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Desivo Delta Visseroff
Cataclysmic Paradox
146
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:13:00 -
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Meh.... I haven't done a mission in about six months maybe longer (it was before the MTU). The last time I did, I fell asleep drunk and exhausted while warping into a Blockade mission. Downtime saved my pod. If I remember correctly, I would just yolo reprocess everything under 10K and then just yolo sell to the highest buy order.
This new POS module sounds awesome though. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1380
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:26:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:CCP need to make null worth fighting for first. null-sec exists since 2003? You say players were fighting in it just for fun? And there was NEVER any reasons to fight for it at all? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10468
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:29:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP need to make null worth fighting for first. null-sec exists since 2003? You say players were fighting in it just for fun? And there was NEVER any reasons to fight for it at all?
Can you think of any reason to invade goon space other than because its goons? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Xeronikus
MARE Technology Department
5
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:32:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:March rabbit wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP need to make null worth fighting for first. null-sec exists since 2003? You say players were fighting in it just for fun? And there was NEVER any reasons to fight for it at all? Can you think of any reason to invade goon space other than because its goons?
Not invading precisely because it's goons seems like a much more likely scenario to me. |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2307
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:36:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Can you think of any reason to invade goon space other than because its goons?
Deklein's pretty nice if you can multibox ishtars. Way easier than blitzing 4 missions at once at least. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:36:00 -
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@Batelle: Im afraid we are at an impasse. Your points in the last post do not convince me and are not rebuttals to my points, but rather just repetition of your initial position.
I can only agree to disagree with you on the matter of non-ore/ice reprocessing changes. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14183
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:38:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec. In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot refines.
Or they could all sell the modules to one player with those skills.
Like the large majority of them do anyway
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14183
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Xeronikus wrote:baltec1 wrote: Just to point out, Chribba held sov solo for a rather long time.
Well, this solves all the issues I pointed out for all the other 99.X% of the players who are interested in null space but dislike the current conditions I mentioned earlier. Nobody likes the current sov setup. But it is better than what we had before.
In the sense that solitary for life is better than being staked out over an anthill.
1 Kings 12:11
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20171
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:43:00 -
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GǪexcept that it has pretty much nothing to do with highsec, and except that mission runners can earn just as much as they always did.
So no, mission runners GÇö and indeed all types of ratters GÇö can just carry on as before without being affected in the slightest, regardless of which part of space they're in. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Cataclysmic Paradox
146
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:45:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
Or they could all sell the modules to one player with those skills.
Like the large majority of them do anyway
Malcanis, you bust the tinfoil too quickly. I was hoping for a threadnaught of uninformed frothing rage |
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Thead Enco
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
103
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:52:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec. In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot refines.
Plex>alt>Train refines
Or
Make a friend with max refine skills and throw him a few iskies
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
584
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:57:00 -
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My main just finished maxing refine skills. So in the true spirit of eve i have to say: you can all go to hell. #yolo #reproswag
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
163
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:58:00 -
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Xeronikus wrote:baltec1 wrote: Just to point out, Chribba held sov solo for a rather long time.
Well, this solves all the issues I pointed out for all the other 99.X% of the players who are interested in null space but dislike the current conditions I mentioned earlier.
Yep, null is owned by 2 entities. Or is it 1.
Null is the lame of the game.
Hit that web site sheep, mittens needs moar rmt. |
Xeronikus
MARE Technology Department
5
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:14:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Xeronikus wrote:baltec1 wrote: Just to point out, Chribba held sov solo for a rather long time.
Well, this solves all the issues I pointed out for all the other 99.X% of the players who are interested in null space but dislike the current conditions I mentioned earlier. Yep, null is owned by 2 entities. Or is it 1. Null is the lame of the game. Hit that web site sheep, mittens needs moar rmt.
The hell are you talking about? |
Ribor
Yordle Kingdom
9
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:34:00 -
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Xeronikus wrote:What I don't get is why hi-sec gets nerfed more and more (I can't really remember a single big improvement in the past years). If the goal is to push more people into null: well, some people simply do not want to. I've been there three times, it sucked three times, hard. I've had my share.
Also some people don't like the notion of being treated like cattle in some big ass alliance. Umm..incursions. Most profitable thing to do in high sec for about 0% risk. Make more from those than you can hope from missions |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
493
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:34:00 -
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Best solution.
