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Sniser	Posted - 2006.06.24 04:02:00 - [211] Edited by: Sniser on 24/06/2006 04:02:15 Originally by: Sarmaul Compare that with Tachyons where they have the second highest alpha strike (90% of an arti tempest) and far far higher DPS. "But Sarrrrr, the Apoc and Geddon will be facing 60% EM resistances". Guess what, Minmatar have the fastest lock time and will generally be shooting a ship when it's on shields. Oh look, 60% explosive resistances. The next argument I hear is "but people fit plates in fleet combat, so more time will be spend shooting at a 60% EM Resistance. Well, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. With base armour resistances factored in, the Armageddon, Tempest and Megathron do virtually identical DPS. Yes that's right, virtually idendical. The Apoc is a little behind, but it's a tanking/cap machine not a gank ship. Mega: 356 DPS with 3xMF II Geddon: 354 DPS with 3xHS II Tempest: 344 DPS with 3xGyro II It's the main reason why I've stopped bothing to try and get 1400mms boosted (well another 10 dps would be nice) - theyre perfectly balanced with the other guns in fleet. Their insane volley damage is countered by their poor ROF, much like Tachyon's insane damage output is countered by a 60% EM armour resistance. ok they may have nearly the same damage, now give me the range of megathron or tempest :D also their easy fit for taych ^^
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.06.24 04:52:00 - [212] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Asuzke Mitsugi So what you are saying is that amarr as a whole is totally wasted XP and, despite the megathrons problems with blasters for the past 2 years and the typhoons continuing struggle to be useful with its bonues or the scorpions one trick pony existance, the amarrian ships which make you hand over fist in PvE, damn good fleet ships as well as some of the best small gang ships in the game are rubbish? You must smoke stupid cigars. im galante spec u moron and the blaster problems was NOTHING in comparision to the amarr ship/weapon problems, the typhoon is one ship, and id say the amarr only have one good t1 ship! the AC boost/fix again is nothing in comparision to the current situation of amarr ships/weapons combination! good npc ships u say? who gives a ** about agent *s? good fleet ships you say, wait how many good fleet ships, TWO, the apoc and the gedden, waht other amarr ship do u say omg im glad we got one of these in our fleet! and im sure u never fly amar, u dont even know about amarr. give me a good maller setup *, or stay the moron of the week in my eyes another ban worthy post by you... this is getting rediculous. Originally by:** "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.06.24 05:02:00 - [213] Originally by: Weirda Originally by: korrey Alright ill get my friend and we'll await your amazing setup. Then test it against a real ship, as im sure you use it to fight of rats fairly well. weirda is a pvp pilot. period. ask around, just because Weirda doesn't call anyone who doesn't pvp 23/7 a muppet doesn't mean you should go talking like that. geesh, wish some curse pilot (enemies) would jump in here and at least speak to that... QFT if I want advice on how to PvP the buck stops here on any ship. Not personally met a better PvPer in this game in all my days. If anyone wants to insult Weirda they better be willing to back it up on Tranquility against her. And if you want to keep insulting her integrity then you are are insulting Team Minmatar as well and that isn't a wise decision. Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2006.06.24 05:39:00 - [214] Edited by: Frank Horrigan on 24/06/2006 05:42:50 I donno why people think amarrians suck.. mabye i just maxed all the amarrian skills.. I had a machariel.. sold that crap load for an apoc again. my zealot pwns anything it locks... thats about all I fly really.. a brutix is preety cool too though .. hmm.. bored... wanders out of topic Oh I will add, amarr have terrible DPS compaired to anything else.. My t2 zealot gets something like 275 dps.. with maxxed skills in nearley everything.. and implants.. however..a brutix can easily get more then that, and a better tank.. actuily.. a brutix can.. preety much tank a zealot.. as I learned on test server when one atacked me unexpectedly and I was preety much 50/50 with it.. but we have our ups.. we could use a 25% dps increase across the board really.. otherwise.. no complaints.. actily one.. we need FIVE armor repairer catagorys.. not 3.. we need small, medium, medium-large, large, Extra Large.. beucase theres a spot between 1 armor rep, and dual rep tank on both apoc and zealot that ***es me off.. becuase 2 reps and its a little too much tank, but not enough gained for the pg and other slot.. however its NESSISARY to recover some hp per second.. same with apoc.. but I guess that would put amarr ontop of everything else again. sigh* ballencing sucks..
Andreask14	Posted - 2006.06.24 06:01:00 - [215] Thing is: Amarr lost its DPS advantage. Loses the ECM war. Has always had the worst choices when ratting. Doesnt have any fancy toys on any t1 ships, and only a handful of good t2. BUT: Is still difficult to fit. Still locked to two 2 damage types. Still low sensor strength. Still eats its own ammo when tanking well enough. YOU SEE t2 ammo on other races might gimp your tank, or speed or something, with amarr EVERY AMMO gimps your tank. ________________________________________________ Just a quick reminder that "Local" and "Instas" will always be what they are.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.24 07:06:00 - [216] Originally by: Andreask14 You ppl must be kidding me, saying that its justified that the laser-ships of the amarr are sucking quite bad right now, and that i should adapt by training more. Isnt it ok, that i want to fly competitive t1 ships with lasers? No? It never has, and it never will be. Drones are secondary weapons on virtually every ship and need to be trained to stay ahead of the game. I hate training drone skills but it needs to be done. Like I said, if you honestly think this is something new and unfair on Amarr, look at the other races first. The fact that you managed to get along with so few skillpoints shows you how unbalanced Amarr really were. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Andreask14	Posted - 2006.06.24 07:09:00 - [217] I dont have less skillpoints than anybody else, and i do have drones trained. ________________________________________________ Just a quick reminder that "Local" and "Instas" will always be what they are.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.24 07:49:00 - [218] I'm a diehard amarr pilot, dreadnaught and all. Amarr aren't "broken." Yes they have their problems but so do ever race and i would still consider the minmatar to be the underdogs. BDCI Recruitment Officersig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Tassi	Posted - 2006.06.24 08:11:00 - [219] Originally by: Weirda but 'lost art of keeping a secret' is a Queens of the Stone Age song after all. O rly? @Sarmaul: You never sat in a geddon right? FFS wtf are you spitting out here? Of course you need to use your drone bay for versatility, but versatility in this game is ECM so I use ECM drones. We don't need high thermal lasers? How would you like to not be able to break a bs's tank in your geddon because he tanks with EANM t2's? Why don't you read the points I made up? No way to nuke them eh? Maybe these are really the issues? I really can't understand why there are minnies posting and 50% of it is bullcrap anyway. Get a geddon, fit it, try to kill domi's/ravens/tempests/megas with it. You will get kills, of course, but you will get raped if they have ECM or EANM t2 tank

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.06.24 09:04:00 - [220] This thread has gone far enough. Locked for flamebait. If you would like to bring something to a Dev's attention it helps to formulate a post/thread in a polite and constructive manner. Email [email protected] if the thread is being flamed/hijacked and we will take care of it. -Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!


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