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CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9089	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:38:00 - [1] - Quote 7o everyone. We've got another addition ready to gather some feedback for. This one will release in a future Rubicon point release (I know which internal release it will be in but we're not sure yet if it will be called 1.2 or 1.3 in public). We will be releasing a full line of Hull Repair Drones! We expect that these drones will be especially useful for those times when you need to rep a relatively small amount of structure damage, such as an incapped Starbase module. There will be Hull Repair Drones in Light, Medium and Heavy sizes, both T1 and T2. Their skill requirements will follow the same pattern as Armor Rep Drones, except using the Remote Hull Repair Systems skill instead of the Remote Armor Repair Systems skill. Like other logistic drones, these will require the Repair Drone Operation skill as well as the Drones skill. The Repair Drone Operation skill will be expanded to apply its rep rate bonus to Hull Maintenance Bots as well as Armor and Shield bots. All the drones will apply their reps every 5s, and the hull repaired per cycle for each drone will be: Light Hull Maintenance Bot I - 6 Light Hull Maintenance Bot II - 7 Medium Hull Maintenance Bot I - 12 Medium Hull Maintenance Bot II - 16 Heavy Hull Maintenance Bot I - 30 Heavy Hull Maintenance Bot II - 36 We'll let you guys know when these hit SISI for your testing pleasure. It will be a few weeks since our testing priority right now is the new Universe Data changes that are on SISI as we speak. Let us know what you think! Thanks -Fozzie Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Lephia DeGrande Luxembourg Space Union 216	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:39:00 - [2] - Quote Uhhh nice!
Chitsa Jason Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 1107	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:41:00 - [3] - Quote Finally no need for wormhole dwellers to refit mods to rep structure damage :) CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
Dunk Dinkle Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 17	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:46:00 - [4] - Quote Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 7o
Kaeden Dourhand Capital Fusion. Circle-Of-Two 10	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:48:00 - [5] - Quote Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1.
Berluth Luthian Meltdown. 176	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:49:00 - [6] - Quote Drone Repair Augmentors will help them as well?

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9090	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:51:00 - [7] - Quote Berluth Luthian wrote: Drone Repair Augmentors will help them as well? Yup Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 968	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:52:00 - [8] - Quote Nice! What will the faction of these drones be? About their stats, I think you should reconsider the amount of light T2. Between T1 and T2 you have a difference of 6 for heavy, 4 for meds, it should be 2 for lights, not 1. From a percentage perspective thats an increase of 20% for Heavy between T1 and T2, 33% for Medium, and 17% for Lights. Would be cool to raise it to 33%. It would be the higher increase but we're talking about light drones which repair insignificant amounts anyway. Details details I know Kaeden Dourhand wrote: Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1. Fixed that for you ^^ Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
Rab See Fool Mental Junket 31	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:53:00 - [9] - Quote The only downside is that I will have to recycle my useless Tempest that was setup as a Large Hull Repping Monster. One day, Tempests will be useful ...
Mag's the united SCUM. 16623	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:54:00 - [10] - Quote Yea it's a logical move and good idea. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

TheMercenaryKing StarFleet Enterprises Almost Awesome. 134	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:54:00 - [11] - Quote Yes, add more drones.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Hello-There 156	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:55:00 - [12] - Quote Would make sense for these to be SOE drones
Aurora Fatalis Blacklight Recon 68	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:55:00 - [13] - Quote Kaeden Dourhand wrote: Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1. How DARE you add content instead of... of... I dunno, we'll need to get an expert like Dinsdale on the case.
elitatwo Congregatio 200	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:57:00 - [14] - Quote Cool! You have my blessing carry on ! signature
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 968	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:58:00 - [15] - Quote Aurora Fatalis wrote: Kaeden Dourhand wrote: Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1. How DARE you add content instead of... of... I dunno, we'll need to get an expert like Dinsdale on the case. Some would say: How dare you create new drones instead of fixing sov! How dare you do ANYTHING instead of fixing sov? Don't even breathe! :D Of course they would be wrong but still they could give this sort of feedback. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
Escobar Slim III YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx 61	Posted - 2014.01.30 14:59:00 - [16] - Quote These are good I would like to see a person use them in a cool frigate 1v1 like warp you're rapier alt into a battle and set the hull reping drones onto the hull and repair the hull. for 1v1's who using booster alt does this mean that there will be new link modules like the armor links on the legion, that is what I am thinking at all said. or what are future plans for it?
Nicen Jehr Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 342	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:03:00 - [17] - Quote anyone know offhand if you can assist your rep drones to a buddy, have him lock your ship, and have your rep drones repair your ship? Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á\| My Little Things posts
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 968	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:07:00 - [18] - Quote Nicen Jehr wrote: anyone know offhand if you can assist your rep drones to a buddy, have him lock your ship, and have your rep drones repair your ship? Logistic drones and ECM (or E-war in general? I don't know.) drones cannot assist anyone, they do not have the option to. They should fix that. ECM would be easy because its an offensive mechanism. Logistics on the other hand would have to see their assist triggered, not on agression, but on reps. Assists with logistics is a tricky part because you could then, assuming you're two players with a drone bay, use your drone bay to increase your tank, which obviously isn't something the drone bay is meant to do. At least not in another way than "shredding to pieces what's attacking you" kind of tank. Edit: Of course, drone assist is also a broken mechanism in itself with its perfectly coordinated 4-second alpha for sentrys. But leaving it for non-sentry drones seems a viable thing to me. That's another debate though... Just don't expect any minor change do drone assist before they eventually rewamp the whole system once and for all. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 2630	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:07:00 - [19] - Quote Yay! Happy dance! Ill use em to fix drones that have caught NPC aggro (and do not get home quite fast enough). I can also see them used in incursion fleets to fix someone who did not get the needed RR quite fast enough. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Ersahi Kir The Empire Corporation 375	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:08:00 - [20] - Quote You have to assign repair drones manually, so no. Nice addition though, no complaints.

