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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25641
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:57:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:This is exactly what I mean when i say that some of us are suited to (and like) the realities of EVE whereas others would rather it changed to the uninteresting 'mass appeal' crap that is the rest of the MMO world. I dunno... I think there could be a middle ground somewhere... maybe expanding the universe to other games will mix things up. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:58:00 -
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I often wonder what the people that cry CARE BEAR to anyone that does any type of non pvp activity would do if everyone just stopped and started doing nothing but pvp.
no more mining, no more research, NO MORE BUILDING OF SHIPS!
Without those people that you condemn to be care bears, you wouldn't have any ships to fly, nor any ships to blow up, so stop your senseless whining about people who like to do other things than blow people up.
Me i like to do nearly all parts of this game, i mine to build my own ships so i can pvp or pve depending on what type of mood i'm in, but cause i actually do some form of PVE i'm labeled as a a care bear.
To much time being popped seems to of scrambled the PVP'ers brains cause they fail to understand how this game works.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3995
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:59:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:I often wonder what the people that cry CARE BEAR to anyone that does any type of non pvp activity would do if everyone just stopped and started doing nothing but pvp.
Searching....
No such person found.
Would you like to play again? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -į-į ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25641
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:01:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:To much time being popped seems to of scrambled the PVP'ers brains cause they fail to understand how this game works. It's a certain mindset... a predominantly male one... but a discussion like that would blow up this thread.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6384
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:01:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Then she doesnt do the market, or mine in other people's belts then. Agh PW... my poor eyes and wallet
Really, that's the big thing. The people who play EVe whole hating EVE (and it's communty) are 'have cake + eat cake' people. They want all the excitement and fun but don't want to pay the price.
That's why they predicted that EVE would die to STO (now it's Star Citizen), they don't understand that the things they think they want to change are actually yhe HOOKS that keep them in the game.
(i've been waiting to use this analogy lol)
These people are like this girl i knew in college (damn it, was that really 20 years ago???).
So i knew this girl and boy let me tell you, she was hot. Seemingly nice girl, pretty, smart, ambitious. I instantly liked her and tried to get with her. And instantly got 'Friend Zoned' (though we didn't have a word for it in the dark ages lol).
So like any idiot, I stuck around to be her 'friend' hoping she'd come to her senses and eventually give me 'some'. So OF COURSE are her 'friend', i get introduced to every emo, thugged out, tatt'd up, insensitive 'only wants one thing' loser she meets and beds (because of course all she really wants is a 'nice guy', at least that's what she says while doing the exact opposite lol).
So when i tell her that she doesn't really know what she wants, I get rebuked. Then 'Mr Bad Guy' does what EVERYONE (but here) knows he's going to do and screwed her over. All of a sudden I had to listen to "why are you men always such jerks??".... Like her own choices have nothing to do with it.
Eventually, people like that get tired enough of getting screwed over and then get with a 'nice guy' (which even then turned out to not be me, remember, i was already friend zoned and no woman wants to screw her 'play-brother'......grrrr Chicks). AND then they get bored and in short order end right back in the arms of some new douchebag to start the cycle all over again while Mr nice guy is heart broken over it....
EVE is that douchy dude that gets all the hot chicks lol. it's because the hot chicks don't understand themselves enough to understand why they are attracted to someone who they also can't stand lol. Games like STO are the nurtuing good guys that the hot girl CLAIM she wants but in reality would just bore her to death with all that niceness and bland safety.
TL;DR. Miners are hot chicks. Go screw them, it's for their own good.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5885
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:03:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Decaneos wrote:To much time being popped seems to of scrambled the PVP'ers brains cause they fail to understand how this game works. It's a certain mindset... a predominantly male one... but a discussion like that would blow up this thread. 
The two most vicious people I have ever met in this game were both female. One of them, when I was a pretty new player, was a 65+ year old woman in a retirement complex. To hear her on comms with that sweet old grandmother voice yelling at us to "Get the mother****er's pod!" was always a trip.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-įPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25642
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:06:00 -
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Haha... hey Jenn, is it possible to simultainously love and hate someone? I think I do, right now! 
You made my day...
@Kaarous: I was generalizing again... believe me, I know some pretty vicious girls/women myself... they don't play EVE, though.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3995
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:12:00 -
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Shalua, I do like your attitude in this debate, and the fact we have all proven that we can debate in a civilised and adult fashion.
But I also just saw this and in someways it does nicely illustrate a little tiny part of this kind of discussion about EvE...
