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El Space Mariachi Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 56	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:11:00 - [31] - Quote hey rise why do you hate me so much .
Viribus Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 180	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:11:00 - [32] - Quote Hey remember when you guys introduced tier 3 BCs and no one ever saw Cynabals again? Then all those t1 cruiser buffs, navy cruiser buffs, and HAC buffs? Good thing the Cynabal's getting a nerf, it's such a terrifying and viable ship currently (this is sarcasm)
Aglais Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 485	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:11:00 - [33] - Quote ...How's the Gila going to deal with smaller ships, with only medium drones being bonused? It's already at a huge disadvantage at defending itself as such because lol HMLs/AMLs. Very interested in trying out both Gurista ships revealed so far, regardless. Also the Phantasm.
ZoRDO ShoD Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:12:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rise wrote: The Vigilant bonus was a typo, it's fixed now: MEDIUM hybrid. The Gila bonus is not a typo, 500%. Errrr, so how much dps will it dish out with a flight of medium drones now? give or take a few? Oh, and nice changes, though im not a big fan of the pg nerf on the cynabal
El Space Mariachi Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 56	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:12:00 - [35] - Quote Viribus wrote: Hey remember when you guys introduced tier 3 BCs and no one ever saw Cynabals again? Then all those t1 cruiser buffs, navy cruiser buffs, and HAC buffs? Good thing the Cynabal's getting a nerf, it's such a terrifying and viable ship currently (this is sarcasm) viribus u need to stop taking ur sarcasmos .
Kaeda Maxwell Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder 291	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:13:00 - [36] - Quote 120 radius, hefty afterburner bonus, 890 base grid, now with 5 lows. In before quite viable armor phantasm. I doth approve.
Phoenix Jones Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective 459	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:15:00 - [37] - Quote Aglais wrote: ...How's the Gila going to deal with smaller ships, with only medium drones being bonused? It's already at a huge disadvantage at defending itself as such because lol HMLs/AMLs. Very interested in trying out both Gurista ships revealed so far, regardless. Also the Phantasm. I believe if you put on and overheat the drone omnidirectional tracking unit, it should be able to hit (or swap out valkyries). The dronebays enough to cover potential light ship harassment. I see the prices of these ships going up.. 100%. Overall.. they seem like there fine changes.. though that afterburner bonus is going to be nuts (scram no stop it, you better double/triple web the thing...) I won't go on the "WTF Did you DO NERF IT" bandwagon as of yet.. though I will if for some odd reason they manage to fit a 100mn afterburner on.. .a cruiser.. Stabbers are totally broken http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 712	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:16:00 - [38] - Quote Phantasm is underwhelming .. its dps is a little weak ... granted 5 lows opens up options.. its base speed isn't very impressive either could do with lower sig radius too.. Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Phoenix Jones Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective 459	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:18:00 - [39] - Quote ZoRDO ShoD wrote: CCP Rise wrote: The Vigilant bonus was a typo, it's fixed now: MEDIUM hybrid. The Gila bonus is not a typo, 500%. Errrr, so how much dps will it dish out with a flight of medium drones now? give or take a few? Oh, and nice changes, though im not a big fan of the pg nerf on the cynabal 2 mediums doing 500% more damage..... equal, if not a little better. The bonus here isn't the damage.. its the hit points. 500% more hit points on medium drones make them MUCH more resilient.. i bet more susceptible to focus fire (but hey that's why you have spares). I'm liking the drone changes so far, more acceptable than spam a zillion drones out, also making the drone-bay more targetted (which is a good thing). Stabbers are totally broken http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
Michael Harari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 1126	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:18:00 - [40] - Quote Still no real reason to fly a cynabal over other equivalent options. Also 90% webs still broken.
