It is stupid to earn less

They earn more by doing what I suggested, than by what you suggested.

And the pricing of the mineral source that is all non-ice/ore reprocessable items just took a nose dive due to the efficiency reduction.

Are you claiming that 100 trit from 400 ISK is less efficient than 100 trit from 400 ISK?

I wouldn't.

Just one problem: we do not have the necessary means to alter the manufacturing process. So no, they pretty much had to, and again, this arbitrary differentiation was exactly what they wanted to remove since it had ultimately failed to do any good.

The primary goal of tiericide is to eliminate any explicit power difference between ships within a class. If the power within a class is more or less level across all ships (which it is after the rebalance), the price should also be level.

So then, if prices are to be more level, where should this new price line be set? The obvious answer would be to just average the cost of all battleships and then set the prices at that average - top tier prices would come down, and bottom would go up. Unfortunately, with battleships, this was not possible. Top tier battleships represent an enormous amount of mineral consumption in EVE at their current costs. That means that lowering the cost of tier 3 battleships would have a recessionary effect on EVE's economy as mineral prices suffered.

That means we are to have prices more equal, but also, we can't lower the prices of the top tier ships significantly. This felt a bit uncomfortable at first, causing certain Devs to say "OMGWTFZFBFBFBB!!" when they saw the proposal, but we looked into some metrics around player wealth and income and found that EVE players are making money faster and faster, and even new players should have no trouble enduring the bump in cost. On top of this, inflation provides room for cost increase as well.

Or did you forget the part of tiericide where they added "extra minerals" to the BPC's removing the potential for "buy and flip"

No reason other than

That is exactly what I'm talking about, you knowGǪ It was a kludge to bridge the gap between the old arbitrary (and ultimately incorrect) prices and the tierless ones they wanted for the tierless ships.

The equalisation was, again, pretty much the opposite of arbitrary: it was very deliberate and with a very specific goal in mind, namely to erase the arbitrary differences that were put in place when the game was initially designed and which had since been proven to not do their job.

GǪexactly the reason I stated: they had to be equalised and down was not an option.

Why can't you answer a simple question?
Why is it stupid to pick a skill that lets you earn more?
How do you earn more with less minerals?
What makes you think that a unit of trit will be worth anything other than a unit of trit?

The obvious solution (For missioners) here is to cease the dropping of loot in missions and do something to make Salvaging a complex and unique system :-)

The rest of you can just **** off

Could replace the timed bonus with a bonus room with a "New Order ELITE NPC champion of highsec Spawn" ...]

Aaah the delicious duplicitous irony of null sec proponents now vociferously claiming that Reprocessing absolutely has to be severely nerfed, because even though they where the ones exploiting its efficiency to the nines with untold amounts of 425s conveniently reprocessed for their pleasure at near 100% efficiency (rather than mining their own belts), now, they no longer need to!

So now, ofc, its ok for Reprocessing to die, and for nobody else to have any use of it, because they no longer need it for exploiting!

Glorious! 7o

As someone having a vast experience in many things all around mining, I can safely say you are missing a link.

The link is, the more you make it profitable, the more the multiboxers will spread and grow a bigger cancer than they already are.

This will - once gain - deepen the "space divide". The guy in a Retriever is going to get all of 2 mining cycles at ice before it's all depleted. It's easy to see this every day even now, imagine once it becomes even more profitable.

This is bad, because having played MMOs since early 2000 I have seen what happens when a "divide" happens.

The game becomes all in the hands of the "Elite" who were established before the big changes and the game worsens a lot for the newcomers till they start trickling down to null. Natural turnover which also affects (in a smaller portion) those established players does the rest and the game slowly fades out.



Annedoctal proof: EvE has become the great game it is without "space divides". Let's change the factors that made EvE great and see what happens.

Tippia, is this a usual thing for you? I mean is this like the best you've got? Your "A"-game?

This kind of endless repetitions and variations of circular logic, littered with little inconsistencies and smatterings of discursive dishonesty?

You realise, I hope, that this kind of conduct would be absolutely unacceptable in an actual debate?

I have to say its very tiresome and rather uninspired.
I had hope you had more intelligence and integrity than this.
Is that how you are used to "winning"?
By boring your antagonist to death?

is there basically 28 pages of "it's unfair that meta module refining is getting nerfed yet again after being handed the glory that is MTUs"?

So get better at being self sufficient. Learn new ways to keep yourself in ships.

"You are meant to join your nearest null sec alliance, biomass your brain but get your precious free SRP ships!"

More or less.

Tippia, is this a usual thing for you? I mean is this like the best you've got? Your "A"-game?

This kind of endless repetitions and variations of circular logic, littered with little inconsistencies and smatterings of discursive dishonesty?

You realise, I hope, that this kind of conduct would be absolutely unacceptable in an actual debate?

I have to say its very tiresome and rather uninspired.
I had hope you had more intelligence and integrity than this.
Is that how you are used to "winning"?
By boring your antagonist to death?

Why are you getting worked up over a nerf to the thing that earns the least isk when running missions? Chances are you wont even notice the difference and the best way to earn isk from missions involves no looting at all.

This also just happens to be a nice little buff to miners.

I did place a remark, at the bottom of my post, about discouraging multiboxers and such, I guess you didn't see that.

lol that's not a bad idea, having missions based on the New Order would be fun! (include both sides)

Working with others is more rewarding than going solo, and now for the weather.

Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec.
In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 45-50% nerf (correction from the original post, the null sec lackeys were even more vicious than I first thought) to all mission loot refines.

We used to be able to tank concord. There is a very good reason why we cant do this anymore.