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 Fubie    |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:24:00 -
[1] After a meeting of the CEOs of the Curse Coalition it was decided yesterday to sever all ties with the outlaw pirate alliance known as the Curse Alliance. A short time back the Curse Coalition was approached by members of the infamous Sinister Corporation. At that time Sinister communicated they and other pirate organizations would like to cease their illegal pirate activities and help setup a regional alliance so they could operate as a legitimate business. A cease fire was declared between the pirates in the old Curse Alliance and the legitimate honest corporations of the Curse Coalition and a new alliance was formed. Keeping with the tenants of the Curse Coalition we welcome anyone into Curse that is willing to operate peacefully and not commit acts of piracy. Since the creation of the Curse Alliance there has been nothing but bloodshed and piracy in and near the Curse region and a war of aggression has been launched by the Curse Alliance against the Stain Alliance. Honest pilots leaving empire space regardless of their destination have been set upon by pirates in the Curse Alliance. Innocent ships passing near Curse have been attacked and destroyed. Sinister and other pirates in the Alliance continue to operate blockades in other regions of space committing wanton acts of piracy. Members of the Curse Alliance routinely shoot at one another and deny the incidents ever happened. The Curse region has turned into a lawless anarchy run by pirates and scum from all over the universe. By severing ties with the Curse Alliance, The Curse Coalition has reaffirmed their commitment to keeping the Curse Region open space to all and free from pirates and the other scum that support them. The Curse Coalition considers members of the Stain and Fountain Alliances as friends and recognizes their right to self defense and will aid them in any way possible to rid the region of the pirate alliance known as the Curse Alliance. A state of war is now in effect between the Curse Coalition and the Curse Alliance. The Curse Coalition is urging all pilots to steer clear of the Curse and surrounding regions until such time that peace and order can be restored in Curse. The Curse Coalition is urging other honest corporations that have fallen in with the Curse Alliance to reconsider their position and join forces with the Curse Coalition to rid the region of the tyrannical scum of the Curse Alliance. ------------------------- |
 Fubie Amarr Nexus Enterprises |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:24:00 -
[2] After a meeting of the CEOs of the Curse Coalition it was decided yesterday to sever all ties with the outlaw pirate alliance known as the Curse Alliance. A short time back the Curse Coalition was approached by members of the infamous Sinister Corporation. At that time Sinister communicated they and other pirate organizations would like to cease their illegal pirate activities and help setup a regional alliance so they could operate as a legitimate business. A cease fire was declared between the pirates in the old Curse Alliance and the legitimate honest corporations of the Curse Coalition and a new alliance was formed. Keeping with the tenants of the Curse Coalition we welcome anyone into Curse that is willing to operate peacefully and not commit acts of piracy. Since the creation of the Curse Alliance there has been nothing but bloodshed and piracy in and near the Curse region and a war of aggression has been launched by the Curse Alliance against the Stain Alliance. Honest pilots leaving empire space regardless of their destination have been set upon by pirates in the Curse Alliance. Innocent ships passing near Curse have been attacked and destroyed. Sinister and other pirates in the Alliance continue to operate blockades in other regions of space committing wanton acts of piracy. Members of the Curse Alliance routinely shoot at one another and deny the incidents ever happened. The Curse region has turned into a lawless anarchy run by pirates and scum from all over the universe. By severing ties with the Curse Alliance, The Curse Coalition has reaffirmed their commitment to keeping the Curse Region open space to all and free from pirates and the other scum that support them. The Curse Coalition considers members of the Stain and Fountain Alliances as friends and recognizes their right to self defense and will aid them in any way possible to rid the region of the pirate alliance known as the Curse Alliance. A state of war is now in effect between the Curse Coalition and the Curse Alliance. The Curse Coalition is urging all pilots to steer clear of the Curse and surrounding regions until such time that peace and order can be restored in Curse. The Curse Coalition is urging other honest corporations that have fallen in with the Curse Alliance to reconsider their position and join forces with the Curse Coalition to rid the region of the tyrannical scum of the Curse Alliance. ------------------------- |
 Jeff Sudbury |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:42:00 -
[3] *yawn*  |
 Jeff Sudbury |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:42:00 -
[4] *yawn* |
 dalman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:45:00 -
[5] I'm glad to see this official announcement where the honest corps in Curse take a stand.  M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
 dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:45:00 -
[6] I'm glad to see this official announcement where the honest corps in Curse take a stand. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
 Redan Chulipa |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:57:00 -
[7] Typing that foot long declaration emancipation you could at least include the member corporations on each side. |
 Redan Chulipa Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 03:57:00 -
[8] Typing that foot long declaration emancipation you could at least include the member corporations on each side. |
Enraku Reynolt |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:00:00 -
[9] some of their members leave the CA tag off and attack without warning in Empire controled low sec space too ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
 Enraku Reynolt Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:00:00 -
[10] some of their members leave the CA tag off and attack without warning in Empire controled low sec space too ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
 Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:04:00 -
[11] Edited by: Dobbo on 29/09/2003 04:36:20 Oh, ok, Enraku.  --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
 Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:04:00 -
[12] Edited by: Dobbo on 29/09/2003 04:36:20 Oh, ok, Enraku. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
 Duke Droklar |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:25:00 -
[13] Omega Corp of the SA welcomes the thought of an honorable Curse Coalition. |
 Duke Droklar Omega Corp |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:25:00 -
[14] Omega Corp of the SA welcomes the thought of an honorable Curse Coalition. |
High Priestess |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:37:00 -
[15] Can you post a list of the corporations in both the Curse Coalition and the Curse Alliance so we know who to watch out for and who to treat as friends? Thank you. |
 High Priestess Amarr Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:37:00 -
[16] Can you post a list of the corporations in both the Curse Coalition and the Curse Alliance so we know who to watch out for and who to treat as friends? Thank you. |
 Fubie |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:44:00 -
[17] The list is kind of long, But If you check descriptions you'll see ***Proud members of The Curse Coalition*** At the top of the description. ------------------------- |
Fubie Amarr Nexus Enterprises |
Posted - 2003.09.29 04:44:00 -
[18] The list is kind of long, But If you check descriptions you'll see ***Proud members of The Curse Coalition*** At the top of the description. ------------------------- |
Sarkos |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:12:00 -
[19] Fubie; What have you been smoking? If you wish to leave, then do so. If the Stain Alliance has made you and offer, then why backstab the others here. There has been no acts of piracy committed, and I was at the meeting of all of the CEO's. Get you facts straight and cease your lying. You even besmirtch your own race. Like any lackey, you have been bought and paid for, now be quiet as people can see you for what you are. Run to Stain an lick some boots. Sarkos - Oracle Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
 Sarkos Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:12:00 -
[20] Fubie; What have you been smoking? If you wish to leave, then do so. If the Stain Alliance has made you and offer, then why backstab the others here. There has been no acts of piracy committed, and I was at the meeting of all of the CEO's. Get you facts straight and cease your lying. You even besmirtch your own race. Like any lackey, you have been bought and paid for, now be quiet as people can see you for what you are. Run to Stain an lick some boots. Sarkos - Oracle Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
 Fubie |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:51:00 -
[21]
You say I should leave. I will not leave. I was in Curse long before you were and so were many of the Coalition members. You are the ones who will leave. The Stain Alliance has made us no offer. But we do believe that they show more honor than the CA. The SA traveled Curse many times over the last few months. They never fired on ships just passing thru or ships that were mining. Yet the CA camps gates daily and kills anyone and everyone who comes close. The excuse they use. "they may be a Stain or Fountain Spy" Stain and Fountain never attacked Curse untill the CA commenced heavy pirating activities within Curse. Not only this but the CA are planing on raiding parties deep within Stain & Fountain. to disrupt mining activities. These are pirate acts. The CA is in no way honerable. they lied to get into Curse, and you are lying now. One thing you are forgetting, and that is all of the innocent people you have killed while they were just passing thru Curse. They have a voice here. They are the ones who can tell who you really are. ------------------------- |
Fubie Amarr Nexus Enterprises |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:51:00 -
[22]
You say I should leave. I will not leave. I was in Curse long before you were and so were many of the Coalition members. You are the ones who will leave. The Stain Alliance has made us no offer. But we do believe that they show more honor than the CA. The SA traveled Curse many times over the last few months. They never fired on ships just passing thru or ships that were mining. Yet the CA camps gates daily and kills anyone and everyone who comes close. The excuse they use. "they may be a Stain or Fountain Spy" Stain and Fountain never attacked Curse untill the CA commenced heavy pirating activities within Curse. Not only this but the CA are planing on raiding parties deep within Stain & Fountain. to disrupt mining activities. These are pirate acts. The CA is in no way honerable. they lied to get into Curse, and you are lying now. One thing you are forgetting, and that is all of the innocent people you have killed while they were just passing thru Curse. They have a voice here. They are the ones who can tell who you really are. ------------------------- |
Comander TAT |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:58:00 -
[23] We of the TYRELL-CORP are proude members of the curse coalition and we are sick of the pirate scum , we are making a stand !! Sarkos Fubie has all his facts right we live there !! The stain Alliance has made us no offers we hope they will recogniose us as friends and allies and not fire upon us. Now if you pulled your head out of syn's arse every now and again and smelled the roses you would see what was going on in curse and wouldnt come out with the bull **** you just came out with !! TAT Comander TAT Tyrell Corporation Director Military Operations *** Proud Member of the Stain Aliance *** |
 Comander TAT Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E |
Posted - 2003.09.29 05:58:00 -
[24] We of the TYRELL-CORP are proude members of the curse coalition and we are sick of the pirate scum , we are making a stand !! Sarkos Fubie has all his facts right we live there !! The stain Alliance has made us no offers we hope they will recogniose us as friends and allies and not fire upon us. Now if you pulled your head out of syn's arse every now and again and smelled the roses you would see what was going on in curse and wouldnt come out with the bull **** you just came out with !! TAT .......................................... Do you take it up the HOOP ? |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:05:00 -
[25] You are nothing but a piece of **** low-life backstabber. I recoded the meeting and I noted how you were in favor of blockading HED-GB and killing all who entered, especially noobs. You are a weakling and a liar. You have no idea of the truth. You are like all the ingame/out-game lowlifes that can be bought for mere change. I hope you realsie that you have ZERO honor much like all the other losers that MASS has been buying. This includes "pirates" like 1manarmy, Zen0, Pyscopath and now you. "Members of the Curse Alliance routinely shoot at one another and deny the incidents ever happened. The Curse region has turned into a lawless anarchy run by pirates and scum from all over the universe." That is one of the biggest lies and dumbest things ever seen., With all the new ppl around, accidents will happen. But, they were always compesated for. It once again shows how stupid you are. Infact, I never saw your ***** corporation ingage in battle once. You are nothing but ****ty poor miners. The funny thing is, you talked some much trash about Stain, about how they were out of Bistot and that they wanted Curse for the minerals. Do you deny this? |
 The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:05:00 -
[26] You are nothing but a piece of **** low-life backstabber. I recoded the meeting and I noted how you were in favor of blockading HED-GB and killing all who entered, especially noobs. You are a weakling and a liar. You have no idea of the truth. You are like all the ingame/out-game lowlifes that can be bought for mere change. I hope you realsie that you have ZERO honor much like all the other losers that MASS has been buying. This includes "pirates" like 1manarmy, Zen0, Pyscopath and now you. "Members of the Curse Alliance routinely shoot at one another and deny the incidents ever happened. The Curse region has turned into a lawless anarchy run by pirates and scum from all over the universe." That is one of the biggest lies and dumbest things ever seen., With all the new ppl around, accidents will happen. But, they were always compesated for. It once again shows how stupid you are. Infact, I never saw your ***** corporation ingage in battle once. You are nothing but ****ty poor miners. The funny thing is, you talked some much trash about Stain, about how they were out of Bistot and that they wanted Curse for the minerals. Do you deny this? |
 The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:07:00 -
[27]
How stupid are you? If SA and FA invaade us and kill us, do we not have the right to retaliate? I guess SA and FA are commiting pirate acts by attacking our miners. You sir are a hypocrite of epic proportions. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:07:00 -
[28]
How stupid are you? If SA and FA invaade us and kill us, do we not have the right to retaliate? I guess SA and FA are commiting pirate acts by attacking our miners. You sir are a hypocrite of epic proportions. |
 Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:30:00 -
[29] Poor CA. It's not going to last long, is it? Well dome, Curse Coalition, for finally making a stand! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
 Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:30:00 -
[30] Poor CA. It's not going to last long, is it? Well dome, Curse Coalition, for finally making a stand! |
 The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:31:00 -
[31]
Hey forum *****, what do you know? Do you know your "alliance" is recruiting pirtates and has them in your ranks? How is that acceptable? |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:31:00 -
[32]
Hey forum *****, what do you know? Do you know your "alliance" is recruiting pirtates and has them in your ranks? How is that acceptable? |
 Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:32:00 -
[33]
Do you use the forums when you're on autopilot too or just when you're in station? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:32:00 -
[34]
Do you use the forums when you're on autopilot too or just when you're in station? |
Nasty Ways |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:33:00 -
[35] What is TLBM doing in FD-MLJ atm? Guarding the... erm... rear entrance to curse? Helping solo traders? Kudos to the CC. We all know how this will turn out. Can anyone say 'Venal'? --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
 Nasty Ways Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:33:00 -
[36] What is TLBM doing in FD-MLJ atm? Guarding the... erm... rear entrance to curse? Helping solo traders? Kudos to the CC. We all know how this will turn out. Can anyone say 'Venal'? --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:34:00 -
[37]
Any possibility of answering me, or are you going to just dance around the subject? The subject being the Stain pirates I just named. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:34:00 -
[38]
Any possibility of answering me, or are you going to just dance around the subject? The subject being the Stain pirates I just named. |
UnIQu3 |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:36:00 -
[39] I would like to see a list over Curse colition and CA alliance! |
 UnIQu3 Amarr DarkStar 1 |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:36:00 -
[40] I would like to see a list over Curse colition and CA alliance! |
 Torm Yvette |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:39:00 -
[41] *sigh* Reclaimer, You complain about the Stain Alliance committing the very acts you and the rest of the Curse Alliance initially invaded Stain to commit. If anyone here is a hypocrite it is you my friend. The way I look at it, the best way to stop CA's pirate activities is to plant your boot firmly on their neck...simply put, squelch their mining operations. I applaud SA's forays into Curse to attack CA's mining ops and I encourage any member of the Curse Coalition to do the same if they encounter ANY members of the CA mining in or around Curse. No minerals = no ships = no piracy...it's as simple as that. -Torm Yvette - Ivory Wing Veteran "May the tides of war always crash upon your enemy's shore." |
 Torm Yvette Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:39:00 -
[42] *sigh* Reclaimer, You complain about the Stain Alliance committing the very acts you and the rest of the Curse Alliance initially invaded Stain to commit. If anyone here is a hypocrite it is you my friend. The way I look at it, the best way to stop CA's pirate activities is to plant your boot firmly on their neck...simply put, squelch their mining operations. I applaud SA's forays into Curse to attack CA's mining ops and I encourage any member of the Curse Coalition to do the same if they encounter ANY members of the CA mining in or around Curse. No minerals = no ships = no piracy...it's as simple as that. -Torm Yvette - Ivory Wing Veteran "May the tides of war always crash upon your enemy's shore." |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:42:00 -
[43]
Ask Evolution, the were there all day today even though the "threat" wasnt there. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:42:00 -
[44]
Ask Evolution, the were there all day today even though the "threat" wasnt there. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:44:00 -
[45]
Once again you cowards refuse to answer my questions. You guys employ pirates in your ranks. But, its ok if they are purchased, right? |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:44:00 -
[46]
Once again you cowards refuse to answer my questions. You guys employ pirates in your ranks. But, its ok if they are purchased, right? |
 Torm Yvette |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:50:00 -
[47] I for one am not sure what you are referring to. I do not pretend to know all the ins and outs of the politics in the SA, but I am noticing that YOU are failing to acknowledge your own hypocricy. Don't expect someone to play ball if you aren't willing to throw it back ;) -Torm Yvette - Ivory Wing Veteran "May the tides of war always crash upon your enemy's shore." |
Torm Yvette Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:50:00 -
[48] I for one am not sure what you are referring to. I do not pretend to know all the ins and outs of the politics in the SA, but I am noticing that YOU are failing to acknowledge your own hypocricy. Don't expect someone to play ball if you aren't willing to throw it back ;) -Torm Yvette - Ivory Wing Veteran "May the tides of war always crash upon your enemy's shore." |
 Nasty Ways |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:53:00 -
[49] It almost looks like The Reclaimer was hired by SA/FA to do the worst possible PR job for the CA. And he's worth every penny. --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
Nasty Ways Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:53:00 -
[50] It almost looks like The Reclaimer was hired by SA/FA to do the worst possible PR job for the CA. And he's worth every penny. --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
Raidek |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:58:00 -
[51] Edited by: Raidek on 29/09/2003 07:00:17 This is no loss to us. Curse Coalition members never participated in raids against stain or in defense of our homeland. You had commited to our alliance a few days ago and now you change your mind. This shows that you have no honor and that the curse coalition has some alternate motive in leaving CA. I guess I should break out some teamspeak recordings. Curse coalition is null and void and will be destroyed. -Raidek CEO, Sinister Corp. Proud Member of the Curse Alliance http://www.afraidyet.net |
 The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:58:00 -
[52]
I want you to tell me when I EVER did any pirating. EVER!!!! The only offensive action I have ever taken was raiding Fountain after they tried to seige me in a station for hours. How is that piracy? You see what the problem is that pirates are just that pirates. How is an alliance like yours of FA any different? I can tell you. Pirates dont hide behind PR. You guys lie and cheat and then pretend to be good guys. It sickens me to see that there are ppl out there that actually believe you. Again, I throw down the gauntlet, when did I ever pirate? All Stain wants is to have dominion over Curse much like the China does over Tibet. You can't stand the idea of having ppl nearby you that can actually stand up for themselves. You are all either ego-manics (HOMO) or quite deluded if you actually think we are all pirates. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:58:00 -
[53]
I want you to tell me when I EVER did any pirating. EVER!!!! The only offensive action I have ever taken was raiding Fountain after they tried to seige me in a station for hours. How is that piracy? You see what the problem is that pirates are just that pirates. How is an alliance like yours of FA any different? I can tell you. Pirates dont hide behind PR. You guys lie and cheat and then pretend to be good guys. It sickens me to see that there are ppl out there that actually believe you. Again, I throw down the gauntlet, when did I ever pirate? All Stain wants is to have dominion over Curse much like the China does over Tibet. You can't stand the idea of having ppl nearby you that can actually stand up for themselves. You are all either ego-manics (HOMO) or quite deluded if you actually think we are all pirates. |
 Raidek Minmatar Sinister Corporation |
Posted - 2003.09.29 06:58:00 -
[54] Edited by: Raidek on 29/09/2003 07:00:17 This is no loss to us. Curse Coalition members never participated in raids against stain or in defense of our homeland. You had commited to our alliance a few days ago and now you change your mind. This shows that you have no honor and that the curse coalition has some alternate motive in leaving CA. I guess I should break out some teamspeak recordings. Curse coalition is null and void and will be destroyed. -Raidek CEO, Sinister Corp. Proud Member of the Curse Alliance http://www.afraidyet.net |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:01:00 -
[55]
WHO THE **** ARE YOU? A nobody who is probably an alt of a gutless *****. If you dont like what I say, I must be right. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:01:00 -
[56]
WHO THE **** ARE YOU? A nobody who is probably an alt of a gutless *****. If you dont like what I say, I must be right. |
sutty |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:03:00 -
[57] *breaths* ahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhaha ahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahah. sorry :) |
 sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:03:00 -
[58] *breaths* ahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhaha ahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahah. sorry :) |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:04:00 -
[59]
Ahh yes, another unwanted opinion. Thanks for sharing that with us. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:04:00 -
[60]
Ahh yes, another unwanted opinion. Thanks for sharing that with us. |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:06:00 -
[61]
ehehehe!  It would seem that The Reclaimer went to the "Scrapyard Jack school for charm and sophistication!" Hey, wait a minute... Muh...muhh.... Mommy? ehehehe! |
 Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:06:00 -
[62]
ehehehe! It would seem that The Reclaimer went to the "Scrapyard Jack school for charm and sophistication!" Hey, wait a minute... Muh...muhh.... Mommy? ehehehe! |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:09:00 -
[63]
I went to the Howard Stern school of thought.  |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:09:00 -
[64]
I went to the Howard Stern school of thought. |
Revolution |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:10:00 -
[65]
ahahaha, dont lose any sleep over it, it is just a game |
 Revolution Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:10:00 -
[66]
ahahaha, dont lose any sleep over it, it is just a game |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:11:00 -
[67]
Ask for the money back. ehehehe! |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:11:00 -
[68]
Ask for the money back. ehehehe! |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:13:00 -
[69]
I might, but first I must know where you get your hair done. I am dying to get the neo-**** look. j/k |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:13:00 -
[70]
I might, but first I must know where you get your hair done. I am dying to get the neo-**** look. j/k |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:16:00 -
[71]
ehehehe! ol' Jack's barber lives in Stain; catch ol' Jack later and he'll hook you up with a personal appointment. ehehehe! |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:16:00 -
[72]
ehehehe! ol' Jack's barber lives in Stain; catch ol' Jack later and he'll hook you up with a personal appointment. ehehehe! |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:19:00 -
[73]
Sounds like a plan. I am moving there tonight. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:19:00 -
[74]
Sounds like a plan. I am moving there tonight. |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:20:00 -
[75]
ehehehe! I'm sure the Stainers will ready a, uh.. warm reception for ya. |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:20:00 -
[76]
ehehehe! I'm sure the Stainers will ready a, uh.. warm reception for ya. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:25:00 -
[77]
Cool, I'll bank on some spawn and gate camping then. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:25:00 -
[78]
Cool, I'll bank on some spawn and gate camping then. |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:26:00 -
[79]
Bring a good book; you're gonna be spending a lot of time in a station. |
Scrapyard Jack |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:26:00 -
[80]
Bring a good book; you're gonna be spending a lot of time in a station. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:30:00 -
[81] Ok, sounds about right. BTW, its nice to correspond with a mature person on the forums. TY |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:30:00 -
[82] Ok, sounds about right. BTW, its nice to correspond with a mature person on the forums. TY |
Orestes |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:43:00 -
[83] Moved from General Discussions. Join the IC! |
 Orestes ISD Interstellar Correspondents  |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:43:00 -
[84] Moved from General Discussions. Join the IC! |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:50:00 -
[85]
TY. Perhapes if the original poster understood the forums you wouldnt have had to do his work for him. Oh wait, thats all he really wants. He wanted us to kill Stain and to defend him. Now that Stain offered to buy him off, he betrays us. BTW jackass, you were spotted with members of old farts. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:50:00 -
[86]
TY. Perhapes if the original poster understood the forums you wouldnt have had to do his work for him. Oh wait, thats all he really wants. He wanted us to kill Stain and to defend him. Now that Stain offered to buy him off, he betrays us. BTW jackass, you were spotted with members of old farts. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:57:00 -
[87] Nah, he just wanted to make sure everyone saw the important message we wanted to get out, the fact that we are not gonna associate ourselves with the scum of the universe any longer. Thats all, and the eve general forums get read a whole lot more than the Corporations etc one its in now. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:57:00 -
[88] Nah, he just wanted to make sure everyone saw the important message we wanted to get out, the fact that we are not gonna associate ourselves with the scum of the universe any longer. Thats all, and the eve general forums get read a whole lot more than the Corporations etc one its in now. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Fausto |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:59:00 -
[89] Just another unwanted opinion: DIE PIRATE SCUM!!! You got what you deserve after showing nothing but arrogance to EVE citizens. The 'bussiness men' and their bosses 'sinister' should drown in the blood of the innocent they have spilled. I hope every major corp gts you on their exetrmination list and you are all forced to play with your alts only  ______ <brainpodder> |
 Fausto Caldari Antonio Fratianni Corp |
Posted - 2003.09.29 07:59:00 -
[90] Just another unwanted opinion: DIE PIRATE SCUM!!! You got what you deserve after showing nothing but arrogance to EVE citizens. The 'bussiness men' and their bosses 'sinister' should drown in the blood of the innocent they have spilled. I hope every major corp gts you on their exetrmination list and you are all forced to play with your alts only ______ <brainpodder> |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:17:00 -
[91] Edited by: The Reclaimer on 29/09/2003 08:18:12
Good one smart guy, but what section do you think gets more visitors? General discussion gets far more. More flawed logic that I have become accustomed to. If you don't believe me or wish to dispute the facts look no further than the bottom. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:17:00 -
[92] Edited by: The Reclaimer on 29/09/2003 08:18:12
Good one smart guy, but what section do you think gets more visitors? General discussion gets far more. More flawed logic that I have become accustomed to. If you don't believe me or wish to dispute the facts look no further than the bottom. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:37:00 -
[93] Whatever, maybe we should just try and get it on the Eve-News then eh??..whadda ya say news guys, wanna story here ya go. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:37:00 -
[94] Whatever, maybe we should just try and get it on the Eve-News then eh??..whadda ya say news guys, wanna story here ya go. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:43:00 -
[95] Dobbo, you and your backstabbing corp are even lower than any pirate or regional alliance. You carebears have been "rented" by the Stain Alliance. Nothing more, nothing less. Do you really think we will miss you ZERO participation? You carebears never helped, but were always eager to ask for our help and suggest we attack and kill Stain. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 08:43:00 -
[96] Dobbo, you and your backstabbing corp are even lower than any pirate or regional alliance. You carebears have been "rented" by the Stain Alliance. Nothing more, nothing less. Do you really think we will miss you ZERO participation? You carebears never helped, but were always eager to ask for our help and suggest we attack and kill Stain. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:07:00 -
[97] Hey, you are the guys who lie, steal, cheat, etc....we just want a nice clean part of space, if we need to fight for it then so be it, we accepted you into it on the grounds that you were going to turn over a new leaf and leave you ways of violence behind, since we have seen little to prove this card, we have decided to kick you out of our space...So have a nice day --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:07:00 -
[98] Hey, you are the guys who lie, steal, cheat, etc....we just want a nice clean part of space, if we need to fight for it then so be it, we accepted you into it on the grounds that you were going to turn over a new leaf and leave you ways of violence behind, since we have seen little to prove this card, we have decided to kick you out of our space...So have a nice day --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
SirMolle |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:21:00 -
[99] EVOL recognizes CC as defenders of Curse, and enemies of SINC. EVOL will no longer consider any of those part of CC as hostiles. Thank you sirs. Make no mistake SINC, we are coming for YOU. |
 SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:21:00 -
[100] EVOL recognizes CC as defenders of Curse, and enemies of SINC. EVOL will no longer consider any of those part of CC as hostiles. Thank you sirs. Make no mistake SINC, we are coming for YOU. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:50:00 -
[101]
How did you get your real life picture in the game as your pilot? Do you know ppl who know ppl? |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:50:00 -
[102]
How did you get your real life picture in the game as your pilot? Do you know ppl who know ppl? |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:55:00 -
[103]
If, I stress IF, you were smart, you would realize you were already in curse and already have came for us, and have been in curse for the past few days - either way it doesn't matter much, you cant even kill us when exploiting - now thats sad. Sigh another one bites the dust. |
 PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.09.29 09:55:00 -
[104]
If, I stress IF, you were smart, you would realize you were already in curse and already have came for us, and have been in curse for the past few days - either way it doesn't matter much, you cant even kill us when exploiting - now thats sad. Sigh another one bites the dust. |
ProphetGuru |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:00:00 -
[105] I look fwd to CA incursions into FA space. Been kinda boring since u guys uhhh made a strategic withdrawal. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:00:00 -
[106] Actually, now that I have pondered it for awhile, I am glad Stain is recruiting all these low-lifes. Its my sincere hope that this leads to a few more *****s in the armor. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:00:00 -
[107] Actually, now that I have pondered it for awhile, I am glad Stain is recruiting all these low-lifes. Its my sincere hope that this leads to a few more *****s in the armor. |
 ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:00:00 -
[108] I look fwd to CA incursions into FA space. Been kinda boring since u guys uhhh made a strategic withdrawal. GG, only took yas 6 months |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:03:00 -
[109] Seriously, its been hours and no forum ***** to respond to my calls that SA activitly employees and recruits "pirates". |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:03:00 -
[110] Seriously, its been hours and no forum ***** to respond to my calls that SA activitly employees and recruits "pirates". |
Drake Ramirez |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:40:00 -
[111]
Maybe if you calmed down a little and act a little more mature they might respond. Remember itÆs only a game; you seem to be taking it all too seriously and will probably end up in an early grave if youÆre not careful. Think of the blood pressure my son Drake Ramirez When everything else is said and done, there will be nothing else to say or do... |
semp |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:40:00 -
[112] Edited by: semp on 29/09/2003 10:47:23 No longer with Pirate activities be tollorated within Curse. Let me introduce myself first, I'm Semp CEO of Tyrell Corp, a peacful and hardworking Corp who is always happy to work with and live alongside any other corps of similar values. As im sure you all know, before our friends decended upon Curse last week there was at least 3 other Alliances formed withing the Curse region. This all changed when Sinister and their friends decided to make Curse there new home, NAP's were quickly agreed and eveyone signed up for no other reason that to give themselfs a bit of breathing space and to see where they would go from there. Well there was only really one option for Tyrell Corp, along with like minded allies who were also not happy with this new imposed regiem (there are many) and give them the last thing they wanted......Trouble right on there doorstep. Although SA and others have been causing you problems of late via the front door so to speak, you now have to contend with a highly organised and motivated Coalition who's main aim is the removal and destruction of CA from their space, the only diffrence being that rather than being visitors to this region, we know this place inside out, its our home after all. We will continue to help and aid any enemies of CA who have the same goals as ourselfs, and should any of these groups wish to discuss anything then please feel free to get in touch with any of the Coalition Members whio will be happy to point you in the right direction. We have been asked by several of you for a list of our members, well lets just say some of us are more open about our affiliations than others although a list of Corps NOT to shoot in Curse will be made available to our allies. That is all for now  Peace Out. Semp CEO Tyrell Corp |
 Drake Ramirez Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:40:00 -
[113]
Maybe if you calmed down a little and act a little more mature they might respond. Remember itÆs only a game; you seem to be taking it all too seriously and will probably end up in an early grave if youÆre not careful. Think of the blood pressure my son Drake Ramirez When everything else is said and done, there will be nothing else to say or do... |
 semp Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:40:00 -
[114] Edited by: semp on 29/09/2003 10:47:23 No longer with Pirate activities be tollorated within Curse. Let me introduce myself first, I'm Semp CEO of Tyrell Corp, a peacful and hardworking Corp who is always happy to work with and live alongside any other corps of similar values. As im sure you all know, before our friends decended upon Curse last week there was at least 3 other Alliances formed withing the Curse region. This all changed when Sinister and their friends decided to make Curse there new home, NAP's were quickly agreed and eveyone signed up for no other reason that to give themselfs a bit of breathing space and to see where they would go from there. Well there was only really one option for Tyrell Corp, along with like minded allies who were also not happy with this new imposed regiem (there are many) and give them the last thing they wanted......Trouble right on there doorstep. Although SA and others have been causing you problems of late via the front door so to speak, you now have to contend with a highly organised and motivated Coalition who's main aim is the removal and destruction of CA from their space, the only diffrence being that rather than being visitors to this region, we know this place inside out, its our home after all. We will continue to help and aid any enemies of CA who have the same goals as ourselfs, and should any of these groups wish to discuss anything then please feel free to get in touch with any of the Coalition Members whio will be happy to point you in the right direction. We have been asked by several of you for a list of our members, well lets just say some of us are more open about our affiliations than others although a list of Corps NOT to shoot in Curse will be made available to our allies. That is all for now Peace Out. Semp CEO Tyrell Corp |
Quiz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:51:00 -
[115] I am myself a member of Tyrell Corp and I agree with semp on this. Its definently time to stand up to the pirates who try to force their will upon us. We have the manpower and resources available to do so, and many of the other corporations in Curse has so too. See you all out there. :) |
 Quiz Caldari Cirrius Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:51:00 -
[116] I am myself a member of Tyrell Corp and I agree with semp on this. Its definently time to stand up to the pirates who try to force their will upon us. We have the manpower and resources available to do so, and many of the other corporations in Curse has so too. See you all out there. :) |
Rebellion |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:54:00 -
[117] Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2003 10:59:35 Kudos to Sinc for still coming out and fighting after losing 4-to-1 bships everytime 10 of Evolution (edit: oh, and a couple Xan and OEC too :) werd bros!) go up against 30 of Sinc and their lackeys. I won't call it the Curse Alliance. The Curse Alliance existed there quietly before the pirates came and messed things up. What we're up against now is Sinister and their band of hoodlums. And they've been fighting rather dismally thus far, shooting each other by mistake. We're considering supplying them with bargain cruise missiles so that they can kill each other better. The Curse Coalition can rest assured that we will remove Sinc and all other pirate annoyances from Curse. All free of charge. |
 Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 10:54:00 -
[118] Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2003 10:59:35 Kudos to Sinc for still coming out and fighting after losing 4-to-1 bships everytime 10 of Evolution (edit: oh, and a couple Xan and OEC too :) werd bros!) go up against 30 of Sinc and their lackeys. I won't call it the Curse Alliance. The Curse Alliance existed there quietly before the pirates came and messed things up. What we're up against now is Sinister and their band of hoodlums. And they've been fighting rather dismally thus far, shooting each other by mistake. We're considering supplying them with bargain cruise missiles so that they can kill each other better. The Curse Coalition can rest assured that we will remove Sinc and all other pirate annoyances from Curse. All free of charge. |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:08:00 -
[119] alliance \Al*li"ance\, n. [OE. aliaunce, OF. aliance, F. alliance, fr. OF. alier, F. allier. See Ally, and cf. LL. alligantia.] 1. The state of being allied; the act of allying or uniting; a union or connection of interests between families, states, parties, etc., especially between families by marriage and states by compact, treaty, or league; as, matrimonial alliances; an alliance between church and state; an alliance between France and England. you guys need to change your name, you have no allies in curse only enemies "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
 Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:08:00 -
[120] alliance \Al*li"ance\, n. [OE. aliaunce, OF. aliance, F. alliance, fr. OF. alier, F. allier. See Ally, and cf. LL. alligantia.] 1. The state of being allied; the act of allying or uniting; a union or connection of interests between families, states, parties, etc., especially between families by marriage and states by compact, treaty, or league; as, matrimonial alliances; an alliance between church and state; an alliance between France and England. you guys need to change your name, you have no allies in curse only enemies "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:12:00 -
[121] Edited by: Jim Raynor on 29/09/2003 11:14:39
Oh.. please, give me a break. Look.. we were doing fine against Stain, infact, we were kicking their asses. Now Evolution/Xandadu come to bolster Stain (which already consisted of 6-8 corps attacks us) so now we're highly outnumbered down in Curse. It's okay, I know you guys need those 3:1 odds to fight, since I chase you little nooblets around HLW all night when you don't have your lag armada with you. Now I know you guys are all very bored, and you have nothing else to do in Eve cept attack us, so, by all means you may continue. We aren't going anywhere though and we still have some allies to bring in ourselves so, if you want a war, we surely will give you one, don't worry. As for these Curse Coalition people, or whatever they call themselves, all I can say is thank you for leaving. You guys were the dead weight, probably the guys leaking our alliance channel constantly, the guys that never showed up to defend Curse, or did anything useful what so ever. The people that matter are still loyal and willing to defend Curse from Stain and Fountain. I have no problem with these worthless carebear corps leaving, they did nothing anyways. If Stain paid anything for their loyalty, all I can say it was a really bad investment, you just recruited a bunch of cowards who had nothing to do with the defense of Curse in any way shape or form. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
 Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:12:00 -
[122] Edited by: Jim Raynor on 29/09/2003 11:14:39
Oh.. please, give me a break. Look.. we were doing fine against Stain, infact, we were kicking their asses. Now Evolution/Xandadu come to bolster Stain (which already consisted of 6-8 corps attacks us) so now we're highly outnumbered down in Curse. It's okay, I know you guys need those 3:1 odds to fight, since I chase you little nooblets around HLW all night when you don't have your lag armada with you. Now I know you guys are all very bored, and you have nothing else to do in Eve cept attack us, so, by all means you may continue. We aren't going anywhere though and we still have some allies to bring in ourselves so, if you want a war, we surely will give you one, don't worry. As for these Curse Coalition people, or whatever they call themselves, all I can say is thank you for leaving. You guys were the dead weight, probably the guys leaking our alliance channel constantly, the guys that never showed up to defend Curse, or did anything useful what so ever. The people that matter are still loyal and willing to defend Curse from Stain and Fountain. I have no problem with these worthless carebear corps leaving, they did nothing anyways. If Stain paid anything for their loyalty, all I can say it was a really bad investment, you just recruited a bunch of cowards who had nothing to do with the defense of Curse in any way shape or form. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:16:00 -
[123]
Because I have already made a responce to that in other threads. Since you post in most threads here, it would take alot of my time to respond in all of them. I'll do it again: Psychopath has nothing with MASS to do. 1man army quit EVE and came back now. If you consider him to be a dangerous pirate then .Xen0 was fed up with the gameplay Sinister offered, as well as some members. And not even the CA information minister can claim Xen0 has shot at someone innocent after he joined us, which is now quite awhile ago. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:16:00 -
[124]
Because I have already made a responce to that in other threads. Since you post in most threads here, it would take alot of my time to respond in all of them. I'll do it again: Psychopath has nothing with MASS to do. 1man army quit EVE and came back now. If you consider him to be a dangerous pirate then .Xen0 was fed up with the gameplay Sinister offered, as well as some members. And not even the CA information minister can claim Xen0 has shot at someone innocent after he joined us, which is now quite awhile ago. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:28:00 -
[125] I will help to drive out the pirate corps of Curse in any way I can. I will now remove Nexus and Tyrell corp from my acceptable target list. I hope my fellow Stain Alliance members will do the same and help our hard working, peaceful neighbours free Curse and catch of the pirate scum of EVE. Please evemail me a list of your fellow corp's so I may remove them from my target list as well. Best of luck --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
 Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:28:00 -
[126] I will help to drive out the pirate corps of Curse in any way I can. I will now remove Nexus and Tyrell corp from my acceptable target list. I hope my fellow Stain Alliance members will do the same and help our hard working, peaceful neighbours free Curse and catch of the pirate scum of EVE. Please evemail me a list of your fellow corp's so I may remove them from my target list as well. Best of luck --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:29:00 -
[127] Hmm, Jim Raynor, last time one of our members used energy neutralizers our enemies screamed out loud and got him BANNED. Hmm, I see you're using them still. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:29:00 -