Angsty Teenager Broski North 270	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:20:00 - [41] - Quote Harvey James wrote: Phantasm is underwhelming .. its dps is a little weak ... granted 5 lows opens up options.. its base speed isn't very impressive either could do with lower sig radius too.. You're wrong, the phantasm is easily the best ship here now. Rise, you need to buff the cynabal, it's currently a crappy ship RIGHT NOW, as it is overshadowed by the vagabond which is superior in all ways. A long time ago the cynabal was good when it was the king of speed and damage projection, but now that we have taloses, t1 cruisers that go as fast as the cynabal, and ships that are more tanky overall, the cynabal is a very very lackluster ship.
MeBiatch GRR GOONS 1793	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:20:00 - [42] - Quote El Space Mariachi wrote: Makari Aeron wrote: Uh.....you just killed the Gila. you're mentally defective lmao 12 (twelve) effective drones + missiles damage bonus + resist bonus = dead anything but oh no it cant use sentries any more!!! Which is why we need small and medium sentry drones There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request
Viribus Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 180	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:20:00 - [43] - Quote Michael Harari wrote: Still no real reason to fly a cynabal over other equivalent options. Also 90% webs still broken, Vaga's better by pretty much every conceivable metric. Even price. i can't wait for the pirate BS "rebalancing" where they turn the machariel into a really expensive tempest
Flyinghotpocket Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica 306	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:20:00 - [44] - Quote why are you giving the ashimmu another low when it can tank a easy 90kehp without slaves? that litterly does nothing for it.... o yeah and like the pirate frigate thread. new ashimmu sucks. will never be used. etcetc read pirate frigate thread for details
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 712	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:21:00 - [45] - Quote i assume the ashimmu align time is a typo?? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Anhenka Daktaklakpak. Red Coat Conspiracy 507	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:21:00 - [46] - Quote Gila changes make me sad. Forcing ships into ultra specific niche is just awful. I mean, Gila was an excellent ship in many situation before. It was a decent small gang ship, excellent in WH's for clearing certain sites, was a poor mans Ishtar for someone unable to fly them yet in Ishtar gangs. And now... Ew. Medium drones are incredibly poor PvP above a few people, It can't field a single heavy or sentry drone, and not even a full flight of smalls, and those would be unbonused. Will be easily kited to death by a t1 frigate able to outrun slow mediums, and a 500% bonus to drone HP won't save them if a cruiser sized hull decides to pop drones. 4x the health of paper is still paper. And when one pops, you lose the vast majority of your dps. Just ew. Bleeeh. Need to go sell my WH site fit Gila to people who don't read dev blogs before summer hits. I honestly don't know what you have against the Guristas ships...
Jaari Val'Dara Wormbro Ocularis Inferno 76	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:21:00 - [47] - Quote Swiftstrike1 wrote: So under AB power the Phantasm will go approximately 1km/s without any nanos, links, boosters, implants, etc... I wonder how fast it'll go with a 100mn AB.... Just checked it out and 100mn ab phantasm with lg snakes and two nanos and republic fleet afterburner goes 3.79km/s. Though allign time is 22seconds even with low friction nozzle joints.
Capqu Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 427	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:22:00 - [48] - Quote phantasm is going to be the best ahac ever made cynabal is garbage ashimumum is boring gila is pretty cute vigilant still has its niche not the worst damage you've ever done with a balance pass rise, soild 6/10 keep it up pls plz can we have a rapid light bonused faction ship that gets a 10 second reload or double capacity thx http://pizza.eve-kill.net
Ashley Animus 7th Temporal Lounge 0	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:23:00 - [49] - Quote Oh, the gila never had a role bonus to light missile and rocket velocity. All this changing of bonuses around is taking its toll :p
Syrias Bizniz Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective 277	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:26:00 - [50] - Quote Swiftstrike1 wrote: So under AB power the Phantasm will go approximately 1km/s without any nanos, links, boosters, implants, etc... I wonder how fast it'll go with a 100mn AB.... Fed Navy 10mn AB + 2x Nano ---> 1650m/s preheat
Capqu Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 427	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:26:00 - [51] - Quote Ashley Animus wrote: Oh, the gila never had a role bonus to light missile and rocket velocity. All this changing of bonuses around is taking its toll :p literally copy pasted from the worm :^) http://pizza.eve-kill.net
Strata Maslav Born-2-Kill 84	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:27:00 - [52] - Quote The Cynabal has been overshadowed by T1/T2 buff and improvements in active tanking. The "OP" bias is a remnant from before these buff went live. This ship used to be my bread and butter but now why would I fly this over my Vagabond or Ishtar?
