Well , that's the difference between people looking for PVE or PVP content , and to what degree they want to have it.

If 10 alliances will just want to rat/ mine/ produce - nothing holds them from creating coalition that will have every one blue in region or two.

If you want to have skirmishes each time you login - you will do probably something different.

What will change when you compare this to NOW ?

Well big blocks have large quantity of space that no one use , they keep it because it is cheap when you include current power projection ( you can be every where almost instantly ).

Without this possibility , when moving to some timer will take you 2-3 hours, and will cost you adequately to LY you will have to travel most of the empty space will be free to take for smaller groups , as they by just living there will be able to take ownership of every thing valuable at first , and then the sov.

Let say that increased upkeep of constellation in different region cost you 25bil / month - it is far so you pay much more .
You get from renters 5bil and from the moons 30bil ( so this have to be very , very rich constellation)

Now small group move in , put poses, and camp the renters inside of the station.
Reinforce all income towers.
What will you do ?

Now :
- put 1-2 cynos, reinforce everything, and come at main timers to save your poses.
- if this small group will try something else more , they are in your hotdrop range, you need just 10 minutes to ping for the people.

After proposed changes:
- you will think , if going there is worth your time.
One way trip is 2-3 hours , will cost you 10bil in fuel and you have to stay there probably to be on all offensive and defensive timers.
You will have to calculate, how long you can stay there, and do you really want to come back 3 days later to attend new timers.

The question then is, why play in a way none of us enjoy?

If we all want the same thing, small/medium sized fleet roaming and good fights, why not make an agreement with the good fight in mind. Declare a deployment zone/Hunting ground (like catch right now) and put some loose mechanics in play to make it interesting.

NIP across the region, no towers to be placed from any external entities. Let HERO keep their space.

No fleets larger than 50, multiple independent fleets are ok. Hell you could even run NPSI (not purple shoot instantly).

Agreement to not use Meta-gaming such as the use of spies, keep it fun and spontaneous.
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It will take "EFFORT"
How much time you are willing to spend , just to hit someone?
Find enough people that will spend 2h-3h just to relocate somewhere.
Next find a good reason why to spend a lot of assets to do it - without possibility to earn more because of this actions.
I give you a hint : because people will want to have fun.

Yes you are right there will be people that will just wonder around eve and attack others - but that's about in this game.

As for smaller groups , well you have many blue in vast territory - few regions.
There are no jump bridges, there are no titan bridges , or they work in a way that you cannot abuse , or even use them as you are blue but in different alliance.

Capitals, have different range, different mechanic, they for example have to use regional gates.

Summarizing , we are talking about big relocation of assets , this is why this will take 2-3h , you are using gates ... something my go wrong, someone my bomb you , attack one of the groups while you are still moving by smaller groups.

Yet every thing went well .....
You and 500 of your friends arrived to save a timer on a r64 moon, you outbloob your enemy , so he don't attack.
You pomp the tower, restront it and start to move home.

This is next 2-3 hours of moving ops.
Enemy might chaise you , as you are using gates , he will hunt for stranglers, try to disturb your movement.

When you are halfway home , he drops dreads , and reinforce the tower again, and 2-3 more in the same constellation, but on totally different timers.

Nothing you cannot handle, but will those 500 people tomorrow again come to save those timers , and spend 4-5hours just on moving ops.

No one want to live there, as this is just far from their ratting grounds, and even more , in those 500 people fleet you are again missing 2 of your blue alliances - they just don't want to come as this is to far for them, and they live 2 regions away from you.

What the reason to have them blue?


What about roams?
Nothing will relay change , they are usually gate by gate any way , but when there will not be so much empty space , there will be more people to have fun with.

Why not just limit the amount of times a capital can make cross-regional jumps to like 2 or 1 per every 2 days ? That way they can be used in combat still, but couldn't, say, move from delve to tribute in 15 minutes.

I asked the question to some people on coms tonight, I want to ask you all the same question;

If we all want the same thing, small/medium sized fleet roaming and good fights, why not make an agreement with the good fight in mind. Declare a deployment zone/Hunting ground (like catch right now) and put some loose mechanics in play to make it interesting.