[128] Hmm, Jim Raynor, last time one of our members used energy neutralizers our enemies screamed out loud and got him BANNED. Hmm, I see you're using them still. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:36:00 -
[129]
Scream away. There's nothing wrong with using energy neutralizers.. just don't use them on me. :) ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:36:00 -
[130]
Scream away. There's nothing wrong with using energy neutralizers.. just don't use them on me. :) ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Rust |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:39:00 -
[131]
Perhaps we are on different time zones - but I have only just stirred myself out of bed and read this. Firstly can I say how much I welcome the C.C. I knew it would not be long before the good people of Curse stood up to the Pirate horde. It will be dangerous for them, but MASS and I am sure SA as a whole will do our best to aid them. Secondly the matter of us buying pirates. MASS does not advertise for members, and we would never think of offering inducements to join MASS. It is difficult to get into MASS, and what is important is the desire to contribute to MASS, and become a team player in a cooperative focused Corp that plays closely together for fun and specific goals. Do we accept pirates? I have stated before on these boards that we were willing to become friends with Red Corsairs who we were at war with, because they said they wished to change from the path of pirates. We understand that many good players have tried the dark way in this game. If they can convince me that they not only truely wish to give up pirating, but also will put MASS before their own individual needs - then yes I will accept them. The three character you mention do not come into this area though. Pschopath was refused. 1man was one of the original members of MASS many months ago. He said he wanted to try the pirate life and we asked him to leave MASS. He tried it and soon realised he did not like it (realising you are upsetting people in real life can spoil your own fun for people with emphathy). He deleted his character and left the game. He has recently made a new character with the same name and has come home. Xeno is a fine person and has been known to MASS for a long time - I will say no more.I thought Legitimate Businessmens club were proud to be pirates - I would be interested to know if this is not so - and what other people thoughts are about you as a Corp. |
 Rust Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:39:00 -
[132]
Perhaps we are on different time zones - but I have only just stirred myself out of bed and read this. Firstly can I say how much I welcome the C.C. I knew it would not be long before the good people of Curse stood up to the Pirate horde. It will be dangerous for them, but MASS and I am sure SA as a whole will do our best to aid them. Secondly the matter of us buying pirates. MASS does not advertise for members, and we would never think of offering inducements to join MASS. It is difficult to get into MASS, and what is important is the desire to contribute to MASS, and become a team player in a cooperative focused Corp that plays closely together for fun and specific goals. Do we accept pirates? I have stated before on these boards that we were willing to become friends with Red Corsairs who we were at war with, because they said they wished to change from the path of pirates. We understand that many good players have tried the dark way in this game. If they can convince me that they not only truely wish to give up pirating, but also will put MASS before their own individual needs - then yes I will accept them. The three character you mention do not come into this area though. Pschopath was refused. 1man was one of the original members of MASS many months ago. He said he wanted to try the pirate life and we asked him to leave MASS. He tried it and soon realised he did not like it (realising you are upsetting people in real life can spoil your own fun for people with emphathy). He deleted his character and left the game. He has recently made a new character with the same name and has come home. Xeno is a fine person and has been known to MASS for a long time - I will say no more.I thought Legitimate Businessmens club were proud to be pirates - I would be interested to know if this is not so - and what other people thoughts are about you as a Corp. |
Duke Droklar |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:41:00 -
[133] Edited by: Duke Droklar on 29/09/2003 11:43:29 If we want a war? There are SA/FA forces ranging freely over curse nearly every hour of the day and night hunting and engaging your Pirate Alliance forces and infrastructure. Your fate is sealed in this area of Eve. Curse Coalition: Omega Corp recognizes the CC member corps as friendlies and will make every effort to avoid accidental engagements. Please open a channel of communication with Specter so we can confirm all those in the CC. Lawful corporations of Curse: To those that have decided to remain and take their chances in the warzone. I urge you to contact the CC and form a powerful alliance that will lead Curse into a prosperous future free of the pirate brigands that have plagued curse. You now see first hand how when evil is ignored and allowed to go unchecked it quickly spreads like a disease. The people of Curse are being provided another opportunity to reclaim what has been taken from them. Learn from the past, take a stand and let your voice be counted among those shouting.... CURSE WILL BE FREE! |
Duke Droklar Omega Corp |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:41:00 -
[134] Edited by: Duke Droklar on 29/09/2003 11:43:29 If we want a war? There are SA/FA forces ranging freely over curse nearly every hour of the day and night hunting and engaging your Pirate Alliance forces and infrastructure. Your fate is sealed in this area of Eve. Curse Coalition: Omega Corp recognizes the CC member corps as friendlies and will make every effort to avoid accidental engagements. Please open a channel of communication with Specter so we can confirm all those in the CC. Lawful corporations of Curse: To those that have decided to remain and take their chances in the warzone. I urge you to contact the CC and form a powerful alliance that will lead Curse into a prosperous future free of the pirate brigands that have plagued curse. You now see first hand how when evil is ignored and allowed to go unchecked it quickly spreads like a disease. The people of Curse are being provided another opportunity to reclaim what has been taken from them. Learn from the past, take a stand and let your voice be counted among those shouting.... CURSE WILL BE FREE! |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:47:00 -
[135]
Yes, your lag fleets are impressive, infact they're really over kill. You will only fight 3:1 odds, we all know this. We had a 6v5 situation in HLW the other night in your favor and you all fled from us until we finally nailed two of your battleships and crippled the rest and you guys all logged out (some DURING THE FIGHT hahaha). It's okay though, when your numbers dwindle down we all come out and school your asses left and right. I've personally downed about five of your battleships and a few of your cruisers in the last two nights. :) ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:47:00 -
[136]
Yes, your lag fleets are impressive, infact they're really over kill. You will only fight 3:1 odds, we all know this. We had a 6v5 situation in HLW the other night in your favor and you all fled from us until we finally nailed two of your battleships and crippled the rest and you guys all logged out (some DURING THE FIGHT hahaha). It's okay though, when your numbers dwindle down we all come out and school your asses left and right. I've personally downed about five of your battleships and a few of your cruisers in the last two nights. :) ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Qobra |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:53:00 -
[137] Hmmm time for a little background story: Once upon a time Curse was a pirate nest. One day the pirates decided to focus somewhere else in EVE galaxy. Since the majority of pirates had left new corps arrived. They still had to fight pirates thou but not huge fleets. After awhile some corp got to know and trust eachother and together they combined forces. Then one day a guy says... hey why not make this an alliance ? Hmm yeah why not ? So the so called Curse Alliance was formed. This alliance was based around HLW in Curse and the natural filter to the rest of curse. After patroling for some time more corps settled down in curse since the pirates were dealt with....and so.. another alliance pops up. Ahhh the Curse Alliance says... why not make friends with this other alliance. A meeting was held and the CA gave the offer to the other alliance. They thought about it but couldnt quite decide how good friends since the CA had a known Roleplaying pirate corp among them (Red Corsairs). So it ended with a NAP (Non Agression Pact). Then out of the blue Nexus Enterprises start talking about forming a third alliance (Curse Coalition). They approach the second (nameless alliance). Now what happens im unsure of but about 2-3 weeks later i get informed that Curse Coalition was trying to hire well know pirate corps to destroy Curse Alliance. But Curse Coalition miscalculated something cause these pirates wouldnt attack the Curse Alliance after all since these pirates respected the Curse Alliance. Then another champion show up on the scene SA (Stain Alliance) like most other corps they regarded Red Corsairs as random pirates (which they are not) so they charged into Curse region claiming they needed a path to fight the Red Corsairs and killed people considered as allies to Red Corsairs. So now Curse Alliance had to worry about Curse Coalition and the Stain people. Then Sinister and RUS offer their help cause they have a problem with Stain. We agree that if corps are to work together we better drop the pirate thing all together and try make Curse a home. We make a friend list and a very short KOS list, cause the problem is not Curse citizens but now the big threat came from Stain. Then Stain make a good PR show telling all people Curse Alliance is infested with pirates and all anti-pirate corps clap in thier hands.. ahhh a target. So the war comes to Curse and behind the curtain Curse Coalition awaits the outcome. They wait... and wait.. and wait and one day.. ahhh nows our chance. This is a very nice diplomatic stunt made of Nexus. But it's also this kinda stunt who tell how trusted you can be. On very race occassions i speak on this forum, today was one of them. |
 Qobra Minmatar Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:53:00 -
[138] Hmmm time for a little background story: Once upon a time Curse was a pirate nest. One day the pirates decided to focus somewhere else in EVE galaxy. Since the majority of pirates had left new corps arrived. They still had to fight pirates thou but not huge fleets. After awhile some corp got to know and trust eachother and together they combined forces. Then one day a guy says... hey why not make this an alliance ? Hmm yeah why not ? So the so called Curse Alliance was formed. This alliance was based around HLW in Curse and the natural filter to the rest of curse. After patroling for some time more corps settled down in curse since the pirates were dealt with....and so.. another alliance pops up. Ahhh the Curse Alliance says... why not make friends with this other alliance. A meeting was held and the CA gave the offer to the other alliance. They thought about it but couldnt quite decide how good friends since the CA had a known Roleplaying pirate corp among them (Red Corsairs). So it ended with a NAP (Non Agression Pact). Then out of the blue Nexus Enterprises start talking about forming a third alliance (Curse Coalition). They approach the second (nameless alliance). Now what happens im unsure of but about 2-3 weeks later i get informed that Curse Coalition was trying to hire well know pirate corps to destroy Curse Alliance. But Curse Coalition miscalculated something cause these pirates wouldnt attack the Curse Alliance after all since these pirates respected the Curse Alliance. Then another champion show up on the scene SA (Stain Alliance) like most other corps they regarded Red Corsairs as random pirates (which they are not) so they charged into Curse region claiming they needed a path to fight the Red Corsairs and killed people considered as allies to Red Corsairs. So now Curse Alliance had to worry about Curse Coalition and the Stain people. Then Sinister and RUS offer their help cause they have a problem with Stain. We agree that if corps are to work together we better drop the pirate thing all together and try make Curse a home. We make a friend list and a very short KOS list, cause the problem is not Curse citizens but now the big threat came from Stain. Then Stain make a good PR show telling all people Curse Alliance is infested with pirates and all anti-pirate corps clap in thier hands.. ahhh a target. So the war comes to Curse and behind the curtain Curse Coalition awaits the outcome. They wait... and wait.. and wait and one day.. ahhh nows our chance. This is a very nice diplomatic stunt made of Nexus. But it's also this kinda stunt who tell how trusted you can be. On very race occassions i speak on this forum, today was one of them. |
TK ZAPP |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:59:00 -
[139] Well at least life in Curse isn't dull (mostly), even if most of the above posts are. If you've nothing useful to say, don't say it. So maybe I shouldn't have posted this  The only animal that blushes, or needs to, is man. - Mark Twain |
 TK ZAPP Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 11:59:00 -
[140] Well at least life in Curse isn't dull (mostly), even if most of the above posts are. If you've nothing useful to say, don't say it. So maybe I shouldn't have posted this The only animal that blushes, or needs to, is man. - Mark Twain |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:09:00 -
[141] Mr. Raynor, We did not engage this undertaking without accounting for some losses. I do believe that your losses are greater than ours however. You state that we outnumber you 3 to 1. In a war of straight attrition you will indeed lose. Also we have the resources readily at hand to rebuild any losses immediatly. In engagements I was a part of yesterday 8 Curse Alliance vessels were destroyed while our losses numbered 3. Should this trend continue there is only 1 possible outcome to this conflict. One that I can readily accept. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:09:00 -
[142] Mr. Raynor, We did not engage this undertaking without accounting for some losses. I do believe that your losses are greater than ours however. You state that we outnumber you 3 to 1. In a war of straight attrition you will indeed lose. Also we have the resources readily at hand to rebuild any losses immediatly. In engagements I was a part of yesterday 8 Curse Alliance vessels were destroyed while our losses numbered 3. Should this trend continue there is only 1 possible outcome to this conflict. One that I can readily accept. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:12:00 -
[143]
Ah, once again Stain bragging about their bistot and how they don't need skills because they can rebuild ships quickly. Congrats, you rock man, really.. no really! :) I killed a few of your boys last night before downtime so you might wanna add some more to your little tally, add a Blackbird and a Megathron, and a few crippled battleships that limped back home to Stain. ;) ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:12:00 -
[144]
Ah, once again Stain bragging about their bistot and how they don't need skills because they can rebuild ships quickly. Congrats, you rock man, really.. no really! :) I killed a few of your boys last night before downtime so you might wanna add some more to your little tally, add a Blackbird and a Megathron, and a few crippled battleships that limped back home to Stain. ;) ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Rust |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:15:00 -
[145]
So you agree that Sinister and RUS came into Curse and allied themselves with you so they could attack SA. Think about it carefully - how would you react to this if you were SA? On a side note we are not at war with Red Corsairs because we don't realise they are merely a 'role playing corp', but because they destroyed an indie of ours with 14 million worth of skills in it, and refused to even dicuss it with us. I imagine they are happy to role play the result of that action as being stamped on everytime we find them. |
Rust Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:15:00 -
[146]
So you agree that Sinister and RUS came into Curse and allied themselves with you so they could attack SA. Think about it carefully - how would you react to this if you were SA? On a side note we are not at war with Red Corsairs because we don't realise they are merely a 'role playing corp', but because they destroyed an indie of ours with 14 million worth of skills in it, and refused to even dicuss it with us. I imagine they are happy to role play the result of that action as being stamped on everytime we find them. |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:17:00 -
[147] Edited by: Mr Blonde on 29/09/2003 12:18:34 Well this thread is so amusing that I dont even know where to start.. First off I think The Reclaimer should perhaps stop TRYING SO HARD. Spreading your weak arguments over 12 posts, and yapping at everyone who posts their opinion in this thread doesnt really make you, or your alliance look very credible. Try to actually get an opinion and then sticking with it. It is a fact that the members of the Legitimate Buisinessmens Club have in the past, and are even now, refering to themselves as pirates, and acting as such. They are at the moment still in FD-M blockading, and killing everyone that is not part of the CA. Now if the Curse alliance would care to explain how the hell this is helping them secure CURSE, which just happens to be on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE UNIVERSE... Im listening.. Fact is that the Curse Alliance is built on lies. They claim that Sinister and their members have reformed, and are now the "military arm" of the Curse, where in fact they are still pirating on the other side of the Universe. Face it CA, before you actually get your pirate friends under control, and have them stop destroying your arguments by their actions, no one is going to believe a word you say. |
 Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:17:00 -
[148] Edited by: Mr Blonde on 29/09/2003 12:18:34 Well this thread is so amusing that I dont even know where to start.. First off I think The Reclaimer should perhaps stop TRYING SO HARD. Spreading your weak arguments over 12 posts, and yapping at everyone who posts their opinion in this thread doesnt really make you, or your alliance look very credible. Try to actually get an opinion and then sticking with it. It is a fact that the members of the Legitimate Buisinessmens Club have in the past, and are even now, refering to themselves as pirates, and acting as such. They are at the moment still in FD-M blockading, and killing everyone that is not part of the CA. Now if the Curse alliance would care to explain how the hell this is helping them secure CURSE, which just happens to be on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE UNIVERSE... Im listening.. Fact is that the Curse Alliance is built on lies. They claim that Sinister and their members have reformed, and are now the "military arm" of the Curse, where in fact they are still pirating on the other side of the Universe. Face it CA, before you actually get your pirate friends under control, and have them stop destroying your arguments by their actions, no one is going to believe a word you say. |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:18:00 -
[149]
Actually when we came to Curse we were 99.9% sure you would come gunning for us first, and you did. Then when you start getting your booties wooped, you call in Fountain cause you can't handle us yourselves. Like I've said though, we have more friends too. >_< ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:18:00 -
[150]
Actually when we came to Curse we were 99.9% sure you would come gunning for us first, and you did. Then when you start getting your booties wooped, you call in Fountain cause you can't handle us yourselves. Like I've said though, we have more friends too. >_< ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:19:00 -
[151]
If you are correct that would put our losses at 5. Yours however still were 8, not counting any that may have occured before downtime. My last statement still holds true. In a straight war of attrition, you will lose. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:19:00 -
[152]
If you are correct that would put our losses at 5. Yours however still were 8, not counting any that may have occured before downtime. My last statement still holds true. In a straight war of attrition, you will lose. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:20:00 -
[153]
TLBC != SINC. The SINC left in FD-MLJ will most likely join TLBC soon, as we no longer are active there. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:20:00 -
[154]
TLBC != SINC. The SINC left in FD-MLJ will most likely join TLBC soon, as we no longer are active there. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Rust |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:29:00 -
[155]
Yes Jim, we both knew it was going to be an all out fight - pity you didn't explain that to your new allies. I am not sure what my shoes have to do with this, but MASS as a Corp have yet to engage you - you will know when we do . |
Rust Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:29:00 -
[156]
Yes Jim, we both knew it was going to be an all out fight - pity you didn't explain that to your new allies. I am not sure what my shoes have to do with this, but MASS as a Corp have yet to engage you - you will know when we do . |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:33:00 -
[157]
I know they arent Sinister, Sinister was just a generalization of all "evil pirate corps " (even though as you stated Sinister also has some ppl up there)The point still stands though TLBC is a member of the Curse Alliance (with their wonderful PR Guru, Reclaimer) and therefore their actions as pirates are pretty much negating anything the CA says in terms of "we are just interested in defending our borders" . So even if the Sinister members up there do join TLBC, the Curse Alliance still has 1 of its member corps activly pirating in FD-M. This in turn proves my point just fine. The CA Council supports pirating in Syndicate, by having one of their member corps stationed up there, killing everyone who passes. |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:33:00 -
[158]
I know they arent Sinister, Sinister was just a generalization of all "evil pirate corps " (even though as you stated Sinister also has some ppl up there)The point still stands though TLBC is a member of the Curse Alliance (with their wonderful PR Guru, Reclaimer) and therefore their actions as pirates are pretty much negating anything the CA says in terms of "we are just interested in defending our borders" . So even if the Sinister members up there do join TLBC, the Curse Alliance still has 1 of its member corps activly pirating in FD-M. This in turn proves my point just fine. The CA Council supports pirating in Syndicate, by having one of their member corps stationed up there, killing everyone who passes. |
Duke Droklar |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:35:00 -
[159] Qobra old friend. I hope that the Nomads quickly see their err in judgement and officially shun this Pirate Alliance built upon deceit and treachery. They have duped too many corps into believing "they have reformed" and that the CA is anything more then a cover for villany and a lair for their outlaws. |
Duke Droklar Omega Corp |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:35:00 -
[160] Qobra old friend. I hope that the Nomads quickly see their err in judgement and officially shun this Pirate Alliance built upon deceit and treachery. They have duped too many corps into believing "they have reformed" and that the CA is anything more then a cover for villany and a lair for their outlaws. |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:40:00 -
[161]
We also step on newborn puppies and run over old ladies with our cars too. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:40:00 -
[162]
We also step on newborn puppies and run over old ladies with our cars too. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Comander TAT |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:48:00 -
[163] Jim you must realise by now that you are not wanted in curse ! If you need time to sort your stuff out so you can all leave I am sure we can arange safe passage for you out of the curse region you only have to ask we arnt like you , we need a reason to kill people !! TAT Comander TAT Tyrell Corporation Director Military Operations *** Proud Member of the Stain Aliance *** |
Comander TAT Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:48:00 -
