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So aretha is still using a shotgun but u. bolt switched rifle with a tankkiller mashine gun :p

I think railguns could be made more unique by decreasing the damage penalty for long range ammos.

* Active tanking vs passive tanking. And by extension, armor tanking vs shield tanking.

Giving every active tank a boost in hitpoints generated while changing crystal implants to something else will give EVERYBODY an equal oportunity to have a viable active tank without riscing their implants has multiple benefits : 1,5b isk spent on implants will no longer give people the same advantage as now, people might use active tanks out of empire/lowsec without fearing loss of implants to bubbles and people will no longer be forced into faction equipment just to be competible with T2 buffer tanks.

risc vs reward is a nice legacy, however so is the concept of diminishing returns and currently crystal sets will give the rich people a huge advantage. Also because it is a valuable asset plugged into your clone most people given this option will only use them in parts of Eve where they have a little risc of losing them...

Making slaves work as crystals will solve very few issues compared to fixing it the other way around. Maybe crystals shouldn't be changed to work like slaves, but for sure slaves should never be changed to work like crystals.

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That's why I say shield overtanking should be penalized as much as armour overtanking - i.e. making your ship slower. In this case typical Cane losts some of its appeal.

yeah make caldari even more slower --> they will start move backward ^^ hopefully faster than matar :D

Even slower? Have you flown amarr actually?

There's nothing wrong with making buffer-tanked Caldari and Matari slower. Matari will still be ahead of any other race while Caldari will stand on pair with Amarr in this regard. Gallente - somewhere in between Matari and the other two.

I find it interesting that people talk about the range of other weapons platforms and expect this to be the main issue. Blasters in particular have always been a close range weapon that is supposed to do excessive damage at close quarters. No one has ever mentioned an issue when your target is within range of your guns but rather before.

The issue with blasters and armor tanked gallente and caldari ships in general (Rokh, Megathron, etc) has always been GETTING to your target and locking them down. Once their in your clutches it's pretty much good night Irene.

I find the solution rather simple. Give a web bonus in range not strength. Make it to where a Megathron can web out to 25 km and at least give it a chance to close in and lock the target down. The reason why the Vindicator is so popular is really because of the ability to lock it's target down with increased web strength.

If you truly want blaster platforms to be viable in a kite fest such as todays combat situations always are, you need to give the slower, brawlers an ability to actually catch something foolish enough to get within it's clutches. You wanna warp disrupt a Megathron? You risk being webbed.

it would certainly make for an interesting element to cat and mouse if you ask me.

25km? Seriously? And how much will it make when bonused and pimped out? 50? I don't see how this is realistic..

As for the risk of being webbed by gallente boats, it's already there. Just don't be stupid and don't stand still - pilot your damn ship instead..

I don't deny some stuff needs tweaking (shield rigs and extenders need to have speed penalties intead of foolish signature ones), but asking for such a long web is just way too much.

It would, but I think it's rather silly to suggest hybrids get their value from yet another module. There are two problems with using webs to bandaid hybrids:

1) realistically, this only fixes blasters and does nothing for rails

2) if I decided to trick out my ship in mid slots, foregoing a web and just using a scram/disrupt, I'm right back to underperforming hybrids.

I cannot stand using other modules to bandaid poor modules. It doesn't do anything but mask the underlying problems. No, hybrids need to be fixed.

I'm saying this would wind up being the max range with say battleship 5. The bonus would only apply to certain ships like the Megathron and the Bruitx.

25 km with free tech2 modules? What I'm saying is: throw in some isk and gang-bonuses and you'll end up with insanity of 50 km webs.

Value? Blasters have ALWAYS been a short range weapon and always should be. The second your change that you've taken away their niche which is close close face melting dps.

We're focusing on Blasters. Please try to keep up okay?

What are you talking about? The typical fitting for mids on a Megathron are an MWD, Scram, Web, Cap Injector. Nothing has changed here. And please explain to me how exactly giving a web range bonus to a Megathron hull gimps blasters?

Have you heard nothing of the discussion's over the past 3 months on hybrids. It's not only the guns themselves but the hulls in which they are applied to that need changing as well.

Blasters are working as intended now with the patch update Magosian. A 3 mag stab mega with Void and Ogre's now pumps out 1406 dps with neutrons. The dps is now more than sufficient. Blasters recieved a tracking buff and fitting requirement reduction which is more than ample.

However it has always been applying these weapons to a hull that has hardly any chance of catching it's faster agile target that is the underlying issue.

I still think this thread is too cluttered with suggestions that just mask the underlying issues.

PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION CCP! THIS IS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM WITH HYBRIDS!

Lets say we gave blasters an effective range that allowed TEs to boost it into the 20-25km range, much like autocannons and scorched pulses.

Let's also say we gave railguns respectable alpha damage and increased its dps to match either artillery or beams.

This is, by the way, pretty much what the playerbase has been asking for in this thread, as best as I can interpret.

Given these changes were made live, would I use hybrids? HELL NO!

Why not?

-projectiles are cap-free
-lasers have instant ammo reload
-ships with projectile bonuses provide the pilot with the best speed in the game; this is a passive defensive mechanic
-ships with laser bonuses provide the pilot with the best EHP in the game; this is a passive defensive mechanic

If you are not willing to give Gallente/Caldari hybrid ships a native, passive, defensive mechanic, IN ADDITION TO GIVING HYBRID TURRETS MATCHING DPS AND RANGE STATS TO MAKE THEM EQUALLY EFFECTIVE IN COMBAT, then you WILL NOT entice pilots to choose hybrids.

The only thing I learned from the hybrid changes in Crucible is CCP doesn't understand the underlying problem. Well, here it is.

Make hybrids fun. Make them USEFUL. Make sure blasterboat pilots don't have to play the "all-in" game by committing to a fight without any option to run away. Make sure railguns are WORTH the trouble of costing cap, plagued with reload timers, stuck on weak ships, have fixed damage type. Hybrids still have all cons and no pros. You have yet to address this in Crucible.

I'm sure CCP knows the real issues, they just don't know how to fix it properly without making hybrids the next FOTM.