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Irrilian	Posted - 2006.05.08 11:37:00 - [211] Nice animation, a really inventive way to ask this issue to addressed. I hope at the very least you guys get a comment from ccp on the matter. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:10:00 - [212] Here is an insight remove non active players im sure you have 300 trial accounts that never play agian ..
Wattish	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:26:00 - [213] Originally by: Valkazm Here is an insight remove non active players im sure you have 300 trial accounts that never play agian .. We do this quite often actually, its still not enough. We have just had a census to determine people who are active to stop them being booted from the corp.
Whalesaver	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:28:00 - [214] Excellent animation. Love the voiceover, sounds very professional! Got to keep this on page one :) ----------------------- Doesn't shoot first Will ask questions later And enjoys a nice cup of tea
xnder	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:42:00 - [215] CCP are ebil Lets hope some of them have good hearts and release the new skill needed ----------------------------------------------- post with all item i have on sales & auctions
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:45:00 - [216] Originally by: Bein Glorious But anyways, someone suggested a few pages back that allowing a larger corporation might create greater strain on the server because of an enlarged corporate chat channel. Actually the chat channel wasn't the primary concern, it was every single element. You really really can't just assume all corp functions will work for a larger corp without testing(there have been 2 HUGE gangs which crashed the gang system). It's really not that simple. My answer would be better alliance tools and the ability to create a confederation of alliances, tbh. "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:49:00 - [217] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Bein Glorious But anyways, someone suggested a few pages back that allowing a larger corporation might create greater strain on the server because of an enlarged corporate chat channel. Actually the chat channel wasn't the primary concern, it was every single element. You really really can't just assume all corp functions will work for a larger corp without testing(there have been 2 HUGE gangs which crashed the gang system). It's really not that simple. My answer would be better alliance tools and the ability to create a confederation of alliances, tbh. you can break the gang system with 3 people, so that's really a moot point. besides scaling issues, I honestly don't know why you're objecting to this skill being released and allowing goonfleet to play the game they want to play it. goonfleet is 1 corporation, not an alliance. they only reason they turned into 2 corporations is because of the limits ccp imposed on corp numbers.
Thydon	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:50:00 - [218] Well Eris said she would send a mail after the weekend. Let's at least give her untill wednesday / thursday to get a response ? A response IS waranted tho ! Give the poor bee's their skill = signed !
Ab Tallen	Posted - 2006.05.08 12:55:00 - [219] Edited by: Ab Tallen on 08/05/2006 12:55:01 Originally by: Sweriskaka Honestly people, if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your mouth shut. A single array with 2600 elements needs LESS memory than 1300 elements. I'd like to see how you do that. Anyway, we're talking databases here and although I have no idea how the EVE data model looks like, let's just imagine the simple case that there's sort of a relation table that holds the corp connection for a character. There are many, many operations where that table would have to be queried or joined in, and be it for such simple things as to find out the ships to be marked as corp member on your screen. I bet it would be a heavily used structure in the database, and I can easily imagine there are magic limits where everything falls over. For example the table index doesn't fit into some cache anymore and suddenly your query times explode because of additional disk accesses. Then add all the corporate role management and whatnot for some additional spice on the situation.

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:03:00 - [220] Originally by: Thydon Well Eris said she would send a mail after the weekend. Let's at least give her untill wednesday / thursday to get a response ? A response IS waranted tho ! Give the poor bee's their skill = signed ! I cant force ccp to respond I can only beg them to read the thread and poke them often, and have them poke other people in return. Find and meet me here


TomB	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:05:00 - [221] We knew about this was an issue for goonfleet and other corps before this dramatic tale of bees. There is a patch coming in a short while with mostly fixes but a few balance changes as well but it has been a lock down mode for some time. We will see if we can squeeze the skill in, if not you will have to wait a little while before you can be merged, but not to long. Bee safe and stay away from these wonderful blue flowers. .

Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:07:00 - [222] Originally by: TomB We knew about this was an issue for goonfleet and other corps before this dramatic tale of bees. There is a patch coming in a short while with mostly fixes but a few balance changes as well but it has been a lock down mode for some time. We will see if we can squeeze the skill in, if not you will have to wait a little while before you can be merged, but not to long. Bee safe and stay away from these wonderful blue flowers. hurrah!
Trac3rt	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:08:00 - [223] To all the people here who are saying "Oh, it may break the game.", the only thing I have to say is WE KNOW. We know it may not be possible, we know they may not want to release it, we know it may break the game, we also know that it may just be 5-10 minutes work over hte next downtime. Unless it iwll break the game, there is no good reason why the skill should not be in the game. I wouldn't mind if CCP made it an almost impossible to get skill, or priced it at 100Bil, because it would make an interesting goal for the corporation to focus on. ___
Wattish	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:09:00 - [224] Originally by: TomB We knew about this was an issue for goonfleet and other corps before this dramatic tale of bees. There is a patch coming in a short while with mostly fixes but a few balance changes as well but it has been a lock down mode for some time. We will see if we can squeeze the skill in, if not you will have to wait a little while before you can be merged, but not to long. Bee safe and stay away from these wonderful blue flowers. I love you TomB, THIS \|----------------------------\| much! :D
Wrayeth	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:10:00 - [225] Originally by: Trac3rt To all the people here who are saying "Oh, it may break the game.", the only thing I have to say is WE KNOW. We know it may not be possible, we know they may not want to release it, we know it may break the game, we also know that it may just be 5-10 minutes work over hte next downtime. Unless it iwll break the game, there is no good reason why the skill should not be in the game. I wouldn't mind if CCP made it an almost impossible to get skill, or priced it at 100Bil, because it would make an interesting goal for the corporation to focus on. Or your entire post could be made obsolete because TomB just derailed your speculation. In all seriousness, that was a creative way to get the devs' attention, and props to CCP for responding. :) -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Trac3rt	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:11:00 - [226] Originally by: TomB We knew about this was an issue for goonfleet and other corps before this dramatic tale of bees. There is a patch coming in a short while with mostly fixes but a few balance changes as well but it has been a lock down mode for some time. We will see if we can squeeze the skill in, if not you will have to wait a little while before you can be merged, but not to long. Bee safe and stay away from these wonderful blue flowers. I thank you so much for the response. We now know where we stand. I don't think we mind waiting if say you are working on the problem. Thread is about to degenerate into 100 pages off Goonfleet love. ___
Remedial	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:13:00 - [227] Oh god my pants are so tight!
Turiel Demon	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:16:00 - [228] w00tw00t, hope it can be crowbarred into the patch :) ---- nothing to see here, move along nicely now, is that a pink dread out there. aaww you just missed it -eris It's not an Eidolon with 5 Basic Miner's on it, that's for certain.(FF04) ~kieron No love for me? :'( - Wrangler If you can't beat Eris, join her, hmmm that sounded so much better in my head - Cortes Cuddles Eeyore. He's soooo cute and doesn't play EVE. perfect -eris Eve-online Forum mods arn't Pokemon, you don't need to collect them all - Ductoris Here's my autograph - now do I get some groupie lub? Jacques' Don't be greedy :P -Capsicum

Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:16:00 - [229] Originally by: Remedial Oh god my pants are so tight! forum rules \| [email protected] \| I like to whip people...

Cefte	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:17:00 - [230] Happy bees are here again
Cvuos	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:22:00 - [231] Awesome TomB, thank you very much. By the way, a more personal version should arrive in Iceland right about...now...
Bein Glorious	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:25:00 - [232] hurray TRIP DRIVE ACTIVE
Thydon	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:26:00 - [233] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: Thydon Well Eris said she would send a mail after the weekend. Let's at least give her untill wednesday / thursday to get a response ? A response IS waranted tho ! Give the poor bee's their skill = signed ! I cant force ccp to respond I can only beg them to read the thread and poke them often, and have them poke other people in return. I was trying to be supportive towards you and CCP for once. Ofcourse you can't do more than try to help and pass the issue on. I was just saying that you had agreed to forward the mail and was trying to buy you some extra time. This game made me grouchy, sarcastic and sometimes (on this forum) in a spur of the moment, my old helpfull "non discouraged by the Gallente event (and others), the speed of processing petitions and such", good side pops up. I was trying to be nice :D
Zorlag	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:28:00 - [234] HURRAH
Thydon	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:29:00 - [235] ok, it just got worse, my g/f is watching "pride & prejudice", the orginal one with Colin Firth, a SIX HOUR CUSTOME DRAMA !!!! If i ever hear the name Mr Darcy again on the street I'll start a killing spree the likes of which is unseen in a 30 minute 12 player Quake match with 11 noobs and me.
Freeside	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:34:00 - [236] DANCE ALL NIGHT DANCE ALL NIGHT // \\ // \\ // \\ // \\ // \\
Aava Nefarr	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:47:00 - [237] I agree that the skill ought to be added. T'is quality tomb is working on it.
Virtuoso DeToure	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:53:00 - [238] Originally by: TomB We knew about this was an issue for goonfleet and other corps before this dramatic tale of bees. There is a patch coming in a short while with mostly fixes but a few balance changes as well but it has been a lock down mode for some time. We will see if we can squeeze the skill in, if not you will have to wait a little while before you can be merged, but not to long. Bee safe and stay away from these wonderful blue flowers. /swoons I knew an ex-UO PK couldn't do us wrong.
Selena 001	Posted - 2006.05.08 14:27:00 - [239] Give them the Damned Skill... Lots and lots of Bee's cant possibly bee a bad thing can it? Muwhahaha ___________ Dont mind me, I'm Forum-Whoring cause I dont have anything better to do with my life...
Larshus Magrus	Posted - 2006.05.08 14:44:00 - [240] /signed. Release the skill CCP.

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