NIP across the region, no towers to be placed from any external entities. Let HERO keep their space.

No fleets larger than 50, multiple independent fleets are ok. Hell you could even run NPSI (not purple shoot instantly).

Agreement to not use Meta-gaming such as the use of spies, keep it fun and spontaneous.

Anyone that decides to try and screw up the fun and break the rules will have the entire CFC and N3 to deal with.

Each entity would declare a staging system on the fringe of the deployment zone, players for all factions would be welcome to come and pvp in a setting created by the players for the players.

Set our fictional differences aside, trust each other to turn EvE back into a playable game by working together to produce an environment/deployment that we can all enjoy without having to grind endless amounts of sov space and/or fight in heavy TIDI.

What an experience that would be.

Good Stuff

I agree. We have already seen this done with ice belts. WH are similar to a degree. It should be the same with everything else. Static, infinite resources produce laziness and complacency.

They fixed tech issue, but not the passive moon resource gathering. The article below was written 2.5 years ago. The moon passive collection can remain if we get rid of jump drives.

http://archive.evenews24.com/2012/11/29/a-letter-to-csm-7-back-to-the-gates/

During my CSM video blog series.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1aTNTzgdXsg

1. Remove Titan bridging.

2. Remove all jump drives in caps and super caps. Allow them to go thru gates / jump bridges and super cap pilots to dock and get out of their coffins. This will ramp up regional placement of fleets and increase regional fighting. This will return us to the back to the good old days of fighting. It would establish battle lines and increase troop movement. Supers are immune to bubbles but allow the focus beam to fitted to more class of ships but lack the bubble side of the mod.

3. Industrial ships can jump in a region only before having to go thru a regional gate and then jump again. They can not use JB.

4. EGGS, HuBs and all civ building should be made smaller and fit in a jump freighter. Fire gators can go thru a JB but jump freighters can't. Allow stations to go boom tastic

5. Give my black ops the ability to warp cloaked and you can keep the bridge and jump mechanic.

Manny when we were fighting together we use to chat about the good old days and how fun it was building a group and fighting the regional fight. The slow progression of a war and so on. Now do to the atom bomb (super caps and bridging ). The fun of war is gone and we a re now in what we call a Cold War. I hope they fix this soon and get this game back to the gates and re establish the game board of eve and make it big again.

I think this probably got overlooked but I seriously can't see any downside to this.

Why are you worried about death cloning.
This is so simple to solve.

For all lowsec/nullsec systems:
You can only change your main cloning bay to the station you are actually docked, no remote changes.

For safe reasons , don't change this mechanic for higsec stations.

So there will be no issue about people death cloning for some timer , and then going instantly back.

It's yet another variation of "artificially limit jumps" that can be completely ignored by simply owning multiple hulls or pilots. Any and all ideas in this vein are terrible and should be discarded out of hand.

It's yet another variation of "artificially limit jumps" that can be completely ignored by simply owning multiple hulls or pilots. Any and all ideas in this vein are terrible and should be discarded out of hand.

I don't mean to sound like a broken record here, but the "JUST MAKE IT SO THEY CAN'T JUMP AS MUCH" idea just keeps coming up. Frankly, I blame the rest of you for either failing to engage in critical thinking or for failing to read the thread.

I'm pretty sure every line member can't afford a few hundred carriers and a few hundred dreads to accomplish what they can do today with just one of each.

Such a change Wentworth III suggest would have a real impact. So please, stop the fear mongering.

And all the other alternatives simply break completely the game. I blame people sttuborn pushign the no jumps anymore in failing to engage critical analysis of the game outside your little bubble of reality.

I'm pretty sure every line member can't afford a few hundred carriers and a few hundred dreads to accomplish what they can do today with just one of each.

Such a change Wentworth III suggest would have a real impact. So please, stop the fear mongering.

The exact same can be used to circunvent ANYTHING you can think regarding power projection.