FIRST!!!1111!!!

Cause you cheat :(

FIRST!!!1111!!!

ccp can now buy me a better monitor so I can use resolutions where I can use this feature.

40:20 eyesight means you need to get a pretty good sized IPS.

Being able to scale various parts of the UI differently would be really cool but will defiantly not be done for winter. Great idea though :)

We had also received feedback from elderly dev parents who quite enjoy the game...

Being able to scale various parts of the UI differently would be really cool but will definitely not be done for winter. Great idea though :)

edit: fixing typo

Being able to scale various parts of the UI differently would be really cool but will definitely not be done for winter. Great idea though :)

edit: fixing typo

Why not do what most MMO's do, and that's give us a way to edit the current UI layout? When in EDIT mode, it allows you to resize certain UI elements (HUD, Font Size of certain windows, lock other windows in place, etc). Liquid Layouts.

I hope this is just a temporary fix, the entire UI needs to be rethought from the ground up. It's sort of like the new forums are nice & shiny, but you still publish devblogs in the old and busted forums.... Gives people the impression that EVE isn't a complete product.

CCP Punkturis continues to bring news of user interface improvements for EVE, and the latest is an option to scale the UI according to one's preference.

The blog can be found here, and your feedback can be left here in the thread as always. Also, don't be shy to jump on the Singularity test server to try it out for yourself before the upcoming Winter Expansion.

I want wing dings and flash to work in igb and smileys to work in game and virtual potstickers and baguettes... and we want to be able to ride our machines without getting hassled by the man... and we want to get loaded.

CCP Punkturis continues to bring news of user interface improvements for EVE, and the latest is an option to scale the UI according to one's preference.

The blog can be found here, and your feedback can be left here in the thread as always. Also, don't be shy to jump on the Singularity test server to try it out for yourself before the upcoming Winter Expansion.

Heya

Good step in the right direction, but not everything on the screen is of equal importance, thus

• Can we have each part of the UI scaled individually?

E.g.

1. The HUD you showed can stay the same size, I need it for refence.
2. Id like to have a bigger overview, to easier also see the EW notifications
3. The information in the upper left corner can be scaled down (I hardly use it)
4. I want to priorize my chat windows, corp chat is less important than fleet chat, corp chat should use a small font as lots of stuff flows, fleet chat is usually just a few words but of high importance
5. The targeted object window I want to have bigger (to easier identify the ship and their current shield/armor/hull
6. ...

This is super cool, but are you sure 150% is large enough for players with really large monitors? Why not have 200% and maybe even 300% too, just in case?

Blog said that you get larger options if you have better resolution. Developer used 1920x1200 screen which can only support 150% (1024x768 scaled 150% is 1536x1152).

However 2560x1440 screen is able to support upto 187% scaling. For 300% scaling you need 3072x2304 or better resolution.

We decided to cap it at 150% because scaling it larger makes some icons look fuzzy.

150% is plenty anyways

The UI is a dinosaur and this modification doesn't bring it out of the dinosaur age.
But any positive change is welcome of course, as long as it doesn't hold up the timing of any real improvements.

We decided to cap it at 150% because scaling it larger makes some icons look fuzzy.

150% is plenty anyways

any word on the neo neocom features coming back?

Most people really wanted the features. : (


also epic UI scaling. : )

^This really needs to be reiterated. We saw a preview of the /shiny NEW UI some months ago, what's the word on its development? The preview got me excited in my special place.

As a multiboxer, all of these UI changes are great but we need a way to save the UI. I want to load the same UI on all my toons or heaven forbid I should need to clear my cache and have to redo the UI all over again for each acct if not each toon.

I want to have your babies...




On toasted rye with pickles and deli mustard

Being able to scale various parts of the UI differently would be really cool but will definitely not be done for winter. Great idea though :)

edit: fixing typo

EVE's current UI has been designed based on a certain fixed font size. For a UI to properly work with scalable fonts requires the design itself to take that into account from the start.

I'm going to take this as a compliment...

Awesome CCP, keep it up!

P.S. Learn to fit goddamn!

UI scaling and new fonts couldn't have come at a better time for me. Thanks CCP!

I can recommend Dell U2312HM. Got two myself and they're great, not too expensive either! Looking to get a third.

maybe this means we're getting more scaling settings?
*cough*95%*cough*

Deja V+¦.. why was this devblog, one month old, re-posted?
(it shows as latest dev blog when you use the "EVE insider > Dev Blogs > Blogs")

Please let us scale different elements of the UI separately!