Blitz and ignore loot.
Churn more missions and trade LP for all those lovely Sisters Probes and Virtual Implants and let the loot rot.
You actually make more ISK. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1159
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:41:00 -
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Not convinced by the inability to reach perfect refine for high/low sec. Once Null Sec adjusts and other balance points are also implemented this may actually end up tipping the scales too far in Null Industries favour long term. It's a very dangerous precedent to set as it says Null must be best at everything, rather than each section of space having a true identity for what it's used for.
That said, the change to favour players who have trained the skills properly rather than the current 'slap a few levels on and be at 100%' is a good change, as it makes mining & industry a more serious profession skill wise than it used to be. Just concerns it's going too far in nerfing high sec.
P.S. Yes! 50% base on all Null Outposts. Something I have been in favour of for a long time. |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Imperium Mordor
149
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:54:00 -
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Every time they make the game harder they thin the herd, which is good, leaves room for talent. -½o-+ Sauron Of_Mordor |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:00:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:I like how nerf is called "significant improvements" in the article.
CCP is practically a government. At least they use the same methods of crowd control. Nerfs ARE improvements.
You know, that's kind of why they're done. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2394
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:21:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Lipbite wrote:I like how nerf is called "significant improvements" in the article.
CCP is practically a government. At least they use the same methods of crowd control. Nerfs ARE improvements. You know, that's kind of why they're done.
Nerfs like this are a direct attack by the null sec cartels against high sec. So from the perspective of the cartel leadership, who stand to profit quite nicely from this, yeah, it is an improvement. For everyone in high sec, it is yet another indication of the contempt and hatred null sec dev's have for the largest part of their subscription base. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
288
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:27:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Lipbite wrote:I like how nerf is called "significant improvements" in the article.
CCP is practically a government. At least they use the same methods of crowd control. Nerfs ARE improvements. You know, that's kind of why they're done. Nerfs like this are a direct attack by the null sec cartels against high sec. So from the perspective of the cartel leadership, who stand to profit quite nicely from this, yeah, it is an improvement. For everyone in high sec, it is yet another indication of the contempt and hatred null sec dev's have for the largest part of their subscription base.
You're pathetic. Get a life.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
713
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:28:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:...it is yet another indication of the contempt and hatred null sec dev's have for the largest part of their subscription base. Then protest in a positive way Doomsdale. Lead by example and cancel your subscription.
All this hot air is good for nothing but balloons. Real concern for highsec would involve action, not just whining. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1063
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:51:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So mining is being buffed.
Don't know many mission runners who mine though sir. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3255
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:52:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I applaud this wonderful highsec nerf, its just as we discussed at our last lobbying session.
Yep. You and I, among others, basically called it despite the efforts of the professional forum trolls to derail the thread. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
714
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:05:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Don't know many mission runners who mine though sir. Sure you do. All of them soon.
eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3255
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:08:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Don't know many mission runners who mine though sir. Sure you do. All of them soon.
My thought was: "I don't know many mission runners who have heavy refining skills, either." Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
714
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:12:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Don't know many mission runners who mine though sir. Sure you do. All of them soon. My thought was: "I don't know many mission runners who have heavy refining skills, either." I was just kidding really. I don't see the sky falling down with this.
A lot of the discussion in the dev post is positive towards the few changes announced so far. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1508
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:14:00 -
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CCP should kill mission running with a hammer and turn it into something that has a real impact on the game by making it meaningful and entertaining.
Rescuing the damsel for the 85 billionth time for no particular reason belongs in a theme park and not a sandbox. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3255
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:15:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Don't know many mission runners who mine though sir. Sure you do. All of them soon. My thought was: "I don't know many mission runners who have heavy refining skills, either." I was just kidding really. I don't see the sky falling down with this. A lot of the discussion in the dev post is positive towards the few changes announced so far.
I don't see the sky falling down either. My point is that most mission runners don't bother to refine.
It only effects people who were doing it wrong in the first place, as far as mission running goes. The only other effect is to incentivize actually training refining skills, and using player infrastructure, neither of which are bad. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
557
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:25:00 -
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As someone who mines a lot and has invested an awful lot of skill points across various characters in it, I applaud this change if it's true. |
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