[164] Jim you must realise by now that you are not wanted in curse ! If you need time to sort your stuff out so you can all leave I am sure we can arange safe passage for you out of the curse region you only have to ask we arnt like you , we need a reason to kill people !! TAT .......................................... Do you take it up the HOOP ? |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:54:00 -
[165]
Actually, Curse has always been our home, it has been since day one of Eve. You might notice we have uh.. about ten or so corporate offices in Curse since day one. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:54:00 -
[166]
Actually, Curse has always been our home, it has been since day one of Eve. You might notice we have uh.. about ten or so corporate offices in Curse since day one. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:56:00 -
[167]
nice to know you are aware of the outcome, we were starting to think you guys were dense "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:56:00 -
[168]
nice to know you are aware of the outcome, we were starting to think you guys were dense "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Claveman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:58:00 -
[169]Fubie, you are doing the right thing by severing ties with these people. They cannot win this war, we are too organized and powerful. I feel badly about the collateral damage that your people have suffered. As commander of the Everlasting Vendetta Falcon Wing, the PVP Wing of our Corp, I will give you my word as a gentleman, that once the pirate scum is dispatched from your region you will be left alone. Claveman Commander Falcon Wing |
 Claveman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 12:58:00 -
[170]Fubie, you are doing the right thing by severing ties with these people. They cannot win this war, we are too organized and powerful. I feel badly about the collateral damage that your people have suffered. As commander of the Everlasting Vendetta Falcon Wing, the PVP Wing of our Corp, I will give you my word as a gentleman, that once the pirate scum is dispatched from your region you will be left alone. Claveman Commander Falcon Wing |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:02:00 -
[171]
Haha you're the leader huh? That's sad, stop warping away from me okay?? ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:02:00 -
[172]
Haha you're the leader huh? That's sad, stop warping away from me okay?? ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:07:00 -
[173] There is two things only that I really value in a game like this and that is loyality and friendship. You stand up for those you are with. Backstabber makes me wanna puke. Pathetic scum is the only word I can find. I dislike SA and FA but that is mostly on a roleplay base. These hypocrites calling themselves however deserve the worst of fates. We have done nothing but fighting to defend your home from the moment we came here and you come here and accuse us for all kinds of things. And to SA and FA. How can you accept these clowns. I seriously thought MASS and Evol at least had the strong bounds and loyalities that many fighting corps have. If you are these people should disgust you as much as they do me. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
 Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:07:00 -
[174] There is two things only that I really value in a game like this and that is loyality and friendship. You stand up for those you are with. Backstabber makes me wanna puke. Pathetic scum is the only word I can find. I dislike SA and FA but that is mostly on a roleplay base. These hypocrites calling themselves however deserve the worst of fates. We have done nothing but fighting to defend your home from the moment we came here and you come here and accuse us for all kinds of things. And to SA and FA. How can you accept these clowns. I seriously thought MASS and Evol at least had the strong bounds and loyalities that many fighting corps have. If you are these people should disgust you as much as they do me. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:08:00 -
[175] Edited by: Yuen on 29/09/2003 13:31:42 At last the innocents and good-willed pilots in the Curse regions seems to have taken distance from the pirate scum that tried to ghostly occupy their region. This shows how many lies were said by the peolpe trying to explain the presence of PK Corps in the Curse Aliance. This shows that still many corps don't like pirates in their Alliance's ranks. This shows that there is no need of them, that went on with the piracy politic they alwais achieved, and I have new that PK activities were spot in Catch region too, son they weren't "defending" anything but they pirate's gamestyle. I honor you Fubie and all the other CEOs of the Curse Coalition for your capability to see what's wrong in the CA, and I hope many other corps in there will open their eyes before it will be too late. Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
 Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:08:00 -
[176] Edited by: Yuen on 29/09/2003 13:31:42 At last the innocents and good-willed pilots in the Curse regions seems to have taken distance from the pirate scum that tried to ghostly occupy their region. This shows how many lies were said by the peolpe trying to explain the presence of PK Corps in the Curse Aliance. This shows that still many corps don't like pirates in their Alliance's ranks. This shows that there is no need of them, that went on with the piracy politic they alwais achieved, and I have new that PK activities were spot in Catch region too, son they weren't "defending" anything but they pirate's gamestyle. I honor you Fubie and all the other CEOs of the Curse Coalition for your capability to see what's wrong in the CA, and I hope many other corps in there will open their eyes before it will be too late. Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:12:00 -
[177]
They are not the innocent good willed people. They are the spineless covards that didn't have the guts to stand up to SA and FA. They have proven they completely lack any honor and are only backstabbing crybabies. Anyone dealign with them should think twice. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:12:00 -
[178]
They are not the innocent good willed people. They are the spineless covards that didn't have the guts to stand up to SA and FA. They have proven they completely lack any honor and are only backstabbing crybabies. Anyone dealign with them should think twice. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Rebellion |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:16:00 -
[179] Mr Blonde, you have analyzed it rightly. However, I see no reason why Reclaimer or Raynor should stop. They are, after all, an invaluable aid in convincing people that this Curse Alliance is just a pirate haven. |
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:16:00 -
[180] Mr Blonde, you have analyzed it rightly. However, I see no reason why Reclaimer or Raynor should stop. They are, after all, an invaluable aid in convincing people that this Curse Alliance is just a pirate haven. |
Comander TAT |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:17:00 -
[181] you have defended us from who Noctoz you are the cancer in our region there was noone to defend us from before you came bringing all this **** with you and where does your so called curse alliance get off on trying to charge us 1 million isk per 10 corp members ? you honestly think we are going to pay you this so you pirates and griefers can get stronger and try and kill more of us ????????? Well i think not!! Get ready for the biggest kicking of your life !!! Comander TAT Tyrell Corporation Director Military Operations *** Proud Member of the Stain Aliance *** |
Comander TAT Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:17:00 -
[182] you have defended us from who Noctoz you are the cancer in our region there was noone to defend us from before you came bringing all this **** with you and where does your so called curse alliance get off on trying to charge us 1 million isk per 10 corp members ? you honestly think we are going to pay you this so you pirates and griefers can get stronger and try and kill more of us ????????? Well i think not!! Get ready for the biggest kicking of your life !!! .......................................... Do you take it up the HOOP ? |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:33:00 -
[183] YOU tried to fool them, now here's your payment Noctoz. And it's a good payment imho, you really deserve it. Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:33:00 -
[184] YOU tried to fool them, now here's your payment Noctoz. And it's a good payment imho, you really deserve it. Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Rust |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:36:00 -
[185] Edited by: Rust on 29/09/2003 13:43:07
Noctos - Surely you know you came to fight us? It has been made quite clear by Jim and others on this thread. Why do you think RUS allied with you after spending weeks trying to kill you all? They needed you to attack SA in gerneral, and MASS in particular, and we thank you for that. We are a fighting Corp, and I must say I am developing some respect for Sinister as fighters over the last few days. It seems that many of the Corps that allied with you are not primerally fighting corps and actually thought you were going to mine with them, and give up your pirating ways. So they welcomed you along with the Herod School of Baby Sitting that I understand set up an office in Curse as well. It was you who betrayed them - I have great deal of respect for them for admitting they were fooled, and to do something about it. |
Rust Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:36:00 -
[186] Edited by: Rust on 29/09/2003 13:43:07
Noctos - Surely you know you came to fight us? It has been made quite clear by Jim and others on this thread. Why do you think RUS allied with you after spending weeks trying to kill you all? They needed you to attack SA in gerneral, and MASS in particular, and we thank you for that. We are a fighting Corp, and I must say I am developing some respect for Sinister as fighters over the last few days. It seems that many of the Corps that allied with you are not primerally fighting corps and actually thought you were going to mine with them, and give up your pirating ways. So they welcomed you along with the Herod School of Baby Sitting that I understand set up an office in Curse as well. It was you who betrayed them - I have great deal of respect for them for admitting they were fooled, and to do something about it. |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:54:00 -
[187] Edited by: Alynthir on 29/09/2003 13:58:17 At last the gloves are off and I, for one, am happier for it. When Nexus Enterprises first came to Curse, it was to get away from all the care bears and noobs in battleships flying around in empire space. We had our run-ins with a few of the local small pirate corps, lost a few ships and then hunted them down and, with the help of a few friendly local corps, drove them out. This naturally led to the idea of working together, etc... Nexus then absorbed a couple smaller corps and proceeded to start working with others towards establishing a working Coalition. About halfway into this, we discovered that there was an existing "Alliance" in Curse already. We met with their people and even though they included Red Corsairs as part of their group, the Coalition corps agreed to a Non Aggression treaty. Over the course of the next couple weeks, what was known as the Eventide Treaty fell apart as Fubie and the other Coalition CEOs kept getting report after report of hostile activity. Then, out of the blue, Sinister and crew arrive. Nexus and the CC looked upon this as the defining moment of the Coalition: Exactly how far were we willing to go in order to maintain the peace? This was too much. The Coalition has always, first and foremost, been a defensive alliance. We do not go out and start fights for the sake of starting them or because we are bored. We have even gone to the aid of non-Coalition pilots under attack on numerous occasions. The bottom line is that, no, we did not want this war. However, that does not mean in any way that we lack the means or the resolve to fight it through to a successful conclusion. Personally, I'm thrilled at the prospect of a full blown war. The unfortunates side effect of this though is that there are a few players in CA corps whom I actually like (you know who you are) whom I must now shoot at. Sorry guys, but you are not an Alliance. You are a group of people who have let Sinister and their thug's reputations intimidate you into fighting a war.As far as STAIN is concerned, the Curse Coalition welcomes them if they wish to aid in driving the scum out of Curse. Thank you to our friends in Evolution and Everlasting Vendetta for their initial efforts thus far. Long live the Coalition and I'll see you all on the battlefields! _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5  |
 Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.09.29 13:54:00 -
[188] Edited by: Alynthir on 29/09/2003 13:58:17 At last the gloves are off and I, for one, am happier for it. When Nexus Enterprises first came to Curse, it was to get away from all the care bears and noobs in battleships flying around in empire space. We had our run-ins with a few of the local small pirate corps, lost a few ships and then hunted them down and, with the help of a few friendly local corps, drove them out. This naturally led to the idea of working together, etc... Nexus then absorbed a couple smaller corps and proceeded to start working with others towards establishing a working Coalition. About halfway into this, we discovered that there was an existing "Alliance" in Curse already. We met with their people and even though they included Red Corsairs as part of their group, the Coalition corps agreed to a Non Aggression treaty. Over the course of the next couple weeks, what was known as the Eventide Treaty fell apart as Fubie and the other Coalition CEOs kept getting report after report of hostile activity. Then, out of the blue, Sinister and crew arrive. Nexus and the CC looked upon this as the defining moment of the Coalition: Exactly how far were we willing to go in order to maintain the peace? This was too much. The Coalition has always, first and foremost, been a defensive alliance. We do not go out and start fights for the sake of starting them or because we are bored. We have even gone to the aid of non-Coalition pilots under attack on numerous occasions. The bottom line is that, no, we did not want this war. However, that does not mean in any way that we lack the means or the resolve to fight it through to a successful conclusion. Personally, I'm thrilled at the prospect of a full blown war. The unfortunates side effect of this though is that there are a few players in CA corps whom I actually like (you know who you are) whom I must now shoot at. Sorry guys, but you are not an Alliance. You are a group of people who have let Sinister and their thug's reputations intimidate you into fighting a war.As far as STAIN is concerned, the Curse Coalition welcomes them if they wish to aid in driving the scum out of Curse. Thank you to our friends in Evolution and Everlasting Vendetta for their initial efforts thus far. Long live the Coalition and I'll see you all on the battlefields! _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
DeadWeight |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:16:00 -
[189] Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:35:31 Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:32:59 Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:19:19 After reading through these posts, I've learned that many people simply think of Sinister when they hear of the Curse Alliance. Allow me to say what transpired from the position of our corporation. The Knights of the Minmatar Republic are a small proud corporation. We have never been pirates or killed innocents at this time or since our beginning. We also fought our share of pirates. We sat by and watched one region after the next be gobbled up in the hands of select corps calling themselves regional alliances. What most of the normal players don't realize is that regional alliances are much more dangerous than your normal gate camping pirates. Regional alliances close of entire sections of space to players, where as the gate campers will hold on to a gate or two. Regional alliances will demand that you get a 'pass'. Venal until recently was far too much of a flash point to go there, and the Fountain alliance charge 1 million isk a day just to hunt there. Stain on the other hand, say that you should eve mail this person or that for information on going there, but we never got a response. For a long time now we haven't been able to go to many good npc 0.0 regions because of other regional alliances. Curse was the last decent place we could go to and enjoy the riches of of mining and npc hunting, without straying too far from a station. We have come to call Curse our home. Little by little it became evident that the Stain Alliance was showing more interest in Curse. We saw more and more Stain Alliance (and MASS in particular) ships in Curse. It wasn't enough that MASS pilots had all of Stain to hunt in, they had to come to Curse and hunt there as well. We began to obtain information that plans to annex Curse were imminent. We decided that enough was enough. We would not be bullied away from any of our choice spots. We were still angry from being forced to abandon the Venal region when the Venal Alliance was formed. So when the threat became imminent and the alliance a reality, we joined up to defend our home. People point to Sinister and say that we are all lawless. The fact is that CA has been under constant attack since its inception, and all combat pilots have been tasked for combat. I don't know where these claims of piracy come from. I know that none of my pilots have fired on anyone who was not a declared enemy of ours. Since joining the alliance I have come to admire the dedication, professionalism and conviction of our new found friends. We did not enter the alliance simply to give us time (like the curse coalition did) to stab them in the back. Our word is our bond, and we will live and we will die by it. The likes of the Curse Coalition will never enjoy such a relationship with anyone else, since we all know what is the value of their word. |
 DeadWeight Minmatar Botox Bandits |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:16:00 -
[190] Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:35:31 Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:32:59 Edited by: DeadWeight on 29/09/2003 14:19:19 After reading through these posts, I've learned that many people simply think of Sinister when they hear of the Curse Alliance. Allow me to say what transpired from the position of our corporation. The Knights of the Minmatar Republic are a small proud corporation. We have never been pirates or killed innocents at this time or since our beginning. We also fought our share of pirates. We sat by and watched one region after the next be gobbled up in the hands of select corps calling themselves regional alliances. What most of the normal players don't realize is that regional alliances are much more dangerous than your normal gate camping pirates. Regional alliances close of entire sections of space to players, where as the gate campers will hold on to a gate or two. Regional alliances will demand that you get a 'pass'. Venal until recently was far too much of a flash point to go there, and the Fountain alliance charge 1 million isk a day just to hunt there. Stain on the other hand, say that you should eve mail this person or that for information on going there, but we never got a response. For a long time now we haven't been able to go to many good npc 0.0 regions because of other regional alliances. Curse was the last decent place we could go to and enjoy the riches of of mining and npc hunting, without straying too far from a station. We have come to call Curse our home. Little by little it became evident that the Stain Alliance was showing more interest in Curse. We saw more and more Stain Alliance (and MASS in particular) ships in Curse. It wasn't enough that MASS pilots had all of Stain to hunt in, they had to come to Curse and hunt there as well. We began to obtain information that plans to annex Curse were imminent. We decided that enough was enough. We would not be bullied away from any of our choice spots. We were still angry from being forced to abandon the Venal region when the Venal Alliance was formed. So when the threat became imminent and the alliance a reality, we joined up to defend our home. People point to Sinister and say that we are all lawless. The fact is that CA has been under constant attack since its inception, and all combat pilots have been tasked for combat. I don't know where these claims of piracy come from. I know that none of my pilots have fired on anyone who was not a declared enemy of ours. Since joining the alliance I have come to admire the dedication, professionalism and conviction of our new found friends. We did not enter the alliance simply to give us time (like the curse coalition did) to stab them in the back. Our word is our bond, and we will live and we will die by it. The likes of the Curse Coalition will never enjoy such a relationship with anyone else, since we all know what is the value of their word. |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:23:00 -
[191] "Our word is our bond, and we will live and we will die by it. The likes of the Curse Coalition will never enjoy such a relationship with anyone else, since we all know what is the value of their word." your absolutely right Sinister and their ilk are much more trustworthy I'm sure they would never turn on you. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:23:00 -
[192] "Our word is our bond, and we will live and we will die by it. The likes of the Curse Coalition will never enjoy such a relationship with anyone else, since we all know what is the value of their word." your absolutely right Sinister and their ilk are much more trustworthy I'm sure they would never turn on you. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:29:00 -
[193]
No we whould not. I have never in my entire life betrayed one single person who have stood by me and I never intend to. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:29:00 -
[194]
No we whould not. I have never in my entire life betrayed one single person who have stood by me and I never intend to. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:30:00 -
[195] "No we whould not. I have never in my entire life betrayed one single person who have stood by me and I never intend to." nice to know you only betray people in groups "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:30:00 -
[196] "No we whould not. I have never in my entire life betrayed one single person who have stood by me and I never intend to." nice to know you only betray people in groups "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:35:00 -
[197]
Well who whould that be? ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:35:00 -
[198]
Well who whould that be? ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:41:00 -
[199] "Well who whould that be?" you know...... you should really start reading a thread from the beginning instead of the end, obviously you missed the original post or you would know that we the coalition fell not just a little betrayed by you, if you are having problems with the big words get your older brother to help you sound them out. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:41:00 -
[200] "Well who whould that be?" you know...... you should really start reading a thread from the beginning instead of the end, obviously you missed the original post or you would know that we the coalition fell not just a little betrayed by you, if you are having problems with the big words get your older brother to help you sound them out. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
TerrorDactyl |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:57:00 -
[201]
Those are shameful comments about my friend. Fubie spends hours and hours just trying to setup a fun playing environment for the people in his corp. The poor guy pays his monthly fee like we all do and he hardly ever gets to see the fun bits in the game. Most of his time is taken up with the admin/political parts of the game which go on in the chat channels. Rarely does he get to fly and have fun, thats because he sacrifices so much of his personal time for his friends. He is not a liar and backstabber like you say he is. He is a man of honor. |
 TerrorDactyl Amarr Dinosaurs UK |
Posted - 2003.09.29 14:57:00 -
[202]
Those are shameful comments about my friend. Fubie spends hours and hours just trying to setup a fun playing environment for the people in his corp. The poor guy pays his monthly fee like we all do and he hardly ever gets to see the fun bits in the game. Most of his time is taken up with the admin/political parts of the game which go on in the chat channels. Rarely does he get to fly and have fun, thats because he sacrifices so much of his personal time for his friends. He is not a liar and backstabber like you say he is. He is a man of honor. |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:03:00 -
[203]
