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![]() Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:44:00 -
[361] I talked to TRIGGER in MASS some time ago and asked what their policy on taking in new members where and if they whould accept a former pirate into their corp. The answer was yes and he even said that most MASS members are former pirates or mercenaries because those are the people that usually have most PvP experience. I'm ok with fighting SA and FA. I like PvP and they give plenty of opportunities for it. But don't come here and try to justify it because we were pirates. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:44:00 -
[362] I talked to TRIGGER in MASS some time ago and asked what their policy on taking in new members where and if they whould accept a former pirate into their corp. The answer was yes and he even said that most MASS members are former pirates or mercenaries because those are the people that usually have most PvP experience. I'm ok with fighting SA and FA. I like PvP and they give plenty of opportunities for it. But don't come here and try to justify it because we were pirates. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
![]() Zoraz Murdock |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:01:00 -
[363]
All will be known in good time. The low lifes at the Curse Alliance are some 21 corps. Should be fairly easy to crush. When all this is done everyone will be free to see the museum of corpses that will be on display in Curse soon. There is nothing wrong with enjoying ones work. *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
Zoraz Murdock Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:01:00 -
[364]
All will be known in good time. The low lifes at the Curse Alliance are some 21 corps. Should be fairly easy to crush. When all this is done everyone will be free to see the museum of corpses that will be on display in Curse soon. There is nothing wrong with enjoying ones work. *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
![]() The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:31:00 -
[365]
LOL |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:31:00 -
[366]
LOL |
![]() Zoraz Murdock |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:20:00 -
[367]
What a great argument. You must be a professor or something. -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
Zoraz Murdock Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:20:00 -
[368]
What a great argument. You must be a professor or something. -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
![]() Dakkon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:39:00 -
[369]
When have we been a pirate? Tell me this. |
Dakkon Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:39:00 -
[370]
When have we been a pirate? Tell me this. |
![]() dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:47:00 -
[371] Edited by: dalman on 02/10/2003 11:54:48 I can't believe this. The Reclaimer, do you find it very hard to understand simple things??? You're asking a question, and we answer it. Then you continue to ask the same question in other threads. The "3 pirates in MASS" you talk about has been answered in 2 threads by me, and in 1 by Rust. Ok. Lets do it again and hope you get it this time. Psychopath was not accepted by MASS 1man army was a MASS member. He then left MASS and tried the pirate life. He got bored and deleted his character. A friend persuaded him to come back. So he created a new character and was accepted. So: 1. He's not a pirate. 2. He's character is kind of a "n00b character". If you guys say "I don't wanna be a pirate anymore" and delete your chars so you have to start from scratch with no skillpoints, no ISK and no items, I'd believe you. Then there is Xen0. A well known pirate that we accepted. And yes, it's been stated that MASS may accept former pirates, that truly want to change themself. But it takes a big effort from the player, and Xen0 has been working very hard. Noctoz, what you said about most of MASS being former pirates... You must have got that wrong... But most are from corps involved in PvP. Myself and some more members are from a corp that did the same thing as Stain does... We "claimed" a 0.0 dead end system in empire space as our own. Then CCP removed all rare ore from empire space(which I supported), and our 0.0 system became a 0.5 system. So we had to go outside empire space to get rare minerals. And we had our first contact with the newly formed Stain Alliance. Some weeks later, all the active players in our corp merged into MASS. And yes, we attacked players in my former corp. Reason for that? Our main income was from selling Mallers. So when another corp started manufacturing Mallers 2 jumps from us we attacked them. Pretty good reason. Too bad so few corps want to do things like that. The problem you in Sinc are facing... It's still the same members in the same corp and you did no announcement prior to moving to Curse. You can't just move and when you're attacked say you're not pirates anymore. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:47:00 -
