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Silivar Karkun
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
200
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:52:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:Silivar Karkun wrote:so, the Gila now has the same idiotic bonus as the worm, and its bandwidth is nerfed so in case of getting attacked by frigates it has only the backup of 4 unbonused light drones.....pfffff.... So what? The Gila get's to join load of other ships in the game that are vulnerable to frigates. In exchange it's going to be pretty brutal against other cruisers. Is it just me that seems to think all the Gila pilots here seem to want something that can do everything solo? Eg massively tanky, does huge missile dps, can use sentries to hit hard at 50+km whilst also being able to tear apart frigates? You can't have everything guys. Many ships in this game have some weaknesses vs certain other classes yet that doesn't stop them being great fun and highly affective in other situations. New Gila is going to be great fun. If you want the drone options the old Gila had - fly an Ishtar.
that's the issue, changing it for the sake of making it unique, the ship was unique already IMO, it didnt need that 500% bullshit, it was a caldari hull with drones, now is a bad match of gallente bonuses (kin and therm bonus?, really?) with insane bonus and awfull bandwidth, disguised as a caldari hull.....
the Gila was ok, if PvP people doesnt saw use in it, its not my problem, but this change will kill the Gurista line, what's the point of having 2 overpowered med drones if you will only be able to use them for hunting down cruisers and above ships, if you're gonna die to a small frigate, cause your overpowered drones cannot follow and track it...
i expect this ship line will get forgotten more than it is right now, those bonuses will prove to be useless in the future...... |
Silivar Karkun
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
200
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:01:00 -
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gascanu wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:Why do you ******* devs feel the need to change anything about Guristas. The best part about missiles is the ease of switching damage types and you do your best to give them a niche application. We spend years training these skill intensive ships because we like what they do and you change them to be "new and exciting". All the time I spent maxing out sentries for my Guristas now worthless to me. **** you. Judging by this post and the 5 that followed it, I'd say the neckbeard rage is strong with this one. Just because you're bad at adapting and terrified of change, doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't get interesting new options. Sentries fit on a ton of boats, not just the Gila and RS. If you pull your head out of your rear, you'll probably see a lot of new opportunities that you couldn't see before. in fact is quite the opposite: the new gila will be a close range boat and that's it about "new opportunities" the gila as it it right now in eve is by far more versatile than this "rebalanced" gila; atm you can use it to do about anything, from close range brawler to a long range sniper; after the change you will be stuck with medium drones, while an ishtar for example will be abble to chose what types of drones should deploy: sentrys or heavys or medium or lights or ecm(or even salvage drones, lol); see, this^^ really sounds like allot of opportunities...
so, the pirate ship which is T1 and requires two racial lines will be locked to a niche aplication, while a T2 ship is a drone generalist......those roles are at the reverse
the Ishtar is a T2 ship, according to the tech chart presented by CCP, it should be a niche ship, the Gila is a pirate faction ship, a direct upgrade in power above Navy and T1 ships, so it should be a general upgrade above its supposed hull....
the Ishtar should be the ship with the 500% bonus.....not the Gurista ships then.......something is not right there...... |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
26
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:23:00 -
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Can we get more people to explain to these ******** devs that Guristas doesn't need to be "new and exciting", being that they are the only shield-tanked missile/drone ships in the game.
Take "new and exciting" to the ships that don't take 2-3 years to fully train for. |
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:24:00 -
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gascanu wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote: You're exactly the kind of person I was describing.
lol, so i give you an argumented reply and all you can answer is that ? i wonder who is the "neckbeard rage person" here
Your 'argument' was that the gila uses medium drones, so it MUST be worse than the Ishtar, which can use different types of drones.
You still completely fail to see what the Gila will be able to do, especially combined with the buffs to medium drones coming up in summer. You did read that devblog before crying on the forums, right?
With the right modules and the right pilot skill, the Gila will be a total beast rather than a different coloured Ishtar with no range or tracking bonuses.
There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates.
But you're too blind to see all this, all you can do is whine about how it won't have your precious sentries so you can play easymode or bonused light drones because they are totally the only answer for anybody who ever wants to kill frigates.
There's your reasoned response. You'd have been able to see it for yourself if you weren't so busy whining that you can't use sentries to substitute for your lack of skill and imagination. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3264
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:28:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
26
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:37:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus.
You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles.
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Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:40:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus. You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles.
No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.
Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3265
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:56:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles. And another idiot joins the block list... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
26
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Posted - 2014.04.10 17:59:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus. You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles. No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
So wrong and so dumb. Senty+cruise MJD rattlesnake far better and more versatile at doing lvl 4 missions than any gallente T2.
I guess it is unreasonable to expect the plebs to know how to play. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
26
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:01:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles. And another idiot joins the block list...
I see you can't really argue so you just ignore it. Haven't you spammed this thread enough with your extremely narrow minded perspective? |
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2053
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:03:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:Denrace wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:TinkerHell wrote: Can the Adrestia also get this? Currently its point range bonus means it can point further than it can lock. It is slightly annoying.
nerfing links would also fix your problem I wish someone would nerf your posting dumbass that's you, you're a dumbass
No U! BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:10:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus. You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles. No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour. So wrong and so dumb. Senty+cruise MJD rattlesnake far better and more versatile at doing lvl 4 missions than any gallente T2. I guess it is unreasonable to expect the plebs to know how to play.
Way to misquote me and still look like a moron. I said T1 and T2 hulls.
But wait, you're right - nobody uses the dominix for missions, silly me. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
27
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:17:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote: No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.
Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums.
Fabulous Rod wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:
You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles.
No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour. So wrong and so dumb. Senty+cruise MJD rattlesnake far better and more versatile at doing lvl 4 missions than any gallente T2. I guess it is unreasonable to expect the plebs to know how to play.
Way to misquote me and still look like a moron. I said T1 and T2 hulls.
But wait, you're right - nobody uses the dominix for missions, silly me.[/quote]
I have a sentry dominix too, idiot. Way to not understand that T2 > T1 and therefore T1 is irrelevant.
You must have some serious mental retardation to not recognize the fact that the Rattlesnake is losing all its versatility if this trend o changes for Guristas continues.
I just saved you some embarassment by not quoting the entirety of your moronic post. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3265
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:19:00 -
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And no, I'm not blocking you because you share a different viewpoint. I'm blocking you because you can't make it without behaving like a child. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
27
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:23:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:And no, I'm not blocking you because you share a different viewpoint. I'm blocking you because you can't make it without behaving like a child.
I see you are one of those childish morons who only claims they block someone to make that person somehow feel rejected by you, as if anyone really cares what your dumb-ass thinks.
Now get back to your basement before you clown yourself deeper into that dunce corner you dug for yourself. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
27
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:25:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote: No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.
Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums.
Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Fabulous Rod wrote:
You must be pretty stupid to only be looking at the miniscule upsides to these changes. The Guristas had great versatility before these changes and now they are being forced into extremely niche roles.
No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
So wrong and so dumb. Senty+cruise MJD rattlesnake far better and more versatile at doing lvl 4 missions than any gallente T2.
I guess it is unreasonable to expect the plebs to know how to play.[/quote]
Way to misquote me and still look like a moron. I said T1 and T2 hulls.
But wait, you're right - nobody uses the dominix for missions, silly me.[/quote]
I have a sentry dominix too, idiot. Way to not understand that T2 > T1 and therefore T1 is irrelevant.
You must have some serious mental retardation to not recognize the fact that the Rattlesnake is losing all its versatility if this trend o changes for Guristas continues.
I just saved you some embarassment by not quoting the entirety of your moronic post.[/quote] |
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:35:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote: No, they were inferior versions of the gallente T1 and T2 drone boats but with shields instead of armour.
You should really go back and actually read some of my posts and those of others. If you think these changes force the Gila and RS into 'niche' roles, then it's because you lack the skill and imagination to do great things with them. That's your problem, not the devs who you are so quick to insult.
Try improving yourself before spewing petty hatred at the devs and crying on the forums.
Laiannah Sahireen wrote: Way to misquote me and still look like a moron. I said T1 and T2 hulls.
But wait, you're right - nobody uses the dominix for missions, silly me.
I have a sentry dominix too, idiot. Way to not understand that T2 > T1 and therefore T1 is irrelevant. You must have some serious mental retardation to not recognize the fact that the Rattlesnake is losing all its versatility if this trend o changes for Guristas continues. I only saved you some embarrassment by not quoting the entirety of your moronic post.
Fabulous Rod wrote:I have a sentry dominix too
Fabulous Rod wrote:T2 > T1 and therefore T1 is irrelevant
Lol. Contradictory much?
T2: More specialised, not necessarily better. Do you really think that everybody who flies a T1 battleship is only doing so because they can't fly a maurauder or black ops?