Anhenka Daktaklakpak. Red Coat Conspiracy 507	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:28:00 - [53] - Quote Also that Cynabal. -280 Powergrid? It was a fun little ship that had a few advantages and a few disadvantages compared to the Vagabond, though considerable more expensive. But now that it will require a fitting rig and cpu implant to get the same fit that many people now use? And a greatly increased mass that decreases mobility? No thanks. Vagabond every time. Especially since the last round of HAC buffs.
Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1821	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:33:00 - [54] - Quote I wonder if my prediction for Pirate Battleships will be right too...! New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection. Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9!
MeBiatch GRR GOONS 1793	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:35:00 - [55] - Quote a few small changes. first i would add 5mb to the gila so if it wanted to it could use 5 unbonused light drones. Second like most people the angle ships are kinda meh it needs some cool role bonus. by removing one turret and increasing the fall off to 75% and upping the rate of fire bonus to 7.5% per level you end up with a really cool and long range kitting ship or king arty. [quote=CCP Rise] ======================================================================================== GILA Gallente Cruiser Bonus: 10% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage (was 10% drone damage and hitpoints) Caldari Cruiser Bonus: 4% bonus to all shield resistances Role Bonus: 500% bonus to medium drone damage and hitpoints (was 50% bonus to Light Missile and Rocket max velocity) Slot layout: 5H, 6M, 4L; 0 turrets, 4 launchers(+1) Fittings: 670 PWG(+40), 400 CPU(+50) Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3200(+12) / 2200(-125) / 2490 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1400(+25) / 530000 (-1250) / 2.85 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 195(+31) / .66 / 9600000 / 8.78s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25(-100) / 105(-295) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 58km (+3km) / 285 / 7 Sensor strength: 22 Signature radius: 145(-5) ======================================================================================== CYNABAL Gallente Cruiser Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire Minmatar Cruiser Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage Role Bonus: 75% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets (-1), 0 launchers Fittings: 820 PWG(-280), 335 CPU(-15) Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2330 / 2300(-25) / 2065 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1415 / 490000(-1250) / 2.88 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 263(+6) / .45(-.0045) / 9047000(+200000) / 5.64s Drones (bandwidth / There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request
Capqu Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 429	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:36:00 - [56] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: I wonder if my prediction for Pirate Battleships will be right too...! its really not hard to predict macharial gets slight nerfs based on its performance in 2010 bhaalgorn gets nos bonus and keeps its web range rattler gets heavy drone + maybe sentry drone massive bonus but can only deploy 2 or 3 and a kin/therm missile dmg bonus nightmare gets an ab bonus vindi doesnt change much http://pizza.eve-kill.net
Denuo Secus 252	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:37:00 - [57] - Quote Wow, I really like the Gila change! Drone-kiting finally possible - also thanks to the medium drone changes? \o/
Ammzi Love Squad Pasta Syndicate 1719	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:39:00 - [58] - Quote 4 high slots on phantasm? But it has 5 right now, no? This needs to be noted in the post.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 598	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:42:00 - [59] - Quote Quote: Vigilant: Keeping the web bonus does nobody else remember that huge thread we had where we all got mad about webs, and in particular, 90% webs? I'm fairly sure some CCPs agreed that webs are stupid.
BadAssMcKill The Kawaii Corporation 709	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:45:00 - [60] - Quote TrouserDeagle wrote: Quote: Vigilant: Keeping the web bonus does nobody else remember that huge thread we had where we all got mad about webs, and in particular, 90% webs? I'm fairly sure some CCPs agreed that webs are stupid. What bonus could you possibly give the Vigilant other than that that differentiates it from the Deimos http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á

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