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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein Ah, so first, your gonna sell shares, then if G/Iron want it, not fight for it, but give it to them.
Good plan.
Someone else who clearly can't read.
They are going to wait to see what happens first, hence they have not announced details of the shares etc, or the figures involved. This seems quite deliberate.
I guess they want to speak with IRON/G/TRUST first and see how the land lies. ISS are many things, but they are not stupid, they will be speaking to these alliances about how they want to go forward.
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:33:00 -
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AT VERY LONG LAST
i can shoot the ass of ALL ISS and their STUPID attempts to bring empire carebear ****e to 0.0.
WE DONT WANT U - - and NOW - u have given us the reason to take u out in all 0.0 areas
I look forward to drinking a tequila docked in the various outposts up north. - OO - yes - they wont be ISS outposts either )))
BTW - to ALL shareholders of ISS - - SELL UP NOW - - in time u wont have any assets in 0.0. -
U have got to big for ur boots ISS - and many will assist u down several pegs - ur neutrality has always been easily questioned. - u deploy POS to take sov under the guard of an invading force - u are their minions.
Now lets see u dance
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:33:00 -
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surely you see the difference in managing an outpost that was conquered vs one that you built yourself. A neutral entity should not take part in any conflict.
I strongly urge you not to do this. I dont want to share my targets with anyone else!
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
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Wayn Dotha
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:36:00 -
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I think BoB just acted very stupidly. They wanted to destroy the cap-shipyard... so why didn't they destroy the cap-shipyard and nothing else? Coming with some hundred ships to destroy the shipyard would have spoken a very clear language. And if TRUST would build it again, the same thing would happen as it would happen if TRUST reclaims the territory. And beeing generous isn't that bad. Even after destroying the POSes, they could have said "TRUST, we give you the claim and the OP back, but never ever build a cap shipyard again there or we will be back". This solution is only VERY ****** up. TRUST is ****ed off (5% is NOTHING for your own OP and the lost POSes), everybody thinks ISS belongs to BoB (maybe they want to declare this...why didn't they just say it, if they would?) and if TRUST claims the territory again, BoB has the same problem as before, but they can't put the losts a level higher (TRUST lost everything) without settling permanently in EC-P8R.
You wanna know what I think that happens? I think TRUST WILL claim the territory back and I think BoB won't do anything against it, till they build up a new capital shipyard.
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:37:00 -
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looks like someone painted a bullseye on ISS's butt.
now why did they bend over and let them paint it.
divide and conquer 4tw i suppose 
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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:37:00 -
[156]
Originally by: DANGEROUS AT VERY LONG LAST
i can shoot the ass of ALL ISS and their STUPID attempts to bring empire carebear ****e to 0.0.
WE DONT WANT U - - and NOW - u have given us the reason to take u out in all 0.0 areas
I look forward to drinking a tequila docked in the various outposts up north. - OO - yes - they wont be ISS outposts either )))
BTW - to ALL shareholders of ISS - - SELL UP NOW - - in time u wont have any assets in 0.0. -
U have got to big for ur boots ISS - and many will assist u down several pegs - ur neutrality has always been easily questioned. - u deploy POS to take sov under the guard of an invading force - u are their minions.
Now lets see u dance
Er, ISS just got you your outpost back, and have said TRUST can have it, and you want to shoot them?
Perhaps you might want to actually engage your brain before posting next time.
You'll find your real PVP targets down south.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:39:00 -
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As there already is an ISS outpost in Pure Blind. Can we have a vote for this takeover? I think this decision is important enough for that tbh. ---
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Jon Ominor
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:40:00 -
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Does this mean I can stop worrying about gangs of ASCN/5 roaming around the two Pure Blind entrances pirating under the guise of some kind of alliance conflict? I mean, I'm sure ATUK only showed up in an asteroid belt in a completely out-of-the-way system nearby and podkilled people from a tiny neutral corp because it was somehow necessary for their impending operation to take over EC-P8R.
Well, I guess I can stop worrying about ASCN and its allies. But since anything having to do with ISS is like an open invitation to pirate and grief, I can worry about that now.
Originally by: DANGEROUS AT VERY LONG LAST
i can shoot the ass of ALL ISS and their STUPID attempts to bring empire carebear ****e to 0.0.
WE DONT WANT U - - and NOW - u have given us the reason to take u out in all 0.0 areas
I look forward to drinking a tequila docked in the various outposts up north. - OO - yes - they wont be ISS outposts either )))
BTW - to ALL shareholders of ISS - - SELL UP NOW - - in time u wont have any assets in 0.0. -
U have got to big for ur boots ISS - and many will assist u down several pegs - ur neutrality has always been easily questioned. - u deploy POS to take sov under the guard of an invading force - u are their minions.
