They realy want to fix the gallente ships ?

No, they all fly mini... obviously...

Even the ingame fittint screen on Sisi acknowledges that the failure that is the Hybrid fix for blaster turrets.

(I choose the ships because they both have a damage bonus, the same number of turrets and drones)

Armageddon hull on Singularity: 7x Mega Pulse Laser ll:
Turret DPS: 729 with Multifrequency Crystals 15km optimal 10km falloff
Turret DPS: 668 with Scorch Crystals 45km optimal 10km falloff

Megathron hull on Singularity : 7 Neutron Blaster Cannon ll:
Turret DPS 759 with Antimatter 4,5km optimal and 12,5km falloff
Turret DPS 696 with Null 11,25km optimal and 15,62km falloff

In conclusion:

There is no point in hybrid turrets even after the patch. The Armageddon has almost the same DPS and 3x the range. So blasters are in desperate need of something more. Either drastically more DPS or a lot more range.

And to compare Talos vs. Tornado: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29776&find=unread

Even the ingame fittint screen on Sisi acknowledges that the failure that is the Hybrid fix for blaster turrets.

(I choose the ships because they both have a damage bonus, the same number of turrets and drones)

Armageddon hull on Singularity: 7x Mega Pulse Laser ll:
Turret DPS: 729 with Multifrequency Crystals 15km optimal 10km falloff
Turret DPS: 668 with Scorch Crystals 45km optimal 10km falloff

Megathron hull on Singularity : 7 Neutron Blaster Cannon ll:
Turret DPS 759 with Antimatter 4,5km optimal and 12,5km falloff
Turret DPS 696 with Null 11,25km optimal and 15,62km falloff

In conclusion:

There is no point in hybrid turrets even after the patch. The Armageddon has almost the same DPS and 3x the range. So blasters are in desperate need of something more. Either drastically more DPS or a lot more range.

And to compare Talos vs. Tornado: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29776&find=unread

All I can assume is that most devs toons are either Amarr or Minmater and that subconciously they dont want to make Galle be on an equal footing.
I found the youtube clip of a blaster fleet getting on top of and owning a Beam fleet so hilarious. it was like them rubbing the difference in and saying if you cant win with blasters you're just crap pilots.
Hybrids suck now and they will after the changes. CCP dont seem to have the will, inclanation, insparation or ability to fix them.

Whatever they decide to do it will have to be a buff to the gun itself. If they buff the ships speed or drones most gallente ships will still prefer autocannons/ arty over blasters/rails because the buffs will transfer.

If they cannot find a way to buff blasters/rails without relying on ship/drone buffs too much nothing will change. At that point its a concept design problem and I say take blasters and rails back to the drawing board and redesign them from scratch.

All I can assume is that most devs toons are either Amarr or Minmater and that subconciously they dont want to make Galle be on an equal footing.
I found the youtube clip of a blaster fleet getting on top of and owning a Beam fleet so hilarious. it was like them rubbing the difference in and saying if you cant win with blasters you're just crap pilots.
Hybrids suck now and they will after the changes. CCP dont seem to have the will, inclanation, insparation or ability to fix them.

Yeah because everyone in null sec does just like that: "fly under 200clicks" and every single blaster in the constellation just magically pops and rip apart everything looking like rust or sex toys....we all know it so well.

That video made me smile the first time I saw it "wtf is this troll from CCP"

I'd like them to do some real videos of what's going on in high sec low sec and null sec, not sure they'd be able too admit how disproportional is the number of matar/amarr/caldari/gallente ships flown.
Sad CCP Tallest is the once that can do something about but will probably not be able to: see the 180-¦ direction about web bonus for Talos with stuff about fleets and hit bigger stuff.

Everyone knows the only sub cap gallente ships useful in fleets are arazus/lachesis for the long point, at any other task gallente hulls/weapons are just pitiful.

Gangs? -yes they can succeed, when they're being rep by GUARDIANS, shooting stuff pinned by RAPIERS, Ecm by FALCONS, but even then if you fly gallente it's just the poor man's choice. Every single ship type in amarr or minmatar set up WILL be better for the same job.

I see one potential solver.

Nerf Matar and make gallente the fastest race in the game. If you want close range you must be the fastest, its the only option for this problem. Coz Devs makes lots of mistakes with matar. Matar ships are fast and agile with is the stupidest idea, you cant be agile and fast at the same time = inertia. Blaster can be OK (EVEN NOW !!) if you always are the fastest one Isn't this true ? Trying anything different will makes things worst..

I think the problem is not with blasters but with AC .. and fast matar ships

Imagine blasters on Matar boats. It can work !

This is the worst idea what i heard.

Make gallentean ship the fastest race in game ? Oh i see, do you want to catch some paper hull matar ships.
Those matar ships have the worst hull in game. Thier advantages just their speeds when a blaster hit them from short distance they burning out instantly. Minnie hit and run tactics when a faster blaster ship using on your ship a web and scrambler ?
You just want "I WIN" button and creating a ship which faster than matarian ship, which have better firepower and better hull. LOL
This would be the fine solution ? No thx no.
Need smarter gallente ship and weapon system buff.

No i dont want "I win" button I want all 4 races to be playable Im both Gallente and Matar pilot. Also do not forgot about Caldari ! they got only few playable ships. Matar is OP and thats the problem and must be nerfed. Ac balance was the worst.

