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Stanis	Posted - 2006.06.23 16:56:00 - [91] np I got it, that's why I wrote this last post. Even I flamed :D I just want to point one thing to you about the Maller <-> Thorax thingy, though it isn't the subject of this topic. Maller has TWO more slot (one low, and one high) and more PG then Thorax. So basicly what you are saying is that two slot on a ships < 5 medium drones in Drone bay?
Tassi	Posted - 2006.06.23 16:56:00 - [92] Originally by: God forbid Im Only amarr And Im allways thinking how lucky Im. Please ppl stop whining and start thinking out of the box.. Amarr Rule tbh.. We know that amarr are proud people. To say our ships may suck is like saying we have small ****s. But mate, this is a group therapy, you are allowed to whine here. Don't hide behind your pride, show us your tears.
CardboardSword42	Posted - 2006.06.23 16:57:00 - [93] Originally by: Imperial Coercion Originally by: CardboardSword42 It already can't. 5 Heavy Ion IIs MWD , Web Scram 3 Mag Field Stabs, a damage control and a Small armor rep There is a damage build for a thorax. Even if you dropped the 3 damage mods for 3 EANMs, you're still stuck with a small rep unless you use a fitting mod. You also can't fit a full rack of heavy neutrons and a mwd without a fitting mod. Oh the luxury of fitting t2 guns, web, scram, damage mods AND mwd. Omen: 4 Med Pulse IIs MWD II, Web Scram 3 Heat Sink IIs, Medium armor Rep, Adaptive Nano Plating II Maller: 5 Med Pulse II, Med Nos MWD II, web scram 3 Heat Sink IIs, Med Armor Rep, Adaptive Nano II, Reactive II I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Bentguru	Posted - 2006.06.23 16:57:00 - [94] Edited by: Bentguru on 23/06/2006 16:59:18 Originally by: Imperial Coercion Ball is in your court. ummm, no? Where exactly have you said anything other than varitions on "WAAA WAAA WAAA!!! I WANT ATTENTION!!! WAAA! WAAA!" Please, prove me wrong. QUOTE ME a post in this thread where you have actually said anything about how amarr are weak in any area. Anything pertaining to how an amarr ship is lacking in a department. The only thing you've said that comes remotely close is a variation on "crusader sucks." There's isn't a ball in my court, there isn't a ball at all. Try actually making a post beyound the mental intelligence of a 5 year old crying because somebody took his candy and maybe I'll pay attention to it. You continually make allusions to "The Point" when you've contributed absolutely nothing to this thread other than more whining from idiot amarrs without the intelligence needed to fly their ships effectively. -- New Petition Inc Vid This signature is protected by the pattented NoDev 2000 technology. THERE WILL BE NO COLORS But colors are fun!!-Kaemonn Look! Christmas colors!-ReverendM
Tassi	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:01:00 - [95] Edited by: Tassi on 23/06/2006 17:01:49 @Bentguru: there is already a thread on the first page with some amarr discussion and a couple of good points http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=355283
CardboardSword42	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:02:00 - [96] I do agree with the Amarr whines on two points: Omen needs a damage improvement over the maller Frigate guns need to have their fitting looked at. I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:08:00 - [97] Originally by: Bentguru ummm, no? Where exactly have you said anything other than varitions on "WAAA WAAA WAAA!!! I WANT ATTENTION!!! WAAA! WAAA!" FFS, youre a total troll. Here you go You : Quote: @imperial: Show me where the OP said anything other than "omg amarr all suck." ME : Quote: I dont belive thats what I said. Feel free to quote me. You : Quote: OP = Origional Poster. Not you. And thats exactly what he said, learn to read please. Hell, I never even quoted what you said in any of my points. Little self absorbed? Me : Quote: I can read pretty well thanks. You claimed that I somehow tried to argue against that You see, here I was forced to use a * because you have problems with a simple thread timeline. Quote: mmm, no? Where exactly have you said anything other than varitions on "WAAA WAAA WAAA!!! I WANT ATTENTION!!! WAAA! WAAA!" You posted rubbish, I quoted you and posted arguements against your ill informed rubbish. If you cant see this then I will petition to have your parents credit card blocked. Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!.
korrey	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:13:00 - [98] Well im back...I can see everything went well. Oh and A maller with 4 Medium Pulse II's and with your low slot setup would get murdered by a thorax or just about any other cruiser.