LtCol Laurentius Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 153	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:09:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: It will be a few weeks since our testing priority right now is the new Universe Data changes that are on SISI as we speak. -Fozzie new Universe Data changes?
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 968	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:22:00 - [22] - Quote LtCol Laurentius wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: It will be a few weeks since our testing priority right now is the new Universe Data changes that are on SISI as we speak. -Fozzie new Universe Data changes? Found it for you :) It was initially about the universe data migration so I edited the quote for readability. CCP Lebowski wrote: What is this universe data[...]? The universe data contains, for example: the positions for all systems, planets, gates, asteroid belts and the asteroids in these belts. [...] There are many systems in EVE which use the universe data in some, sometimes unexpected, way. The path finder, for example, is also used in the market! [...] maybe you will find something broken in a weird corp function or when trying to use a titan portal. This [...] is huge and touches almost everything Are they preparing the new buildable stargates? A rewamp of SOV? The opening of Jove Space??? ... I personally think that they are just testing the Titanomachy graveyard :D Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 501	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:30:00 - [23] - Quote CCP, have you thought about doing cap transfer drones? I think they'd be pretty cool.
Janeway84 Aliastra Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:32:00 - [24] - Quote Kick ass! Now all logi ships and logi subsystems needs to have RR hull rep drone bonus added to them
Jureth22 Vanguard Frontiers Black Legion. 156	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:50:00 - [25] - Quote why another useless item?please fix eve before introducing more crap
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1633	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:55:00 - [26] - Quote Is there going to be ships with bonuses towards Hull tanking/Hull repair? If not, think about it a little bit! Stargates aren't located within POS shields. The stargate itself and everyone around it is vulnerable to attack. So why is a Titan located within a POS shield when a Jump Portal is activated? The Titans should not be allowed complete safety!
Hiton Kado School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:08:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Light Hull Maintenance Bot II - 7 This should be 8, according to my OCD.
Grarr Dexx Snuff Box 316	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:14:00 - [28] - Quote Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again?
Rendiff Funk Soul Brothers High Rollers 50	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:24:00 - [29] - Quote Excellent
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Insidious Empire 130	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:29:00 - [30] - Quote This has been a long, long, LONG time coming, (I remember seeing threads asking for these from 2005) so yeah, I think it's wonderful and a great addition that'll make the game more fun. It's almost as if the whole 'lets bring some common sense to ships and module rebalancing has found it's way into drones. GOOD. Please keep it up CCP Fozzie AND CCP, I know Fozzie has a love/hate relationship with many players because of the old 'you can't please ALL of the people ALL of the time' stuff. But this change was needed, and after years of asking for it (I think even a few months ago I seriously asked for it again myself, heh) I'm glad that we'll see them hopefully enter the game for the next patch. My only question is this: CCP Fozzie I know there won't be tech 2 bpo's for these, all will come from invention, but will there be a chance to see named hull repper drones some how or isn't that something you want to tackle at this time? Thanks for another addition that was sorely needed. holds tongue about POS and Outpost mechanics

Le Petite More Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 78	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:35:00 - [31] - Quote Cultural Victory! Also thanks for throwing these in, it has always felt like something that should be in the game.
Deacon Abox Justified Chaos 293	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:37:00 - [32] - Quote Jureth22 wrote: why another useless item?please fix eve before introducing more crap You're just crazy. This is a great new addition and fills some holes in game mechanics and environments that have been there forever. Fozzie what race of drone will they be made from? Or will they be totally new design? Trying to stay only positive in this post because it is truly a good addition to the game. . . . Argh, I can't do it. I must mention my bewilderment at the non-ecm ewar mod nerfs. Really, why the hell did you guys nerf those mods? Ecm is so much better still. And if you are determined to nerf the mods, why not nerf them further, BUT counter buff the specialized ships for those mods. Also, immobile easily destructible sentrys don't need nerfing through nerfing omnidirectionals. Nerf carrier drone capacity through creating a specialized fighter bay or something. And nerf drone assist. . . . Sorry couldn't, wouldn't, stop myself. But yes, hull repair drones are a great and welcome new addition to the game. Thanks

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9099	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:37:00 - [33] - Quote Banlish wrote: CCP Fozzie I know there won't be tech 2 bpo's for these, all will come from invention, but will there be a chance to see named hull repper drones some how or isn't that something you want to tackle at this time? We'll keep it to T1 and inventable T2 for now, but adding more variants of all repair drones is definitely an option for the future. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Rionan Nafee Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance 334	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:38:00 - [34] - Quote Very nice. Will they have own drone models or will the use standard scout drone models? Individual models f++r support drones (similar to the salvage drones) would be nice.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9099	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:39:00 - [35] - Quote Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Vicar2008 Perkone Caldari State 73	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:44:00 - [36] - Quote Jureth22 wrote: why another useless item?please fix eve before introducing more crap Real Men Hull tank Dude
Aurora Fatalis Blacklight Recon 72	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:47:00 - [37] - Quote Deacon Abox wrote: Fozzie what race of drone will they be made from? Or will they be totally new design? Medium Minmatar Duct Tape Dispenser II
Calian Jutuan Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:54:00 - [38] - Quote 7o baby!
Maximus Aerelius PROPHET OF ENIGMA 1217	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:55:00 - [39] - Quote About fracking time CCP Fozzie! ha ha. Jokes aside a fantastic addition to the game that we've wanted for a long time. Glad to see T1 and T2 coming online at the same time and not just a T1 "See how it goes" malarkey. GJ guys +1. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > \|_\| < Fill 'er up!
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 502	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:58:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. is removing drone assist altogether more trouble than it's worth?

Taul Masok Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 2	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:00:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: 7o everyone. Let us know what you think! Thanks -Fozzie One of us, one of us. 7o

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 10997	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:10:00 - [42] - Quote Finally! GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 586	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:11:00 - [43] - Quote Thank you. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU And our structures thank you. No more 'bring capital hull reps and sit way outside the shields'.
lnglr X-Com inc Darkness of Despair 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:14:00 - [44] - Quote Quote: I think it's wonderful and a great addition that'll make the game more fun. Enlighten me pls, how exactly will this make the game more fun for a majority of players? Or did you mean yourself? Really, I tried many careers and I fail to see how this would help mission grinding carebear, or low-sec camping pirate, or industrialists or those engaged in FW There are FEW ppl who will find this SLIGHTLY useful, yes. Like CTA-fleet logis who will be able to rep hull of damaged ships AFTER battle which happens not so often, cos most of the time you either rep them from shield/armor or they just die from alpha-strike. Sometimes it can help to rep structures, but only small ones. With these numbers of repaired hp/sec it will take ages to rep large POS tower for example. So you need to bring capitals anyway. Therefore as for me it's pretty much waste of dev's time and efforts. There are many more things to add or fix in the game.
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 674	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:26:00 - [45] - Quote good call. will add my voice to some T1 /T2 logi getting bonuses for these drones plz. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
MeBiatch GRR GOONS 1700	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:40:00 - [46] - Quote ok cool now i know what to put in the remining 25m3 for my rattlesnake... always hate it when my drones go to hull. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request
Mark Cato EVE Corporation 98268976 10	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:45:00 - [47] - Quote lnglr wrote: Quote: I think it's wonderful and a great addition that'll make the game more fun. Enlighten me pls, how exactly will this make the game more fun for a majority of players? Or did you mean yourself? Really, I tried many careers and I fail to see how this would help mission grinding carebear, or low-sec camping pirate, or industrialists or those engaged in FW There are FEW ppl who will find this SLIGHTLY useful, yes. Like CTA-fleet logis who will be able to rep hull of damaged ships AFTER battle which happens not so often, cos most of the time you either rep them from shield/armor or they just die from alpha-strike. Sometimes it can help to rep structures, but only small ones. With these numbers of repaired hp/sec it will take ages to rep large POS tower for example. So you need to bring capitals anyway. Therefore as for me it's pretty much waste of dev's time and efforts. There are many more things to add or fix in the game.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 1468	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:50:00 - [48] - Quote Now just extend drone damage bonuses (from ship hulls) to drone ewar strength, drone rep strength, and add t2 ewar drones. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Destiny Calling North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion 30	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:53:00 - [49] - Quote I'm more disappointed that these items took so long to implement. Better late than never i guess :lowrep:
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 502	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:54:00 - [50] - Quote Batelle wrote: add t2 ewar drones unsubbing all accounts

Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:57:00 - [51] - Quote hull repair drones?.......OMG, now we need functional hull tanking.......taking the time to post this here i hope you can put this in the meeting table someday fozzie https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4057502#post4057502
Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.30 17:58:00 - [52] - Quote double post.....deleted
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1202	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:05:00 - [53] - Quote Batelle wrote: and add t2 ewar drones. and the partial list of drone centric rigs/implants need filling out as well and there's the combat utility drones that could do with a T2 & Faction make over why no Amarrian/Blood Neut Drone etc. why no Gallenete/Serpentis S-Damp Drones, or Caldari/Guiristas ECM Drones etc adding these drone variations through Pirate/FW stores makes sense, regular Empire stores could also get the main variants at higher price/conversion points too. at least this a good start on addressing the poor state of drone affairs.
Kesthely Fleet of the Damned Ace of Spades. 111	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:09:00 - [54] - Quote The only negative thing about it i can think off is that they probably will be more effective then remote hull repairers... But instead of that i'm just going to give you a hug and say thank you! hugs Thank you!
Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:13:00 - [55] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Would make sense for these to be SOE drones imagines drones with ambulance colors ........ :Q_________________
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 9694	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:19:00 - [56] - Quote About. *****. Time. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?**
Zarnak Wulf In Exile. Imperial Outlaws. 1493	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:27:00 - [57] - Quote Any chance of looking at: Amarr or Caldari combat drones? Neut, TD, Web, TP, or SD drones?
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 502	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:32:00 - [58] - Quote Zarnak Wulf wrote: Any chance of looking at: Amarr or Caldari combat drones? Neut, TD, Web, TP, or SD drones? caldari combat drones are fine, as much as anyone's combat drones are
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 2171	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:36:00 - [59] - Quote Aurora Fatalis wrote: Kaeden Dourhand wrote: Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1. How DARE you add content instead of... of... I dunno, we'll need to get an expert like Dinsdale on the case. Why would I complain about hull repping drones? It is a logical extension since we have ship based hull reppers. That being said, this does not make up for the devastation he has caused in so many other areas. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 145	Posted - 2014.01.30 18:58:00 - [60] - Quote i hope this opens a door for hull tanking.....at least a buffer hull with help from hull repping drones could prove viable.....since hull reppers as a whole are garbage right now..... :(

Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2887	Posted - 2014.01.30 19:24:00 - [61] - Quote There goes CCP again nerfing variety, nuance, and intelligent choice in Eve. Seriously does it never end? How long before all ships are just "skins" on top of the same basic thing? It's already started. Mark my words, this is just one in a continuing series of steps of homogenizing and dumbing down Eve for WoW nerds. The game we all love is dying a slow death, and you're all cheering for it. Good job. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Escobar Slim III YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx 62	Posted - 2014.01.30 19:48:00 - [62] - Quote Oh yeah? Well were did you get you're clothes from?
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 970	Posted - 2014.01.30 20:18:00 - [63] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: There goes CCP again nerfing variety, nuance, and intelligent choice in Eve. Seriously does it never end? How long before all ships are just "skins" on top of the same basic thing? It's already started. Mark my words, this is just one in a continuing series of steps of homogenizing and dumbing down Eve for WoW nerds. The game we all love is dying a slow death, and you're all cheering for it. Good job. What? How does adding a new pack of items would NERF VARIETY? Was your rant even supposed to mean something? Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
Arthur Aihaken State Protectorate Caldari State 2854	Posted - 2014.01.30 20:22:00 - [64] - Quote Maybe we can include some T2 Salvage Drones along with these... (hint, hint) I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2887	Posted - 2014.01.30 20:33:00 - [65] - Quote Altrue wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: There goes CCP again nerfing variety, nuance, and intelligent choice in Eve. Seriously does it never end? How long before all ships are just "skins" on top of the same basic thing? It's already started. Mark my words, this is just one in a continuing series of steps of homogenizing and dumbing down Eve for WoW nerds. The game we all love is dying a slow death, and you're all cheering for it. Good job. What? How does adding a new pack of items would NERF VARIETY? Was your rant even supposed to mean something? Seriously? You don't see the glaring fact that, say, ships are no longer a big tactical choice because of the whole stupid "tiericide" crap? That seriously takes the cake! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 2952	Posted - 2014.01.30 20:41:00 - [66] - Quote Please use Minmatar drone models for this! It's only fitting that a race that builds ships out of salvage knows best how to repair hulls on the fly! Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 1881	Posted - 2014.01.30 21:06:00 - [67] - Quote Good idea. Any chance of a future meta one (or perhaps an alternate T2 one) that moves faster but repairs less? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info.
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 2174	Posted - 2014.01.30 21:15:00 - [68] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: Altrue wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: There goes CCP again nerfing variety, nuance, and intelligent choice in Eve. Seriously does it never end? How long before all ships are just "skins" on top of the same basic thing? It's already started. Mark my words, this is just one in a continuing series of steps of homogenizing and dumbing down Eve for WoW nerds. The game we all love is dying a slow death, and you're all cheering for it. Good job. What? How does adding a new pack of items would NERF VARIETY? Was your rant even supposed to mean something? Seriously? You don't see the glaring fact that, say, ships are no longer a big tactical choice because of the whole stupid "tiericide" crap? That seriously takes the cake! I have to agree. That, and the MTU unit means that no one has to make hard choices about fitting a ship. "Oh, I chose the wrong hardener, or the wrong subsystem. No worries...presto jiffy, I drop a can, wait 60 seconds, and all my bad choices are washed away." When the Recon's and T3's go through the "rebalance" grinder, that will be truly illuminating. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
MeBiatch GRR GOONS 1700	Posted - 2014.01.30 21:22:00 - [69] - Quote Well Dinsdale I will sure to have popcorn and my tinfoil hat on when they do get boosted and nerfed. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 4822	Posted - 2014.01.30 21:59:00 - [70] - Quote Batelle wrote: Now just extend drone damage bonuses (from ship hulls) to drone ewar strength, drone rep strength, and add t2 ewar drones. Right because what this game needs is more powerful ECM drones. .