[372] Edited by: dalman on 02/10/2003 11:54:48 I can't believe this. The Reclaimer, do you find it very hard to understand simple things??? You're asking a question, and we answer it. Then you continue to ask the same question in other threads. The "3 pirates in MASS" you talk about has been answered in 2 threads by me, and in 1 by Rust. Ok. Lets do it again and hope you get it this time. Psychopath was not accepted by MASS 1man army was a MASS member. He then left MASS and tried the pirate life. He got bored and deleted his character. A friend persuaded him to come back. So he created a new character and was accepted. So: 1. He's not a pirate. 2. He's character is kind of a "n00b character". If you guys say "I don't wanna be a pirate anymore" and delete your chars so you have to start from scratch with no skillpoints, no ISK and no items, I'd believe you. Then there is Xen0. A well known pirate that we accepted. And yes, it's been stated that MASS may accept former pirates, that truly want to change themself. But it takes a big effort from the player, and Xen0 has been working very hard. Noctoz, what you said about most of MASS being former pirates... You must have got that wrong... But most are from corps involved in PvP. Myself and some more members are from a corp that did the same thing as Stain does... We "claimed" a 0.0 dead end system in empire space as our own. Then CCP removed all rare ore from empire space(which I supported), and our 0.0 system became a 0.5 system. So we had to go outside empire space to get rare minerals. And we had our first contact with the newly formed Stain Alliance. Some weeks later, all the active players in our corp merged into MASS. And yes, we attacked players in my former corp. Reason for that? Our main income was from selling Mallers. So when another corp started manufacturing Mallers 2 jumps from us we attacked them. Pretty good reason. Too bad so few corps want to do things like that. The problem you in Sinc are facing... It's still the same members in the same corp and you did no announcement prior to moving to Curse. You can't just move and when you're attacked say you're not pirates anymore. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
![]() Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 12:38:00 -
[373] Edited by: Alynthir on 02/10/2003 12:43:10 One of the most interesting aspects of this game is how dynamic and ever-changing it is. When the Coalition started a couple months ago, it began like most alliances: a mutual protection pact. We never imagined that it would grow to the size it has, or become locked into a war for control over the region. Personally, I am having a blast. All of this back and forth on these forums is barely 10% of what is going on inside the game itself. All of this has made the game FUN for me again, and that's really what it's all about. A lot of what has been posted here in this thread tries to paint what is going on in Curse as some sort of black and white issue. Well, as many on both sides can tell you, there is an awful lot of grey in there. Were it not for a few conflicting personalities and a series of bad incidents (which have all been covered ad infinitum in this thread), this war might have an entirely different face. Instead, I find myself in a situation where the Stain Alliance are my allies and I am fighting against people whom, up until a few weeks ago, I had more or less peaceful contact with. YOU JUST GOTTA LOVE THIS GAME!!! I've had some interesting conversations as well over the past few weeks. As I said in a previous post, there are some members of the CA that I'd rather not shoot at. There are a few people I've run into that I'd probably pod in real life given the chance, but it amazes me some of the convos I get from people who are my enemies that I get along fine with... until we enter the same sector. I often think of the situation in Curse as sort of a spaced-based version of the American Civil War. Fubie, my CEO, is constantly barraged with convos and EVE-mails now. Many are from corps weĈve never heard of, supporting the Coalition. Others ask for simple clarification on what we stand for. And, of course, there are the hate mails. Heh-heh! It's really opened my eyes to the fact that, despite popular belief, the players of Sinister and such are not all 16 year old geeks with mommy's credit card. Some of the people in the CA are fairly nice people. Some are not. But, the fact remains that Sinister and some of the rest started out as something no better than a real life group of terrorists. As another stated in this thread, you canĈt just wake up one day and say, ôIĈm not evil anymore! Those 2,000 pod kills were just a mistake!ö The corps of the CC simply DID NOT TRUST Sinister and her people and felt we had ample justification for not joining in the ĉdefense of CurseĈ. And then there is STAIN. Heh-heh. Unlike a lot of people, I have never had a problem with the Stain Alliance. I respect their borders and have done my best not to cross them in the past. Their arrival on the scene in Curse was not much of a surprise to me. When Nexus Enterprises first moved out to Curse, it was already a haven for thugs and pirate noobs in cruisers and battleships. I always thought it only a matter of time before our big southern neighbors decided to clamp down on the area. Many see the CC's stance as a just one and could care less how the pirates are eradicated, Stain or no Stain; other's think that the CA is standing against the 'Stain Invasion'. Regardless, it has definitely caught the attention of the galaxy and I'm enjoying being a small part of something so big. This is one of those wars that will probably drag out for a loooooong time. Both sides in this war think they are doing what is 'right', and despite what some have said here, the CC and the CA both have some very smart and capable pilots. I have no idea how this might end (truce, death & destruction, a server crash?!), but at least it's more fun than pointing eight mining lasers at a ******* bistot 'roid!! See you all in game! _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 12:38:00 -