Jerick Ludhowe	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:16:00 - [99] I honestly think the only class of amarr ships that needs to be looked into are cruisers. The apoc has arguably the strongest tank of any BS, and the Geddon is one of the best mid range or long range fleet ships available in the game. Both the Omen and Maller have issues however I think people tend to make their problems seem far more game breaking than they actually are. The Maller is the most durable of any cruiser, and the omen is an excelent mid range dps platform, it also works well as a long range anti frig platform as well. Personally I think the only changes that are needed are a small cpu increse on the maller (no more than 10%), and a little bit more grid on the omen.
Cruz	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:18:00 - [100] Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe I honestly think the only class of amarr ships that needs to be looked into are cruisers. The apoc has arguably the strongest tank of any BS, and the Geddon is one of the best mid range or long range fleet ships available in the game. Both the Omen and Maller have issues however I think people tend to make their problems seem far more game breaking than they actually are. The Maller is the most durable of any cruiser, and the omen is an excelent mid range dps platform, it also works well as a long range anti frig platform as well. Personally I think the only changes that are needed are a small cpu increse on the maller (no more than 10%), and a little bit more grid on the omen. Please tell me what makes the Apocs tank any better then a dominixs? Or a Megathrons? Or an Armageddons? The CAP? Use a cap booster and your cap regen is worthless. Apoc should get its cap bonus switched to a resist bonus imo. --------------------------- For the glory of the empire!
Sniser	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:23:00 - [101] Originally by: Bentguru Originally by: Sniser lots of stuff ummm, since when were amarr drone ships not counted as amarr ships? lots of stuff nice the problem is with amarr gun ships? ^^ boo boo eanm t2 , fitting issues etc?
korrey	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:23:00 - [102] And the Omen, or as you call it 'mid range dps beast' couldnt PvP an osprey with Miner II's. The ship isnt any DPS cruiser its a worthless support cruiser that is no good unless youve got at least a gang of 5 and a tanking ship.
Bentguru	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:27:00 - [103] Originally by: Tassi Edited by: Tassi on 23/06/2006 17:01:49 @Bentguru: there is already a thread on the first page with some amarr discussion and a couple of good points http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=355283 yeah, i know, i've generally kept out of it because I agree with the good points. And Yes, I'm a huge troll. Look at imperials well reasoned first post in this thread! Originally by: Imperial You dropped out of high school didnt you? And my, completely obvious flamebait. Originally by: Bentguru As an amarr specced pilot, I can assure you that amarr does not suck. Geddon was and still is a terrific mid-range ship. Curse is omgwtfpwn, to put it lightly. Arbitrator can be scary if used well, I regularly own thoraxs with it. Crusader is an awesome inty. Apoc is a long range beast, and coupled with nospoc is very scary indeed. Zealot is definitely one of the better HACs. Pilgrim is like a mini-curse, so is also pwn. Lasers do more DPS then any other weapon. I fail to see why people are whining. Probably because they're under the delusion that their megapulse geddon should get right up against that blasterthron, or other such nonsense. Here's an idea, the geddon can fit 5 heavy drones. Stick 4 beserker II's and a webber drone in there. Keep your quarry at 20-28km range (depending if you have nos or not), and slam his ass with 3 types of damage while he runs around like an idiot with his head cut off because his blasters couldn't hit a moon at that range. And look, now you have an extra mid slot to fit a multispec or ECCM in! So go shove that domi pwnmobiles noses and ECM up it's ass Yes, I cannot believe I wrote something so-non helpful and flamey! Lets add these gems too. Originally by: Imperial Coercion Overmatch...are you being dense on purpose? You----------------------------------------------the point Yep Imperial was being nice the entire time! Why, he even corrected me on my distance from the point without ever saying what it was! And commented on my mental density too! Seriously imp. Your not argueing. Your posts are all varitions of "you're an idiot." I'm not a troll, I didn't start by insulting people. That was your terratory from the beginning. If anybody is being intentionally dense it's you since your acting like your actually making arguements and refuting my points when your only using the standard "No.. You Suck!" approach I last saw in middle school. My challenge still stands, quote me where you reasoned out why amarr was lacking in any area. Seriously, show me where you actually said something along the lines of "I disagree, XXX ship sucks because it doesn't have enough XXX compared to XXX.. etc etc." Quote it and i'll leave. -- New Petition Inc Vid This signature is protected by the pattented NoDev 2000 technology. THERE WILL BE NO COLORS But colors are fun!!-Kaemonn Look! Christmas colors!-ReverendM