Grarr Dexx Snuff Box 316	Posted - 2014.01.30 22:09:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. Even the playing field. Remove it altogether. We are not lesser EVE players.
Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated 451	Posted - 2014.01.30 22:22:00 - [72] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: We'll let you guys know when these hit SISI for your testing pleasure. It will be a few weeks since our testing priority right now is the new Universe Data changes that are on SISI as we speak. Universe Data changes??? What does this mean exactly? It sounds a lot more exciting than structure repair drones lol. Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9129	Posted - 2014.01.30 22:43:00 - [73] - Quote Swiftstrike1 wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: We'll let you guys know when these hit SISI for your testing pleasure. It will be a few weeks since our testing priority right now is the new Universe Data changes that are on SISI as we speak. Universe Data changes??? What does this mean exactly? It sounds a lot more exciting than structure repair drones lol. More information about the changes to the Universe Data and the current testing available on SISI can be found in this thread. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Xe'Cara'eos A Big Enough Lever 63	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:00:00 - [74] - Quote more choice - thank you fozzie! when was the last time I said that..... don't suppose you're going to give us any ships with a bonus to remote hull reps anytime soon?
Jureth22 Vanguard Frontiers Black Legion. 156	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:15:00 - [75] - Quote Altrue wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: There goes CCP again nerfing variety, nuance, and intelligent choice in Eve. Seriously does it never end? How long before all ships are just "skins" on top of the same basic thing? It's already started. Mark my words, this is just one in a continuing series of steps of homogenizing and dumbing down Eve for WoW nerds. The game we all love is dying a slow death, and you're all cheering for it. Good job. What? How does adding a new pack of items would NERF VARIETY? Was your rant even supposed to mean something? after the last patch eve died for me.literaly,i can barely play whitout clients crashing over and over.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1634	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:40:00 - [76] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Is there going to be ships with bonuses towards Hull tanking/Hull repair? If not, think about it a little bit! So, no future Hull tanking ships? /sadface Stargates aren't located within POS shields. The stargate itself and everyone around it is vulnerable to attack. So why is a Titan located within a POS shield when a Jump Portal is activated? The Titans should not be allowed complete safety!
Malcoreh Vakarhn Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:37:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: 7o everyone. -Fozzie Spai?
GetSirrus Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:56:00 - [78] - Quote Fozzie, the Gallente & Minmatar logi cruisers current bonus to shield and armor drones - will this bonus be extended to the new hull rep drones?
Fred Dentate Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.01.31 04:16:00 - [79] - Quote 7o
Oswald Bolke Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 29	Posted - 2014.01.31 04:16:00 - [80] - Quote 7o to you too good sir

Dreeken SergalJerk Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.01.31 04:20:00 - [81] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: 7o everyone. -Fozzie 7o
Shaitan Souleater Four Past Midnight 3	Posted - 2014.01.31 04:37:00 - [82] - Quote Altrue wrote: Nice! What will the faction of these drones be? Can we make these ORE faction? Maybe give the Noctis and the Orca bonuses for them?
FT Diomedes The Graduates RAZOR Alliance 341	Posted - 2014.01.31 06:37:00 - [83] - Quote Thank you! I knew there was another benefit to training Remote Hull Repair to V... http://eveion.blogspot.com/
Malphas Inanis Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective 10	Posted - 2014.01.31 06:59:00 - [84] - Quote 7o thx for the new drones! This is one of the hardest lessons for humans to learn. We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous GÇô indifferent to all suffering, lacking all purpose.
Lidia Caderu Harbingers of Chaos Inc Catastrophic Uprising 23	Posted - 2014.01.31 07:41:00 - [85] - Quote Can you add possability for drones to rep their owner. For example as a command in right-click menu etc.
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 894	Posted - 2014.01.31 07:49:00 - [86] - Quote Aurora Fatalis wrote: Kaeden Dourhand wrote: Well, how is there any negative feedback to give about this? +1. How DARE you add content instead of... of... I dunno, we'll need to get an expert like Dinsdale on the case. Incursions. If there's any way these drones could lower the incursion isk to [insert random time unit here] by 2.5% it's Dinsdale. Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
Warde Guildencrantz TunDraGon Backseat Promises 1004	Posted - 2014.01.31 08:17:00 - [87] - Quote what about fixing ecm drones
Orion X04 Corus Industries Ltd Corus Conglomerate 27	Posted - 2014.01.31 11:26:00 - [88] - Quote Will these drones have a shiny new model like the salvage drones? Does this hint at a possible re-modelling of (Logistics) drones in general? I would love to see drone manufacturers releasing a new generation of drone designs, maybe give them dynamic sound feedback (Only audible to the player who controls them) to register they are executing your commands? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=175454 - Ferox ideas thread

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9144	Posted - 2014.01.31 11:43:00 - [89] - Quote Orion X04 wrote: Will these drones have a shiny new model like the salvage drones? Not at this time, no. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 635	Posted - 2014.01.31 11:48:00 - [90] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Orion X04 wrote: Will these drones have a shiny new model like the salvage drones? Not at this time, no. any chance of allowing drones to rep their own ship? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.