[374] Edited by: Alynthir on 02/10/2003 12:43:10 One of the most interesting aspects of this game is how dynamic and ever-changing it is. When the Coalition started a couple months ago, it began like most alliances: a mutual protection pact. We never imagined that it would grow to the size it has, or become locked into a war for control over the region. Personally, I am having a blast. All of this back and forth on these forums is barely 10% of what is going on inside the game itself. All of this has made the game FUN for me again, and that's really what it's all about. A lot of what has been posted here in this thread tries to paint what is going on in Curse as some sort of black and white issue. Well, as many on both sides can tell you, there is an awful lot of grey in there. Were it not for a few conflicting personalities and a series of bad incidents (which have all been covered ad infinitum in this thread), this war might have an entirely different face. Instead, I find myself in a situation where the Stain Alliance are my allies and I am fighting against people whom, up until a few weeks ago, I had more or less peaceful contact with. YOU JUST GOTTA LOVE THIS GAME!!! I've had some interesting conversations as well over the past few weeks. As I said in a previous post, there are some members of the CA that I'd rather not shoot at. There are a few people I've run into that I'd probably pod in real life given the chance, but it amazes me some of the convos I get from people who are my enemies that I get along fine with... until we enter the same sector. I often think of the situation in Curse as sort of a spaced-based version of the American Civil War. Fubie, my CEO, is constantly barraged with convos and EVE-mails now. Many are from corps weĈve never heard of, supporting the Coalition. Others ask for simple clarification on what we stand for. And, of course, there are the hate mails. Heh-heh! It's really opened my eyes to the fact that, despite popular belief, the players of Sinister and such are not all 16 year old geeks with mommy's credit card. Some of the people in the CA are fairly nice people. Some are not. But, the fact remains that Sinister and some of the rest started out as something no better than a real life group of terrorists. As another stated in this thread, you canĈt just wake up one day and say, ôIĈm not evil anymore! Those 2,000 pod kills were just a mistake!ö The corps of the CC simply DID NOT TRUST Sinister and her people and felt we had ample justification for not joining in the ĉdefense of CurseĈ. And then there is STAIN. Heh-heh. Unlike a lot of people, I have never had a problem with the Stain Alliance. I respect their borders and have done my best not to cross them in the past. Their arrival on the scene in Curse was not much of a surprise to me. When Nexus Enterprises first moved out to Curse, it was already a haven for thugs and pirate noobs in cruisers and battleships. I always thought it only a matter of time before our big southern neighbors decided to clamp down on the area. Many see the CC's stance as a just one and could care less how the pirates are eradicated, Stain or no Stain; other's think that the CA is standing against the 'Stain Invasion'. Regardless, it has definitely caught the attention of the galaxy and I'm enjoying being a small part of something so big. This is one of those wars that will probably drag out for a loooooong time. Both sides in this war think they are doing what is 'right', and despite what some have said here, the CC and the CA both have some very smart and capable pilots. I have no idea how this might end (truce, death & destruction, a server crash?!), but at least it's more fun than pointing eight mining lasers at a ******* bistot 'roid!! See you all in game! _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
![]() Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.10.02 15:38:00 -
[375] Well said Alynthir........ --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.02 15:38:00 -
[376] Well said Alynthir........ --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
![]() Desiato |
Posted - 2003.10.02 16:28:00 -
[377] I agree, this has made the game fun again. I have never really taken part in much PvP but I think I will get the opportunity now. I intend to enjoy it far more than those people that just sit around hurling insults at each other. Its a game, have fun with it! |
Desiato Cirrius Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 16:28:00 -
[378] I agree, this has made the game fun again. I have never really taken part in much PvP but I think I will get the opportunity now. I intend to enjoy it far more than those people that just sit around hurling insults at each other. Its a game, have fun with it! |
![]() Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.02 17:07:00 -
[379] Edited by: Ramuis on 02/10/2003 17:07:36
No I understand, I wasn't to fond of sinister joining the alliance in the first place but my ceo said to give them a chance and we did... Now pirating is as far as i understand people killing other people just to get their goods or trying to get protection money from them. I know this is a very grey area but lets just try to think at it this way. I havenĈt heard of a sinister pirating since they joined CA and at least 14 days has passed. I know this isn't that long but still they are trying to do something different. I cant give you any other demonstration. Dakko, I've only heard evol where pirating a long time ago, before FA was created. If I'm wrong then sry to have dragged evol's name into this.
