If DUST is pew pew in stations, I don't mind.

I'm sure you meant this sarcastically, but it is much more likely to be literally true than not. There is absolutely no reason so suspect any assets in Trinity2/CARBON would be portable to the UT engine or back, they are not built on one another or derivative in any way.
Even something as basic as textures will have a completely different way of being mipmapped, let alone any alpha-blends used to support surface effects, which we know CCP were creating from scratch in CARBON.
Not to mention all the design decisions you make with the current tools you have in mind, which will need to be completely re-created if you even try to do a 1-for-1 port.
One amusing example is league of legends - pretty much everything in the game which is a spawnable effect is made out of minions, that they stack and change the size of. On top of creating some dumb interactions, if they ever wanted to port the game into an independent engine/environment they would need to basically re-make the whole game from the ground up, since silly things like that won't port.

Can we just stop with the "just copy and paste!" nonsense, please.

It's about reiteration but they have been working on new stuff. Player built gates and uncharted solar systems, deep space exploration etc. Part of the five year plan. Reiteration and maintenance mode are two different things. You don't see all the new stuff going in or something? Only a Jita 4-4 doubler would miss it all. Or someone that just logs in once a month to update the skill que.

Well I am of the opinion that as far as CCP is concerned Eve is a finished game, as evidenced by the fact that we're moving from two expansions per year to 6 weekly releases.

These releases will probably add in the odd deployable or two, a couple of ship skins and some tweaks here or there, but the grand days of gameplay enhancing and game changing expansions are over as far as I can see.

Don't get me wrong, I still expect to see nice stuff come as a result of the new point releases but the Golden Age has definately ended.

Well I am of the opinion that as far as CCP is concerned Eve is a finished game, as evidenced by the fact that we're moving from two expansions per year to 6 weekly releases.

These releases will probably add in the odd deployable or two, a couple of ship skins and some tweaks here or there, but the grand days of gameplay enhancing and game changing expansions are over as far as I can see.

Don't get me wrong, I still expect to see nice stuff come as a result of the new point releases but the Golden Age has definately ended.

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A sandbox that would begin to revolve around drinking quafe and head-shooting some guy in station would probably become a space MOD for Second Life.

"dying" ffs and NO

And why is it necessarily a bad thing? The world of New Eden definetly lacks some diversity (it's just a giant definition of "copy&paste" idiom). It's hard to just make yourself forget about it and focus your eyes on shiny ships models all the time.. especially when you always keep your camera zoomed out - to enshure you have a decent situational awareness - to such a distance that you can't see them anymore.

A bunch of custom made structure here and there, a lounge at the station with some games to kill time while waiting for this blob to dissolve - those won't displace these precious shiny spaceships of yours, but will rather smooth the corners to fit current gameplay elements tighter.

The same argument can be made for including a Nascar simulator.

All this "tell me why not!" bad-logic needs to realise it's covering for "tell me why they should" - the compelling argument for which has yet to be given.

This is silly, really silly. How blinkered do you need to be to have not seen that CCP have a multi-year vision for Eve, which includes the enormous proposed changes of "make everything destroyable" and player-built stargates, and the rest of it? If they pull off half of it, Eve will change more in the next 5 years than it has in the past 10.

The quicker release cycle != point (maintenance) releases. Maybe look at the presentations instead of reading the crib-notes?

**** yeah. Put me down for $1000, I'm good for it.

Can't wait for adjustable bras!

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By your logic, then, eve has never had an expansion. I must say eve is doing well for an 11 year old game with no expansions.

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No it's worse than that. In your mind eve's only expansion worth mentioning in the last 11 years is Incarna. You know, the one that everyone thought was just the worst thing ever.

When I said like 10 pages ago that you would convince yourself of literally anything to hold onto your WiS dream I had no idea how right I was.

"no changes to the spaceships in this spaceship game could ever be considered an expansion. it only counts if you can change your bra"

What WiS needs is total removal from the code base so I can get several gigs of wasted drive space back.

Yet another straw man and a very poor attempt to conflate present conditions with previous ones.

I remember when eve had real expansions that genuinely expanded game play in new directions such as pi as I say those days have gone, and it's all thanks to the fis only crowd.

I remember when eve had real expansions that genuinely expanded game play in new directions such as pi as I say those days have gone, and it's all thanks to the fis only crowd.

What WiS needs is total removal from the code base so I can get several gigs of wasted drive space back.

So your real and honest opinion is that PI, a badly implemented and unfinished mini-game / RSI generator, that takes place on a planet, is more of an 'expansion' than changing the very nature of every asset (and ergo all combat) in Eve and opening up new regions of space and whatever is in them?

This is what you literally believe?

What WiS needs is total removal from the code base so I can get several gigs of wasted drive space back.

You need to ask yourself why ccp introduced all of these things in the first place as opposed to just sticking with ship pvp, the obvious answer is that they saw eve as something beyond that, a complete science fiction simulator, all I'm asking is that instead of guys like you holding ccp to ransom with threats to unsub and endless whine, how about you actually get on board with ccp's future vision and stop blocking their attempts to finish it.

It was just one example taken straight of the top of my head of an expansion that introduced new game play, but I imagine you don't care for that either

Sorry to have rushed you buddy.
Could you take your time, then, and think of an 'expansion' in the last 11 years that you are super-sure counts as an expansion? Because all of them involve "just changing ships and adding space and stuff" which you claimed isn't an expansion.

It can't be called an expansion when all it offers is the old gameplay in a new form