MeBiatch GRR GOONS 1701	Posted - 2014.01.31 15:12:00 - [91] - Quote Harvey James wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Orion X04 wrote: Will these drones have a shiny new model like the salvage drones? Not at this time, no. any chance of allowing drones to rep their own ship? they need to rewrite the drone code to do nifty stuff like that. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request
Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 148	Posted - 2014.01.31 16:27:00 - [92] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Is there going to be ships with bonuses towards Hull tanking/Hull repair? If not, think about it a little bit! So, no future Hull tanking ships? /sadface at this point in the game i dont think we can get that, as i proposed in my own thread, it could be a non bonused option with its own different ways of management (active using midslots and buffer using lowslots). so basically would lock one of the two ways depending on the ship. originally Gallente would have been the hull tanking race (gallente have the most structure HP in the game from all the 4 empires)....but it was scrapped for armor.... i support the implementation of hull tanking in the game, even if its a risky endeavor, you're gonna loose that ship anyways so why caring about it? more info on the issue here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=308944 another thing would be to add a new faction that focuses in hull only (jovians? rogue drone based ships maybe?, heck even reconstructed Talocan ships could do the job, there are many options)
TarPalantir I Evolution Northern Coalition. 0	Posted - 2014.01.31 16:48:00 - [93] - Quote Two indirect consequences of this change people may want to keep in mind. 1. It seem likely that it will be very rare that anyone will fit a remote hull rep module. Most people hate them, they have high CPU and PG requirements, very high cap usage, limited rep ability, and really limited range with no ship getting a bonus. POS module, FIghter Bomber, and Super Capital repping are the few reasons they are regularly fitted from what Tar-Palantir has seen (though fully accept there may be odd specialized cases where people make use of them, but seems to be pretty rare). Doubt many will cry over this aspect, but it does seem likely to relegate an existing module (remote hull reppers) to the dust bin. The Capital sized remote reps may continue to be used because of how much they rep, but even there a carrier with 10 Large drones out may be enough to get the job done. Yes, Remote Hull reppers rep more, but with their CPU, PG, and cap requirements, they are nasty to fit and since no ship gets a bonus to their range, they are all very short range. Even if the drones rep less, they avoid all of those problems leaving all your module slots available for making more normal fitting choices. 2. POS reppers will no longer need to ever leave the POS shield edge when repping modules if they use Logi ships (which they generally do). Before you had to venture away from the shield edge to get within remote hull rep range of the incapped POS mod, making them at least a bit vulnerable to attack. WIth the drones, you'll never need to leave the edge of the shield and generally pretty easy to get back in. Will make it very difficult to harass POS mod repping. Have done a fair bit of POS repping, so this will certainly make it easier/safer, but not sure that is really a benefit to the game in general even if it is a benefit to the repper. Not saying these are reasons to cancel hull rep drones. Personally think #2 is a negative impact, but perhaps not that big of a deal in the big picture of Eve behavior. Just hadn't seen them mentioned, so Tar-Palantir thought he would put them out there.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 2004	Posted - 2014.01.31 18:59:00 - [94] - Quote Altrue wrote: Nice! What will the faction of these drones be? How can they not be Gallente? Hull tank ftw.
Kalu Alar Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.01.31 21:46:00 - [95] - Quote Sounds right to me. Can we a change to all repair drones to be able to repair your own ship if your ship it not currently targeted by NPCs or another player and you have no active targets yourself? Logically, they should be usable on your own ship, and allowing it when you are not fighting or in a fight would prevent it from being OP.
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2148	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:38:00 - [96] - Quote The issue I see with these is the same issue I see with pretty much all non combat drones, specificaly large non combat drones. They are too damn big! The limited drone bay is 99% of the time better served carring backup combat drones rather than a flight of utility drones. This becomes even worse on drone boats because if you start losing combat drones you lose out on DPS. 2(3) solutions come to mind. 1. Make utility drones 1/5 there current size (small 1m3, medium 2m3, large 5m3) but leave there required bandwidth alone. 2. Give ships a utility drone bay. This opens up options for ships that dont currently have drone bays. (3) a combination of both 1 & 2 Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement
asteroidjas Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge 24	Posted - 2014.02.01 16:11:00 - [97] - Quote Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? Well, as was stated many a time in the whole MTU bug fiasco...if you want to kill things with your drones, stop being a AFK and target everything manually. Seriously, this argument works both ways.
Mike Voidstar Voidstar Free Flight Foundation 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 17:45:00 - [98] - Quote Kalu Alar wrote: Sounds right to me. Can we a change to all repair drones to be able to repair your own ship if your ship it not currently targeted by NPCs or another player and you have no active targets yourself? Logically, they should be usable on your own ship, and allowing it when you are not fighting or in a fight would prevent it from being OP. I never understood why people believe having logistic drones repair their own ship would be in anyway OP. A fully skilled set of Heavy Armor or Sheild repair drones returnes 90hp/Sec. A fully skilled Large Armor Rep II is 81hp/Sec, but can be overheated and isn't vulnerable to being shot. By comparison, a fully skilled rack of Ogres II's on an unbonused Hull is something a bit over 310 DPS, with a full set of skilled Garde II coming in at about exactly 300dps. That can increase with DDA's, rigs and a Hull Bonus to over 800dps. Most non-combat drones are the stacked equivalent of about one module of the type for a full flight of 5, while combat drones are worth much more. The idea that 90hp of repair is worth 300 or more dps is just silly, and not at all OP especially considering If you don't like it you can just shoot the repair drone.
Silivar Karkun We are not bad. Just unlucky Goonswarm Federation 150	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:24:00 - [99] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4181542#post4181542 new iteration of the hull tanking concept
Unknown Contact1 Deutsche EvE Lehranstalt 1	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:36:00 - [100] - Quote Jiiiiha!

Justin Cody AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 79	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:53:00 - [101] - Quote seems alright to me...does that however indicate an upcoming iteration on the hull repair modules?
Jawhit Jarus Genosse Corporation Reapers Unity 11	Posted - 2014.02.03 10:36:00 - [102] - Quote Cool feature! Thanks CCP! SPACE WAR DUCKS ALL WORLD TONIGHT GALAXY NIMBUS-300 CORPORATION
Dav Varan Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 149	Posted - 2014.02.03 14:04:00 - [103] - Quote Thanks Can we get a "repair me" button. Also is now a good time to start requesting module repair drones :P
Syri Taneka NOVA-CAINE 108	Posted - 2014.02.04 05:50:00 - [104] - Quote Very nice. Will be good to be able to carry a wing of light hull bots for roams in ships with very large bays (instead of having to theoretically waste a high slot), for those rare instances someone takes hull damage and doesn't die from it.
Findell Ronuken Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.02.04 07:53:00 - [105] - Quote Are you going to make the hull reps any less terrible while you are at it?
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 633	Posted - 2014.02.04 20:50:00 - [106] - Quote Nice addition indeed. Remove insurance.
Actaeon Versaea Azaph Incorporated 14	Posted - 2014.02.05 03:59:00 - [107] - Quote I think it's a capital Idea... I miss the whole WTFBBQPWN Hull tanking concept.
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Awakened. 1356	Posted - 2014.02.06 12:24:00 - [108] - Quote I think until you are able to receive reps from your own drones, things like this, although nice, are pretty pointless. You are still going to have to get someone to meet you in space and rep you. that person may as well use remote hull reps or you could just use a local hull rep. +1
Corraidhin Farsaidh Hello-There 167	Posted - 2014.02.06 13:23:00 - [109] - Quote Both local and remote hull reps take slots though, these could be really useful on a mainly guns/missiles ship that has 50m3 drone space, since you are fighting at range if you go into hull it would be very handy to have your corpies hull rep you and vice versa without impacting your mid/high slots
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2162	Posted - 2014.02.06 14:31:00 - [110] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Both local and remote hull reps take slots though, these could be really useful on a mainly guns/missiles ship that has 50m3 drone space, since you are fighting at range if you go into hull it would be very handy to have your corpies hull rep you and vice versa without impacting your mid/high slots But that drone space is usually better served by using combat drones to kill your target faster rather than try to use rep drones. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement

