Nerfs like this are a direct attack by the null sec cartels against high sec.

So from the perspective of the cartel leadership, who stand to profit quite nicely from this, yeah, it is an improvement.

For everyone in high sec, it is yet another indication of the contempt and hatred null sec dev's have for the largest part of their subscription base.

And they're not nullsec devs. They're devs.

Never really got the whole "Goonspiracy" thing, on how goons somehow "control" CCP.

It's weird cognitive dissonance. On one hand, our local conspiracy buffs will tell us that goons have so much powers over CCP, because with a snap of the finger, Mittens can force all goons to quit Eve, which would cost CCP all their revenue....

Yet, on the other side, CCP should never ever make changes to highsec, because the vast majority of players live in highsec and changes that benefit null are worthless to most players etc.

I mean, which is it?

On one hand, our local conspiracy buffs will tell us that goons have so much powers over CCP, because with a snap of the finger, Mittens can force all goons to quit Eve, which would cost CCP all their revenue....

Of course the conspiracy buffs don't realize that if The Mittani actually told us to stop playing EVE, the majority of us would tell him to go **** himself.

Fortunately he's not going to.

No, nerfs like this are a change in the game by made by CCP.
It's not an attack against high-sec, any more than a nerf to moon goo was an attack against us (it wasn't).


Why shouldn't we (all of us in the "cartels", not just the leadership) profit from infrastructure that thousands of us had to fight for, and that our alliance had to spend significant resources developing?


That's pretty funny considering null sec players probably contribute more to your subscriber base, considering that these nerfs don't actually hurt you much if at all, considering some high sec players will probably stand to profit from this, and considering that game balance is important regardless of who benefits from changes intended to restore that balance.

The moon goo changes were not a nerf for null sec per se.

Never really got the whole "Goonspiracy" thing, on how goons somehow "control" CCP.

It's weird cognitive dissonance. On one hand, our local conspiracy buffs will tell us that goons have so much powers over CCP, because with a snap of the finger, Mittens can force all goons to quit Eve, which would cost CCP all their revenue....

Yet, on the other side, CCP should never ever make changes to highsec, because the vast majority of players live in highsec and changes that benefit null are worthless to most players etc.

I mean, which is it?

Tell you what.
How about we play a game.

You name dev's that were hired that played a high sec casual gamestyle, and I will name dev's that were handpicked from null sec cartels.

Let's see who makes a longer list.

And yes, when the CSM riddled with null sec cartel lobbyists gets together with the dev's that just came over from the same null sec cartels, they simply are deciding how quickly to crank up the heat on the frog. Now THAT is a delicate balance: how much they can screw high sec without causing a significant dip in sub's. Bottom line, high sec is in far far worse shape today than it was 3 or 4 years ago.

I can't believe I am actually trying to converse with a griefer from the new order. This is lunacy.

It's like claiming a business is prejudiced because they don't have any gingers on their staff. Either the gingers just didn't apply, or they weren't up to snuff. Occam's Razor, yeesh. Stop trying to grab smoke to justify your hatred of the real players.

Tell you what.
How about we play a game.

You name dev's that were hired that played a high sec casual gamestyle

And yes, when the CSM riddled with null sec cartel lobbyists

gets together with the dev's that just came over from the same null sec cartels

they simply are deciding how quickly to crank up the heat on the frog. Now THAT is a delicate balance: how much they can screw high sec without causing a significant dip in sub's.

Bottom line, high sec is in far far worse shape today than it was 3 or 4 years ago.

I like how nerf is called "significant improvements" in the article.

CCP is practically a government. At least they use the same methods of crowd control.

More proof that CCP devs only play eve on their 500m SP supertoons and haven't tried starting a new toon from scratch.

Can you think of any reason to invade goon space other than because its goons?

Tell you what.
How about we play a game.

You name dev's that were hired that played a high sec casual gamestyle, and I will name dev's that were handpicked from null sec cartels.