This is a great addition, however I would prefer a separate option to scale just the UI text, as I'm happy with the size of my HUD and have never experienced HUD envy...

The reason I'll be using the scaling option will be to reduce the size of the new font to something like it's current size on TQ, but I'd rather not have to reduce the size of all my icons, controls and the HUD in order to achieve that.

Apart from that small niggle, this is a fantastic piece of work

OMG we traveled back in time!

i'd still like to request a specific change to the little green overheat slit on top of overheatable modules.

I'm guessing there's supposed to be a new dev blog and they got the ID wrong?

I rather like gaining a month of my life back. And yes, it does work like that.

Please let us override the default font! Thanks :)

I don't know why this blog was reposted but more replies to my dev blog kind of make me happy

I was pretty confused about this myself but hey, it's always nice to have some extra "face time" on the top of the dev blog page, no? : >

It's nice having this feature, by the way. It was the first new Crucible option that I turned on and tried out and it has made playing Eve so much easier for me. Thank you!

Sure, want to recode the UI to be able to handle different fonts?

Or do you want some actually useful changes?

it also got me over 500 likes!

but I'm glad to see you enjoy the feature, makes me very happy

Huh? I think you need to read that thread again.. cheers!

This seems like a nice feature, can't wait for it to be on Tranquility.

Also, although I'm sure someone else has said it a while ago, it would be cool to scale different parts of the UI separately

Edit: ok ccp Punkturis already said this is a good idea, which makes me very happy!

And you volunterr to write a UI that works no matter what font that is chosen?

I'm appalled at this change because it strikes me that the default UI size (newly labeled 100%, oh wowzies how pretty!!1!!1one!!) is now larger than what it was before the change.

No it's not. The font is bigger, because of we implemented a new font but the UI windows are the same size as they were before.

The font change also has nothing to do with scaling.

So no, the default UI size is the same as it was before.

lol, most. ruhtarded. dev. response. evar.

"no, the UI isn't bigger, it just takes up more space and doesn't show sh!t now because our font is now drawn with a crayon. But it's not bigger dammit!"

I don't understand what you mean.. the windows are the same size yes.

Edit: the font change also has nothing to do with UI Scaling so his assumption about the UI Scaling causing the text being bigger is wrong.

The font can be bigger while using the same amount of space in the UI. When we had the old font there was empty space around the text, the new larger font has less empty space around it in the UI, hence the same amount of information take up the same amount of space.

That's my unprofessional analysis though.

Is the font bigger?
If yes, then to get your windows to show the same amount of information, you have to adjust your windows sizes bigger (whether it's automatic or the user is forced to adjust it themselves is irrelevant.) Hence the footprint of the UI (user interface, all the 2D elements, windows, etc) is bigger. Your users do not care if it's the font's fault or what, a bigger font means the 2D stuff takes up more space with less room for 3D stuff.

I actually changed computers/monitors around the time the new font went live, plus with the mandatory wiping of windows positions with crucible, it was hard to do a detailed size comparison, although even on my old monitor with 90% UI scaling, the client still feels more cramped.

I'm on a 1280x800 laptop, and I've set scaling to 90%, but it's actually too small. I find numbers hard to discern, and am considering scaling back to 100% even though then my small screen feels very crowded. And note this is a pixels issue, not a square centimeter issue.

I think I'd like an intermediate 95% scaling step, though. That would give a slight but very needed improvement to screen real estate (especially important if I resume flying missions, or if I try Incursions) while probably not giving the same number-reading-problems as 90% scaling does.

Yeah 95% is something we should look into.

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The specific problem is that when I have large stacks of stuff, like minerals, I can't actually see how much is in them without having to mouse over, at 90%. I can see the first digit easily but I can't know the order of magnitude for sure. For a trader (even a part-time trader) that's problematic. I think 95% might solve that. Otherwise you're going to have to do a font tweak, or some other interface tweak.

(Note that I don't need to know precisely how much is in a stack. I can mouse over it if I need that. But it does bother me a lot that I can't know the order of magnitude, like if it is 87 million or 8.7 million or 870k tritanium.)

For the same reason, you might want to implement 105% too. Not for my sake, it won't be useful for me in my current situation, but maybe some other players will benefit from it. Also note I'm not asking you to let players set scaling to 214.33% or other such silly precision, but the 90% to 100% step is slightly too coarsegrained, and it occurs to me that perhaps some other players find the 100% to 110% step to likewise be slightly too coarsegrained.

Any chance of having the contexual menu (right mouse click) having it's own seperate 're-sizing' option. I'm happy with my general text/UI size, but avoid using the contextual message because its too small and easy to misclick.