Rek Seven Probe Patrol Awakened. 1356	Posted - 2014.02.06 14:44:00 - [111] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Both local and remote hull reps take slots though, these could be really useful on a mainly guns/missiles ship that has 50m3 drone space, since you are fighting at range if you go into hull it would be very handy to have your corpies hull rep you and vice versa without impacting your mid/high slots If you are talking about using these in battle, these hull rep drones will be ineffective. Just like with local hull reps, the only place that they will be used is out of combat. It could be a nice idea to take some of these on a roam so that you can rep your fleet to 100% ehp after a fight but realistically, these things work far too slow to make that viable. ... The best thing to do would be for CCP to give all logistics ships a bonus to hull rep drones and a hull rep drone bay. +1
Ellendras Silver My second corp 111	Posted - 2014.02.06 15:22:00 - [112] - Quote maybe i missed it but is there anything about the preq for the hull repair drones?
Kenhi sama Project Stealth Squad The Initiative. 5	Posted - 2014.02.06 15:57:00 - [113] - Quote Great! Awesome! Finally! I love you! :-)
Luis Alejandro Flores Matar O Morir 29	Posted - 2014.02.06 17:12:00 - [114] - Quote Incursion runners rejoice ! "When Failure becomes fun, success is inevitable." I'm failing, just waiting for the success part. Eve Forums Gold! New aesthetics, features, and workarounds to make your forum experience a more enjoyable one! Try it: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4159653
Veng3ance Origin. Black Legion. 38	Posted - 2014.02.07 17:08:00 - [115] - Quote Good addition thanks guys. Keep up the good work!
Alundil Sky Fighters 395	Posted - 2014.02.08 21:12:00 - [116] - Quote Welcome addition Chitsa Jason wrote: Finally no need for wormhole dwellers to refit mods to rep structure damage :) Because of this ^ Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival
Ransu Asanari Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 81	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:04:00 - [117] - Quote Very nice addition. More ways to repair damage while in deep space means less docking up, fits with the future vision as I understand it. Will the 100% bonus to Logistic Drone repair amount on the T1 Logistics ships apply to these drones? Will any of the T2 Logistics ships have a bonus to Hull Repair amount? CCP Fozzie wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. +1 on this, sorry to hear it's a lot of work. I thought it was a bug so I reported it. Trying to get on killmails with drones while stuff is being alpha'd and disappearing almost as fast as you can lock, while running logistics at the same time is pretty tough. Admittedly I'm new at this, but I'm embarrassed by the number of times I've accidentally attacked my teammates
Sheeana Harb Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 25	Posted - 2014.02.10 13:11:00 - [118] - Quote Luis Alejandro Flores wrote: Incursion runners rejoice ! Turns out the upcoming Rubicon point release will be both pat on the back (hull drones) and kick in the balls (drone assist cap) . Balance is indeed everything.
Draconus Lofwyr UK Corp RAZOR Alliance 87	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:38:00 - [119] - Quote this is good news, but can we also get a capital hull repair unit to go along with it? to make life a little easier on capitals inside pos shields, particularly capitals that are unable to dock?
Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 526	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:24:00 - [120] - Quote Excellent addition. Thank you. Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".

Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 529	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:29:00 - [121] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. Thanks for being clear and frank about saying, "no". This kind of direct communication, including a good reason why it's "no" from the dev team is very welcome. You are a shining example to game-developer-kind Fozzie. Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
Kenhi sama Project Stealth Squad The Initiative. 5	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:32:00 - [122] - Quote i would like to see small repair drone get the 2.5 sec cycle like the small remote repair modules got in the rebalancing
Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 529	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:37:00 - [123] - Quote Ransu Asanari wrote: Very nice addition. More ways to repair damage while in deep space means less docking up, fits with the future vision as I understand it. Will the 100% bonus to Logistic Drone repair amount on the T1 Logistics ships apply to these drones? Will any of the T2 Logistics ships have a bonus to Hull Repair amount? CCP Fozzie wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: Talking about drones, when are lowsec residents going to be able to use drone assist again? The issues surrounding clearly communicating the crimewatch implications of that capability makes it more trouble than it would be worth for now. Sorry. +1 on this, sorry to hear it's a lot of work. I thought it was a bug so I reported it. Trying to get on killmails with drones while stuff is being alpha'd and disappearing almost as fast as you can lock, while running logistics at the same time is pretty tough. Admittedly I'm new at this, but I'm embarrassed by the number of times I've accidentally attacked my teammates As long as you kill one of your team-mates, you'll get on the killmail Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
Flyinghotpocket Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica 270	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:48:00 - [124] - Quote instead of adding in new drones, please just balance the races different drones. PLEASE i want some amarr drones that arnt junk (- the curator)
Tarpedo Incursionista 1237	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:17:00 - [125] - Quote What about capacitor drones? Everything else is available.
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 289	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:33:00 - [126] - Quote Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday?
Arthur Aihaken Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 2896	Posted - 2014.02.15 06:57:00 - [127] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? The day that happens is the day I unsub... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 296	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:57:00 - [128] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? The day that happens is the day I unsub... You wont be missed i imagine.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1093	Posted - 2014.02.15 23:16:00 - [129] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? The day that happens is the day I unsub... Check the maths on how little rep drones actually repair. It's not more than a local module, and it's sacrificing significant DPS for the class of the ship to do so also.
Arthur Aihaken Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 2911	Posted - 2014.02.16 02:15:00 - [130] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: You wont be missed i imagine. I wasn't expecting to be. Nevyn Auscent wrote: Check the maths on how little rep drones actually repair. It's not more than a local module, and it's sacrificing significant DPS for the class of the ship to do so also. It's more the principal on how Op drones have become without continuing to circle the drain. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Markku Laaksonen EVE University Ivy League 360	Posted - 2014.02.17 04:07:00 - [131] - Quote One more step on the road to OP Hull Tanking Super Fleets. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1093	Posted - 2014.02.17 09:13:00 - [132] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: It's more the principal on how Op drones have become without continuing to circle the drain. You mistake one particular class of drone being OP in very specific large fleet circumstances with 'all drones are OP'. In fact you are wildly off the mark. A great deal of the drones are actually significantly UP in every application, hence why most drones see next to no use.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 10158	Posted - 2014.02.19 06:22:00 - [133] - Quote These will come in handy. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 1711	Posted - 2014.02.19 11:08:00 - [134] - Quote Why waste time and effort on this when it's extremely easy to drop a depot and refit a couple of hull rappers... There's a lot of drone stuff that needs work in regards to drones. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467
Aivo Dresden Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 218	Posted - 2014.02.20 14:41:00 - [135] - Quote I like it. Now I'll have to go redo my skillplan. :P

