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j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:03:00 - [61] "I want the outpost claimed by Trust, as they built it." Well obviously IRON wants the outpost back in hands of the G alts... ;s * runs like heck before another page of posts is added to the thread... like, most fun forum friday ever :o
Emno	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:05:00 - [62] Originally by: j0sephine "I want the outpost claimed by Trust, as they built it." Well obviously IRON wants the outpost back in hands of the G alts... ;s * runs like heck before another page of posts is added to the thread... like, most fun forum friday ever :o
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:05:00 - [63] Originally by: j0sephine "I want the outpost claimed by Trust, as they built it." Well obviously IRON wants the outpost back in hands of the G alts... ;s * runs like heck before another page of posts is added to the thread... like, most fun forum friday ever :o Lol . Ill informed noobs!
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:08:00 - [64] Originally by: Emno Originally by: Admiral IceBlock ffs guys, stop the whining. iss got an offer to hold the outpost, bob has no interests in holding the outpost themselves, they only wanted to stop trust and their capital ship programs i guess. so why not give it to iss if you are not going to use the outpost anyway? iss is still neutral, infact, they are doing most people a favour by taking the outpost under their flag, as people will still be able to dock and do their thing in ec-p8r, and that is something i would not be able to do with bob holding the outpost. iss do nothing to get it 10% shares trust build it 5% shares notice anything wrong here Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Gungankllr	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:09:00 - [65] I think in the grand scheme of things, it's a good idea to turn the outpost over to ISS. None of the forces that recently blockaded EC- have a vested interest in the system, I know I don't. Ascendant Frontier lives in Feythabolis, it's our home and we have no plans to expand, especially that far across the map. We've brought small amounts of forces to Pure Blind and the regions north for PVP, but other than that we aren't going to commit a force to hold a system that we really have no interest in (See ASCN Charter). BoB doesn't want to manage it either, as evidenced by their turning it over to ISS. Everyone saying that ISS are BoB Lapdogs, or are being influenced by ASCN, it's a little stupid. Neither of us are allowed to dock there, and we aren't getting any shares unless we buy them. We don't get a bloody thing out of it, in other words. So please read the ISS Press Release once or twice before you display your High School Creative Writing skills again.
grizouh	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:09:00 - [66] a clever move, bob it doesn¦t matter in which direction this will end, it will somehow always redound to your advantage (even if it only makes one side looking like a fool), very smart... like this one more than step 4 <g>
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:09:00 - [67] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Emno Originally by: Admiral IceBlock ffs guys, stop the whining. iss got an offer to hold the outpost, bob has no interests in holding the outpost themselves, they only wanted to stop trust and their capital ship programs i guess. so why not give it to iss if you are not going to use the outpost anyway? iss is still neutral, infact, they are doing most people a favour by taking the outpost under their flag, as people will still be able to dock and do their thing in ec-p8r, and that is something i would not be able to do with bob holding the outpost. iss do nothing to get it 10% shares trust build it 5% shares notice anything wrong here Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? Wait, so who was it dictated by? I thought you were neuttral?
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:10:00 - [68] Quote: Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? and you had no choice but to accept right? $_$
Ginuwin	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:14:00 - [69] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Quote: Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? and you had no choice but to accept right? $_$ Tends to be common practise when you want to conclude a deal to accept the terms offered.
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:15:00 - [70] It's a shame such a good alliance has to die like this. I'll be more then happy to loot your T2 BPO's though .

HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:17:00 - [71] I mostly see G/IRON whining, bit bitter you couldn't stop the loss of the outpost ____________ HC MasiEEE
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:19:00 - [72] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 07/04/2006 12:16:54 It's a shame such a good alliance has to die like this. I'll be more then happy to loot your T2 BPO's though . Oh, I'm glad I sold all my ISS shares aswell, I can only see them go downhill from now on. I ain't got no T2 BPOs. Tell you what, lend me one, and I'll let you loot it. Cap Recharger II or Rook would do nicely, thanks. -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Emno	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:19:00 - [73] oh and as ascn kill neutrals in ec will they not be able to dock?
Eskiban Vlasic	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:21:00 - [74] So how does ISS expect to handle the incessant gatecamps in this now "neutral" system? Or even camps a few hops up the pipe? You plan on patrolling EWOK as well? I'm not sure how you think this outpost will foster any trade whatsoever when torrinos is one hop away. - Vlasic of TW Fame The Suicidal Newb F.R.E.E. Explorer
Thalera Saldana	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:22:00 - [75] at the Imperial Republic of Paranoia posts in this thread
Butter Dog	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:24:00 - [76] If G/TRUST really want the outpost back, it won't take any real effort. Some large towers would do it. We're not going to shoot at anyone. We presented an option, but if they would prefer claiming it back, with the associated risks, then we will not be standing in the way. ------------------ The ISS Navy is recruiting. See this thread for further details. www.eve-iss.com
Bloofunky	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:24:00 - [77] All you people banging ISS over this... how about you give YOUR opinion on what should have happened? The force that took EC had 1 goal - to stop the cap' ship production. Those ships would have gone to the enemies of the attackers in the long wrong.. so it was a smart move by ASCN/BOB/others to take the outpost and shut down operations. Now they are willing to back out and move along, and give EC back to public hands. Who else should take it? G/IRON/TRUST? they have all been working together, if the outpost goes back to them they will be a direct threat to BOB and Co once again, and you would see EC taken over once more. ISS took a politcal step help create a middleground that everyone can atleast LIVE with. I say hats off to BoB/ASCN for kicking some arse, hats off to G/others for fighting as much as you could. And a pat on the back to ISS for risking your neck for what your charters clearly state. PUBLIC TRAVEL IN 0.0 SPACE.
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:24:00 - [78] Originally by: Ginuwin Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Quote: Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? and you had no choice but to accept right? $_$ Tends to be common practise when you want to conclude a deal to accept the terms offered. yes but they cant expect peoples opinions of them to stay the same. its obviously wrong to take something that doesnt belong to you even if it is not taken by you yourself. i dont see how iss can justify it like they are trying to and expecting there shareholders and the previous owners to see them as neutral.
sableye	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:25:00 - [79] I don't normally like to comment on these forums but ISS is no longer a neutral entity in my eyes, not like that makes much differnce but it means I won'nt feel bad for you when someone comes and takes your stations, I'd be fairly concerned if I was an investor in that pure blind station right about now. ORC Outrage Recruiting You Today.
Laythun	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:25:00 - [80] Good news. --------------------------------------------- If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]