Now lets see u dance
This is the dumbest post I've ever read, in so many ways.
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Krackerjack
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Malken looks like someone painted a bullseye on ISS's butt.
now why did they bend over and let them paint it.
divide and conquer 4tw i suppose 
Trouble is, ISS are so spread out across EVE its impossible to hurt them.
Why do you think their empire war decs never last more than a week or two? Because its actually not very profitable shooting at 1 or 2 haulers with ice products, and with the whole alliance spread across the map, they are difficult to find in large numbers.
And if someone did seige one of their outposts, they'd just call in MC along with every other merc corp in EVE.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Krackerjack
Originally by: Malken looks like someone painted a bullseye on ISS's butt.
now why did they bend over and let them paint it.
divide and conquer 4tw i suppose 
Trouble is, ISS are so spread out across EVE its impossible to hurt them.
Why do you think their empire war decs never last more than a week or two? Because its actually not very profitable shooting at 1 or 2 haulers with ice products, and with the whole alliance spread across the map, they are difficult to find in large numbers.
And if someone did seige one of their outposts, they'd just call in MC along with every other merc corp in EVE.
Once system is locked down, there is nothing really those merc corps can do. ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise. |

Krackerjack
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Krackerjack on 07/04/2006 14:47:42
Originally by: Audrea
Once system is locked down, there is nothing really those merc corps can do.
Yeah, if you have 600 people maybe. And each of them takes a week off work
Who is going to bother doing that against an ISS trading outpost? People need to get real.
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:56:00 -
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brain is engaged - iss are back peddaling like mad cos they realise they have shown their true colors. infact - this reminds of a post written by BoB
HIDDEN IN FULL VIEW it was titled - or something like that.
claiming trust were a part of G. load of rubbish that was. - yes G were customers - as many others were.
Butmaybe the idea was so easy for bob to think of cos they themselves have some back door arrangement with ISS --
picture it now - sir molle sitting there in ts with an ISS representative - - hmm - maybe it would go like this
Sir molle> WE MUST keep up the public impression that BoB and ISS are hostile. ISS> indeed, that is important the generla populus must never know of our secret relationship. Sir Molle> Agreed, u are our pets and no one must find out. i am very possessive over who i pimp and u are one of my specials. ISS> o thank u master molle - let us service u more. Sir Molle> later my sweet one - first we conclude our business. ISS> i will keep the K-Y warm master so it doesnt feel to cold........... Sir Molle> Good lad, to business -- to keep up the pretence of our hostility we will gank some of ur noobs occasionally, clearly this is just so we can be seen to shoot at u. ISS> that is acceptable master - after all - we are but imbeciles compared to ur greatness. Sir Molle> indeed u are. - Now here is whats going to happen, as we cant defeat the might og G and tehir associates on our own we have called all of our other pimpable friends such as 5 and ASCN to commit to a highly cordinted attack on the TRUST station In EC - we are sure that TRUST are building G a fearsome capital fleet there. ISS> this cannot be master. Only u can dominate the empire. Sir Molle> it is hard to comprehend my friend that anyone could contemplate aggression towards our #cough# peaceful #cough# domination of the universe but some people have a deep hatred for us and we just dont understan why my pet. ISS> ur words are as sweet as honey master. Sir Molle> So - we will take EC and then u my little gimp faced freind can manage it in the name of neutrality. ISS> o master u are so kind, we can bring peace to teh most deadly system in all of eve - cos when we say NO ONE SHOOT IN OUR SYSTEM - THEY ALWAYS obey o master. - and yes yes - i have another idea if u will allow me to offer it to ur huge intelligence master? Sir Molle> My young friend do not consider me SO arrogant taht i cannot see at least SOME intelligence in other people. - - - p ISS> thank u master, well we can creat a huge income from sellng ISS shares in this outpost. and we are onto a HUGE winner. ALL that capital gained for almost no expenditure, and and and - o goodness master - it will help us become even richer, as surely the outpost will be taken back and we will be sitting on all this isk - o master ur SO clever. Sir Molle> i had indeed been considering such an idea and i think we will implement it. ISS> thank u master - we will deploy POS under ur guard as soon as ec is safe as we are all carebears and have little understanding of what a gun is. Sir molle> Indeed u dont - now - where is that k-y ISS> here sir - its here - - let me open it and bend over for u Sir Molle> OMFG i am SO UBER
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:59:00 -
[163]
This thread is just too funny 
Black Nova Corp
Bob(TM) Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain |

SinBin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:02:00 -
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Is this alt city or people talking about brains wile being incapable of ticking the show corp info ticky box. _______________________________________
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David Godfrey
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:02:00 -
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hmmmmm have fun with that  ----------- They may take our lives but they will never take our freedom!