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9291	Posted - 2014.02.20 14:49:00 - [136] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Why waste time and effort on this when it's extremely easy to drop a depot and refit a couple of hull rappers... There's a lot of drone stuff that needs work in regards to drones. This doesn't take a lot of work. It's a small change that improves the game in a small way for a small amount of effort. Pretty much the ideal definition of a "little thing" that's worth doing. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 620	Posted - 2014.02.20 14:55:00 - [137] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Infinity Ziona wrote: Why waste time and effort on this when it's extremely easy to drop a depot and refit a couple of hull rappers... There's a lot of drone stuff that needs work in regards to drones. This doesn't take a lot of work. It's a small change that improves the game in a small way for a small amount of effort. Pretty much the ideal definition of a "little thing" that's worth doing. And we in Embers Children welcome it very much. Thank you again. Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 514	Posted - 2014.02.20 15:46:00 - [138] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Infinity Ziona wrote: Why waste time and effort on this when it's extremely easy to drop a depot and refit a couple of hull rappers... There's a lot of drone stuff that needs work in regards to drones. This doesn't take a lot of work. It's a small change that improves the game in a small way for a small amount of effort. Pretty much the ideal definition of a "little thing" that's worth doing. kind of like halfing the command bonus on gang links. that's even less effort.
Justin Cody AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 105	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:52:00 - [139] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Infinity Ziona wrote: Why waste time and effort on this when it's extremely easy to drop a depot and refit a couple of hull rappers... There's a lot of drone stuff that needs work in regards to drones. This doesn't take a lot of work. It's a small change that improves the game in a small way for a small amount of effort. Pretty much the ideal definition of a "little thing" that's worth doing. Next up drones that fly your ship for you! #littlethings2.0
Alundil Sky Fighters 407	Posted - 2014.02.20 23:34:00 - [140] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? No other drone type is capable of acting on the owner of said drones. I don't foresee this happening ever. It would have some very serious negative ramifications on numerous combat types/roles/fittings (think small gangs where active armor is already pretty good again - finally). NB4 triple-rep Myrms/Ishtars + medium repair drones (etc etc etc) as an example (easily close to 1000ehp/s repped if you include medium armor drones). Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival

Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.02.21 06:33:00 - [141] - Quote Alundil wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? No other drone type is capable of acting on the owner of said drones. I don't foresee this happening ever. It would have some very serious negative ramifications on numerous combat types/roles/fittings (think small gangs where active armor is already pretty good again - finally). NB4 triple-rep Myrms/Ishtars + medium repair drones (etc etc etc) as an example (easily close to 1000ehp/s repped if you include medium armor drones). But then you'd be lacking in the DPS department on your "Drone-Boat" now wouldn't you? So that happening goes right out of the window since it makes little sense to tank a little bit extra while reducing your DPS a lot. I'd say +1 to self-repping with drones.
Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 631	Posted - 2014.02.21 08:42:00 - [142] - Quote Merida DunBrogh wrote: Alundil wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? No other drone type is capable of acting on the owner of said drones. I don't foresee this happening ever. It would have some very serious negative ramifications on numerous combat types/roles/fittings (think small gangs where active armor is already pretty good again - finally). NB4 triple-rep Myrms/Ishtars + medium repair drones (etc etc etc) as an example (easily close to 1000ehp/s repped if you include medium armor drones). But then you'd be lacking in the DPS department on your "Drone-Boat" now wouldn't you? So that happening goes right out of the window since it makes little sense to tank a little bit extra while reducing your DPS a lot. I'd say +1 to self-repping with drones. If you did this, you'd also have to allow combat drones to engage the owners ship, which should create some hilarious team speak moments... Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
Arthur Aihaken Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 2933	Posted - 2014.02.21 11:06:00 - [143] - Quote Mournful Conciousness wrote: If you did this, you'd also have to allow combat drones to engage the owners ship, which should create some hilarious team speak moments... Death by drone...? (alternative to self-destruct) I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
The Jagji Ministry of War Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.02.21 12:17:00 - [144] - Quote When do we get Shield Regen Drones?
Mournful Conciousness Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate 634	Posted - 2014.02.21 12:48:00 - [145] - Quote The Jagji wrote: When do we get Shield Regen Drones? when you next log on to eve Embers Children is recruiting carefully selected pilots who like wormholes, green killboards and the sweet taste of tears. You can convo me in game or join the chat "TOHA Lounge".
The Jagji Ministry of War Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:29:00 - [146] - Quote Mournful Conciousness wrote: The Jagji wrote: When do we get Shield Regen Drones? when you next log on to eve I don't log on to EVE. I log out of Real World Sim.
Callduron Boob Heads Black Legion. 608	Posted - 2014.02.22 13:03:00 - [147] - Quote Feels like there's now a niche for a drone destroyer bonused for logistics. You could carry a flight of each rep type in a 25m3/75m3 bay. You could keep the Algos and Dragoon role bonus to drone navigation. You could fit up the ship with drone boosting mods, maybe even a logi version of the Drone Damage Amp as a new low slot module. Maybe also an ewar drone destroyer with bonuses to TD and SW drones etc. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Melek D'Ivri Propst Mining Services 30	Posted - 2014.02.22 22:19:00 - [148] - Quote I like it. +1 Real men hull tank. Each other.
Xe'Cara'eos A Big Enough Lever 76	Posted - 2014.02.23 12:34:00 - [149] - Quote is there an estimated time on these yet?
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 297	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:07:00 - [150] - Quote I assume you will not be able to use these to repair the ship that actually launches the drones.