Anyway we need to find idea how to fix it. Im throwing my raw ideas to be discus.
Let make some brain storming :)

Just check your idea. Do you want flying with all race, but what would be happen if you create a faster ship with better damage and hull against matar ships ? No one will fly with minie ships, because a deimos will be faster and kill easily a vagabond or anything else.
The zealot ahac fleet will be change to uber damage deimos fleet or proteus fleet which have over 700 DPS with lol 250k EHP (wich has just 40k armor without slave sett and other bonuses) and faster than other one.
Thx no.

Need to use other fine solution like scrambler range bonus/lvl for gallentean ships and they would be turning off their enemies mwd from farther range. (and this is logic for eve history too because their recon ships use racial scram bonus)

Make gallentean ship the fastest race in game ? Oh i see, do you want to catch some paper hull matar ships.
Those matar ships have the worst hull in game. Thier advantages just their speeds when a blaster hit them from short distance they burning out instantly. Minnie hit and run tactics when a faster blaster ship using on their ships a web and scrambler ?
Do you just want a "I WIN" button and creating a ship which faster than matarian ship, which have better firepower and better hull. LOL
This would be the fine solution ? No thx no.
Need smarter gallente ship and weapon system buff.

What paper hull are you talking about? -armor cane push 60k ehp decent dps with no effort no fleet bonus or implants...try harder.

Smarter gallente ship/weapon? -minmatar hulls and weapons, best at gallente job than gallente. So what's your next point?

What paper hull are you talking about? -armor cane push 60k ehp decent dps with no effort no fleet bonus or implants...try harder.

Smarter gallente ship/weapon? -minmatar hulls and weapons, best at gallente job than gallente. So what's your next point?

Gallente have **** tanks also ALL of there tanking bonuses are for active tanking so i have no clue what tiger is talking bout.

Oh i see you found the most useable minnie ship and want to compare a bad design brutix which have 62k EHP before winter gallente buff.

Next one ?

Oh wait what will be happen when a better damage ship like a mega will be faster than a tempest and hit him from short range ?

Change gallentean ships to faster in game is a fail idea.

When a deimos can catch with scrambler now a vaga can kill easily. What will be happen if gallentean ship will be faster than other one with their huge short range damage ?

You mean 62K EHP with no weapon fitted right? -you can't fit 1600RT and fit a full rack of weapons+mwd web scram, at best you can fit some lower tiers weapon with the shortest dmg and range...

Super ubber rep bonus very usefull on top, what a nice ship it is indeed.

Right, maybe you need to learn fitting and using pg implant. this "without weapon racks" fitt have mwd,web,scram,cap booster too, crap electron blaster with 813 dps (overheat+drones) and 1600 plate.
Oh wait 813 dps not enough for you, but after patch u can using ion guns over electrons.
I think this damage not bad with smaller guns.

Second one, another fail.

Tempest have 820 dps with overheat and standard fitt, megathron have 1124 without overheat.
So, what will be win in short range fight ?
A mega melting easily a tempest in a short range fight.

3rd
Share brightness ? Try to read what i wrote. Scram range/lvl bonus for the gallente ships.
Thats better idea than a "I win" speed button just nerf something else because someone like crying.

"You know what's the problem of fitting the shortest range weapon system? -no you don't."

Do you know what i'm thinking ? You are a prophetess who know my knowledge.
But vaga fitted with webs is so rare like a nano deimos. But do you know, how can beat a webabond. :D

Yes! Now you're getting it! That would be the idea. If you haven't gotten that from my last posts so far please go back and read them again (on the last 3 pages or so). It would be the proposition that Minmatar are still pretty fast, but most of all AGILE. Gallente will take the new crown for speed, but will actually get their already not-great agility nerfed. This would allow blasters to work since you can get into range. It would also, as I've stated many times, cause pilot skill to be the deciding factor in battles.

It is of course fine if you disagree, but please explain what part of my suggestion wouldn't work as intended (I'm sure I overlooked something somewhere). I've explained why yours wouldn't work for the example you mentioned above and what other problems I see with it (Gallente can only engage if already near blaster range).

For sure this guy dont want galente change.. ... Talking with him is like hitting head in wall ...

For sure this guy dont want galente change.. ... Talking with him is like hitting head in wall ...

"Sharing more tactical elements with smaller vessels than with its size-class counterparts, the Deimos represents the final word in up-close-and-personal cruiser combat. Venture too close to this one, and swift death is your only guarantee. "

I was just on SISI trying to fit out a Diemost with the new hybrid changes. I have advanced weapon upgrades 4 and by putting 2 Ancilliary Current Routers in the rig slots I was able to fit:

4 Neutron and 1 Ion blaster in the highs
MWD, scram and web in the mids
DC, EANM, Explosive Hardener, 1600mm RT plate and 2 Mag Stabs in the lows

Considering this ship is supposed to be the ulitmate short range HAC. it costs more than the Megathron, and it's about to be completely outgunned by the new Talos, and it's still too slow to get into range, it needs some serious love.

The utility high should be converted to a turret point
It needs a CPU boost and a massive PG boost
It needs an extra midslot
It needs a speed boost allowing it to reach 2000m/s with the MWD on

As standard it should be able to fit:

6 Neutron blasters in the highs
MWD, scram, web, and cap injector in the mids
DC, EANM, Explosive Hardener, 1600mm RT plate and 2 Mag Stabs in the lows

This would leave the 2 rig slots free to add extra tank, gank or speed depending on the pilots preference. People will say this is overpowered, but the Diemos is supposed to be overpowering if it manages to get into range to use it's weapons, just read the description:

"Sharing more tactical elements with smaller vessels than with its size-class counterparts, the Deimos represents the final word in up-close-and-personal cruiser combat. Venture too close to this one, and swift death is your only guarantee. "