Uhhh, how I just love being called a lowlife from corps who wouldn't even stand up for their beliefs while they where part of an alliance! Why didn't you protest to the presence of former pirate corps in curse when you joined in the first place?? Only thing that comes to my mind is that it is people who follow the stream. When you joined CA it looked fairly well for us, when it started to look bad you turned on us. So next time you call someone people lowlifes please think about your own actions
dalman, this would be a solution but would you do it for any reason at all. You have used about 3-4 months and got something around 3mill skillpoints. It will all be lost and you can start up in your noob frigat. It'll take at least a month before you could start earning some fair isk. Without knowing I dont think 1man army had that many skill points when he made a new char. Alynthir, yup this sure have started eve up again, it was starting to get where you simply looked forward to this and that bug getting fixed Ohhh, these board really take a lot of ones time, better get in and play eve |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 17:07:00 -
[380] Edited by: Ramuis on 02/10/2003 17:07:36
No I understand, I wasn't to fond of sinister joining the alliance in the first place but my ceo said to give them a chance and we did... Now pirating is as far as i understand people killing other people just to get their goods or trying to get protection money from them. I know this is a very grey area but lets just try to think at it this way. I havenĈt heard of a sinister pirating since they joined CA and at least 14 days has passed. I know this isn't that long but still they are trying to do something different. I cant give you any other demonstration. Dakko, I've only heard evol where pirating a long time ago, before FA was created. If I'm wrong then sry to have dragged evol's name into this.
Uhhh, how I just love being called a lowlife from corps who wouldn't even stand up for their beliefs while they where part of an alliance! Why didn't you protest to the presence of former pirate corps in curse when you joined in the first place?? Only thing that comes to my mind is that it is people who follow the stream. When you joined CA it looked fairly well for us, when it started to look bad you turned on us. So next time you call someone people lowlifes please think about your own actions
dalman, this would be a solution but would you do it for any reason at all. You have used about 3-4 months and got something around 3mill skillpoints. It will all be lost and you can start up in your noob frigat. It'll take at least a month before you could start earning some fair isk. Without knowing I dont think 1man army had that many skill points when he made a new char. Alynthir, yup this sure have started eve up again, it was starting to get where you simply looked forward to this and that bug getting fixed Ohhh, these board really take a lot of ones time, better get in and play eve |
![]() Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 18:14:00 -
[381]
HEY!!! We're ALL NICE! Seriously, at the end of the day, it IS just a game. But, *steps back into character*, I just wanted to take a moment to clear something up. There seems to be this thought among many people in the CA that I've spoken with that the members of the CC actually MERGED with the CA with the intention of being partners or what have you with Sinister. This is not what I know to be true. I could go into a chronology, but what would be the point? Reclmaier will just come along and give us all a good laugh again! Basically, once we realized that Sinister was going to be setting up shop in Curse, the member corps of the Coalition knew that we would not be able to honor any sort of alliance with the CA. Even if Nexus wanted to, we had several other corps to answer to. So, the decision was made that we would declare our break from the CA and Sinister. Bottom line: the CC was "allied" with the CA for all of four or five days while the CC member corps tried to decide exactly what we wanted to do about the situation. Once a consensus was reached, Fubie made this post. That is what happened from my POV in a nutshell. Sure, there is a lot stuff that happened in between, but this is the meat of it. Any attempt to complicate or assign further motives to the CC's actions is pure speculation. Okay, enough commentary. I think this thread has served it's purpose and I'm done here. If anyone wishes to ask me about the CC or whatever, feel free to convo me in game. If I'm not under fire or launching torps at someone, I should have time to talk. Later, all. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 18:14:00 -
[382]