Otturo Arckh Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:35:00 - [151] - Quote Taul Masok wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: 7o everyone. Let us know what you think! Thanks -Fozzie One of us, one of us. 7o They probably have alts in BNI xD In regards to the hull repair drones, they know that real men hull tank 7o
Alundil Sky Fighters 410	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:57:00 - [152] - Quote Merida DunBrogh wrote: Alundil wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: Will I be able to repair myself with my own drones someday? No other drone type is capable of acting on the owner of said drones. I don't foresee this happening ever. It would have some very serious negative ramifications on numerous combat types/roles/fittings (think small gangs where active armor is already pretty good again - finally). NB4 triple-rep Myrms/Ishtars + medium repair drones (etc etc etc) as an example (easily close to 1000ehp/s repped if you include medium armor drones). But then you'd be lacking in the DPS department on your "Drone-Boat" now wouldn't you? So that happening goes right out of the window since it makes little sense to tank a little bit extra while reducing your DPS a lot. I'd say +1 to self-repping with drones. Nope, bad balance changes/suggestions (in this case) make for some interesting possibilities such as what I mentioned above. But for your edification before implants ~200dps within scram/webx2 range > 950 ehp/s rep relatively safe from neuts Would chew through frigs, assfrigs, dessies and possibly cruisers (slower) with ease. In fact, if this were possible I'd lol-about through LS and 00 nightly picking fights because it would be ridiculously funny. So in short (even though I'd love it if possible), No. Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9362	Posted - 2014.02.26 22:43:00 - [153] - Quote Xe'Cara'eos wrote: is there an estimated time on these yet? All I can tell you right now is that they will be coming in Rubicon 1.3. More details coming soon. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Yazzinra Scorpion Ventures Rim Worlds Protectorate 27	Posted - 2014.02.27 05:24:00 - [154] - Quote while your adding these drones, can you make sure they all continue to "engage" their target? Unlike certain webber drones you recently added which tend to give up on life after catching their target.
Xe'Cara'eos A Big Enough Lever 79	Posted - 2014.02.28 13:48:00 - [155] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Xe'Cara'eos wrote: is there an estimated time on these yet? All I can tell you right now is that they will be coming in Rubicon 1.3. More details coming soon. many thanks fozzie!
Jed Clampett The Order Of Viision Brothers of Apocrypha. 17	Posted - 2014.03.05 09:06:00 - [156] - Quote Chitsa Jason wrote: Finally no need for wormhole dwellers to refit mods to rep structure damage :) Heh - now if only you didn't need to get close to an online ship array to swap drones in the cargo bay to the drone bay. As long as you got to do that its still as much hassle as swapping in a hull repair module. Overall when I think about it swapping modules will remain my first choice for wh structure repair on ships. Drones help with POS guns though by giving you options to keep fighting at some level while repairing or able to immediately duck back under POS shields. Though I understand CCP is considering adding a combat cooldown counter to keep you from exploiting POS shields to evade PVP (new thinking that POS shields are only supposed to protect POS modules and ships in the process of launching/boarding from hangars). That would make drone repair less desirable. Hmmm...drones can't repair your own ship but can they repair an unpiloted ship? For those times when you are the only one around that would be nice. Of course drones are useless under the POS shields. So really hull repair drones only help repair buddies and reduce your available DPS during use. And for repairing your own ship they are useless... unless they work on unpiloted ships and you willing to do something awkward and dangerous outside the POS shield involving your damaged and unpiloted ship.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4404	Posted - 2014.03.07 03:52:00 - [157] - Quote very nice! Sure wish we could use repair drones on ourselves though. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Awakened. 1399	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:05:00 - [158] - Quote CCP Fozzie, have you or are you considering allowing players to assign logi drones to their own ships? +1

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 9439	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:11:00 - [159] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: CCP Fozzie, have you or are you considering allowing players to assign logi drones to their own ships? I won't rule it out, but we have no firm plans to allow such functionality that at this time. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Maximus Andendare Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 851	Posted - 2014.03.07 15:33:00 - [160] - Quote Fozzie, these must be Minmatar drone models! The Minmatar have an intimate familiarity with fiddling with hull bits to make their ships even work! This travesty must be corrected! Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<

Rek Seven Probe Patrol Awakened. 1400	Posted - 2014.03.07 16:17:00 - [161] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Rek Seven wrote: CCP Fozzie, have you or are you considering allowing players to assign logi drones to their own ships? I won't rule it out, but we have no firm plans to allow such functionality that at this time. Thanks for the reply. I feel it would be fairly well balanced because with most ships, you would have to make a choice between dps, e-war and logi drones. It would also benefit small gangs/corps as they wouldn't have to bring dedicated logistics ships... I'll keep my fingers crossed for this future fix. The hull drones are nice but they probably work far too slow to make them practical during combat. I may have asked this earlier but i'll ask again:- How do you feel about adding hull rep drone bays to all logi ships and at the same time, giving logi ships a bonus to hull rep drones? +1
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 664	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:13:00 - [162] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Rek Seven wrote: CCP Fozzie, have you or are you considering allowing players to assign logi drones to their own ships? I won't rule it out, but we have no firm plans to allow such functionality that at this time. you would that would have been the first thing they would of thought of when making logi drones... Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4405	Posted - 2014.03.07 17:42:00 - [163] - Quote Maximus Andendare wrote: Fozzie, these must be Minmatar drone models! The Minmatar have an intimate familiarity with fiddling with hull bits to make their ships even work! This travesty must be corrected! Ah but who are the truly manly-man hull tankers? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jessica Danikov Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension 306	Posted - 2014.03.08 19:36:00 - [164] - Quote "Drone Repair Augmentor" rig... are these actually a thing? Does anyone actually use them?
Johann Rascali Crunchy Crunchy The Obsidian Front 94	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:47:00 - [165] - Quote Maximus Andendare wrote: Fozzie, these must be Minmatar drone models! The Minmatar have an intimate familiarity with fiddling with hull bits to make their ships even work! This travesty must be corrected! Technically, the armor bots should be Amarr and the hull bots Gallente; the Gallente were originally hull tankers after all, hence their generally more even mid and lowslot layout and large pool of hull hitpoints. Welcome to our universe where cooldown timers are a mystery, the PLEX menu is just an advertisement, shrapnel bombs deal explosive force, concussion bombs are somehow kinetically penetrative, and who left all these prototype Inferno modules all over the place?
Rob Crowley State War Academy 278	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:25:00 - [166] - Quote I think it would be appropriate for Scythe and Exequror to apply their generic logi drone bonus to those hull rep drones which they don't do at the moment. Any plans on changing this?
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 408	Posted - 2014.03.11 03:08:00 - [167] - Quote Jessica Danikov wrote: "Drone Repair Augmentor" rig... are these actually a thing? Does anyone actually use them? lol .. yes and they chew 10% CPU and no I do not think anyone actually uses them
Liafcipe9000 Critically Preposterous 18229	Posted - 2014.03.12 09:15:00 - [168] - Quote Altrue wrote: Another idea: Give shield and armor logistics cruisers (T1 and T2) a bonus to hull repair drones! (And remote hull repair while we are at it?) 7o very much this. Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase I like to gank it, gank it!
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore 1085	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:43:00 - [169] - Quote I still think the hull rep drones should be Minmatar. Gallente may have been the hull tankers in the past, but Minmatar are it today. Gallente might have come up with hull repair drones back in YC108 or something, but they didn't. If hull repair drones were to hit the markets in YC114, one would have to assume they be from the Minmatar. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!!
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2266	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:49:00 - [170] - Quote Reaver Glitterstim wrote: I still think the hull rep drones should be Minmatar. Gallente may have been the hull tankers in the past, but Minmatar are it today. Gallente might have come up with hull repair drones back in YC108 or something, but they didn't. If hull repair drones were to hit the markets in YC114, one would have to assume they be from the Minmatar. All drones are made by the CreoDron Corporation so.... Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement



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