/05).
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teh bomber
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:40:00 -
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I'm a bit of teh noob, so perhaps missed some of the politics. However, My first reaction was "bloody great, what a superb idea". Then I read all the complaint posts and realised how much grief some people had bought for themselves . Meh
If I have a suggestion it's try to allow (1000s of) people to spectate live. I would be there for sure. You could sell peanuts and everything...
Good luck Dev dudes and cheers fort he snowballs!
oh, I also suggest (in the future, of course) the EVE olympiad. Including;
- PvP (1 on 1, covering all clases, specially noob ships, T1 frigs and indys)
Navy ops (several on several, gang assist and all that crap)
Pod racing
stip mining
 NPC rat clearance races
Plus many many more
it could be like that TV show from the 80s, with the jokers and the French always losing
Can I be on the olympic commitee please? I'm short of ISK
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: William Dampier
No offense but I am quite capable of reading, especially text that I quote. I am asking a direct question to the CCP members that organized this, unless im mistaken thats wouldn't be you, the numbers thing is all fine and dandy like I said I have the exact numbers for the day before the stated date and after if need be they can be posted, but I am pretty sure that won't be necessary as the dev's and ISD are quite capable of the same
Quite capable of reading, and yet you determine that the dev in question is lying to you ?
Size IS the reason, and claiming it isn't is saying LeMonde was lying to you.
Basically you're wrong and in the wrong.
You have the exact numbers, but the devs don't, riiiight.
What exactly is it anyways that makes you think you deserve an answer from CCP ?
You've already gotten one, but that's still a nice ego you've got there,
"the customer is always right" ? pay 15 bux a month so CCP are your slaves ? They can't possibly have anything better to do than explain why you're utterly wrong and sooth your crying and whinging over not being invited to the party.
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: LeMonde
These numbers are taken from in-game, not the alliance page (which if you look closely, was last updated at 28/11/05).
Ahh guess I missed were it said it was from the in game numbers, my mistake... Foundation still has more members then the single corp alliance -SF-
Anyway thanks for the answer... have fun with your tourney, its really well thought out and executed, just like everything else CCP does, keep up the great work!
VIRII HeadQuarters - Kills Statistics
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.12.25 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: William Dampier on 25/12/2005 15:53:46
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
...snip flames...
hey thanks for the reply... merry christmas maybe santa will bring you a spell checker and a clue! |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.25 17:15:00 -
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rules and content of this tournament are meh
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.12.25 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
rules and content of this tournament are meh
So don't participate.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.12.25 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: William Dampier
There are a few reasons I chose SMASH as an example, 1. they have more member corps then the smallest alliance invited (-SF-), they have actually waged war against the largest alliance (at the time) in EvE. Then there is the fact that 16 pilots (the difference between smash and -SF-) surely can't be considered "not nearly as big" considering that Star Faction is really just made up of a single corp (Jericho Fraction) and SMASH has 4 individual corporations that form the alliance. Bottom line there are many examples of how the choice wasn't based on size, or any other criteria that I can gather, and I would like to know what it was based on.
Yeah man, sorry but SF/Jericho is pretty famous too. We've been warring on some of the biggest alliances in the game for near on three years. If our single major corp is as big and active as four corps making up some other alliance then its hardly much of an embarrassment for us is it? And anyways like the dev dude said the in-game numbers were different to the alliance page numbers. Speaking personally though I'd like to have seen a reserve list of little active alliances that can substitute for whatever listed alliances don't actually put in an entrance. That would probably solve the issue to everyone's satisfaction.
Anyways, happy christmas everyone I've gotta go eat :)
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Vito Sophile
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Posted - 2005.12.25 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
rules and content of this tournament are meh
Hi, im a corp hopper who owns a Machariel and posts a lot of unpopular opinion and smack on the forums.
Does that make me uber? Cuase nothing i do ingame does :( |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.25 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vito Sophile
Originally by: KilROCK
rules and content of this tournament are meh
Hi, im a corp hopper who owns a Machariel and posts a lot of unpopular opinion and smack on the forums.
Does that make me uber? Cuase nothing i do ingame does :(
Corp hopper? not really. Machariel, who cares?
Opinion, like asses, everyone has them.
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