D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:27:00 - [81] Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 07/04/2006 12:28:47 Originally by: Bloofunky Edited by: Bloofunky on 07/04/2006 12:25:53 All you people banging ISS over this... how about you give YOUR opinion on what should have happened? The force that took EC had 1 goal - to stop the cap' ship production. Those ships would have gone to the enemies of the attackers in the long run.. so it was a smart move by ASCN/BOB/others to take the outpost and shut down operations. Now they are willing to back out and move along, and give EC back to public hands. Who else should take it? G/IRON/TRUST? they have all been working together, if the outpost goes back to them they will be a direct threat to BOB and Co once again, and you would see EC taken over once more. ISS took a politcal step help create a middleground that everyone can atleast LIVE with. I say hats off to BoB/ASCN for kicking some arse, hats off to G/others for fighting as much as you could. And a pat on the back to ISS for risking your neck for what your charters clearly state. PUBLIC TRAVEL IN 0.0 SPACE. i say post with your main. and G/IRON/TRUST should take it back if bob dont want them to be there then they should have to travel back down and try to hold the region for aslong as it takes whatever alliances to cave in and give up. i doubt bob would stay there indefinetly without getting bored and moving on and maybe ISS should have asked there shareholders first before they risk becomming a target of some alliances
Sitri	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:27:00 - [82] Edited by: Sitri on 07/04/2006 12:28:12 BoB don't have the resources to guard the outpost nor do they want to. Therefore they have decided to hand it over to ISS. This way they don't look stupid for spending a week taking over a system only to hand it back. ISS, if you don't accept, TRUST will get the station back. BoB DO NOT want to spend every week camping a industrial system. It makes them look like loser n00bs. Don't accept and fall for BoB's plan! edit - since this affects ALL your investors in other outposts, let them vote on this?
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:27:00 - [83] This has to rank one of my top 10 most favourite threads ever.
sidthesexist	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:28:00 - [84] Originally by: Darko1107 This has to rank one of my top 10 most favourite threads ever. I agree with you. ________ ReViVal According to Freud, thinking the world revolves around you is a regression to childhood, when your world actually did revolve around you.-Wrangler
Audrea	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:28:00 - [85] Too bad EVE still deosnt have stock exchange implemented, I would love to watch how the ISS shares are loosing value in sharp rate after this announcement I am so glad I decided not to buy Marginis shares at a time, and then Borealis either ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise.
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:29:00 - [86] Edited by: Zzazzt on 07/04/2006 12:29:56 Originally by: Count TaSessine - Cassini will become an ISS station and the rules applying to Marginis and Borealis (see www.eve-iss.com for details of our rules of engagement), also apply to this one. - As is the case with all ISS stations, all pod pilots in Eve can dock at the station and use its facilities. - The no-docking list from our other outposts will be applied with immediate effect in Cassini. This means that BoB, among others, will not have docking rights to the station due to their repeated violations of our system wide no-fire zones in the other ISS outpost systems. You might wanna have a think about the system-wide bit. I can understand applying your no-dock policy from your other stations to this one, and if you really think you can make EC-P a DMZ, then good luck to you... Otherwise, I think you should exempt EC-P from your system-wide rule, as you'll swiftly run out of customers ____________________________________________
Doragee	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Butter Dog We presented an option, but if they would prefer claiming it back, with the associated risks, then we will not be standing in the way. You didn't 'presented' anything...you've done already (anchoring POSs, claiming)...that's a small, but nevertheless important difference.
SinBin	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:40:00 - [88] OW that BoB are a narsty lot, killing poor ISS with just an offer. Thats gotta be the most cost effective kill ever :) _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:40:00 - [89] So... one 'neutral' industrial/trade alliance gets replaced by another 'neutral' industrial/trade alliance?
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2006.04.07 12:42:00 - [90] Originally by: Butter Dog We run the outposts as not-for-profit ventures, actually the ISS make no money from them at all because all revenues are paid as dividends. Conveniently ignoring the fact that you're also major shareholders? And IMO, comments like this: Originally by: Butter Dog Have you considered that perhaps the terms of this were not dictated by us? really aren't helping your PR drive here



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