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Womyn Power
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
64
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:59:00 -
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when can we expect missile application lows or mids? or even missile range lows or mids?
it's pretty hilarious drones are getting omni lows before missiles get any kind of application that isn't a rig
how about a t3 bc that uses missiles?
how about un-nerfing heavies?
the drake wasn't anywhere near what you've made the ishtar |
Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1711
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Posted - 2014.04.01 17:59:00 -
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> buffing supers
why, god. Why |
Angry Mustache
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
154
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:01:00 -
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All hail wyvernfleet. An official Member of the Goonswarm Federation Complaints Department.
vote Angry Mustache for CSM9-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326509&find=unread |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
584
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:01:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:> buffing supers
why, god. Why
they're also buffing broken level 5 mission running carriers |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
344
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:02:00 -
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Overall looks good. Only part that bothered me was this:
Quote:Currently drones are a very skill-intensive weapon system, thanks to the legacy of the original drone implementation years ago.
So you're fixing the fact that drones are very skill-intensive by...adding another drone skill that newbies will need to train in order to use medium drones? |
iskflakes
902
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:03:00 -
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Will supers be able to fit a 10 fighters and 10 fighter bombers simultaneously?
This seems like a good buff. - |
Midori Tsu
Evolution Northern Coalition.
124
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:04:00 -
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Obil Que wrote:If racial drone skills will now be required to use T2 sentries, will those with Sentry Drone Interfacing V been getting any skills credited for racial drones or will they simply lose access to any drones they do not have the racial skills already trained for?
I'm worried about this as well. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3805
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:07:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:> buffing supers
why, god. Why
Are they truly buffing supers?
Quote:To compensate for these changes, the base damage of Fighters and Fighter Bombers is being reduced. Fighters will find that with Drone Interfacing trained to five their basic damage returns to normal and all the other skills and bonuses from Drone Damage Amplifiers are pure additions. Fighter Bombers will need Drone Interfacing 5 and two Tech Two Drone Damage Amplifiers to slightly surpass their current damage rates, and any additional or higher quality Drone Damage Amplifiers will increase their damage above and beyond current maximums.
Carriers are getting a pretty significant buff.
Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf! |
Taru Audeles
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:07:00 -
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Don't you guys have some REAL bugs to fix ? Nice waist of time writing such bullshit that never will make it into the game. Do your jobs guys and actually FIX some stuff.
And NO this is not an april first post. At least mine is not |
Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
67
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:08:00 -
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Those lowslot omnis, will they be a passive unscripted equivalent to TEs? |
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Capqu
Love Squad
416
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:08:00 -
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i understand why you give drones such high tracking, because they orbit so fast that their own speed would make them do no damage to even their intended targets without it. that makes sense.
so compensate somehow, perhaps by giving heavies the same signature resolution as battleship guns instead of cruiser, so that they don't perfectly track interceptors. you're making them faster, which would be fine if they didn't pose such a huge threat to frigates
as for sentries, they don't have the same problem with their own speed wrecking their tracking, so they don't need the massive tracking advantages they have over other similar weapon systems. compare garde ii tracking vs rails or range vs blasters and you can instantly see something is wrong. "but you can just destroy the drones" stopped being an argument when you introduced mobile "as many drones as you can carry" depots
i mean the blog is cool and all and amarr drones did need a buff but i'm seriously disappointed that the tracking issues around drones plaguing eve atm isn't being even mentioned http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:09:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf!
on the other hand, it's no longer trivial to defang them Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
251
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:11:00 -
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It's happening *_* |
Phacops Alabel
Physics Says No
0
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:12:00 -
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This all looks good. Is there any chance of you guys looking at the drone UI. Some buttons on the HUD that would launch, recall, engage etc drones would be awesome. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3805
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:12:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf!
on the other hand, it's no longer trivial to defang them
Don't take my post wrong... I fully support this change, as I think all ships should have to make fitting choices. This puts real fitting choices on the super pilot: Heavy tank vs Heavy Damage (for armor supers at least).
