Rather than comparing pure numbers, also consider you're switching damage types. Yes, the Amarr drones are slower than Minmatar, but they'll do a much better job at hitting low EM resist.

If you're making a damage type choice, it's most likely because you're going after rats. If you're going after rats, you don't need the speed, and Gallente drones will do more damage (since all EM-weak rats are also Th-weak).

If you're going after a fast target, which is the better choice: a drone that has a higher chance of catching the target but which might do slightly less damage, or a drone which might not catch the target, but does more damage on the off chance that it does.

Yes there is, and they're the exact same roles as now since the design pattern is exactly the same as before. If you expect fast targets, you go Minmatar; if you expect tough targets, you go Gallente. Betting that a target should happen to be slightly slower and EM-weak, or just a tiny bit too fast and kinetic-weak is such a long shot that it's just not worth risking.

Smoothing out a differentiation that isn't working because you always pick the drones that are the best at something doesn't suddenly mean you're not going to pick the drones that (still) are the best. It's the same differentiation as we currently have and which is currently not working. It's not going to work any better just because it becomes numerically prettier.

I didnt mean mix as in 2 amarr 3 gallente, I meant as a mix of dps/speed. Maybe I find Gallentte drones too slow, but still like having more DPS than minmatar drones. That's when I would go with Caldari. Not a hard decision.

There is no "best-at" role anymore, so pick your flavor and go with it.

Gallente have tracking problems on fast frigates, Minmatar are unideal for slower targets that can be hit by higher damage drones. Use one of the others as a compromise for non perfect scenarios. As I said, not that hard.

Oh right, but 10% would be a tiny bit too OP.

This means that all light combat drones will now be unlocked and bonused from the Light Drone Operation skill, and medium combat drones will be unlocked and bonused from the Medium Drone Operation skill

This was mainly because the spelling out the details a bit more long winded for sentries since they're not changing by uniform percentages. I decided to pass along the basics and let the spreadsheet at the end provide the specifics.

In practice, damage with T2 Gardes and Bouncers will be going down a bit (but with Bouncers gaining a lot of tracking and Gardes gaining a fair amount of falloff) while damage with T2 Curators and Wardens goes up a bit.

the drones should have a secondary damage effect to bring out a diversity, caldari drones do their primary damage, but have the secondary effect of a possible disruption of weapon systems, (ie, they will have a percentage chance to disrupt the next volley of fire so as to cause a miss on the target. ) Amarr with do primary damage, but also a secondary effect of a small percentage of capacitor nullified) no where near the level of the dedicated ecm type, but enough to be a factor in a battle. but with a stacking penalty so if your targeted by 100 caldari drones, you wont miss more than the effect of 5 of them. this will add color and verity to drone warfare and add a new variable to drone fights. similar effects can be available to the other 2 types to round out the playing field.

Speak for yourself, I use drones that are going to be the best overall for whatever situations I expect. Amarr or Caldari drones sound perfect for not getting caught in the tracking woes of Hobgoblins and the meager DPS of warriors.

boohoo

But that's just it: for the situations you can expect, EM is still worthless and Kn will be no different than it currently isGǪ and as the stats show, it is pretty much worthless as well.

You go for best in class. GÇ£Kind of ok at this, and meh at the otherGÇ¥ will never be best in class.

The only way to solve that is to increase the number of classes or to remove them altogether and just make it the role of the die if you picked the right type for what you meet.

Must you consistently whine about everything?

So let me get this straight.
You trash the AI a couple years ago, because you hated anyone who used heavies in missions.
Then you trashed the Omnidirectional, because we "adapted:" (read as do less effective damage than heavies), and started using Sentries.

But , no, that is not enough. Every single person who kills themselves to get the skills to get T2 sentries just got screwed even further since Garde II's just took another huge hit in damage. Because Garde's were used on 3 of the 4 NPC's.

Man, you just can't help yourself, wrecking the PvE game, can you?
My Stratios in low sec Amarr space, or low sec Gallente space just got creamed even more after the Omni wipeout.

BTW , I retired my Proteus mission runner when you wiped out Omni's.
Now, I can retire any of the other PvE drone boats I have.

If this is a troll I will pod you!



Be aware of the side effect this is going to have on new players wanting to fly the Algos. To reach its full potential you will need to train both light and medium drones. This previously was done with one skill but now will require two. Same thing goes for the Vexor. In both cases you will need to train for three weapon system to fully use the ship. This is not new player friendly.

Are you going to change the bandwidth/bonus on these ships?

Regarding the Fighters Fighter bomber changes:

1) The Fighter Bombers are getting their damage output nerfed. Two FB currently do 6k damage, 1 FB after the changes will do 1400 (base damage) * 1.5 (drone interfacing V) * 2 (100% supercarrier bonus) = 4200, 70% down from 6k. Are my calculations correct (assuming no DDAs are fit)?

Thanks!

Do you seriously think that he EVER considers new players when wrecking a system in game?
Really? Just look at his track record.

It is a little strange that in every single game adjustment thread, he just happens to be performing the PvE activity that gets hit the most by the changes.

It is a little strange that in every single game adjustment thread, he just happens to be performing the PvE activity that gets hit the most by the changes.

The fact you keep ignoring the issue and mumbling "not that hard" shows a clear and unquestionable lack of understanding.

yes, there is still two "best in class" Drones. Gall will outdamge Caldari in every circumstance where speed is not a factor. Minny will out hit (and hence our damage) Amarr in every circumstance where speed is a factor.

Again, and be specific please, detail a circumstance where you, as a pilot, would choose Amarr over Minny and then show us (with the maths) how the Amarr Drones will out-perform Minny in that scenario.

If you can't do that, I guess it IS "that hard", because as I and most have said, best-in-class will still be best in class.