Well, that just comes down to preparation once again, doesn't it? They've prepared for the possibility that it might be scanned down and invested in the tools needed to counter that eventuality, so now you've got to counter-prepare by bringing out a top-notch scanner and further invest in the tools that goes with that particular process.

SoGǪ how is providing everyone with more tools, more options, more strategies, more counters and counter-counters turn the game into WoW?

Well, that just comes down to preparation once again, doesn't it? They've prepared for the possibility that it might be scanned down and invested in the tools needed to counter that eventuality, so now you've got to counter-prepare by bringing out a top-notch scanner and further invest in the tools that goes with that particular process.

Its none of those things you mention, its a way of fitting WCS to flee from any risk.

Since you support riskless suicide ganking its not difficult to believe you would support this garbage.

Everything in this thread confirms that I was right to passionately support the introduction of these modules.

Its none of those things you mention, its a way of fitting WCS to flee from any risk.

Since you support riskless suicide ganking

Suicide ganking isn't risk free at all.

Of course suicide ganking is risk and effort free, in Infinitys head anyway.

Everybody knows that it takes absolutely zero effort to organise a fleet, plot out insta-undocks, pre-prep Concord, scan potential victims ships for fit and shinys and all the other planning that goes into it. That there's zero risk or restrictions involved with being a -10 pilot in highsec and lets not forget that it's 98% cheaper to suicide gank now than it has been at any time in the past, regardless of repeated nerfs to ganking and the loss of insurance on Ships lost to Concord.

The last part is right. Zero risk, sort of like throwing a bunch of WCS in a container and sitting next to it so you don't have to PvP is zero risk.

Too bad that it's such an easy tactic to counterGǪ

Of course suicide ganking is risk and effort free, in Infinitys head anyway.

Everybody knows that it takes absolutely zero effort to organise a fleet, plot out insta-undocks, pre-prep Concord, scan potential victims ships for fit and shinys and all the other planning that goes into it. That there's zero risk or restrictions involved with being a -10 pilot in highsec and lets not forget that it's 98% cheaper to suicide gank now than it has been at any time in the past, regardless of repeated nerfs to ganking and the loss of insurance on Ships lost to Concord.

Let's not forget that expensive modules and cargo ALWAYS drops.

Same small group of easy-moders seem to think if they make the same noises over and over again their opinions will actually start to make sense. Unfortunately you can call a turd a gem as much as you like but it'll still be a turd.

These depots, along with suicide ganking will still be lame, poor, sad gameplay that removes skill, risk and effort from the game. If it makes you feel better you can believe it though. Me, I'll playing the game on its normal setting.

There are no different settings, just those who trick themselves into not using the tools available and not having the capacity to recognize they are worse for it. Understanding and using the tools available make one a better player, not worse.

The mobile depot is very balance breaking. Drone ships now can use as many drones as can fit in cargo hold.

Most ships willing to sit near it no longer need to plan out a fit. Just bring whatever and fit what you need as needed. Breaking almost all solo ability in the favour of the "prepared."

It removes all the need to Make sacrifice. And Removes most of the risk.

PvP is hard. It's a balance game and takes weeks of practice to effectively solo. Pve in comparison is not so hard and easy. Making it safer in dangerous space is mind blowing.

The mobile depot has broken the balance with virtually no risk or loss.

The mobile depo is great. But does completely tilt the balance scale in the wrong way.

I no longer need to plan a way my ship works. Seriously anything that lets me go full disco ball in 5 seconds. Or fit max cap boosters and insta fill my cap to fully rep, then back to dps mods.... It's seriously broken. Bastion mode is a joke compared to how easy this has made missions. Not even including how broken it has made Pvp.

My fully wcs covops cheetahs is a choice I make at undock. Not mid fight on grid with NPC and PvP elements in
Full swing. It needs to be limited to out of combat or some kind of limitation.

I think jester put it best; anything that's regarded as "if your not doing this your doing it wrong" is in need of a nerf.

If your not fighting next to your anchored mobile depo, your doing it wrong.

That sounds like what a criminal once said to me. The laws of society don't matter as long as you can get away with breaking them...

Me on the other hand, I prefer to play within the rules as much as possible. When I signed up for EVE 10 years ago I signed up for a particular type of game. I have put a lot of effort into my characters and I will continue to try to prevent the wowsters from making this into another piece of shite game.

If that simply means posting against the garbage the developers are putting out then that's what I'll do. Its garbage, they don't seem to have any idea of why this game attracted the loyal following it did and they seem intent on doing the same thing Sony did to EQ - make it into easy, consensual, casual garbage.

If you haven't put their mobile depot into reinforcement, you're doing it wrong.

Well we know where they'll be warping to won't we. Right to their precious I WIN button to fit some stabs... you have to be moronic to believe the depot is balanced.

lol

A ship capable of Alfa reinforcing the depo would take so long to land on grid, lock and apply dps that the target would be gone long before that argument was valid.

And I'm pointing out pve mechanics primarily. Not PvP. So if rats and npcs openly target the mobile depo like they hated drones. Problem solved

If your not fighting next to your anchored mobile depo, your doing it wrong.

Nice to see CSM hard at work turning EVE into WOW. What's next, Angels you can right click to get your stuff back?

That sounds like what a criminal once said to me. The laws of society don't matter as long as you can get away with breaking them...

Me on the other hand, I prefer to play within the rules as much as possible. When I signed up for EVE 10 years ago I signed up for a particular type of game. I have put a lot of effort into my characters and I will continue to try to prevent the wowsters from making this into another piece of shite game.

If that simply means posting against the garbage the developers are putting out then that's what I'll do. Its garbage, they don't seem to have any idea of why this game attracted the loyal following it did and they seem intent on doing the same thing Sony did to EQ - make it into easy, consensual, casual garbage.

You guys. Infinity is the same person who thinks structures shouldn't have reinforcement timers so that he can fly through nullsec by himself blowing up stuff with impunity. Easy mode indeed...

You guys. Infinity is the same person who thinks structures shouldn't have reinforcement timers so that he can fly through nullsec by himself blowing up stuff with impunity. Easy mode indeed...

Fantastic!

I support the introduction of any module/mechanic that forces players out of their comfort zone, forces evolution, adaptation and brings forth buckets and buckets of forum tears and complaining.

This is Eve done right

HTFU and long live Eve online!!!