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PinkKnife
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
470
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:14:00 -
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Is there any plan to address the racial balance of the fighters as well? Or give the fighters a MWD bump like the heavies got? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:14:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Weaselior wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf!
on the other hand, it's no longer trivial to defang them Don't take my post wrong... I fully support this change, as I think all ships should have to make fitting choices. This puts real fitting choices on the super pilot: Heavy tank vs Heavy Damage (for armor supers at least). I more disagree they're getting a nerf. I think in practice the two changes combine to buff supercarriers. Sure, nyx/aeon paper dps goes down if they're fitting full tank, but in practice they'd just get their fbs bombed away anytime they were in a fight they'd fit for tank. So the net benefit is they get more real DPS in a slugfight, and more dps in a gank. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Hachi Ironfist
BrainWorks Industries
108
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:14:00 -
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So Gallente is hit hard by the nerf bat... |
Haiyooo
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:16:00 -
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This better be a joke |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
255
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:16:00 -
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buff drones huehuehue
But no seriously, was really hoping to see a more significant boost to regular Fighters. Their current state is pretty ridiculous - as is they're expensive, take up waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much room, and can't hit stuff. (But you already knew that.) Do you have graphs on Fighter use vs other drone types (Sentries for example)? Those would be interesting to see. Core Skills | EVE Music |
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
584
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:17:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Is there any plan to address the racial balance of the fighters as well? Or give the fighters a MWD bump like the heavies got?
fighters shouldn't even exist |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
1079
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:17:00 -
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Good changes overall. Does the newly rechristened "Advanced Drone Avionics" still require Electronic Warfare IV?
If not, whither EWAR drones? (Stop laughing.) Actually, if they got their own skill (see also: Logistics drones), you could tactically hand out EWAR drone bonuses to ships that are starved for mid slots--after you fix them, anyway. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1086
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:17:00 -
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So the Ishtar will remain the only heavy assault cruiser with a 400m sig radius weapon. The other races too want a T2 cruiser with large guns ! Even better, you're actually BUFFING them. Seriously? :(
Oh, without mentionning that sentries have an indecent tracking and alpha relatively to their dps and compared to other medium guns.
Dissapointed to see no change for that. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking.
Proposed change for ECM - Not chance based - not max target reduction based |
Jeinvay Kunsu
Br0wn Coat5
8
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:18:00 -
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Right then, i read the blog, and was nodding in approval.....until i reached the bottom. I've been training for SCs for a while now, and was really looking forward to crapping fighters all over the place one day. Now it looks like that training is teeny bit of a waste.
WHY would you reduce the super-carrier drone amounts from 20 to 10, when the carriers, which are a hull class BELOW supers, can field 15? I wouldn't be so baffled by the supercarrier drone deployment nerf if this made any sense. The word 'SUPER' in super carrier implies that it is superior to its predecessor.
I could just be overreacting, but it would make more sense to me if the carriers could field less fighters than the supercarriers could by default. |
penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
337
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:19:00 -
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What racial drone spec skill will affect Shadow bombers? |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
292
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:19:00 -
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So will Omnis also affect Fighters and FiBos now? |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1325
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:19:00 -
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Hopefully this is also a step down the road of making the drone AI better as well. I'm getting really tired of having to rename my new drones "Fido" every time one of the other ones "accidentally mistakes Fido for the red-cross menace and/or a blue." Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:20:00 -
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Jeinvay Kunsu wrote:WHY would you reduce the super-carrier drone amounts from 20 to 10, when the carriers, which are a hull class BELOW supers, can field 15? I wouldn't be so baffled by the supercarrier drone because any supercarrier pilot prefers one fb with double the hp and damage to two fbs with normal hp and damage
the reason why is that bombers love bombing fighter-bombers and with the double hp fb it is much harder to bomb away all your dps
basically use your noggin instead of your feels when it comes to numbers Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
iskflakes
902
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:21:00 -
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penifSMASH wrote:What racial drone spec skill will affect Shadow bombers?
I think those specs only affect T2 drones.
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Reizak StormFury
Engineering Evolutions Limited Gatekeepers Universe
20
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:21:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTcVprNH3ns
Says it all I reckon. |
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