OMFG What the hell !?!?! Fate ^^ |

Flipped
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS brain is engaged ... blah blah
Engaging it didn't help you at all 
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Flipped
Originally by: DANGEROUS brain is engaged ... blah blah
Engaging it didn't help you at all 
I guess you cant grow ya nads or there block ya little man fitting in anythnig, you poor thing. _______________________________________
Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks |

Audrea
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:08:00 -
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LOL @ post number 181!! reminded me somewhat of Star Trek:DS9, where the Vorta served their gods, the Founders at all things 
sometimes eve forums are better than comedy in cinema  ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise. |

DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:09:00 -
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nothing wrong with a bit of humour -p
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal This thread is just too funny 
o/
and yeah its just hilarious  --------------------------------
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Krackerjack
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:15:00 -
[171]
Originally by: SinBin Is this alt city or people talking about brains wile being incapable of ticking the show corp info ticky box.
Is this Dead Alliance city or are people talking crap about going on a POS war when they just said they would do exactly the opposite?
BOB took your little outpost, ISS got it back for you, they say TRUST can have it, and you're still not happy?
Get a grip.
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Troubadour
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:16:00 -
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why woudl anyone dock and use the factories in your outpost in EC- when they could just use 1 of 5 station right next door in torrinos. Marginis and borealis were successful because they were in areas that needed a station and factories. This is not one of those areas.
Bad move ISS. You are just going to end up dumping tons of money into defending the thing only to find out that people aren't using it over the tons of stations right next door and just lose it in the end.
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Mr Trouble
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:20:00 -
[173]
Well they don't seem too bothered about that - since they are saying Trust can walk in and take it if they want.
Trouble with this outpost is no-one wants it. ISS are doing everyone a favour by offering to manage it.
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Lost Dragon
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS brain is engaged - iss are back peddaling like mad cos they realise they have shown their true colors. infact - this reminds of a post written by BoB
HIDDEN IN FULL VIEW it was titled - or something like that.
claiming trust were a part of G. load of rubbish that was. - yes G were customers - as many others were.
Butmaybe the idea was so easy for bob to think of cos they themselves have some back door arrangement with ISS --
picture it now - sir molle sitting there in ts with an ISS representative - - hmm - maybe it would go like this
Sir molle> WE MUST keep up the public impression that BoB and ISS are hostile. ISS> indeed, that is important the generla populus must never know of our secret relationship. Sir Molle> Agreed, u are our pets and no one must find out. i am very possessive over who i pimp and u are one of my specials. ISS> o thank u master molle - let us service u more. Sir Molle> later my sweet one - first we conclude our business. ISS> i will keep the K-Y warm master so it doesnt feel to cold........... Sir Molle> Good lad, to business -- to keep up the pretence of our hostility we will gank some of ur noobs occasionally, clearly this is just so we can be seen to shoot at u. ISS> that is acceptable master - after all - we are but imbeciles compared to ur greatness. Sir Molle> indeed u are. - Now here is whats going to happen, as we cant defeat the might og G and tehir associates on our own we have called all of our other pimpable friends such as 5 and ASCN to commit to a highly cordinted attack on the TRUST station In EC - we are sure that TRUST are building G a fearsome capital fleet there. ISS> this cannot be master. Only u can dominate the empire. Sir Molle> it is hard to comprehend my friend that anyone could contemplate aggression towards our #cough# peaceful #cough# domination of the universe but some people have a deep hatred for us and we just dont understan why my pet. ISS> ur words are as sweet as honey master. Sir Molle> So - we will take EC and then u my little gimp faced freind can manage it in the name of neutrality. ISS> o master u are so kind, we can bring peace to teh most deadly system in all of eve - cos when we say NO ONE SHOOT IN OUR SYSTEM - THEY ALWAYS obey o master. - and yes yes - i have another idea if u will allow me to offer it to ur huge intelligence master? Sir Molle> My young friend do not consider me SO arrogant taht i cannot see at least SOME intelligence in other people. - - - p ISS> thank u master, well we can creat a huge income from sellng ISS shares in this outpost. and we are onto a HUGE winner. ALL that capital gained for almost no expenditure, and and and - o goodness master - it will help us become even richer, as surely the outpost will be taken back and we will be sitting on all this isk - o master ur SO clever. Sir Molle> i had indeed been considering such an idea and i think we will implement it. ISS> thank u master - we will deploy POS under ur guard as soon as ec is safe as we are all carebears and have little understanding of what a gun is. Sir molle> Indeed u dont - now - where is that k-y ISS> here sir - its here - - let me open it and bend over for u Sir Molle> OMFG i am SO UBER
LMAO
YAMMAS!!!