Anyway, I'm done trying to discuss this with you. You have a disgusting attitude and a complete inability to actually discuss an issue without resorting to angry, childish insults. |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
27
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:40:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote:
Lol. Contradictory much?
T2: More specialised, not necessarily better. Do you really think that everybody who flies a T1 battleship is only doing so because they can't fly a maurauder or black ops?
You have got to be a 1/10 troll. Although I can't rule out that you might actually be stupid enough to think a t1 can compete with a Rattlesnake in level 4 missions. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3265
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:01:00 -
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The trolls are out in force today... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
PinkKnife
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
493
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:03:00 -
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Sigras wrote:PinkKnife wrote:Quote:Part of how I justified the weird bonus set is by looking at how it performs as a simple MWD/shield skrimisher, which it does quite well. What? Seriously? Do you ever, or have you ever bothered to actually fly any of these ships? Great at least Angels have some reason to actually fly them. There's no reason to fly a Sansha boat. It's just a ****** shield zealot with more cap problems, and a slower top speed, that can't even sig tank because lol shields. I should have known the ships that are never flown would continue to be never flown. Serpentis, sure keep the web bonus we think/admit is broken. Angels, sure get a unique warp speed buff in addition to your superb combat ability Guristas, Here, have ridiculously powerful drones Sisters, Here have covert ops cloak, woo. Sansha, uhh, you're ******. Here have a useless AB bonus that makes you slower than any MWD cruiser who might be chasing you. And a signature that's still bigger than any other AB cruiser, and a weak tracking bonus so you can't even orbit your own targets and apply full damage. Cool story bro. At least you're interesting and unique! The fact that you're too short sighted to see that you can now armor tank the ship as an amazing AHAC is not the ship's fault. Please do not blame ship balance for your short sightedness or stupidity.
It's not shortsighted to not compare a ship it isn't meant to compete with. Sure, armor tank it and make it into a ****** zealot, see how far that gets you. Congrats, you now have a ****** utility zealot with no damage application, worse tank, and twice as expensive. Cool story bro. |
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5175
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:10:00 -
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Now kids, you're going to have to find much more intellectual methods of calling each other idiots without actually coming out and saying it, otherwise the mods will just edit you further into uselessness.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3265
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:16:00 -
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I just want to see the proposals for the Pirate battleships already... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:36:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:Sigras wrote:PinkKnife wrote:Quote:Part of how I justified the weird bonus set is by looking at how it performs as a simple MWD/shield skrimisher, which it does quite well. What? Seriously? Do you ever, or have you ever bothered to actually fly any of these ships? Great at least Angels have some reason to actually fly them. There's no reason to fly a Sansha boat. It's just a ****** shield zealot with more cap problems, and a slower top speed, that can't even sig tank because lol shields. I should have known the ships that are never flown would continue to be never flown. Serpentis, sure keep the web bonus we think/admit is broken. Angels, sure get a unique warp speed buff in addition to your superb combat ability Guristas, Here, have ridiculously powerful drones Sisters, Here have covert ops cloak, woo. Sansha, uhh, you're ******. Here have a useless AB bonus that makes you slower than any MWD cruiser who might be chasing you. And a signature that's still bigger than any other AB cruiser, and a weak tracking bonus so you can't even orbit your own targets and apply full damage. Cool story bro. At least you're interesting and unique! The fact that you're too short sighted to see that you can now armor tank the ship as an amazing AHAC is not the ship's fault. Please do not blame ship balance for your short sightedness or stupidity. It's not shortsighted to not compare a ship it isn't meant to compete with. Sure, armor tank it and make it into a ****** zealot, see how far that gets you. Congrats, you now have a ****** utility zealot with no damage application, worse tank, and twice as expensive. Cool story bro. Sure, try fleets where they will be limited by zealot AB speed, or zealots will be limited to phantasm range, or the weaker tank of the tasm ****** armor tank. If you're going to fly a fast ship, in a fleet where its limited to a slower speed, why even have the speed bonus? Fact is it isn't an "AMAZING AHAC". It's a ****** AHAC, and the fact you think it is at all comparable shows how lazy, or stupid, you are. Do you even EFT? More so, compare a at best "meh" wanna be ahac, with the gila posted prior: http://i.imgur.com/NpWi1Ux.pngWhere you get 860 dps and 30k EHP, or the 90% webs, and you want to add a meh ahac as a comparable ship? I've heard of stockholm syndrome before, but this is just sad. Why would anyone accept such a mediocre entry as a pirate line up? You need to shield tank it, not armour tank it. It can be active armour tanked, but in most situations it is better to shield tank it. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1134
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:58:00 -
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thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1137
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:09:00 -
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
561
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:48:00 -
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Vadeim Rizen wrote:So I like that you reduced the nerf to the cynabal's powergrid, but I'm curious why there is still a nerf to powergrid at all? For artillery as it is I already require an ACR. Having to add a 2nd ACR would really make the arty cynabal even weaker than it already is. I'm having trouble seeing what it is you are trying to accomplish here. You're adding warp speed, but reducing the scan resolution and overall fitting, so it's kind of conflicting ideas on whether or not it's to be a cruiser/interceptor hybrid.... I like the idea of having a fast assault cruiser that does mediocre dps, but there is no tank if you take away pwg. as it stands right now my arty cynabal has 1 acr, and can only fit 1 lse with the medium neut. That's about 20k ehp, and does not need to be nerfed as that's already pretty week. There are assault frigs that are around that ehp. The cap life is already not very good after previous nerfs, and now a ship that's strength is supposed to be warping around like a frig is getting yet another nerf to cap regeneration, scan res, and tank. [...]