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10299065_645071955561064_6238235611275109301_n.png "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -į-į ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25642
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:16:00 -
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...ok, that's funny ...kinda.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |

Organic Lager
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
46
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Then she doesnt do the market, or mine in other people's belts then. Agh PW... my poor eyes and wallet Really, that's the big thing. The people who play EVe whole hating EVE (and it's communty) are 'have cake + eat cake' people. They want all the excitement and fun but don't want to pay the price. That's why they predicted that EVE would die to STO (now it's Star Citizen), they don't understand that the things they think they want to change are actually yhe HOOKS that keep them in the game. (i've been waiting to use this analogy lol) These people are like this girl i knew in college (damn it, was that really 20 years ago???). So i knew this girl and boy let me tell you, she was hot. Seemingly nice girl, pretty, smart, ambitious. I instantly liked her and tried to get with her. And instantly got 'Friend Zoned' (though we didn't have a word for it in the dark ages lol). So like any idiot, I stuck around to be her 'friend' hoping she'd come to her senses and eventually give me 'some'. So OF COURSE as her 'friend', i get introduced to every emo, thugged out, tatt'd up, insensitive 'only wants one thing' loser she meets and beds (because of course all she really wants is a 'nice guy', at least that's what she says while doing the exact opposite lol). So when i tell her that she doesn't really know what she wants, I get rebuked. Then 'Mr Bad Guy' does what EVERYONE (but her) knows he's going to do and screws her over. All of a sudden I had to listen to "why are you men always such jerks??".... Like her own choices have nothing to do with it. Eventually, people like that get tired enough of getting screwed over and then get with a 'nice guy' (which even then turned out to not be me, remember, i was already friend zoned and no woman wants to screw her 'play-brother'......grrrr Chicks). AND then they get bored and in short order end right back in the arms of some new douchebag to start the cycle all over again while Mr nice guy is heart broken over it.... EVE is that douchy dude that gets all the hot chicks lol. it's because the hot chicks don't understand themselves enough to understand why they are attracted to someone who they also can't stand lol. Games like STO are the nurtuing good guys that the hot girl CLAIM she wants but in reality would just bore her to death with all that niceness and bland safety. TL;DR. Miners are hot chicks. Go screw them, it's for their own good.
Well **** me right, I just found out I'm a hot chick.
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Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:54:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:I often wonder what the people that cry CARE BEAR to anyone that does any type of non pvp activity would do if everyone just stopped and started doing nothing but pvp.
no more mining, no more research, NO MORE BUILDING OF SHIPS!
Without those people that you condemn to be care bears, you wouldn't have any ships to fly, nor any ships to blow up, so stop your senseless whining about people who like to do other things than blow people up.
Me i like to do nearly all parts of this game, i mine to build my own ships so i can pvp or pve depending on what type of mood i'm in, but cause i actually do some form of PVE i'm labeled as a a care bear.
To much time being popped seems to of scrambled the PVP'ers brains cause they fail to understand how this game works.
Let's be real. If all the carebears disappeared tomorrow, that just means PVPers would start building their own ships and mining their own rocks. The reason we don't currently is the isk/hr is way too low. Hell, some of the best PVP was back when there weren't really any carebears and you were forced to mine in battleships so you could build stuff for PVP.
PVPers will adapt. If FW is making the best isk/hr and effort/hr, there you find PVE als of PVPers. If it's incursions, or C6 escalations, or supercap production, you'll find us. For PVEers, they'll mine despite terrible margins and build ships that actually lose them isk, and then when their income gets nerfed, they complain, and either continue doing the same thing or just quit. #T2013 |

Miichael Epic
The Neutral Zone
21
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:56:00 -
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Mining is fun when you do it in lowsec lol because its all a game of cat and mouse and strategy, which is the most fun part of the game for me.
Now I've been blown up A LOT of times...but only twice mining lol being as that I am a miner, have zero combat foundation or combat skills and have mined full time, on the dial since February....I've learned a few things lol
All of the miner gankers, are sorely...SORELY, predictable. Plus I love getting blown up by them....legit, it used to **** me off but now its fun. I get kill rights, I get to sell them to people and I make some money and then I get to see the kill mails and when they blow up my 30 million isk Procurer and then get pwned by the people I sold the kill right too in their 600m+ Tempest....ah, retribution feels nice. (fid TwicE anyone?)
I still think those who blow up miners are wusses...seriously lol no honor in that. However, learn some tricks of the trade and the gankers get to cry bowls of their own tears as they get to watch you warp away while they jam their fat little cheeto poof covered fingers on the warp scrambler button only to say DANG! THAT MINER HAS WARP CORE STABS! -RAGE- lol
Its especially funny when they warp in, cloak up and try to get next to you. That's pervy/stalkerish to me....I understand I look cuddly and all but I'm not interested in spooning with you haha but legit as soon as they hit the asteroid belt, you see them (or d-scan/overview catches them) and then you see them just vanish.
What's even funnier is when 'ol Michael Epic cuts his Covetor lasers, triggers the cloak of his own and also disappears and moves away from the spot where I was haha its hilarious to see the ship reappear in the spot where you were, sit for a minute or three and then warp away.
