I'm just curious what the problem is with bringing enough scrams to do the job. You know they can refit... "But I don't WANT to have to do that!" is not the same thing as 'The game is broken now'. The game is DIFFERENT now.

We get it, you want easymode kills to pad your KB stats. Heaven forbid you have to actually work for it.

I'm just curious what the problem is with bringing enough scrams to do the job. You know they can refit... "But I don't WANT to have to do that!" is not the same thing as 'The game is broken now'. The game is DIFFERENT now.

You realise that most tacklers only have max 4 mids if that, they usually need a prop mod, web, scram and some form of tank - .... And your 'don't attack ships if they have a mobile depot out' - speechless...

EvE's New Carebearism doctrine at its finest.

You realise that most tacklers only have max 4 mids if that, they usually need a prop mod, web, scram and some form of tank - .... And your 'don't attack ships if they have a mobile depot out' - speechless...

EvE's New Carebearism doctrine at its finest.

Yeah must be that - I want easy kills. Heaven forbid you have to actually use your brain to properly pre-fit your ship before you carebear rather than throwing all your escape mods in a depot.

Oh NM you're a goon, this mod is a boon for your new renters... I see how it managed to get past the dev's stupidar now.

I`ll have you understand that sliced bread totally IS awesome. It has the awesomeness of leading us to Sandwiches. How can you consider it not that great?

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The only other ways to refit are if you're in a very expensive capital ship. That can be tackled and killed. Or using a very expensive industrial cap ship, which can be tackled and killed. Both of which do not reinforce, do not' cost 2 million isk.

Tell me more about all the caps you have killed solo.

I don't know what's better.


The 1001 inventive or creative ways players use new stuff.


Or the 1001 complaints from players who did not or would not adapt and lost some green on their killboards, or ISK in their wallet.

Fail argument - Bring an heavy interdictor. Cause they can cloak in WH right? Won't work on T3s without focused.
Fail argument - fit more scrams. So a tackler now needs to fit up to 4 scrams to tackle one ship.
Fail argument - anchor a bubble. So we warp in, ask the guy to wait while we deploy a bubble and it anchors. Won't work on T3,s.
Fail argument - bring friends. Because the only way we should be able to catch a single ship is by ganking them. Remember for each ship you'll need a focused interdictor or a tackler with at least 4 scrams, for 8 low slot ships one will need to be a +3 of course.
Fail argument - put it into reinforced. It has 18k EHP. To reinforce it before he can right click and auto load his fit you're going to need about 3kdps.

We need this depot fixed such that it cannot be used during combat.

I don't know what's better.


The 1001 inventive or creative ways players use new stuff.


Or the 1001 complaints from players who did not or would not adapt and lost some green on their killboards, or ISK in their wallet.

I hope CCP does NOTHING to change MDs. Not because I am for or against them and how they are used or will be used (I have not used them and no plans for it), but for the entertainment .

Screw me, I....I......I....I agree with Herzog Wolfhammer.

That coldness under your feet it hell freezing over.

No. None of those arguments fail. Quite the opposite, in fact: they provide working and easily available solutions to the (non-)problem. Just beacause you can't or won't employ strategies that work doesn't mean the strategies are invalid.

Why?

It's like you live in some kind of bubble where the actual content of the thread can't touch you.

No. None of those arguments fail. Quite the opposite, in fact: they provide working and easily available solutions to the (non-)problem. Just beacause you can't or won't employ strategies that work doesn't mean the strategies are invalid.

Why?

Maybe you should bring a ship that is up to the task? I.e. choose a ship with more mid slots and/or a armor tanking ship. With 2 RF warp scramblers, the target needs to have 6 stabs fitted to warp away, why is that not an option?

1. You cannot fit more scrams than you have mid slots. This module removes any functionality that a interceptor has regarding CCP's supposed "they're supposed to intercept". Please Tippia, explain to me how any interceptor can intercept a ship that can fit more WCS than an inty can fit disruptors? Or do you think inties should fit scrams now and orbit at 10k? Even if they did, still not enough scrams.

Tell me how we're supposed to jump into a renter system with a 10 large bubbles on a gate, tackle a ratter and stay alive long enough to keep him there with our 3 scrams, no prop mod, tank, cap injector? Do we now use 8 interceptors to tackle one battleship? Don't be foolish. How about when we have to tackle a carrier? Oh and what about that battleship that has 8 heavy neuts in his depot, or a bunch of ECM, or sensor damps, or RLML.

i like it how you advice to use 2x RF scramblers of tackler

looks like goons these days have no ideas about market prices.... and about pvp in general....

Is it real sign of Eve finally dumbed down?

You're fantastic as saying nothing while sounding like the authoritive voice of CCP. That's pretty much what you did there say nothing and pretend you provided an answer.

All of those arguments fail.

1. You cannot fit more scrams than you have mid slots. This module removes any functionality that a interceptor has regarding CCP's supposed "they're supposed to intercept". Please Tippia, explain to me how any interceptor can intercept a ship that can fit more WCS than an inty can fit disruptors? Or do you think inties should fit scrams now and orbit at 10k? Even if they did, still not enough scrams.

Tell me how we're supposed to jump into a renter system with a 10 large bubbles on a gate, tackle a ratter and stay alive long enough to keep him there with our 3 scrams, no prop mod, tank, cap injector? Do we now use 8 interceptors to tackle one battleship? Don't be foolish. How about when we have to tackle a carrier? Oh and what about that battleship that has 8 heavy neuts in his depot, or a bunch of ECM, or sensor damps, or RLML.

2. Was a joke, but its funny to see you say its a viable option. Yes, lets ask the target to sit around while our bubbles anchor :)

3. Bring friends... as I said above, every gang needs 8 interceptors now to tackle one ship? The very idea of actually small and solo pvp is so ludicrous we don't need it in the game right? Silly me after 10 years thinking I should be able to tackle a ship all by myself...

4. To put an 18k depot into reinforced in a tackling ship is impossible before the owner can click it and refit, it takes several seconds to refit.

i like it how you advice to use 2x RF scramblers of tackler

looks like goons these days have no ideas about market prices.... and about pvp in general....

Is it real sign of Eve finally dumbed down?

Which of these was different before the mobile depot? Well, yeah, they can change their fit in space now... but before, if they had fit those scrams before undocking, you still wouldn't be able to lock them down, right? So no difference.

Yeah those RF's will be great once the target fits the heavy neuts, 3 webs and a bunch of warrior II's from his depot... you can sell them and buy something nice for your ratting ship. Or you could wait for me to run out of cap since my inty is bonused for disruptors...