HEY!!! We're ALL NICE! Seriously, at the end of the day, it IS just a game. But, *steps back into character*, I just wanted to take a moment to clear something up. There seems to be this thought among many people in the CA that I've spoken with that the members of the CC actually MERGED with the CA with the intention of being partners or what have you with Sinister. This is not what I know to be true. I could go into a chronology, but what would be the point? Reclmaier will just come along and give us all a good laugh again! Basically, once we realized that Sinister was going to be setting up shop in Curse, the member corps of the Coalition knew that we would not be able to honor any sort of alliance with the CA. Even if Nexus wanted to, we had several other corps to answer to. So, the decision was made that we would declare our break from the CA and Sinister. Bottom line: the CC was "allied" with the CA for all of four or five days while the CC member corps tried to decide exactly what we wanted to do about the situation. Once a consensus was reached, Fubie made this post. That is what happened from my POV in a nutshell. Sure, there is a lot stuff that happened in between, but this is the meat of it. Any attempt to complicate or assign further motives to the CC's actions is pure speculation. Okay, enough commentary. I think this thread has served it's purpose and I'm done here. If anyone wishes to ask me about the CC or whatever, feel free to convo me in game. If I'm not under fire or launching torps at someone, I should have time to talk. Later, all. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
![]() dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:17:00 -
[383]
No, I'd never delete my char. Or think about starting a new one. And I don't expect anyone to do that. It was a responce to the guy who needs to get his questions answered at least 4 times before he understands( = The Reclaimer), since he continue to talk about the "dangerous pirate 1man army" who's in our corp. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:17:00 -
[384]
No, I'd never delete my char. Or think about starting a new one. And I don't expect anyone to do that. It was a responce to the guy who needs to get his questions answered at least 4 times before he understands( = The Reclaimer), since he continue to talk about the "dangerous pirate 1man army" who's in our corp. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
![]() Stavros |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[385] Here we can see a brief cronology of the history of curse in recent times. Curse alliance formed, curse coalition corps do feck all but ***** abit. Curse comes under attack from stain and evolution hurrah! Curse coaltion break away, world takes 2 weeks to notice the difference. Curse alliance gets bored and but rapes curse coaltion. The end OMG ITS NEARLY THE LAST NIGHT OF FLAMING! Stav -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[386] Here we can see a brief cronology of the history of curse in recent times. Curse alliance formed, curse coalition corps do feck all but ***** abit. Curse comes under attack from stain and evolution hurrah! Curse coaltion break away, world takes 2 weeks to notice the difference. Curse alliance gets bored and but rapes curse coaltion. The end OMG ITS NEARLY THE LAST NIGHT OF FLAMING! Stav -- "DANCE DANCE" |
![]() Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:40:00 -
[387]
3 things you leave out that I think is of great importance. 1. Before CC joined or merged with CA nexus and birds of prey where at war with CA. When Sinister came to curse and stopped attacking the CA members CC merged and thereby nexus and birds of prey avoided a war. 2. You joined the CA in under 1 day fully knowing there where former pirate corps in the CA. Then it takes 4-5 days to find out the rest of your alliance dont want to be in an alliance with former pirate corps. Maybe you should have talked with your alliance before joining... 3. When you leave the CA you throw around alot of big words like, all of the CA are pirating and killing your corp m8's but no evidence of this. IMHO, backstabing... I'm a bit sad you dont want to talk about your decision, but well thats the easy thing to do. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:40:00 -
[388]
3 things you leave out that I think is of great importance. 1. Before CC joined or merged with CA nexus and birds of prey where at war with CA. When Sinister came to curse and stopped attacking the CA members CC merged and thereby nexus and birds of prey avoided a war. 2. You joined the CA in under 1 day fully knowing there where former pirate corps in the CA. Then it takes 4-5 days to find out the rest of your alliance dont want to be in an alliance with former pirate corps. Maybe you should have talked with your alliance before joining... 3. When you leave the CA you throw around alot of big words like, all of the CA are pirating and killing your corp m8's but no evidence of this. IMHO, backstabing... I'm a bit sad you dont want to talk about your decision, but well thats the easy thing to do. |
![]() Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:14:00 -
[389] Wasn't planning on it, but..