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:28:00 - [104] Edited by: Grimpak on 23/06/2006 17:30:07 ok ok lots of flamage going on (in part my fault too. I apologise for that). to the amarr guys that want changes in the amarr ships: backup them with numbers and a VALID and CLEAR reason about it. oh and FYI, this is just a few facts from my experience: - amarr are supposed to be laser ***s with big tanks and low versatility (read: few mids), or so I learned in my 2 and half years of eve. - lasers already have built-in damage mods. now with those 2 points start discussing with some backing up please (my attempt to be civil omg!) ------- Originally by:** Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
CardboardSword42	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:29:00 - [105] Originally by: korrey Well im back...I can see everything went well. Oh and A maller with 4 Medium Pulse II's and with your low slot setup would get murdered by a thorax or just about any other cruiser. I was using that to show that you can fit t2 guns, a mwd, damage mods and a better tank than the thorax. It doesn't get a damage bonus so there are better builds that play to its strengths. The thorax cannot gank and tank. Imperial responded by saying it was some sort of miracle that it could fit t2 guns, a mwd and damage mods. These builds show that amarr cruisers are capable of doing the same. I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:29:00 - [106] Edited by: Grimpak on 23/06/2006 17:29:32 wtf? DP! ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:29:00 - [107] Do any of these thread starters consider the fact that they're just wrong? --------------- Vile - Recruiting 0.0 Pirates ---------------
Bentguru	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:32:00 - [108] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 23/06/2006 17:30:07 ok ok lots of flamage going on (in part my fault too. I apologise for that). to the amarr guys that want changes in the amarr ships: backup them with numbers and a VALID and CLEAR reason about it. oh and FYI, this is just a few facts from my experience: - amarr are supposed to be laser *****s with big tanks and low versatility (read: few mids), or so I learned in my 2 and half years of eve. - lasers already have built-in damage mods. now with those 2 points start discussing with some backing up please (my attempt to be civil omg!) amen to this post. -- New Petition Inc Vid This signature is protected by the pattented NoDev 2000 technology. THERE WILL BE NO COLORS But colors are fun!!-Kaemonn Look! Christmas colors!-ReverendM
korrey	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:35:00 - [109] brb. Im going to the test server, using your setup. and im going to duel a thorax (about as much sp as I have and see what happens).
Kyozoku	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:46:00 - [110] What the hell does a 3 month old character know about game balance? He's a member of isdf to boot! I'd wager the only thing he knows about pvp is being on the recieving end of it.
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:46:00 - [111] Originally by: Bentguru Yep Imperial was being nice the entire time! Why, he even corrected me on my distance from the point without ever saying what it was! Because it has been repeated a trillion times in 3 seperate, no make that 4 seperate threads. Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!.
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:47:00 - [112] Originally by: Kyozoku What the hell does a 3 month old character know about game balance? Wow......amazing. Are you new to EVE? Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!.
Bentguru	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:49:00 - [113] Originally by: Imperial Coercion Because it has been repeated a trillion times in 3 seperate, no make that 4 seperate threads. Ever heard of that saying about assuming? I'm talking about this thread, and this thread only. Contrary to to popular opinion I don't forum ***** much. So if your trying to make a point, actually post or link to it, else I'm going to assume you're a moron and treat you as such. -- New Petition Inc Vid This signature is protected by the pattented NoDev 2000 technology. THERE WILL BE NO COLORS But colors are fun!!-Kaemonn Look! Christmas colors!-ReverendM
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:49:00 - [114] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 23/06/2006 17:51:28 Hmm. 5 pages in less than 3 hours . --- The Eve Wiki Community Portal \| Eve Tribune
Kery Nysell	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:50:00 - [115] Edited by: Kery Nysell on 23/06/2006 17:51:59 Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Do any of these thread starters consider the fact that they're just wrong? Of course not After reading all five pages (and I'm sure much more will follow), I think it's a case of "WAAAAAAAA I want an Amarr I-WIN Button WAAAAAAA" ... but the Devs have repeatedly stated that they don't want such things in their game. EDIT : damn, new page while I was typing ...
