the solution is simple: let's extend locking range and warp-to range. That's makes the battlefield bigger, that's only fun. I can easily set up my Rokh to hit at 280 km, and that's not even all lvl 5's. Gun's optimal exceeding your locking range is silly. People warping to your sniper is also silly.

I'm all for expanding the battlespace, but rail dps only tickles from those sorts of ranges. Rails need another serious damage boost, to the point where they do more dps than beams. It's the only way to make them at all viable.

Noone snipes anymore. Its all mid range (50-100km) fights for the most part.

Nobody snipes because of the scanning and warp-to mechanics. It's precisely because the range of most engagements is <100km (which therefore determines popular fitting doctrine) that sniping would become relevant again if the probing/warping mechanics were changed.

so change them

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narrow minded person trying to say their opinion is everyones.

On the other hand Proteus is the single T3 that can get the most insane buffer tank sporting 400k EHP or more - Maybe they accidentally switched a few stats between the Proteus and the Legion?

Ho dammit very sure every sub combination were tested to arrive at this awesome conclusion right?
Because atm the only way to make that legion be faster is by sacrificing another stat of those propulsion subs , unless I'm wrong and taking in account subs fitted only, no mods prop whatsoever.

What subs did you fitted for each? -I mean you can say a lot of stuff but without numbers, and from what I can see on SISI, my prot is not bad, slightly better than before. + definitive changes aren't sat since CCP tallest is about to improve ship by ship what's needed to make those work properly.

All those changes seem yummy, but I don't see anything related to buffing the range of blasters. Wasn't that the main issue blasters had originally ?

The patch notes state that Hail has had its falloff penalty removed completly.

Can someone please confirm this to be the case? If so can Void be changed as well please.

Besides obvious advantages of Minmatar, they always had a stealth advantage of not being penalized by using highest damage ammo on autocannons. Hail was the only "fair" one tbh.

so now when you "fixed" it, why does void still have -25% AND -50% penalty on optimal and falloff?

exactly, what the hell?

Besides obvious advantages of Minmatar, they always had a stealth advantage of not being penalized by using highest damage ammo on autocannons. Hail was the only "fair" one tbh.

so now when you "fixed" it, why does void still have -25% AND -50% penalty on optimal and falloff?

Because Talest is either predudice and mostly uses Winmitar characters, or due to his holiday before the patch change freeze he missed the boat.
Corruption or incompitence, take your pick.

Exactly, designing spaceships is not rocket-science.

I think the changes are a good start, but we need to see how they will affect tranquilly before anymore changes are added. The effect of running new T2 skrimish links to boost their speed along side the blaster tracking and damage and cap buffs may produce some interesting results.

So much is changing in this patch, so small steps at this point is for the better.

I almost think they need to go along the lines of increasing the optimal of AC and reducing their falloff to maintain effective max range, reducing their tracking so they dont hit as well at very short range. This might give Blasters a niche in being able to get under the other races guns. Currently AC have about the same tracking as hybrids after the hybrid buff. Buffing a weapon system to only have parity in an area that is supposed to excell in is not exactly doing it properly.

It would be nice to see all four races used to a roughly even ratio but alas we still wont, Mini and Amarr will still be the races of 0.0. Hybrids and Missiles just have too small a use.

Here's hopping they will fix it in 2014 when Hybrids get looked at again.

* Hail (all sizes): Reduced falloff penalty from 50% to 25%

So... patch is live and Hail has no falloff penalty....