Last night I was sitting about 3000km above the guy haha had he went UP like 2 seconds worth he could have uncloaked me. Predictable gankers :)
Its much more satisfying to outsmart you than anything else. You have your ships, which CCP gave you and your ammo and warp scramblers and hybrid turrets and all that crap....and I have intelligence and savvy.
Gankers 2 Michael Epic 10 (so far)
You are slacking |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
121
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:00:00 -
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If you are in for ganker tears, roll a char, skill thrasher and a bit of gunnery.
Seek out gankers, wait until they strike and blow up the victims wreck.
Works better with gate gankers. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5888
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:07:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:If you are in for ganker tears, roll a char, skill thrasher and a bit of gunnery.
Seek out gankers, wait until they strike and blow up the victims wreck.
Works better with gate gankers.
Personally I suggest the Thrasher as well for doing that. If you split your guns, you can get the wreck and get the pod of the ganker if you are quick enough at it.
Although I know a guy who counter ganks in a T1 exploration frigate, for extra humiliation. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-įPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Miichael Epic
The Neutral Zone
21
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:08:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:If you are in for ganker tears, roll a char, skill thrasher and a bit of gunnery.
Seek out gankers, wait until they strike and blow up the victims wreck.
Works better with gate gankers.
I know....but I don't want to "gank" anyone. I have no desire to fly a fighting ship past a catalyst for factional warfare (if that's still around for Legion)
I like to mine/haul/manufacture and sell. My wallet is why I'm here and it needs to be getting fatter all the time. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3998
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:13:00 -
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Miichael Epic wrote:
I know....but I don't want to "gank" anyone. I have no desire to fly a fighting ship past a catalyst for factional warfare (if that's still around for Legion)
I like to mine/haul/manufacture and sell. My wallet is why I'm here and it needs to be getting fatter all the time.
Proc/Skiff, Blockade Runner, Jump Frieghter and Blops. The Quad of sensible industry piloting.
And Cyno Alts of course. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -į-į ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
122
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:If you are in for ganker tears, roll a char, skill thrasher and a bit of gunnery.
Seek out gankers, wait until they strike and blow up the victims wreck.
Works better with gate gankers. Personally I suggest the Thrasher as well for doing that. If you split your guns, you can get the wreck and get the pod of the ganker if you are quick enough at it. Although I know a guy who counter ganks in a T1 exploration frigate, for extra humiliation. Risking failing to kill the wreck. The pods are worth nothing for the ganker, but the loot i side the wreck... everything. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5512
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:23:00 -
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Organic Lager wrote: Well **** me right, I just found out I'm a hot chick.
That's not always as cool as it sounds.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
461
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:33:00 -
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Well, all areas are currently ahead of tears. Mining is just staggeringly so.
So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again? |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
123
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:37:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Well, all areas are currently ahead of tears. Mining is just staggeringly so.
So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again? Always fun to see how you are making fun of yourself without actually making sense... egokid. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5889
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:44:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Well, all areas are currently ahead of tears. Mining is just staggeringly so.
So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again?
Pat yourself on the back some more. I'm serious, just keep on chestbeating about succeeding at the single lowest hanging fruit in the game.
At least even NPCs, however lame they are, shoot back. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-įPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Dave Stark
5377
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:50:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Well, all areas are currently ahead of tears. Mining is just staggeringly so.
So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again?
tell me first, how the bar for each activity is set at an identical level to justify some kind of "superiority" for those mining rather than pvping, mission running, or manufacturing. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4001
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:52:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote: So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again?
What do you mean by this question? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -į-į ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
124
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:52:00 -
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Let's stop responding to this crapper.
All he wants us to do is feed his ego, so he can crap around even more.
Let's remember DE and Salvos for a minute here. |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1056
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:53:00 -
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Did anyone even check if the goals were set with good ratio? How amny average player-hours are needed to fill the full bar? For all we know, it's only a question of the PvP goal being way over average in requirement. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6387
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:53:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Well, all areas are currently ahead of tears. Mining is just staggeringly so.
So, tell me how Eve is about PvP again?
Sure, just as soon as you tell me what kinds of ships all that mined Ore is going towards building.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6387
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:54:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Let's remember DE and Salvos for a minute here.
SHHHHH, if you say their names 3 times in the mirror they will appear (and crap up the mirror).
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5514
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:54:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote: Let's remember DE and Salvos for a minute here.
How about: Gū¼Gū¼Gū¦ Gäū
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
225
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:55:00 -
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If you guys wanted a clear indication of what makes eve tick, I'd say miners do. Carebear miners at that. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
253
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:58:00 -
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Just because it is the middle of the week. People afk mine while at work/school. Weekend is where all the PVP/Missions take place. That awkward moment at the Gentleman's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money.... |
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