Let's see who makes a longer list.

And yes, when the CSM riddled with null sec cartel lobbyists gets together with the dev's that just came over from the same null sec cartels, they simply are deciding how quickly to crank up the heat on the frog. Now THAT is a delicate balance: how much they can screw high sec without causing a significant dip in sub's. Bottom line, high sec is in far far worse shape today than it was 3 or 4 years ago.

I can't believe I am actually trying to converse with a griefer from the new order. This is lunacy.

Best solution.

Blitz and ignore loot.

Churn more missions and trade LP for all those lovely Sisters Probes and Virtual Implants and let the loot rot.

You actually make more ISK.

Back on topic though, Devblog full of delicious changes. it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. I will say, though, I'm loving the idea of leveling all the batches at 100.

And yes, when the CSM riddled with null sec cartel lobbyists gets together with the dev's that just came over from the same null sec cartels, they simply are deciding how quickly to crank up the heat on the frog. Now THAT is a delicate balance: how much they can screw high sec without causing a significant dip in sub's. Bottom line, high sec is in far far worse shape today than it was 3 or 4 years ago.

Until then, I counter your assertion with this: your "nullsec cartel devs" come from a pool of people who are insanely devoted to EVE, hence apply for a position when one opens. The "casual highsec player", being casual, and highsec, has no devotion, so doesn't apply.

It's lovely how you can square the playerbase in such precise brackets:

- Hi sec player for you (and not just you) = a poor moron who should possibly die in a fire ASAP. No knowledge of the game, no passion he's just playing EvE by random chance, in between of WoW PvE sessions. He's also a nerd, 15 old and he'll become a red neck.

- Null sec: divinity incarnated with passion and vast knowledge of thegame. Tall, blonde, and blue eyed, bound to become an Hollywood personality, girls fall on their knees as he passes by.



Did I picture it well enough?


It never occurs to you that maybe the "random hi seccer noob-should-defintely-die-young" maybe is a 3 children father who actually got a life so he has to put those as top priority instead of showing "heroic devotion"?


Now, please return to your "CODE" and spew some more verdicts on macro-categories. It fits with the organization.

The pos module changes are the biggies for me. That is a huge buff to stationless dead end mining in highsec (and stationless mining in any sec). Above all else it means ore can be mined, warped to a pos, reprocced and compressed and shipped with a blockade runner. With 425mm's the BR used to shift about 450m, but it was never practical to mine the basket for 425s in any one place.

The pos modules remain blockade runner scope for yanking too - so you can deadstick a pos between sessions so it doesn't chew fuel.

I'm interested in seeing just how much more industry this change kicks up, across all secs. Minerals are almost like a psuedo currency in EVE, so anything that makes moving minerals around is going to encourage more use.

It'd be funny if the mineral market got even stronger, due to ease of moving mins to null for supercap construction. Grrr, those evil nullsec cartels, making things better for people. Grr I say!

Talk about your strawman. She didn't say "go die", or anything of the sort. In fact, she's easily one of the most polite people I've ever encountered in EVE.

You're just wildly grasping for something to prop up your bullshit arguments.

So I'll spell it out for you. If you're a "highsec player" you do not know or care enough about the game to be remotely qualifed to be a dev.

It's the same reason why nullsec has more CSM chairs. Because you halfwits can't figure out how to vote, or you can't be asked.

The end.

I have no arguments to prop up.

In ANY CASE I shall make massive money, either on the likes of her, on miners and on you.

Also, I have always voted people who are estimated, famous EvE software creators and they know EvE well enough to have reverse engineered the formulas so STFU with your own BS propaganda.

It's not because "nullsec" are more qualified or anything, it's just demographics that CCP runs and found out which playerbase to push. It's not grand player qualities like you delude yourself a category got, but large number law of paying subscribers fidelization and other marketing department material.

CCP means Crowd Control Production and you are exactly their ideal target.