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Hey all. We had a good run with our supers but sadly CFC caught up and now fights us on even footing, so I suggest it's time to finally fix those mechanics.

I'm pretty sure you're the only guy in your alliance who thinks that way.

I am quite happy where I am. I like nullsec warfare I like the idea of sovreignty and being able to take it from someone. I like epic battles with supercaps. I don't think anyone in this game has sat tackled and fighting with capitals than me. I love high intensity situations. Only nullsec can deliver that. Well unless you can tell me how to get a supercapital fleet into a wormhole. But in response to your condescending passive aggressive undertone go fetch yourself a book of shut the hell up with you're jumpfreighter ok , thanks great talk.

I see you can throw stones well but in you're superior mind do you actually have any real ideas that bring us to a endstate of revitalizing nullsec and deals with the power projection problem? Or are you just a naysayer with insults?

7 minutes across the universe sure is kind of stupid for a ship like an archon when an interceptor need an hour.

That in itself would do a lot to limit power projection since only smaller sized ship raiding forces would have the ability to get places quick.

How's that? You'd just bridge or jump Alpha Maels 100 km away from a bubbled fleet and kill them. For instance.

7. Make holding sov more absorbing.
- you have to fight incursions, if you will not , you will loose SOV in those systems after 2 days, and in order to get it back you have to achieve some few day objective
- local rats assaulting player operations , why not let them shoot poses , do mini incursions to take back their systems
( please don't tell me that SOV should be only about PVP - check in game map "rats killed 24h", most of the nullsec players are farmers. And this 5-10% population mostly focused on pvp will have much more targets this way , as players will have to defend their poses, fight those incursions , or uprising)

8. Make sov status depended on your activity.
The more rats you kill , the higher sec status (-1.0 -> 0.0 ) , so less spawns, and worst type.
If system is idle it have its status lowering slowly ( 0.0 -> -1.0 ) and at -0.9 you get a local npc pirate uprising , if you will not fight it within 3 days after sov drops to -1.0 , they are victorious and all sov infrastructure is going off-line ( rats will hit those structures , so eventually they will kill TCU and ihub.

Jumprdrives limited jumprange to adjacent system only. (lightyear distance is irrelevant)

We may simply have to wait for the rich coalitions to get bored enough to stop playing to the point where their sov lapses and hope beyond hope there is a possibility of reviving the game's numbers later on.

Yes, and that is a problem. Whilst one can argue (and I have) that this is a natural progression and that if you want to play in the big leagues you have to either grow into it or join one of the teams already in it, I can agree that it would be better if there was room for the smaller players.

So, there are a number of potential avenues to consider, some of which are:

1) Expand Sov Space - This is my favorite. If there was new space with significantly larger distances between stars that spread out from the outer boundaries of current Sov space it might alleviate the issue. The closer you are to Empire the easier it is to travel. The further out you go the less impact your jump drive has. Then shift nearly all the good moons further out making that the desirable space. It would massively increase the time for a fleet to get from one side of the map to the other. It would also mean that a lot of the space closer to Empire would be freed up as the current 2 massive coalitions took the more profitable space further out meaning that there would (hopefully) be space for smaller entities to take due to the distance issues making the big coalitions let go of the less profitable space. It would also mean that the better space you have the more pain in the backside it is to get to highsec and back. This is all off the top of my head so there are probably holes in it.

2) Reduce current sov holding through mechanics changes - This is rather intrusive and would likely garner complaint from the two main power blocs. Lots of potentials for this have been suggested on this forum and most have been soundly shot down.

3) Remove or massively reduce jump capability to enlarge the EVE galaxy by increasing travel times by a large factor - I'm pretty sure this isn't going to happen as it has WAY to many people against it, understandably.

It sure is a thorny subject though.

Hey mate look at this see what you think. This will not only solve the sov problem but also eventually disolve mega alliances or coalitions


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=356422&find=unread

1. Add new pockets of npc space having stations / create new gate connections that each SOV region have connection to NPC space

Hey mate look at this see what you think. This will not only solve the sov problem but also eventually disolve mega alliances or coalitions


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=356422&find=unread

Maybe we could take a look at how WH corp lives and the mechanics in which they live in? I'm not saying turn all space to WH mechanics, but maybe we can learn something about it, there is no "supreme overlord" of WH space, everything happens on a much smaller scale. These corp do not have access to a JF and yet, they still manage to exist, don't they?

The "little guy" that everyone keeps referring to has access to NPC nullsec. The problem is that there's not a lot of npc null, not enough anyway and what there is has become quite crowded. Which is why I advocate expanding NPC nullsec space at the expense of sov-nullsec.

If CCP wants more players in nullsec, then we need more NPC nullsec space.

To credit, though, it's spawned some decent discussion.

e: My reaction to Manny's set of suggestions the other day was about as vitriolically over the top as I feel his power projection changes are. The real problem I've got with it isn't so much what I feel are the bad ideas (NPC trader, hubs hackable in the way he describes, over the top projection nerf) nor the good ones (I like the notion of tying the other indices into sov more though not quite so much in the way he's describing) but in what it fails to really address or even apparently think about. Some of it got touched on above - ****ing over people living in deep null with no alternatives, no thought to upsides of living there. Some just aren't touched on at all - what's the carrying capacity of a system for player income, how does that as well as value of alliance income sources drive the meta (hint: extensively, at least in my opinion), is production based entirely on locally sourced materials really that feasible (up for debate), etc. So I guess you could summarize that all as "some good, some bad, but mostly just feels half assed."

To credit, though, it's spawned some decent discussion.

But no one from CCP responded.