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kay Han on 07/04/2006 15:29:42 Finally i¦m allowed to shoot ISS? \ /
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Shmmm...
Need clarification on this. ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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O Thief
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:32:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Kay Han Edited by: Kay Han on 07/04/2006 15:29:42 Finally i¦m allowed to shoot ISS? \ /
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Shmmm...
Need clarification on this.
Yeah, they just got your outpost back, and are willing to let TRUST have it... so clearly it makes sense to target them instead of BoB 
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Heikki
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:34:00 -
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I don't really understand why people are claming ISS lost neutrality: they have quite well presented their motivations for this move, and why they believe it is within scope of their mission statement.
Of course, it will provide excuse for those who want to shoot ISS...but anyone who needs an excuse to do something is weak already.
- So, I reckon IRON/G never claimed officially ownership for the station; now ISS is even offering it to them, under nominal resistance
- Or anyone else who wants the station can go and grab it 'easily'
- BOB don't seem to get any extra profit from this
- Pirates might get more 'neutral' traffic to hunt in ECC
So...why is anyone but TRUST (who is neutral and insignificant anyway) is complaining?
-Lasse
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Count TaSessine The coalition of alliances, including BoB, F-E, 5, ASCN, who recently seized control of the station in EC-P8R, have asked ISS to take over and manage the station as a public outpost.
After careful deliberation, ISS have accepted the proposal as a vote of confidence and a welcome confirmation that civilian development of 0.0 space is far from incompatible with the goals and ambitions of above mentioned alliances.
With this gesture, they signal that civilian cohabitation in 0.0 space is possible and desired under the right circumstances.
The reason for our acceptance is closely linked with our vision of opening up 0.0 space to as many non-alliance affiliated pilots as possible.
We believe Pure Blind is a perfect sandbox for pilots with little or no 0.0 experience. It is more attractive than empire space, but generally speaking not really valuable enough for alliances to fight over and claim.
With this transition, we hope the region will return to it's previous state of affairs. This action will basically take the station out of the conflict that is raging in the region and allow traffic to flow through EC-P8R once again.
The coalition have clearly stated that the only other alternative to this scenario is that they take control of the station themselves - this, we feel, is not beneficial to the stability and long term interests of the inhabitants of this region.
The outpost will ultimatively benefit far more people under ISS management, than would be the case with a territorial faction controlling it.
The terms of the takeover are as follows:
- The outpost will be called ISS Cassini, named after a famous Italian astronomer from Earth.
- Cassini will become an ISS station and the rules applying to Marginis and Borealis (see www.eve-iss.com for details of our rules of engagement), also apply to this one.
- As is the case with all ISS stations, all pod pilots in Eve can dock at the station and use its facilities.
- The no-docking list from our other outposts will be applied with immediate effect in Cassini. This means that BoB, among others, will not have docking rights to the station due to their repeated violations of our system wide no-fire zones in the other ISS outpost systems.
- In line with its established business practices ISS will transfer ownership of the station as shares to the Eve community in a public share auction. Details of this public offering of shares will be disclosed shortly when we have had time to create a business plan.
ISS will keep 10% of the shares as management fee.
Trust will get 5% shares. Building an outpost is a monumental achievement in both time and ISK which we recognize.
The isk generated by these share sales will pay for the necessary sovereignty controlling starbases (the system has 62 moons), structures, fuel reserves, in-house security arrangements and a number of external mercenary retainers.
The status of previous TRUST jumpclone contracts is being investigated. The status of current office rents is pending assessment of the situation.
Awesome.
ISS is now KOS for me. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:45:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 07/04/2006 15:46:03 Errr, can we get a link on where ISS gave it back to TRUST?
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh I bet the ISS navy is quaking in its boots.
Eh.
In other news, how do I pronounce that mess of a name? ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:45:00 -
[180]
I bet the ISS navy is quaking in its boots. ....
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