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.23 17:54:00 - [116] Originally by: korrey This thread is for the Devs only. If none answer the oh well, I guess back to Battlefield 2 or World of Warcraft. This thread is also not another Amarr complaint thread. If thats what it turns into then Ill delete it. Devs, Tux, I dont care who. Dont you even see anything going on in these forums? Or too busy making Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente better? What the ** is wrong with you? Theres only 4 races in the game. 1 of them is insanely good. 2 of them are fairly good and even better with higher skills. 1 of them also sucks so morbidly its rediculous. Do you not see this? I would like a response from the devs. Just 1 if thats all you can give. But answer these. Why do you respond when something insignificant needs fixing but when 1 WHOLE race is screwed you dissapear? And why hasnt someone even once, just 'Confirmed' that Amarr are terrible? Do you even fly amarr? Have you even looked at them in the last month? I can see, whether it bee Customer support or just game developement...Eve is not the game for me. Its fun but things that need fixing most just arent getting done. A newbie/faceless alt doesn't really have the grounds to complain so harshly, and for the record, amarrr are/were fine. Maybe you never got hit by a gangageddon, but it wasn't very plesant, hell tach-gank setups can still hurt like a ***. If they were going to make Caldari better, they'd have given the Hawk a ROF bonus, instead of making it a niche ship with one, and only one purpose, and that's fighting inties, because any other AF is going to break it, and that boost bonus won't save them from an anti frig cruiser.
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.06.23 18:00:00 - [117] i ask that this tread be /clicked thank you ICSC Sales Forum
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.06.23 18:18:00 - [118] Originally by: Bentguru Ever heard of that saying about assuming? Sayings is for old wimen. And you obviously. Quote: I don't forum ***** much You should. It might stop you from coming of as a complete ignoranus. Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!.
Weirda	Posted - 2006.06.23 18:23:00 - [119] Originally by: Angus McLein Personally I think hes right. As follows. ...Do you fly Amarr wierda? Probably not. And if you do youve probably got amarr frigate 1 and thinks the Executioner pwns all. Seriously though, I fly caldari and Gallente up to BS so adapting isnt much of a problem. are you joking? yes - weirda specialize in amarr AND minmatar. so don't make assumptions. have been doing it for longer too - so probably why understand that you just have to MAKE a ship class work for you (it have NEVER done that on it own). the reason that this is crap, is that weirda have killed armor tanked Minmatar HAC since stacking nerf SOLO (actually it was weirda vs HAC AND their tackler - killed them both)... and not just once either (that happened to be the sweetest one though). and weirda was in NPC setup (LOL) - though always npc with a scrambler just in case... these were highly skilled pilots too, look it up if you want (not going to name/shame because that is not weirda's game... weirda didn't post those kills, they did). Quote: The problem is that numerous people eaech day are singing up to play EVE and at some of them choose amarr. So they get started in an amarr character, realize they suckr and either quite eve or if their smart, switch races. Not how you want you MMORPG to be played having people leaeve just because there main race is craptastic. And people have been paying $15 a month to spec in amarr with millions of sp in amarr ships and weapons...noly to find there many months of training and RL money were worthless. Again not a way you want your MMORPG to be played. this is where you are wrong. all that these whine post do is contribute to people thinking that they suck when they don't. when weirda signed up as minmatar just before they changed tracking (which hit minmatar hardest btw)... suddenly forum was awash with this kind of crap. honestly - seeing post about this or that suck, just make weirda want to try harder. as any good pilot will. now you have a lot of ppl being convinced that 'amarr ships sucks' when really they don't. tbh - that is the biggest advantage you can have in split second combat. too many pilot fly the flavour ship/setup of the month/week/year and jump from ship to ship like... well not gonna post bannable analogy... they wonder why they can only get cheap kills. they fish out of water every time they board their ship. if you are young, and you are amarr - stick with it. forum noise != reality on TQ. __ Weirda Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More!
Red Six	Posted - 2006.06.23 18:25:00 - [120] Why does everyone want a solo pwnmobile? Someone has as their signature a quote from Oveur that states something about battleships should not be that. Yet everytime one of these threads come around that is what everyone starts whining about. I can't beat X with Y solo. So what? Get a gang and work together. Domi got you NOS'd to death? Get an interdictor friend to bubble him up drop a few web drones on him and sit out in a tachageddon and BBQ him. No ship is perfect neither is a single race perfect. Some do better in fleets, I'm sure Krystal will scream if you mess up here Apoc, she's number 2 or 3 on the BoB killboard for all time kills and she flies an Apoc for the most part. She's very good at using a SnipApoc to roast people. It's not a Tempest but the SnipApoc has a good Alpha strike and decent rate of fire. Slap a gang together around them and you'll do just as well as if you had the same number of Tempests. You know what I really find funny is the lack of complaints in this thread from the Amarr roleplayer corps. If anyone knows how to setup and fly these ships they do and yet where are their complaints. When there have been issues with things they do come here and make their opinions know and they have not come in to complain. Mind you I haven't read all the Amarr is broken threads but the ones I have I don't recall seeing CVA or AM pilots in them, think on that for a second or two.

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