I'd actually prefer if a cut into PG would be accompanied by a focus on those now defined ceptor-traits. Like trading off PG and thus a couple big mods against warpspeed and a massreduction 8)
That augmented warpspeed would place it in a fast-warping cruiser category with the tengu and proteus using their respective prop subs, the cynabal as a pirateversion of that class should have a firm stand against the other two significantly slower, but many times tankier Tech III alternatives. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Sgt Ocker
Last Bastion of Freedom
153
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:23:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote:There are a ton of opportunities here now that Amarr and Caldari drones are getting love, the fact that medium drones will be faster in general and the fact that it will be able to use RLMLs will a hefty damage bonus to wreck frigates. I think thus sums it up nicely. Whether this holds for the Rattlesnake remains to be seenGǪ I'll be ecstatic with just the missile damage bonus. Why? You end up with 6 unbonused missile launchers. Torps will have lost the range bonus so will force you to be inside 20k 6 unbonused cruise is next to pointless with heavy drones, which again by nature force you to be close to your target. Forget rapid heavies because, well, , , heavy missiles Use rigs to augment missile damage on a snake your pretty much committing suicide. The PG & CPU nerfs that are sure to come with the "balance" will certainly have a big impact on how you fit the ship.
Gile & Rattlesnake, the 2 ships I loved to use sentries to snipe with - Gone.
I'm still curious about "Activation Proximity" for drones. Do drones only fire when in orbit (mwd off), or will they fire at a target while still in MWD mode?
CCP - I don't want to have to fly ships that are only usable for 1 thing, give back the sandbox nature of eve - give back the ability to fly ships as we choose. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3266
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Posted - 2014.04.11 02:00:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Why? You end up with 6 unbonused missile launchers. Torps will have lost the range bonus so will force you to be inside 20k 6 unbonused cruise is next to pointless with heavy drones, which again by nature force you to be close to your target. Forget rapid heavies because, well, , , heavy missiles Use rigs to augment missile damage on a snake your pretty much committing suicide. The PG & CPU nerfs that are sure to come with the "balance" will certainly have a big impact on how you fit the ship.
Gile & Rattlesnake, the 2 ships I loved to use sentries to snipe with - Gone. Torpedoes are kind of a dead weapon system at this point; you need to give up a huge amount of tank for any reasonable damage application. As for cruise missiles, they work fine in an unbonused role on the Scorpion Navy Issue, soGǪ Actually, if the "new and improved" Rattlesnake features kinetic and thermal damage it will totally rock with rapid heavy missile launchers (yes, I said it - fully expecting the ground to open up)GǪ I'm still optimistic that we'll get heavy and sentry damage bonuses - even if this means fewer drones (albeit more powerful). I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Liam Inkuras
Justified Chaos
920
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:35:00 -
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Pretty sure this thread is labeled [Pirate Faction CRUISERS], so give the BS talk a rest, and wait for that threadnaught. I wear my goggles at night.
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Arthur Aihaken
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:56:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Pretty sure this thread is labeled [Pirate Faction CRUISERS], so give the BS talk a rest, and wait for that threadnaught. It's related, and it's not like anything else is being discussed - so relax... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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