Dude... I seriously DO NOT know what you are talking about. Nexus and Bird of Prey were never at war with anyone. In fact, as the Coalition was first forming, it was brought to our attention that there was another Alliance in Curse as well. Cyndal (the other Nexus Director) and myself introduced ourselves and stated our intentions, etc... Prior to this meeting, no one in Nexus was even aware there was another Alliance in Curse and we'd been there for nearly two months. What resulted from that first meeting, and meetings over the next couple days, was the Eventide Treaty, so named for the channel we spoke in. Effectively, both alliances agreed to pretty much mind thier own buisness and that the Red Corsairs would leave CC corps alone and we would stop hunting them. The initial meetings were a bit tense at times, but at no point during these initial negotiations did WAR or any other hostilities ever break out. It was not until just a few days ago that I fired a shot in anger, or was shot at, by a CA member. At the time, Nexus and Birds of Prey constitued about 19% of the Coalition's total numbers. Today that figure is in the single digits. My point is that you say we joined to avoid a war? Why would we do that? Because we were afraid? Afraid of what exactly? I think my biggest issue with this point is that you are saying it like it's fact. I was there when the initial talks with the original CA took place with STK and RC, etc... and I was shooting at NO ONE other than Red Corsairs and a few other assorted lowlifes (Space Pills, S*****rdly) at the time. I know you weren't in the Eventide Channel. Until these posts, I've never heard of / seen you. So where are you getting this bogus information from? Forget all the rest because if you believe point one to be true, there is no reason to respond to points two and three. If your first point is what the CA is telling it's corp members happened, then it's no wonder that there's so much confusion. Is the above simply your interpretation of events or is this what Xirtam and the others have been feeding thier people? I'm VERY curious about this because, Ramius, you seem like a pretty smart guy. Your arguments are presented without a lot of rhetoric and I can respect that, hence my return to this thread. But I'm telling you that your most basic information is flawed. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:14:00 -
[390] Wasn't planning on it, but..
Dude... I seriously DO NOT know what you are talking about. Nexus and Bird of Prey were never at war with anyone. In fact, as the Coalition was first forming, it was brought to our attention that there was another Alliance in Curse as well. Cyndal (the other Nexus Director) and myself introduced ourselves and stated our intentions, etc... Prior to this meeting, no one in Nexus was even aware there was another Alliance in Curse and we'd been there for nearly two months. What resulted from that first meeting, and meetings over the next couple days, was the Eventide Treaty, so named for the channel we spoke in. Effectively, both alliances agreed to pretty much mind thier own buisness and that the Red Corsairs would leave CC corps alone and we would stop hunting them. The initial meetings were a bit tense at times, but at no point during these initial negotiations did WAR or any other hostilities ever break out. It was not until just a few days ago that I fired a shot in anger, or was shot at, by a CA member. At the time, Nexus and Birds of Prey constitued about 19% of the Coalition's total numbers. Today that figure is in the single digits. My point is that you say we joined to avoid a war? Why would we do that? Because we were afraid? Afraid of what exactly? I think my biggest issue with this point is that you are saying it like it's fact. I was there when the initial talks with the original CA took place with STK and RC, etc... and I was shooting at NO ONE other than Red Corsairs and a few other assorted lowlifes (Space Pills, S*****rdly) at the time. I know you weren't in the Eventide Channel. Until these posts, I've never heard of / seen you. So where are you getting this bogus information from? Forget all the rest because if you believe point one to be true, there is no reason to respond to points two and three. If your first point is what the CA is telling it's corp members happened, then it's no wonder that there's so much confusion. Is the above simply your interpretation of events or is this what Xirtam and the others have been feeding thier people? I'm VERY curious about this because, Ramius, you seem like a pretty smart guy. Your arguments are presented without a lot of rhetoric and I can respect that, hence my return to this thread. But I'm telling you that your most basic information is flawed. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 ![]() |
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