Personal attacks... should have seen this coming. Please for gods sake keep this in the spirit of what this is. A GAME. I have no personal qualms with any of the stain or fa people. It whould be as ridicolous as hating someone for winning a game of warcraft against me. And I have read the entire thread but the original post is nothing but lies. We have not attacked any of our allies intentionally. If this have happened anythign lost have or will be replaced. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:03:00 -
[204]
Personal attacks... should have seen this coming. Please for gods sake keep this in the spirit of what this is. A GAME. I have no personal qualms with any of the stain or fa people. It whould be as ridicolous as hating someone for winning a game of warcraft against me. And I have read the entire thread but the original post is nothing but lies. We have not attacked any of our allies intentionally. If this have happened anythign lost have or will be replaced. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:11:00 -
[205] "And I have read the entire thread but the original post is nothing but lies. We have not attacked any of our allies intentionally. If this have happened anythign lost have or will be replaced." Good. I have lost my home, Give it back p.s. I meant your characters big brother of course, nothing personal "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:11:00 -
[206] "And I have read the entire thread but the original post is nothing but lies. We have not attacked any of our allies intentionally. If this have happened anythign lost have or will be replaced." Good. I have lost my home, Give it back p.s. I meant your characters big brother of course, nothing personal "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:24:00 -
[207]
You turned your backs on the people that were fighting to defend it to cozy up to the people who want to take it from you.. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:24:00 -
[208]
You turned your backs on the people that were fighting to defend it to cozy up to the people who want to take it from you.. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:30:00 -
[209] "You turned your backs on the people that were fighting to defend it to cozy up to the people who want to take it from you.." Gee and thanks ever so much we all feel much safer now that it is you guys chasing us around and shooting at us, what would we ever do without you ? And again I will refer you to the original post, it is US who are defending our home, YOU would be the people trying to take it from us. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:30:00 -
[210] "You turned your backs on the people that were fighting to defend it to cozy up to the people who want to take it from you.." Gee and thanks ever so much we all feel much safer now that it is you guys chasing us around and shooting at us, what would we ever do without you ? And again I will refer you to the original post, it is US who are defending our home, YOU would be the people trying to take it from us. "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:35:00 -
[211]
No, he "cleared his mind", and realized that only when the corps such as Sinister is out of Curse, and only then, can there be peace in Curse. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:35:00 -
[212]
No, he "cleared his mind", and realized that only when the corps such as Sinister is out of Curse, and only then, can there be peace in Curse. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
XirtamVotf |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:41:00 -
[213] Firstly I would like to say that this is rather a peculiar thread by Fubie. I will also say that he hired pirate corps SINC etc to come into curse and kill the Curse Alliance and this is a fact.(he couldnt do it himself). His Corp was always trying to gain control(power trip) in the 3 main alliances that were there from day one. Im sure most of you know Nomads, VOTf, etc that were there prior to this alliance and there was NEVER acts of piracy by any of ours Corps. It was Fubies admirals stupidity that caused most of the problems by shooting friendlies that they accuse SINC of and others. Fubie I also have a recorded Convo of the meeting and the other convos with Leyla. Your worse than a pirate. I will also add that our friends do know us, and Im sure that everyone that is interested can easily pull up the map on any given day and see that it is Curse that is defending its home and not wanton acts of piracy as you claim Fubie. Your cowardice, and dishonorable acts only show your true character. Your not fooling anyone Fubie, and No PR will save you. As for Mass, etc they attacked us first, and Quobra from Nomads will vouch for this 100% as him and I were in convo with Trigger from Mass. And to quote Trigger "We need to expand " was the reason that was truly at heart for their attacks on Curse. There are several alliances that Know for a fact of what is going on as they actually look at map from time to time, and Mass and the likes day are coming. To me the pot calling the kettle black is rather redundant, and Mass and SA have in short done far worse than pirate by cutting off stain from all who want to go there without paying them. Also giving ultimatums by SA were also acts of piracy like Triggers "do what we say or else" attitude. Fubie all I can say that your "FLY BY NIGHT ALLEIGANCE" are now known by all, and your flag flies to whoever is there at the moment, and who you can bribe to do your dirty work . If you told me the sky was blue I'd actually have to go outside and look. Be careful Fubie what web you weave, you may end up being the fly that that you are. |
 XirtamVotf Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:41:00 -
[214] Firstly I would like to say that this is rather a peculiar thread by Fubie. I will also say that he hired pirate corps SINC etc to come into curse and kill the Curse Alliance and this is a fact.(he couldnt do it himself). His Corp was always trying to gain control(power trip) in the 3 main alliances that were there from day one. Im sure most of you know Nomads, VOTf, etc that were there prior to this alliance and there was NEVER acts of piracy by any of ours Corps. It was Fubies admirals stupidity that caused most of the problems by shooting friendlies that they accuse SINC of and others. Fubie I also have a recorded Convo of the meeting and the other convos with Leyla. Your worse than a pirate. I will also add that our friends do know us, and Im sure that everyone that is interested can easily pull up the map on any given day and see that it is Curse that is defending its home and not wanton acts of piracy as you claim Fubie. Your cowardice, and dishonorable acts only show your true character. Your not fooling anyone Fubie, and No PR will save you. As for Mass, etc they attacked us first, and Quobra from Nomads will vouch for this 100% as him and I were in convo with Trigger from Mass. And to quote Trigger "We need to expand " was the reason that was truly at heart for their attacks on Curse. There are several alliances that Know for a fact of what is going on as they actually look at map from time to time, and Mass and the likes day are coming. To me the pot calling the kettle black is rather redundant, and Mass and SA have in short done far worse than pirate by cutting off stain from all who want to go there without paying them. Also giving ultimatums by SA were also acts of piracy like Triggers "do what we say or else" attitude. Fubie all I can say that your "FLY BY NIGHT ALLEIGANCE" are now known by all, and your flag flies to whoever is there at the moment, and who you can bribe to do your dirty work . If you told me the sky was blue I'd actually have to go outside and look. Be careful Fubie what web you weave, you may end up being the fly that that you are. |
TerrorDactyl |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:44:00 -
[215] Sadly Xirtam, everyone already knows that VOTF are made up of alts from the Red Corsairs pirate corp, so who is gonna listen to your nonsense hmmm? |
TerrorDactyl Amarr Dinosaurs UK |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:44:00 -
[216] Sadly Xirtam, everyone already knows that VOTF are made up of alts from the Red Corsairs pirate corp, so who is gonna listen to your nonsense hmmm? |
Jim Raynor |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:47:00 -
[217]
Uh, ya and then you guys come take over Curse and boot everyone out, and it becomes another Stain controlled region, why don't you guys just 'fess up? This is what this is all about, Stain taking over another region, one that has more bistot than say, yours? You guys had interest in Curse before we even got there.. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE |
Jim Raynor Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2003.09.29 15:47:00 -
[218]
Uh, ya and then you guys come take over Curse and boot everyone out, and it becomes another Stain controlled region, why don't you guys just 'fess up? This is what this is all about, Stain taking over another region, one that has more bistot than say, yours? You guys had interest in Curse before we even got there.. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
XirtamVotf |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:02:00 -
[219] TERROR, LOL, you are the biggest laugh I have ever seen, and this is why CC will go down in flames. Your intell lacks any intelligence at all. Your so called facts are scewed with rediculous claims. Your entire CC is made up of backstabbers, liars, and cowards that hire other corps to do their dirty work. Hmmm... lets have Fubie deny that.. looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. |
XirtamVotf Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:02:00 -
[220] TERROR, LOL, you are the biggest laugh I have ever seen, and this is why CC will go down in flames. Your intell lacks any intelligence at all. Your so called facts are scewed with rediculous claims. Your entire CC is made up of backstabbers, liars, and cowards that hire other corps to do their dirty work. Hmmm... lets have Fubie deny that.. looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:15:00 -
[221] Xirtam, you are a real piece of work. Three days after the CC agreed to a NA pact with the CA, you and your buddies opened fire on Flum, one of our Scorpion pilots, as he approached a gate in Curse. No warning, no hails, nothing. In fact, YOU were present and were firing as well. This was well before any other acts of agression. As for Fubie hiring Sinister... dude, that's insane. I mean, we want Sinister OUT!! Why would we hire them?? To kill you? Please. Your endless litany of, "Me people are perfect; they can do no wrong!!" got old weeks ago. You accuse Fubie and Nexus of being power hungry? No. We have no desire to do anything other than get the thugs out of Curse. ***** and moan and make all the claims you want to. Anyone who has been in Curse for the past several weeks know you and yours for what they are, and it's not as Protectors of Curse. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:15:00 -
[222] Xirtam, you are a real piece of work. Three days after the CC agreed to a NA pact with the CA, you and your buddies opened fire on Flum, one of our Scorpion pilots, as he approached a gate in Curse. No warning, no hails, nothing. In fact, YOU were present and were firing as well. This was well before any other acts of agression. As for Fubie hiring Sinister... dude, that's insane. I mean, we want Sinister OUT!! Why would we hire them?? To kill you? Please. Your endless litany of, "Me people are perfect; they can do no wrong!!" got old weeks ago. You accuse Fubie and Nexus of being power hungry? No. We have no desire to do anything other than get the thugs out of Curse. ***** and moan and make all the claims you want to. Anyone who has been in Curse for the past several weeks know you and yours for what they are, and it's not as Protectors of Curse. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
UnIQu3 |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:20:00 -
[223] Who said it was empty for bistot? |
UnIQu3 Amarr DarkStar 1 |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:20:00 -
[224] Who said it was empty for bistot? |
XirtamVotf |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:23:00 -
[225] LOL Alyhtir, the only piece here is you, I would dare to say that Mimitars of the republic, nomads, STK , ROT etc would disagree with your pathethic deluded PR. Tsk TSk, what a bunch of uniformed spin doctors you are. Like Fubie didnt hire SINc ? LOL. |
XirtamVotf Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:23:00 -
[226] LOL Alyhtir, the only piece here is you, I would dare to say that Mimitars of the republic, nomads, STK , ROT etc would disagree with your pathethic deluded PR. Tsk TSk, what a bunch of uniformed spin doctors you are. Like Fubie didnt hire SINc ? LOL. |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:28:00 -
[227]
Damn, at least I spelled your name right! If Fubie hired Sinister, what were they paid? What was to be their reward? Does someone have a receipt? And the last time I checked, Sinister was part of the CA, not the CC. Bah. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Fubie |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:28:00 -
[228]
Xirtam, Please show me a screenshot of the log where I payed Sinc to come in and... Uhhh, Rescue us? Come on! There are hundreds of people who have been shot and killed by RC/VOTF and 98% of them were noobs or in lone indy's. These people will not believe you. why would they? Plus, I would like to know how much I payed Sinc to come to Curse? ------------------------- |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:28:00 -
[229]
Damn, at least I spelled your name right! If Fubie hired Sinister, what were they paid? What was to be their reward? Does someone have a receipt? And the last time I checked, Sinister was part of the CA, not the CC. Bah. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Fubie Amarr Nexus Enterprises |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:28:00 -
[230]
Xirtam, Please show me a screenshot of the log where I payed Sinc to come in and... Uhhh, Rescue us? Come on! There are hundreds of people who have been shot and killed by RC/VOTF and 98% of them were noobs or in lone indy's. These people will not believe you. why would they? Plus, I would like to know how much I payed Sinc to come to Curse? ------------------------- |
Civil Deity |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:48:00 -
[231] You will have to excuse all the flaming by the CA. You might have noticed it stopped for a few days. But now that they are out of ships the flaming will continue :). EV welcomes the CC and looks forward to their help. Less than 12 hours and you guys manage to flame 7 pages. ThatÆs crazy why donÆt you appoint a spokesperson and save yourselves the embarrassment Civil Deity Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out: www.everlastingvendetta.com |
 Civil Deity Minmatar Infinite Void |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:48:00 -
[232] You will have to excuse all the flaming by the CA. You might have noticed it stopped for a few days. But now that they are out of ships the flaming will continue :). EV welcomes the CC and looks forward to their help. Less than 12 hours and you guys manage to flame 7 pages. ThatÆs crazy why donÆt you appoint a spokesperson and save yourselves the embarrassment Civil Deity Wanna kill pirates? Join EV! Join SA! check us out: www.everlastingvendetta.com |
Taint |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:49:00 -
[233] The Cosmology coorporation are proud to be part of the Curse coalition. We've been in Curse for ages and we are prepared to die before giving up our rightfull homes. |
 Taint |
Posted - 2003.09.29 16:49:00 -
[234] The Cosmology coorporation are proud to be part of the Curse coalition. We've been in Curse for ages and we are prepared to die before giving up our rightfull homes. |
Uzael |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:04:00 -
[235] Edited by: Uzael on 29/09/2003 17:10:10 Edited by: Uzael on 29/09/2003 17:09:03 Xirtam, please do post this screen shot you have of us paying off sinister, I would very much like to see it also. While you do that we will post the screen shot of your "Perfect" corp mates and yourself firing on a ship you had a non-aggression pact with. You see Xir, what you have here is called "Burden of proof" which means you have no proof to back up your claims while we do. Which is why you and yours resort to petty name calling and swearing at our members, because you have nothing else to present here. Your actions are childish to say the least and it is well know you are Sinister's lap dog now. Tell me does your corp enjoy the fact that their CEO is nothing more than a yes man to another corp. If you want to be ruled by them fine, we have no problem with that. However we are not willing to submit our members and our corp to abuse by your masters, or you for that matter. And I know how you will respond to this, with insults and swearing and generally child like behavior, but thats ok because we are above you and your petty taunts. Now lets look at some facts. Fact, Sinster is attempting to impose a tax on all members in their alliance, why you ask? Because they have been so disrupted by Stain they are starting to have a hard time replacing ships. This, coupled with Evol's stikes on HLW have put them in a bad state, so they have decided that every corp should pay 100,000 per member, per week to be in their little club. For the last couple days I have listened to them yell FALL BACK, and GO TO A SAFE POINT! more times than Ive ever seen before. This in my opinion means Stain is doing an excellent job taking out the trash. Fact 2, Xirtam and his boys try to use the corps below them in the alliance as distractions so they can escape Stain, point in case. Sinister tells Nexus and Tyrell corp to jump through HLW gate so they can follow and then help us. What was on the other side of said gate? Evolution. We knew they wouldnt come to help and we knew why we were to jump first, really Sinsiter, did you think we would be dumb enough to do it? These are just some small examples of how these guys operate. I could sit here all day and tell you about the misadventures of VTOF and their friends, but frankly it gets boring talking about them after a while. P.S. Thank you Stain for allowing me to speak with you at the blockade the other night, I appreciate your understanding attitude and your willingness to listen before firing. It shows the great integrity and honor the Stain alliance has. -------------- UZAEL |
 Uzael Amarr Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:04:00 -
[236] Edited by: Uzael on 29/09/2003 17:10:10 Edited by: Uzael on 29/09/2003 17:09:03 Xirtam, please do post this screen shot you have of us paying off sinister, I would very much like to see it also. While you do that we will post the screen shot of your "Perfect" corp mates and yourself firing on a ship you had a non-aggression pact with. You see Xir, what you have here is called "Burden of proof" which means you have no proof to back up your claims while we do. Which is why you and yours resort to petty name calling and swearing at our members, because you have nothing else to present here. Your actions are childish to say the least and it is well know you are Sinister's lap dog now. Tell me does your corp enjoy the fact that their CEO is nothing more than a yes man to another corp. If you want to be ruled by them fine, we have no problem with that. However we are not willing to submit our members and our corp to abuse by your masters, or you for that matter. And I know how you will respond to this, with insults and swearing and generally child like behavior, but thats ok because we are above you and your petty taunts. Now lets look at some facts. Fact, Sinster is attempting to impose a tax on all members in their alliance, why you ask? Because they have been so disrupted by Stain they are starting to have a hard time replacing ships. This, coupled with Evol's stikes on HLW have put them in a bad state, so they have decided that every corp should pay 100,000 per member, per week to be in their little club. For the last couple days I have listened to them yell FALL BACK, and GO TO A SAFE POINT! more times than Ive ever seen before. This in my opinion means Stain is doing an excellent job taking out the trash. Fact 2, Xirtam and his boys try to use the corps below them in the alliance as distractions so they can escape Stain, point in case. Sinister tells Nexus and Tyrell corp to jump through HLW gate so they can follow and then help us. What was on the other side of said gate? Evolution. We knew they wouldnt come to help and we knew why we were to jump first, really Sinsiter, did you think we would be dumb enough to do it? These are just some small examples of how these guys operate. I could sit here all day and tell you about the misadventures of VTOF and their friends, but frankly it gets boring talking about them after a while. P.S. Thank you Stain for allowing me to speak with you at the blockade the other night, I appreciate your understanding attitude and your willingness to listen before firing. It shows the great integrity and honor the Stain alliance has. -------------- UZAEL |
KilROCK |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:40:00 -
[237] The CC stole all my fiddle faddle and gooey num nums.  |
Xen0 |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:40:00 -
[238] The Curse alliance makes me want to gag, go stick a sock in it. You bore me Xen0 > emote/yawns -=/Bah\=- |
 KilROCK Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:40:00 -
[239] The CC stole all my fiddle faddle and gooey num nums. |
 Xen0 Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:40:00 -
[240] The Curse alliance makes me want to gag, go stick a sock in it. You bore me Xen0 > emote/yawns -=/Bah\=- |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:45:00 -
[241] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:48:33 Fubie did not make this declaration unilaterally. The Curse Coalition CEOs all agreed on our stance. So, quit busting his chops. The Curse Coalition consists of sixteen different corporations with (at last count) 368 members. No, I wonÆt post a list of the CC members but I will happily send one to the Stain and Fountain Alliance CEOs upon request. Curse Coalition member corps should all have ***Proud Member of the Curse Coalition*** in their corporation description. Yes, we played nice and agreed to join this alliance of *******s (buttocks orifices). Once we realized our new friends had no intentions of being a legitimate alliance we quickly got our people to safe locations and severed our ties the pirates. Pirates and those who support them will not be aloud to operate freely in Curse. It will take time and we have no illusions this will be an easy fight but we will remove this blight from Curse and we will join forces with anyone who has the same goal. Scragg Birds of Prey *** Pround member of the Curse Coalition *** P.S. There is the BoPs answer to the CA "Tax". We do not support piracy. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
 Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:45:00 -
[242] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:48:33 Fubie did not make this declaration unilaterally. The Curse Coalition CEOs all agreed on our stance. So, quit busting his chops. The Curse Coalition consists of sixteen different corporations with (at last count) 368 members. No, I wonÆt post a list of the CC members but I will happily send one to the Stain and Fountain Alliance CEOs upon request. Curse Coalition member corps should all have ***Proud Member of the Curse Coalition*** in their corporation description. Yes, we played nice and agreed to join this alliance of *******s (buttocks orifices). Once we realized our new friends had no intentions of being a legitimate alliance we quickly got our people to safe locations and severed our ties the pirates. Pirates and those who support them will not be aloud to operate freely in Curse. It will take time and we have no illusions this will be an easy fight but we will remove this blight from Curse and we will join forces with anyone who has the same goal. Scragg Birds of Prey *** Pround member of the Curse Coalition *** P.S. There is the BoPs answer to the CA "Tax". We do not support piracy. |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:55:00 -
[243] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:56:56
Xirt, May I recommend this link Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.09.29 17:55:00 -
[244] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:56:56
Xirt, May I recommend this link |
Joviah |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:03:00 -
[245] Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joviah, CEO of Magrathea Heavy Industries. Many of you may know my name from in-game encounters, however I do not post on the official boards very much. This is due in-part because I choose to spend my time acting on my opinions, rather than ranting and raving about them. However, let it be known that Magrathea Heavy Industries (EMHI) has been in the Curse Region for some time now. We were part of the alliances that were there BEFORE Sinister and their friends decided to move in. When reports first began pouring in that Sinister was in town, we (being our alliance) negotiated a NAP with them, in order to give ourselves a bit of breathing room until our course of action could be chosen. This was taken fully out of context by Sinister and they began considering us a part of their "Curse Alliance," which I deeply regret. EMHI fully supports Fubie and Nexus Enterprises, as well as Tyrell and the other Curse Coalition members. This is due to our corporation standing towards piracy, and all of our members have sworn to fight pirates to the end. Our main objective at this point is to assist the alliances opposing Sinister and their friends in the clearing of pirate forces in Curse. Our secondary objective is to keep Curse a friendly area for pilots to fly in. ALL of our corporate assets will be aimed at these goals. Let me give you a bit of history regarding this, as it seems the rumors are flying fast and furious: Sinister, specifically Leyla, gives out alot of lip service about their corporation and their allies not being pirates. I assure you that they are, and always have been. They show no signs of changing their ways, and are so piratical that they even shoot their own allies. Hell, half of them don't even know who they are fighting, or why. Another point -- this past Saturday there was a meeting, chaired by Sinister, in order to organize the corporations in the alliance. They claim to have invited all CEO's to this meeting. I'm here to tell you, not all of the CEO's got an invite to that little charade. And from what I hear, the meeting was nothing but a bunch of hot-tempered little boys and girls talking about how much they wanted to kill Stain and Fountain Alliances. They also want to levy a tax on the members of the Curse Alliance based on the number of personnel in the respective corporation. This is completely unacceptable, especially when one takes Sinister's historical track record into account. Our breathing room has now paid off in full, and we now know who our friends are and are not. It also gave us some time to eat the Curse Alliance away from the inside, spreading mis-information on the inside, and providing information to Stain and Fountain when appropriate. On behalf of the Curse Coalition, I would like to say one last thing to the mambers of the Curse Alliance -- LEAVE. Leave Curse now, and we will not hunt you down. Leave Curse and go back to wherever you came from. We care not where you go, nor what happens to you. All we care about is having a safe spot for our personnel to progress through their EVE careers, and we are prepared to fight alongside the military forces that support us. I will also stress that the Coalition has been paid off by noone. Nobody has offered us anything but friendship and courteous chat since we've come forward, and even before then. Get ready Sin/RUS/Red Corsairs/m0o -- we're coming for you. Joviah Director, Cirrius Technologies |
 Joviah Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:03:00 -
[246] Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joviah, CEO of Magrathea Heavy Industries. Many of you may know my name from in-game encounters, however I do not post on the official boards very much. This is due in-part because I choose to spend my time acting on my opinions, rather than ranting and raving about them. However, let it be known that Magrathea Heavy Industries (EMHI) has been in the Curse Region for some time now. We were part of the alliances that were there BEFORE Sinister and their friends decided to move in. When reports first began pouring in that Sinister was in town, we (being our alliance) negotiated a NAP with them, in order to give ourselves a bit of breathing room until our course of action could be chosen. This was taken fully out of context by Sinister and they began considering us a part of their "Curse Alliance," which I deeply regret. EMHI fully supports Fubie and Nexus Enterprises, as well as Tyrell and the other Curse Coalition members. This is due to our corporation standing towards piracy, and all of our members have sworn to fight pirates to the end. Our main objective at this point is to assist the alliances opposing Sinister and their friends in the clearing of pirate forces in Curse. Our secondary objective is to keep Curse a friendly area for pilots to fly in. ALL of our corporate assets will be aimed at these goals. Let me give you a bit of history regarding this, as it seems the rumors are flying fast and furious: Sinister, specifically Leyla, gives out alot of lip service about their corporation and their allies not being pirates. I assure you that they are, and always have been. They show no signs of changing their ways, and are so piratical that they even shoot their own allies. Hell, half of them don't even know who they are fighting, or why. Another point -- this past Saturday there was a meeting, chaired by Sinister, in order to organize the corporations in the alliance. They claim to have invited all CEO's to this meeting. I'm here to tell you, not all of the CEO's got an invite to that little charade. And from what I hear, the meeting was nothing but a bunch of hot-tempered little boys and girls talking about how much they wanted to kill Stain and Fountain Alliances. They also want to levy a tax on the members of the Curse Alliance based on the number of personnel in the respective corporation. This is completely unacceptable, especially when one takes Sinister's historical track record into account. Our breathing room has now paid off in full, and we now know who our friends are and are not. It also gave us some time to eat the Curse Alliance away from the inside, spreading mis-information on the inside, and providing information to Stain and Fountain when appropriate. On behalf of the Curse Coalition, I would like to say one last thing to the mambers of the Curse Alliance -- LEAVE. Leave Curse now, and we will not hunt you down. Leave Curse and go back to wherever you came from. We care not where you go, nor what happens to you. All we care about is having a safe spot for our personnel to progress through their EVE careers, and we are prepared to fight alongside the military forces that support us. I will also stress that the Coalition has been paid off by noone. Nobody has offered us anything but friendship and courteous chat since we've come forward, and even before then. Get ready Sin/RUS/Red Corsairs/m0o -- we're coming for you. |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:05:00 -
[247] You should all just get over yourselves... Take a step back and realise its just a game... 1 week to go.... -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
 Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:05:00 -
[248] You should all just get over yourselves... Take a step back and realise its just a game... 1 week to go.... -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Intruders |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 -
[249]
Sorry to bud in but as a Curse citizen personally and other that I know off have never been attacked inside Curse region in any solar system, after the war begun I had postponed my travels in and out Curse to around PO4F-3 a 6 station system, that seems to be the system that CEO of Nexus Fubie resides, ass I see him in system all the time, appart from that I see close to none from Nexus appart from a few random logins, which ofcourse were more before the war erupts. I ve been talking to guys with other corps stationed in the area and it seems they dont play much lately. I never saw a TYRELL member in Curse but yet again I might not have travelled through the systems that they reside, though before the war I dont remember seeing anyone of them since I often traveled to nearby station systems and to the best hunting spots the Curse has to offer. What I have understood from the whole situation is that since the CA seemd friendly I believe they decided to settle down and play nice, for some unknown to me reason SA and FA attacked an industrial ship and claimed Curse and Stain regions as warzones. I also do remember that when I stated my oppinion as SA attack to the indy pilot to be unfair someone from SA called me a lier and with no credibility although I never had anythink to do against SA before. That is as much as I understand as a bystander from this whole situation by now. Last night I noticed a member from FA corp. Old Farts "Cujo" and a pilot named Dobbo and Nexus CEO Fubie together inside POF4-3 at late night hours, and after 30 mins I witnesed Fubie's post in the general discussions forum, which is now moved to this forum. my 2 cents Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 -
[250]
The first line says it all. We all know what kind of stories begin with "once upon a time". The facts to note: The Red Corsairs where members of and supported by the old Curse Alliance. Pirates and those who support them will not be tolerated by the Curse Coalition in any way, shape, or form. The only reason we even agreed on the NAP with the old CA was because we where informed the Red Corsairs had agreed to give up piracy. As previously stated we are willing to be open minded and give people who have seen the error of their ways a chance at a legitimate living. The Red Corsairs did not give up piracy and when they started shooting at our members we went after them and their supporters. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 -
[251]
The first line says it all. We all know what kind of stories begin with "once upon a time". The facts to note: The Red Corsairs where members of and supported by the old Curse Alliance. Pirates and those who support them will not be tolerated by the Curse Coalition in any way, shape, or form. The only reason we even agreed on the NAP with the old CA was because we where informed the Red Corsairs had agreed to give up piracy. As previously stated we are willing to be open minded and give people who have seen the error of their ways a chance at a legitimate living. The Red Corsairs did not give up piracy and when they started shooting at our members we went after them and their supporters. |
 Intruders |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 -
[252]
Sorry to bud in but as a Curse citizen personally and other that I know off have never been attacked inside Curse region in any solar system, after the war begun I had postponed my travels in and out Curse to around PO4F-3 a 6 station system, that seems to be the system that CEO of Nexus Fubie resides, ass I see him in system all the time, appart from that I see close to none from Nexus appart from a few random logins, which ofcourse were more before the war erupts. I ve been talking to guys with other corps stationed in the area and it seems they dont play much lately. I never saw a TYRELL member in Curse but yet again I might not have travelled through the systems that they reside, though before the war I dont remember seeing anyone of them since I often traveled to nearby station systems and to the best hunting spots the Curse has to offer. What I have understood from the whole situation is that since the CA seemd friendly I believe they decided to settle down and play nice, for some unknown to me reason SA and FA attacked an industrial ship and claimed Curse and Stain regions as warzones. I also do remember that when I stated my oppinion as SA attack to the indy pilot to be unfair someone from SA called me a lier and with no credibility although I never had anythink to do against SA before. That is as much as I understand as a bystander from this whole situation by now. Last night I noticed a member from FA corp. Old Farts "Cujo" and a pilot named Dobbo and Nexus CEO Fubie together inside POF4-3 at late night hours, and after 30 mins I witnesed Fubie's post in the general discussions forum, which is now moved to this forum. my 2 cents Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux |
Beneb |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:34:00 -
[253] If anyone thinks that Votf and the Red Corsairs are the same people you are the dumbest human beings on the face of this earth. These two corps are allies not alts. Our corp has left Curse because of all the bugs in the game, which caused many of our members to quit (just check the Corp. forum). I don't care what is going on because I'm not involved. Everyone realise that VOTF and Red Corsairs are different corps. Votf members have Votf in their name because they are a group of players from other games that were in the same guilds. Hence, they all pu Votf in their name. I can't express how stupid you are if you believe they are alts. Playing golf is like playing fetch without the dog. |
 Beneb Minmatar Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:34:00 -
[254] If anyone thinks that Votf and the Red Corsairs are the same people you are the dumbest human beings on the face of this earth. These two corps are allies not alts. Our corp has left Curse because of all the bugs in the game, which caused many of our members to quit (just check the Corp. forum). I don't care what is going on because I'm not involved. Everyone realise that VOTF and Red Corsairs are different corps. Votf members have Votf in their name because they are a group of players from other games that were in the same guilds. Hence, they all pu Votf in their name. I can't express how stupid you are if you believe they are alts. Playing golf is like playing fetch without the dog. |
Sarkos |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 -
[255] Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51 Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly. In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect. I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates. When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers. When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources. Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie? While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains. For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
Sarkos Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 -
[256] Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51 Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly. In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect. I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates. When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers. When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources. Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie? While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains. For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
Comander TAT |
Posted - 2003.09.29 19:05:00 -
[257] Defend agains who Sarkos ? untill last week there was noone to defend against appart from a few disorganised pirates ??????? most of us dont have a problem if any of the sa want to come to curse for whatever reason so what makes youi think we need to defend curse from anyone ? the curse coalition was origionally set up to keep curse open for anyone that wants to come here , knowing they wouldnt get attacked by griefing pirates . since you lot came here you have started a war that never needed fighting in the first place. so stop using as an excuse for blatant piracey !!!! Comander TAT Tyrell Corporation Director Military Operations *** Proud Member of the Stain Aliance *** |
Comander TAT Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E |
Posted - 2003.09.29 19:05:00 -
[258] Defend agains who Sarkos ? untill last week there was noone to defend against appart from a few disorganised pirates ??????? most of us dont have a problem if any of the sa want to come to curse for whatever reason so what makes youi think we need to defend curse from anyone ? the curse coalition was origionally set up to keep curse open for anyone that wants to come here , knowing they wouldnt get attacked by griefing pirates . since you lot came here you have started a war that never needed fighting in the first place. so stop using as an excuse for blatant piracey !!!! .......................................... Do you take it up the HOOP ? |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.09.29 19:32:00 -
[259]
So you say they abided by all the rules you setup.. considering they have continued to kill ppl in Catch aswell as Syndicate, I would assume that pirating, and killing of noninvolved parties anywhere outside of curse, is one of the freedom the CA gives its members. So much for "not being pirates". Or are you just oblivious to whats REALLY going on? |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.09.29 19:32:00 -
[260]
So you say they abided by all the rules you setup.. considering they have continued to kill ppl in Catch aswell as Syndicate, I would assume that pirating, and killing of noninvolved parties anywhere outside of curse, is one of the freedom the CA gives its members. So much for "not being pirates". Or are you just oblivious to whats REALLY going on? |
Sarkos |
Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 -
[261] Commander TAT; As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend. To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides. Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
Sarkos Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 -
[262] Commander TAT; As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend. To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides. Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them. |
Araborne |
Posted - 2003.09.29 20:11:00 -
[263] "I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved." hey that sounds like a hoot, why don't we just get Jim Raynor to moderate, I am sure he would be fair too !!! You are a very funny man "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc |
Posted - 2003.09.29 20:11:00 -
[264] "I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved." hey that sounds like a hoot, why don't we just get Jim Raynor to moderate, I am sure he would be fair too !!! You are a very funny man "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:15:00 -
[265]
What you are proposing about talking is admirable, but it was already tried and failed. Even when the CC and the CA had a pact of non agression, it was only because we had assurances of what you state above. Despite the fact that the week before the NA Pact CC members had responded to numerous calls for assistance involving agressive acts by the Red Corsairs, we foolishly believed your above statement to be the truth. As the days went by, it was proven that the RCs were not in any way trying to turn away from thier past actions. When Sinister showed up and started 'making friends', that when the CC drew the line. All of this nonsense about the CC hiring Sinister is just a smokescreen. It fails the common sense test. At no point has any CC member embraced piracy. It is, in fact, one of the primary articles of the Coalition Treaty that we root out and destroy pirates in Curse whenever possible. Why would we, the people who have taken a stance against the pirates and griefers, hire them? And think about that for a minute: to hire them would mean that money or goods or some sort changed hands. At no point has Nexus or any other CC corp EVER paid off a pirate corp. Just think about the twisted logic that has to be applied for you to believe what Xirtam and his Sinister masters are saying. I'm not going to rant or rave about lies and deciet as others have done, but I am tired of the misinformed thinking that they have something to fear from the Coalition. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:15:00 -
[266]
What you are proposing about talking is admirable, but it was already tried and failed. Even when the CC and the CA had a pact of non agression, it was only because we had assurances of what you state above. Despite the fact that the week before the NA Pact CC members had responded to numerous calls for assistance involving agressive acts by the Red Corsairs, we foolishly believed your above statement to be the truth. As the days went by, it was proven that the RCs were not in any way trying to turn away from thier past actions. When Sinister showed up and started 'making friends', that when the CC drew the line. All of this nonsense about the CC hiring Sinister is just a smokescreen. It fails the common sense test. At no point has any CC member embraced piracy. It is, in fact, one of the primary articles of the Coalition Treaty that we root out and destroy pirates in Curse whenever possible. Why would we, the people who have taken a stance against the pirates and griefers, hire them? And think about that for a minute: to hire them would mean that money or goods or some sort changed hands. At no point has Nexus or any other CC corp EVER paid off a pirate corp. Just think about the twisted logic that has to be applied for you to believe what Xirtam and his Sinister masters are saying. I'm not going to rant or rave about lies and deciet as others have done, but I am tired of the misinformed thinking that they have something to fear from the Coalition. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:21:00 -
[267]
The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:21:00 -
[268]
The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about. |
Nasty Ways |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:42:00 -
[269]
You should be embarassed that an outsider has more understanding of the situation than you. Go go Reclaimer! --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
Nasty Ways Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.29 21:42:00 -
[270]
You should be embarassed that an outsider has more understanding of the situation than you. Go go Reclaimer! --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ? |
LL Church |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:35:00 -
[271] I was traveling thru curse in my noob ship, Just going through to do a small pickup. I had no guns but appearently Cyrus thought I may be able to take him anyway. I lost my noob ship and he blasted my pod. I was given no warning it was going to happen at all. Thank god Sinister is legitimate, other wise he may have made me bend over and squeeel like a piggee. Do not goto Curse, I found out first hand Sinister is lying about not bieng pirates. Here are screenshots. My Death Pvt L.L. Church Blue Army |
 LL Church Gallente |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:35:00 -
[272] I was traveling thru curse in my noob ship, Just going through to do a small pickup. I had no guns but appearently Cyrus thought I may be able to take him anyway. I lost my noob ship and he blasted my pod. I was given no warning it was going to happen at all. Thank god Sinister is legitimate, other wise he may have made me bend over and squeeel like a piggee. Do not goto Curse, I found out first hand Sinister is lying about not bieng pirates. Here are screenshots. My Death Pvt L.L. Church Blue Army |
Supe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:37:00 -
[273] Wow first and formost Sinister started off in Curse and has been in curse on and off for far longer then most corps. Second us defending ourselves from stain and there bug abuse. |
 Supe |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:37:00 -
[274] Wow first and formost Sinister started off in Curse and has been in curse on and off for far longer then most corps. Second us defending ourselves from stain and there bug abuse. |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:56:00 -
[275] For those corporations in curse that are affiliated with the Curse Coalition, you have seen our sheer destructive power. You do not obey our laws, and for this, we will see to it that you drown in blood. You want to go against the all-mighty Curse Alliance, then you must be willing to die for the cause, or leave. We gave you our warnings, there's no turning back. No one can protect you now. |
PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:56:00 -
[276] For those corporations in curse that are affiliated with the Curse Coalition, you have seen our sheer destructive power. You do not obey our laws, and for this, we will see to it that you drown in blood. You want to go against the all-mighty Curse Alliance, then you must be willing to die for the cause, or leave. We gave you our warnings, there's no turning back. No one can protect you now. |
Carmine Tylus |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:58:00 -
[277] Let me tell you something that anyone involved in fleet operations could tell you. If you are flying around in your noob ship and you belong to an npc corporation, you are a spy. Weather you are a spy or not, it sure looks like you are a spy. Don't be distraught when you are blown up, please, and don't equate it to pirating. Would you let spies fly around your home? no. Me neither. |
 Carmine Tylus Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.09.29 23:58:00 -
[278] Let me tell you something that anyone involved in fleet operations could tell you. If you are flying around in your noob ship and you belong to an npc corporation, you are a spy. Weather you are a spy or not, it sure looks like you are a spy. Don't be distraught when you are blown up, please, and don't equate it to pirating. Would you let spies fly around your home? no. Me neither. |
The Monk |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:11:00 -
[279] Edited by: The Monk on 30/09/2003 00:16:45 Its bull**** though n00bs in 0.0 space they are obviously spies. Why is this?? Simple How are you going to make money in 0.0 with a n00b ship?? Simple answer you cant... You cant mine because NPCs are gonna get your little frig. You cant NPC hunt. So why would a n00b goto 0.0 space... because they are spying, they cant exactly do much else. Of course there is another reason why these n00b chars are in 0.0 space. Simple answer is they are most probably someones alt and they are purpusly trying to get them killed by a "certain" alliance to use as ammo on the forums. For example lets say SA made a alt n00b char they send it into Curse to spy to see whats going on and see ship positions etc. 1st they get great information 2nd if that n00b gets killed they then can say oh he wasnt spying he was going around doing what ever a n00b does in 0.0 space (very little) and they try to make the other alliance look bad because they sh00t n00bs. Its totaly lame taking advantage of the game like this. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
 The Monk Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:11:00 -
[280] Edited by: The Monk on 30/09/2003 00:16:45 Its bull**** though n00bs in 0.0 space they are obviously spies. Why is this?? Simple How are you going to make money in 0.0 with a n00b ship?? Simple answer you cant... You cant mine because NPCs are gonna get your little frig. You cant NPC hunt. So why would a n00b goto 0.0 space... because they are spying, they cant exactly do much else. Of course there is another reason why these n00b chars are in 0.0 space. Simple answer is they are most probably someones alt and they are purpusly trying to get them killed by a "certain" alliance to use as ammo on the forums. For example lets say SA made a alt n00b char they send it into Curse to spy to see whats going on and see ship positions etc. 1st they get great information 2nd if that n00b gets killed they then can say oh he wasnt spying he was going around doing what ever a n00b does in 0.0 space (very little) and they try to make the other alliance look bad because they sh00t n00bs. Its totaly lame taking advantage of the game like this. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
LL Church |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:21:00 -
[281] I guess no one read I was running for a pickup. I am not a spy and I could care less about your little war. But I do know why you are labeled as pirates, I was 30km from the gate and from Cyrus, he waited untill I was 20km away. I was traveling at 245k/h. Why couldn't this big tough man tell me to turn away, that he is blockading the gate. Is he so dense it will take several minutes to type the words? Get real yo! your pirates, admit it. Pvt L.L. Church Blue Army |
LL Church Gallente |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:21:00 -
[282] I guess no one read I was running for a pickup. I am not a spy and I could care less about your little war. But I do know why you are labeled as pirates, I was 30km from the gate and from Cyrus, he waited untill I was 20km away. I was traveling at 245k/h. Why couldn't this big tough man tell me to turn away, that he is blockading the gate. Is he so dense it will take several minutes to type the words? Get real yo! your pirates, admit it. Pvt L.L. Church Blue Army |
The Monk |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:24:00 -
[283] No he obviously thought u were a spy. I cant blame him really. Any n00b player with 0.0 player sec and in an NPC and a n00b ship looks suspicious. U could have least reasoned with him in local 1st. You find most spies dont do that. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
The Monk Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:24:00 -
[284] No he obviously thought u were a spy. I cant blame him really. Any n00b player with 0.0 player sec and in an NPC and a n00b ship looks suspicious. U could have least reasoned with him in local 1st. You find most spies dont do that. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Carmine Tylus |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:28:00 -
[285] Because he thought you were a spy, don't you pay attention?? Why would he tell a spy to stop his ship when he could just blow it up? You wrote that you were there for a pickup, huh? Well I guess that's irrifutable proof then! Truly sorry m8! Oh, wait, my mistake, it's crap. Look, you are in an npc corp, you are in 0.0 space, you haven't even loaded your picture on the forum, YOU WERE A SPY. An alt char seeking information, probably for stain. How is it pirating to blow you up? it's not. |
Carmine Tylus Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.09.30 00:28:00 -
[286] Because he thought you were a spy, don't you pay attention?? Why would he tell a spy to stop his ship when he could just blow it up? You wrote that you were there for a pickup, huh? Well I guess that's irrifutable proof then! Truly sorry m8! Oh, wait, my mistake, it's crap. Look, you are in an npc corp, you are in 0.0 space, you haven't even loaded your picture on the forum, YOU WERE A SPY. An alt char seeking information, probably for stain. How is it pirating to blow you up? it's not. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.30 01:20:00 -
[287] Meh, they've been doing this to everyone who comes through, not just guys in frigates. That's why the CC has broken off of them, we've observed them destroy complete innocents because they (a) are spies or (b) are from stain. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 01:20:00 -
[288] Meh, they've been doing this to everyone who comes through, not just guys in frigates. That's why the CC has broken off of them, we've observed them destroy complete innocents because they (a) are spies or (b) are from stain. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Miner Detail |
Posted - 2003.09.30 02:41:00 -
[289] I must admit I'm a noob and the Curse Alliance has been nothing but good to me. The curse coalition has been nice too, but MASS has fired on me a couple of times in Curse region. Now they say they don't want to take over Curse, but I bet they are planning too. Oh btw, they fired on me when I was in HLW which is far from the Stain border. From what I've seen first hand, I believe the Curse Alliance and not the Curse Coalition. Sorry guys, but the CC is just playing around with their own words and the Stain Alliance guys are talking in circles. Like I said this from someone not affilated with either side and I wanted to give my two cents. One more thing I'm going to be leaving Curse as I don't want the CC or MASS to kill me. I trust the CA more than anyone else down here. |
 Miner Detail |
Posted - 2003.09.30 02:41:00 -
[290] I must admit I'm a noob and the Curse Alliance has been nothing but good to me. The curse coalition has been nice too, but MASS has fired on me a couple of times in Curse region. Now they say they don't want to take over Curse, but I bet they are planning too. Oh btw, they fired on me when I was in HLW which is far from the Stain border. From what I've seen first hand, I believe the Curse Alliance and not the Curse Coalition. Sorry guys, but the CC is just playing around with their own words and the Stain Alliance guys are talking in circles. Like I said this from someone not affilated with either side and I wanted to give my two cents. One more thing I'm going to be leaving Curse as I don't want the CC or MASS to kill me. I trust the CA more than anyone else down here. |
Uzael |
Posted - 2003.09.30 03:02:00 -
[291] Wow, Miner Detail (good name)... And you say L.L Church is an Alt? That right there shows you guys don't practice what you preach. I would go on but all of Sinister's misdirection and name calling has turned this post into trash, just like everything else they get involved with. -------------- UZAEL |
Uzael Amarr Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.09.30 03:02:00 -
[292] Wow, Miner Detail (good name)... And you say L.L Church is an Alt? That right there shows you guys don't practice what you preach. I would go on but all of Sinister's misdirection and name calling has turned this post into trash, just like everything else they get involved with. -------------- UZAEL |
Carmine Tylus |
Posted - 2003.09.30 06:29:00 -
[293]
You should not use cliches so much, it makes people dislike you. I'm disliking you right now in fact... I never said that guy was an alt. I said that he looks like an alt spy so that is why he got killed. He should not be surprised or dismayed by it, nor should you. You would do the same, I'm sure, in a similar situation. You'd be foolish not to. |
Carmine Tylus Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.09.30 06:29:00 -
[294]
You should not use cliches so much, it makes people dislike you. I'm disliking you right now in fact... I never said that guy was an alt. I said that he looks like an alt spy so that is why he got killed. He should not be surprised or dismayed by it, nor should you. You would do the same, I'm sure, in a similar situation. You'd be foolish not to. |
Xeris |
Posted - 2003.09.30 06:52:00 -
[295]
No spy or stain member is innocent in curse. Too lazy to get my sig changed |
 Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.30 06:52:00 -
[296]
No spy or stain member is innocent in curse. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:01:00 -
[297]
I didnt hear any objections at the time. Besides, if you are that pooor maybe we can get you on some food stamps. I think there is some government cheese in your CEO's hanger. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:01:00 -
[298]
I didnt hear any objections at the time. Besides, if you are that pooor maybe we can get you on some food stamps. I think there is some government cheese in your CEO's hanger. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:03:00 -
[299]
You are a traitor. You according my friend planned this before our meeting. That proves you are a rat. A worthless rat. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:03:00 -
[300]
You are a traitor. You according my friend planned this before our meeting. That proves you are a rat. A worthless rat. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:35:00 -
[301]
No, what i meant by that was that they just used a whole buncha excuses like, they are spies or from stain......without any info to back it up....we watched them try and destroy a caravan of Bestowers...etc..these actions will no longer be tolerated. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:35:00 -
[302]
No, what i meant by that was that they just used a whole buncha excuses like, they are spies or from stain......without any info to back it up....we watched them try and destroy a caravan of Bestowers...etc..these actions will no longer be tolerated. --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:58:00 -
[303]
Does that mean your friends in Stain can no longer do that? Or the gate campers in Evilution that admit to killing all noobs in PF-346 and FD-MLJ because they are spies? You need to be consistant. How many "innocnets" do you think Stain killed in HED-GP? I am sure it is none. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.30 07:58:00 -
[304]
Does that mean your friends in Stain can no longer do that? Or the gate campers in Evilution that admit to killing all noobs in PF-346 and FD-MLJ because they are spies? You need to be consistant. How many "innocnets" do you think Stain killed in HED-GP? I am sure it is none. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:03:00 -
[305] Ok, well I'm done speaking here, I think most of you get my point other then the fools of the CA, anyways ya, I'm done cuz you are just twisting my words around which I dont appreciate so, I'm done, I hope you do the same Reclamer, your the biggest loudmouth on the forums for the CA, dont you have better stuff to do?...STFU --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:03:00 -
[306] Ok, well I'm done speaking here, I think most of you get my point other then the fools of the CA, anyways ya, I'm done cuz you are just twisting my words around which I dont appreciate so, I'm done, I hope you do the same Reclamer, your the biggest loudmouth on the forums for the CA, dont you have better stuff to do?...STFU --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:33:00 -
[307] Thing is that what reclaimer says is true. They have openly say they will kill everyone unknown to them entering this area. There is no way to know what they are doing there or anything but it has officially been announced that there is a war here and people have been advised to stay out. We do not shoot people that actually contact us before coming here and giving good reasons for being here. Neither do we shoot people listed as allies or NAP. During my time in this game noone has disappointed me more then you guys in this so called Curse Coalition. You might come here stating you don't want to deal with pirates etc etc but the true reason is that you don't dare to stand up against SA and FA so you decided to turn your backs on people who have sworn to protect this area for you. Seeing what kind of honor you have it is obvious to me that it's not a big loss for us that you left. I want people I can trust. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:33:00 -
[308] Thing is that what reclaimer says is true. They have openly say they will kill everyone unknown to them entering this area. There is no way to know what they are doing there or anything but it has officially been announced that there is a war here and people have been advised to stay out. We do not shoot people that actually contact us before coming here and giving good reasons for being here. Neither do we shoot people listed as allies or NAP. During my time in this game noone has disappointed me more then you guys in this so called Curse Coalition. You might come here stating you don't want to deal with pirates etc etc but the true reason is that you don't dare to stand up against SA and FA so you decided to turn your backs on people who have sworn to protect this area for you. Seeing what kind of honor you have it is obvious to me that it's not a big loss for us that you left. I want people I can trust. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Xeris |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:35:00 -
[309] Well, it is rather ironic that when Stain blows up a non-hostile Bestower full of blue prints in Catch and brags about it on the forums, there is little complaint. Yet when Sinister and its allies try to legitimize itself, it is fallen on deaf ears and we are attacked. Too lazy to get my sig changed |
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.09.30 08:35:00 -
[310] Well, it is rather ironic that when Stain blows up a non-hostile Bestower full of blue prints in Catch and brags about it on the forums, there is little complaint. Yet when Sinister and its allies try to legitimize itself, it is fallen on deaf ears and we are attacked. |
Roy Haggerty |
Posted - 2003.09.30 10:29:00 -
[311] Edited by: Roy Haggerty on 30/09/2003 10:30:56
Without in any way wanting to pop that balloon of self-deception, Noctoz, I'm afraid you're wrong. A week or so back, our corp (EMHI, Joviah's mob) was running a mining op deep in Curse. We had a relative newbie friend coming in his hauler to help us. Knowing Sinister were blokading a system on route we warned them he was coming. He jumped in and warped to a planet while we made sure everything was absolutely clear, because - put bluntly - we don't trust pirates. The Sinister mob searched him out and blew him up anyway. This wasn't a rush judgement at a jumpgate. It was just a motiveless desire to blow up a ship. Any ship. Reading these forums, the innocent might get the idea that somehow all the corps involved are filled with disciplined people acting according to a strategy decided by their leaders. Frankly, in the case of the pirate corps, that's cobblers. Most seem to have a smattering of organisers at the top who can string some words together in a sentence and give the impression of control. But their rank and file seem to consist mostly of bloodthirsty types who just want to kill anything they can. I personally tend towards a view of "a curse on both your houses". Curse was a peacable region before these two warring armies decided to make it their playground. Now it's like being in Germany during the 30 years war : both sides claim they're fighting for you, but your home ends up in ashes no matter which army passes through. So we locals have decided to defend ourselves. We've only got pitchforks to match the enemy's cannon, but there's a lot of us, and we live here. Now all I have to do is work out the difference between ECM and ECCM, and I'll fly my pitchfork towards the nearest enemy. <paints his face blue> You can take away my ship, but you can't take away my freedom ! |
 Roy Haggerty |
Posted - 2003.09.30 10:29:00 -
[312] Edited by: Roy Haggerty on 30/09/2003 10:30:56
Without in any way wanting to pop that balloon of self-deception, Noctoz, I'm afraid you're wrong. A week or so back, our corp (EMHI, Joviah's mob) was running a mining op deep in Curse. We had a relative newbie friend coming in his hauler to help us. Knowing Sinister were blokading a system on route we warned them he was coming. He jumped in and warped to a planet while we made sure everything was absolutely clear, because - put bluntly - we don't trust pirates. The Sinister mob searched him out and blew him up anyway. This wasn't a rush judgement at a jumpgate. It was just a motiveless desire to blow up a ship. Any ship. Reading these forums, the innocent might get the idea that somehow all the corps involved are filled with disciplined people acting according to a strategy decided by their leaders. Frankly, in the case of the pirate corps, that's cobblers. Most seem to have a smattering of organisers at the top who can string some words together in a sentence and give the impression of control. But their rank and file seem to consist mostly of bloodthirsty types who just want to kill anything they can. I personally tend towards a view of "a curse on both your houses". Curse was a peacable region before these two warring armies decided to make it their playground. Now it's like being in Germany during the 30 years war : both sides claim they're fighting for you, but your home ends up in ashes no matter which army passes through. So we locals have decided to defend ourselves. We've only got pitchforks to match the enemy's cannon, but there's a lot of us, and we live here. Now all I have to do is work out the difference between ECM and ECCM, and I'll fly my pitchfork towards the nearest enemy. <paints his face blue> You can take away my ship, but you can't take away my freedom ! |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.09.30 11:11:00 -
[313]
Give me a name of this pilot as well as the location it happened and who shot him down and I will give you a full explanation of what happened. If you told us that he was off limits he shoudl not have been fired upon and if he was and you had contacted any representative of ours he whould have got a replacement ship. We have been pirates but we made the decition to come here and be the military arm of the curse alliance instead. We have no interest in shooting down people in general here. There are more then enough people from SA and FA to shoot at. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.09.30 11:11:00 -
[314]
Give me a name of this pilot as well as the location it happened and who shot him down and I will give you a full explanation of what happened. If you told us that he was off limits he shoudl not have been fired upon and if he was and you had contacted any representative of ours he whould have got a replacement ship. We have been pirates but we made the decition to come here and be the military arm of the curse alliance instead. We have no interest in shooting down people in general here. There are more then enough people from SA and FA to shoot at. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.30 11:33:00 -
[315]
Nice try. But if your pilot had been on the channel and said he was coming through the non-event would have happened. Is this the reason you betrayed us? For one indy? I think not. Joviah is a liar and a coward. He pretends to be ppl friends and doesnt help when you really need it. Think FOA Joviah. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.30 11:33:00 -
[316]
Nice try. But if your pilot had been on the channel and said he was coming through the non-event would have happened. Is this the reason you betrayed us? For one indy? I think not. Joviah is a liar and a coward. He pretends to be ppl friends and doesnt help when you really need it. Think FOA Joviah. |
Roy Haggerty |
Posted - 2003.09.30 12:27:00 -
[317] You misunderstand me. I was not claiming the decision of the corp is about one indy. That part of my response was merely intended to demonstrate to Noctoz that life isn't as black and white as he thought. Ultimately, we've been forced into a position where we cannot simply remain neutral. Our ships are being destroyed, and our livelihoods threatened. In such situations, one makes a choice. Our choice is effectively the lesser evil as we see it. People are sometimes willing to risk the loss of everything if they believe the cause is noble or just. But I'm afraid that there aren't many people in Curse who are willing to make those sacrifices simply in order to prop up the coalition of pirates and anarchists who comprise the core of the CA. If the price of our peace is to temporarily find ourselves allied with SA in order to rid ourselves of the greater evil, then so be it. If, after this war, SA prove you right and announce their hegemony over Curse, then we will turn our pitchforks onto their arses too. But for the time being, they're the Red Army rushing to meet us at the Elbe. We may not speak the same language, but we share an objective. Leave Curse now. |
Roy Haggerty |
Posted - 2003.09.30 12:27:00 -
[318] You misunderstand me. I was not claiming the decision of the corp is about one indy. That part of my response was merely intended to demonstrate to Noctoz that life isn't as black and white as he thought. Ultimately, we've been forced into a position where we cannot simply remain neutral. Our ships are being destroyed, and our livelihoods threatened. In such situations, one makes a choice. Our choice is effectively the lesser evil as we see it. People are sometimes willing to risk the loss of everything if they believe the cause is noble or just. But I'm afraid that there aren't many people in Curse who are willing to make those sacrifices simply in order to prop up the coalition of pirates and anarchists who comprise the core of the CA. If the price of our peace is to temporarily find ourselves allied with SA in order to rid ourselves of the greater evil, then so be it. If, after this war, SA prove you right and announce their hegemony over Curse, then we will turn our pitchforks onto their arses too. But for the time being, they're the Red Army rushing to meet us at the Elbe. We may not speak the same language, but we share an objective. Leave Curse now. |
Joviah |
Posted - 2003.09.30 15:33:00 -
[319] Edited by: Joviah on 30/09/2003 15:34:51 Heh, Reclaimer, do you really want to bring back ancient wars in Empire territory? A war that my corp at that time won? Interesting you should mention that -- because we entered into that war to protect a fairly young corporation we had offered our protection to. A corporation by the name of... hmm what was it again? OH YEAH! FATAL SHADOWS! That's right, I died protecting you guys. As a matter of fact, Federation of Assassins would have torn you guys to shreds if it weren't for our assistance. Why did we assist you? Because pirates moved into our territory, just like they have done now. Had you been observant enough to recognize my name, as I recognized yours, you would have realized this outcome was inevitable from the start. I mean come on, let's be honest here. Sinister and m0o are 2 of the most notorious pirate gangs in the galaxy! Oh well, the tables have turned, we are now enemies. Your friend knew about my plans long before they occured, simply because I offered him the chance to come with us. I warned him that you guys would be in danger soon, and I warned him again last night as well. Even after being called a traitor, a coward, etc etc. Blah blah -- everyone else here is being called the same things. It really doesn't phase me, and personally I don't care. The only people I answer to are my corporate employees, like Roy Haggerty. I'm not one to get into a flame war, and I won't be posting again. HOWEVER, I'm glad you brought that up Reclaimer -- thanks for reminding me and allowing me the opportunity to clear that one up for ya. Joviah Director, Cirrius Technologies |
Joviah Caldari |
Posted - 2003.09.30 15:33:00 -
[320] Edited by: Joviah on 30/09/2003 15:34:51 Heh, Reclaimer, do you really want to bring back ancient wars in Empire territory? A war that my corp at that time won? Interesting you should mention that -- because we entered into that war to protect a fairly young corporation we had offered our protection to. A corporation by the name of... hmm what was it again? OH YEAH! FATAL SHADOWS! That's right, I died protecting you guys. As a matter of fact, Federation of Assassins would have torn you guys to shreds if it weren't for our assistance. Why did we assist you? Because pirates moved into our territory, just like they have done now. Had you been observant enough to recognize my name, as I recognized yours, you would have realized this outcome was inevitable from the start. I mean come on, let's be honest here. Sinister and m0o are 2 of the most notorious pirate gangs in the galaxy! Oh well, the tables have turned, we are now enemies. Your friend knew about my plans long before they occured, simply because I offered him the chance to come with us. I warned him that you guys would be in danger soon, and I warned him again last night as well. Even after being called a traitor, a coward, etc etc. Blah blah -- everyone else here is being called the same things. It really doesn't phase me, and personally I don't care. The only people I answer to are my corporate employees, like Roy Haggerty. I'm not one to get into a flame war, and I won't be posting again. HOWEVER, I'm glad you brought that up Reclaimer -- thanks for reminding me and allowing me the opportunity to clear that one up for ya. |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:11:00 -
[321] Only one thing I'd like to know, how the corps of the CC can join CA in the first place, when they hate pirates. After some time doing nothing for the CA they decide to leave the CA. Well noone is holding them back but why are they telling all kind of BS when they leave?? (Maybe avoid a lot of bad pr) I really dont understand how a corp hating pirates as much as they say would even consider joining an alliance with former pirate corps. IMHO it sounds like some corps was looking at the situation in curse and said to them selves," hey we ****** up and started a war with an alliance we cant take on our selves. Lets join them and if they beat stain we can stay in curse". Then later on "uhh, SA and FA are coming, this is looking baaad, lets leave and then if SA and FA win we can stay in curse" Now I know this is only thoughts of mine, but I can tell you this, CC have never given any support to the alliance while they where in it, and before the alliance they where ready to start a war... I dont like them and now I've been Betrayed I just want them to die  |
 Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:11:00 -
[322] Only one thing I'd like to know, how the corps of the CC can join CA in the first place, when they hate pirates. After some time doing nothing for the CA they decide to leave the CA. Well noone is holding them back but why are they telling all kind of BS when they leave?? (Maybe avoid a lot of bad pr) I really dont understand how a corp hating pirates as much as they say would even consider joining an alliance with former pirate corps. IMHO it sounds like some corps was looking at the situation in curse and said to them selves," hey we ****** up and started a war with an alliance we cant take on our selves. Lets join them and if they beat stain we can stay in curse". Then later on "uhh, SA and FA are coming, this is looking baaad, lets leave and then if SA and FA win we can stay in curse" Now I know this is only thoughts of mine, but I can tell you this, CC have never given any support to the alliance while they where in it, and before the alliance they where ready to start a war... I dont like them and now I've been Betrayed I just want them to die |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:53:00 -
[323]
Hey please use another word than "red army" I don't wanna be seen like that heheheh :) Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:53:00 -
[324]
Hey please use another word than "red army" I don't wanna be seen like that heheheh :) Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:55:00 -
[325] Edited by: Yuen on 30/09/2003 18:56:07
Hmm... ARE or ARE NOT Pirates? still not clear... who claim are pirates, who screams thay are no more... be clear ! Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.09.30 18:55:00 -
[326] Edited by: Yuen on 30/09/2003 18:56:07
Hmm... ARE or ARE NOT Pirates? still not clear... who claim are pirates, who screams thay are no more... be clear ! Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.09.30 19:25:00 -
[327] Edited by: Ramuis on 30/09/2003 19:27:33 sry Yuen, I later stated that some of the corps in CA are former pirate corps. I have had no problems with sinister after they moved to curse (allot before). I know allot of people are claiming they are still pirating but as far as I know noone have been killed without compensation after they decided to be clean. Red corsairs and RUS have been mentioned and I have never in my time playing eve had any problems with these two corps. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 19:25:00 -
[328] Edited by: Ramuis on 30/09/2003 19:27:33 sry Yuen, I later stated that some of the corps in CA are former pirate corps. I have had no problems with sinister after they moved to curse (allot before). I know allot of people are claiming they are still pirating but as far as I know noone have been killed without compensation after they decided to be clean. Red corsairs and RUS have been mentioned and I have never in my time playing eve had any problems with these two corps. |
Whoopsie |
Posted - 2003.09.30 20:00:00 -
[329]
Odd. I find the vehemence of Tyrell employees amusing, considering popular rumor has it you paid Sinister 10 million isk per week to leave you alone in Curse. My sources aren't clear on whether that was minerals, straight isk, or a mixture of the two, but that's hardly the point is it? So you're all quite happy funding pirates, but once SA comes knocking on the door, you suddenly commit a complete about face? Interesting indeed. |
 Whoopsie Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.09.30 20:00:00 -
[330]
Odd. I find the vehemence of Tyrell employees amusing, considering popular rumor has it you paid Sinister 10 million isk per week to leave you alone in Curse. My sources aren't clear on whether that was minerals, straight isk, or a mixture of the two, but that's hardly the point is it? So you're all quite happy funding pirates, but once SA comes knocking on the door, you suddenly commit a complete about face? Interesting indeed. |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:12:00 -
[331]
Reread the news release. It clearly states the CC joined the CA with the assumption they would cease their pirate activities. CA members did not cease their illegal activities so CC left the CA. One of the CC's core values is that of opening the door to anyone regardless of their past, even pirates, as long as they are willing to give up their evil ways. CA members not only continue to conduct pirate operations but they have stepped up such operations under the guise of a war with the Stain Alliance and is taking the opportunity to attack anyone and everyone anywhere near Curse outside Empire Space. They are also shifting people around and into front corporations to conduct piracy and covert operations in other regions. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:12:00 -
[332]
Reread the news release. It clearly states the CC joined the CA with the assumption they would cease their pirate activities. CA members did not cease their illegal activities so CC left the CA. One of the CC's core values is that of opening the door to anyone regardless of their past, even pirates, as long as they are willing to give up their evil ways. CA members not only continue to conduct pirate operations but they have stepped up such operations under the guise of a war with the Stain Alliance and is taking the opportunity to attack anyone and everyone anywhere near Curse outside Empire Space. They are also shifting people around and into front corporations to conduct piracy and covert operations in other regions. |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:30:00 -
[333]
The dev just gave me a jove BS and a miner II BP!!! I can say alot of things without anything to back it up. That doesn't mean it's true. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:30:00 -
[334]
The dev just gave me a jove BS and a miner II BP!!! I can say alot of things without anything to back it up. That doesn't mean it's true. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:59:00 -
[335]
Actually we moved from Caldari space to save ourselves because you refused to come to our assistance. But, that is not the point now. The point is that you betrayed us all for selfish reasons. BTY, you werent invited to the meeting because Fubie didnt even tell them you were the CEO. Blame that on him. We asked at the outset of the meeting if everyone was represented. Fubie declared he could speak on the behalf of the corps he knew. I guess he was right. After all, this was planned way before the meeting. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.09.30 21:59:00 -
[336]
Actually we moved from Caldari space to save ourselves because you refused to come to our assistance. But, that is not the point now. The point is that you betrayed us all for selfish reasons. BTY, you werent invited to the meeting because Fubie didnt even tell them you were the CEO. Blame that on him. We asked at the outset of the meeting if everyone was represented. Fubie declared he could speak on the behalf of the corps he knew. I guess he was right. After all, this was planned way before the meeting. |
Redan Chulipa |
Posted - 2003.09.30 22:13:00 -
[337] Still no listing of who Curse Alliance are and who constitutes the Curse Coalition. What doesn't make sense is if Sinister indeed withdrew from Syndicate space then why is the FA wasting resources attacking them when they and SA are doing a good job of keeping eachother down? Is the FAs war effort all over with up in Venal? |
Redan Chulipa Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.09.30 22:13:00 -
[338] Still no listing of who Curse Alliance are and who constitutes the Curse Coalition. What doesn't make sense is if Sinister indeed withdrew from Syndicate space then why is the FA wasting resources attacking them when they and SA are doing a good job of keeping eachother down? Is the FAs war effort all over with up in Venal? |
Silent Shadow |
Posted - 2003.10.01 05:14:00 -
[339]
I really dont understand you. Please tell me who we are pirating. PLEASE!!!! Stain is camping HED-GP and killing all that enter (unless in SA) that is Pirating. But, yet we are slandered like this. It reminds me in a sick way of **** Germany. They made up lies about Jews and ran with them. Sir, we are not pirating, unless killing ppl that attack us is pirating. In taht case sir, you need to adjust your logic. |
 Silent Shadow |
Posted - 2003.10.01 05:14:00 -
[340]
I really dont understand you. Please tell me who we are pirating. PLEASE!!!! Stain is camping HED-GP and killing all that enter (unless in SA) that is Pirating. But, yet we are slandered like this. It reminds me in a sick way of **** Germany. They made up lies about Jews and ran with them. Sir, we are not pirating, unless killing ppl that attack us is pirating. In taht case sir, you need to adjust your logic. |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.10.01 11:49:00 -
[341]
Thank you for your polite answer before all... but don't you think that if YOU have had no problems with them it could be different for MANY people in Eve? Plus, I heard reports of pirating activities in Catch region (why there while there's a war in Curse?) and even inside Curse, as reported by some members of the CC. I don't understand why they should lie, since they clearly admitted their small firepower and since they know that they will be crushed without the support of the Stain Alliance. And we from Stain Alliance don't need those reports to know that we DON'T WANT Pirates corps (formerly or not) at our borders. You want a Curse Alliance friend of the Stain Alliance? it can be probably... only thrown away the pirates before. Then talkings could be take place. Hope I was clear... and thanks for your attention Sirs! Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.10.01 11:49:00 -
[342]
Thank you for your polite answer before all... but don't you think that if YOU have had no problems with them it could be different for MANY people in Eve? Plus, I heard reports of pirating activities in Catch region (why there while there's a war in Curse?) and even inside Curse, as reported by some members of the CC. I don't understand why they should lie, since they clearly admitted their small firepower and since they know that they will be crushed without the support of the Stain Alliance. And we from Stain Alliance don't need those reports to know that we DON'T WANT Pirates corps (formerly or not) at our borders. You want a Curse Alliance friend of the Stain Alliance? it can be probably... only thrown away the pirates before. Then talkings could be take place. Hope I was clear... and thanks for your attention Sirs! Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.01 15:34:00 -
[343] Edited by: Ramuis on 01/10/2003 15:51:34 Edited by: Ramuis on 01/10/2003 15:35:56 I to have heard allot of reports about pirating around eve, specifically some reports state that sinister (or other CA members) have been pirating. I can only tell you what I hear on the alliance channel and my experience in eve (not only curse) and since I canÆt be everywhere I would really like these people who have victim to sinisters pirate activities after they moved to curse. As stated before accidents have occurred in curse where some people have been wrongfully killed but these people should have been repaid for their losers. I've been in curse since first time my corp needed rare minerals and I have had problems with sinister and other pirate corps but never have I had a problem with red corsairs. I know others have before but if someone wants to change his way then give these people a chance. It have been quite some time since I've heard people claiming red corsairs pirating (allot of people continue to refer to old reports). I believe red corsairs have changed their way and if stain is going to tell me who I can have in my alliance and who I canÆt then they have gone to far imho. They have stain and they can control that due to their military power, then stay there. I sincerely hope sinister will be able to show the rest of eve that they have changed just like red corsairs. I see no evidence pointing in any other direction, that is why I am still a nomad. If my corp should ever turn into pirates I would take my ship and find another corp! And to finish this post of I just would like to ask CC to come fourth with evidence of the CAÆs pirate activities since this is why they left. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.01 15:34:00 -
[344] Edited by: Ramuis on 01/10/2003 15:51:34 Edited by: Ramuis on 01/10/2003 15:35:56 I to have heard allot of reports about pirating around eve, specifically some reports state that sinister (or other CA members) have been pirating. I can only tell you what I hear on the alliance channel and my experience in eve (not only curse) and since I canÆt be everywhere I would really like these people who have victim to sinisters pirate activities after they moved to curse. As stated before accidents have occurred in curse where some people have been wrongfully killed but these people should have been repaid for their losers. I've been in curse since first time my corp needed rare minerals and I have had problems with sinister and other pirate corps but never have I had a problem with red corsairs. I know others have before but if someone wants to change his way then give these people a chance. It have been quite some time since I've heard people claiming red corsairs pirating (allot of people continue to refer to old reports). I believe red corsairs have changed their way and if stain is going to tell me who I can have in my alliance and who I canÆt then they have gone to far imho. They have stain and they can control that due to their military power, then stay there. I sincerely hope sinister will be able to show the rest of eve that they have changed just like red corsairs. I see no evidence pointing in any other direction, that is why I am still a nomad. If my corp should ever turn into pirates I would take my ship and find another corp! And to finish this post of I just would like to ask CC to come fourth with evidence of the CAÆs pirate activities since this is why they left. |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.10.01 20:46:00 -
[345] Ramuis, I understand your opinion that Sinister/Mo0 may have given up their "pirateing ways". But due to the greivious crimes of their past they can not just walk away with "oops, sorry, my bad." They have still to pay for the crimes they have commited. A Murderer in our society when caught does not just say...oops, I used to kill people....but I don't anymore. And expect the authorities to set him on his way. Sinister/Moo are wanted felons with a long history of killing innocents that will not just go away due to a relocation and eve taking thier word that they are a "good" corp now. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.01 20:46:00 -
[346] Ramuis, I understand your opinion that Sinister/Mo0 may have given up their "pirateing ways". But due to the greivious crimes of their past they can not just walk away with "oops, sorry, my bad." They have still to pay for the crimes they have commited. A Murderer in our society when caught does not just say...oops, I used to kill people....but I don't anymore. And expect the authorities to set him on his way. Sinister/Moo are wanted felons with a long history of killing innocents that will not just go away due to a relocation and eve taking thier word that they are a "good" corp now. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.01 20:52:00 -
[347]
All very well. But how DO YOU EXPLAIN MASS'S PIRATES?!?! I am refering to Zen0, 1manarmy and the others like psycopath. How is ok for your guys to reform, but not ours? Such a double standard. I want an answer to this. I bet that I wont get anything but more tapdancing around that FACT. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.01 20:52:00 -
[348]
All very well. But how DO YOU EXPLAIN MASS'S PIRATES?!?! I am refering to Zen0, 1manarmy and the others like psycopath. How is ok for your guys to reform, but not ours? Such a double standard. I want an answer to this. I bet that I wont get anything but more tapdancing around that FACT. |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.01 21:19:00 -
[349]
I have thought about this but I cant find any solution to the problem. Raging a constant war on them doesn't seem as a solution though, how many times do you have to kill someone before you would consider yourselves as greifers?? On the other hand I understand that people who have been victims to these corps pirate activities want some kind of revenge but what and how could this be done. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.01 21:19:00 -
[350]
I have thought about this but I cant find any solution to the problem. Raging a constant war on them doesn't seem as a solution though, how many times do you have to kill someone before you would consider yourselves as greifers?? On the other hand I understand that people who have been victims to these corps pirate activities want some kind of revenge but what and how could this be done. |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.10.02 02:01:00 -
[351] All very well. But how DO YOU EXPLAIN MASS'S PIRATES?!?! I am refering to Zen0, 1manarmy and the others like psycopath. How is ok for your guys to reform, but not ours? Such a double standard. I want an answer to this. I bet that I wont get anything but more tapdancing around that FACT. As I am not a member of MASS I can not answer this for them.....But in my personal opinion had the Nomads accepted 2-3 "reformed pirates" into thier fold we would not be where we are today. The issue I believe is that the entire corperation and history have moved into and been welcomed into curse. I have no personal animosity to the nomads except in my veiw you are harbouring and aiding murderers and known cutthroats. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.02 02:01:00 -
[352] All very well. But how DO YOU EXPLAIN MASS'S PIRATES?!?! I am refering to Zen0, 1manarmy and the others like psycopath. How is ok for your guys to reform, but not ours? Such a double standard. I want an answer to this. I bet that I wont get anything but more tapdancing around that FACT. As I am not a member of MASS I can not answer this for them.....But in my personal opinion had the Nomads accepted 2-3 "reformed pirates" into thier fold we would not be where we are today. The issue I believe is that the entire corperation and history have moved into and been welcomed into curse. I have no personal animosity to the nomads except in my veiw you are harbouring and aiding murderers and known cutthroats. --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.02 06:41:00 -
[353]
Does this mean once a pirate always a pirate and no way one can change his ways? Please think about evolution, I have never been at a evol pirate gatecamp but allot of people have. Evol has changed so why can't other pirate corps change. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 06:41:00 -
[354]
Does this mean once a pirate always a pirate and no way one can change his ways? Please think about evolution, I have never been at a evol pirate gatecamp but allot of people have. Evol has changed so why can't other pirate corps change. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.02 06:49:00 -
[355] Evol has changed? Ok, who got banned? |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.02 06:49:00 -
[356] Evol has changed? Ok, who got banned? |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.10.02 08:48:00 -
[357]
I think it was the Fallen angels that got banned.. curse alliance members if I remember correctly... |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.02 08:48:00 -
[358]
I think it was the Fallen angels that got banned.. curse alliance members if I remember correctly... |
Yuen |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:09:00 -
[359] Ramuis I guess that one thing is that 2-3 member (that were pirates) joined a big corp like MASS is, and another one is a Pirate Corp like Sinister and the others were. Now they claim they are pirates no more (or not? it's a mess this, one time are pirates, one time are not). I believe that you can't just "trust" this kind of people on they word alone. If I should demonstrate something I cannot just say "hey I changed from NOW", I think I'd have to make facts proof my change. Actually, seems that you based your assumptions on the words of a well known pirate Corp. If it's enough for you and you are so well-oriented with this kind of people, maybe not everyone is so kind as you are, and thus this someone would like to see proofs. Of course noone can tell you who you can take in your Alliance and who you cannot, but you should know that making a certain thing or allow a certain kind of corp, will take some consequence. The worst one is a war, and that's what you had for accepting them. P.S: Sorry my grammar sucks in this post,but I just woke up Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Yuen Caldari Jokers |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:09:00 -
[360] Ramuis I guess that one thing is that 2-3 member (that were pirates) joined a big corp like MASS is, and another one is a Pirate Corp like Sinister and the others were. Now they claim they are pirates no more (or not? it's a mess this, one time are pirates, one time are not). I believe that you can't just "trust" this kind of people on they word alone. If I should demonstrate something I cannot just say "hey I changed from NOW", I think I'd have to make facts proof my change. Actually, seems that you based your assumptions on the words of a well known pirate Corp. If it's enough for you and you are so well-oriented with this kind of people, maybe not everyone is so kind as you are, and thus this someone would like to see proofs. Of course noone can tell you who you can take in your Alliance and who you cannot, but you should know that making a certain thing or allow a certain kind of corp, will take some consequence. The worst one is a war, and that's what you had for accepting them. P.S: Sorry my grammar sucks in this post,but I just woke up Jokers Jokers : Outnumbered ! |
Noctoz |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:44:00 -
[361] I talked to TRIGGER in MASS some time ago and asked what their policy on taking in new members where and if they whould accept a former pirate into their corp. The answer was yes and he even said that most MASS members are former pirates or mercenaries because those are the people that usually have most PvP experience. I'm ok with fighting SA and FA. I like PvP and they give plenty of opportunities for it. But don't come here and try to justify it because we were pirates. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Noctoz Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.02 09:44:00 -
[362] I talked to TRIGGER in MASS some time ago and asked what their policy on taking in new members where and if they whould accept a former pirate into their corp. The answer was yes and he even said that most MASS members are former pirates or mercenaries because those are the people that usually have most PvP experience. I'm ok with fighting SA and FA. I like PvP and they give plenty of opportunities for it. But don't come here and try to justify it because we were pirates. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |
Zoraz Murdock |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:01:00 -
[363]
All will be known in good time. The low lifes at the Curse Alliance are some 21 corps. Should be fairly easy to crush. When all this is done everyone will be free to see the museum of corpses that will be on display in Curse soon. There is nothing wrong with enjoying ones work. *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
 Zoraz Murdock Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:01:00 -
[364]
All will be known in good time. The low lifes at the Curse Alliance are some 21 corps. Should be fairly easy to crush. When all this is done everyone will be free to see the museum of corpses that will be on display in Curse soon. There is nothing wrong with enjoying ones work. *** Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *** -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:31:00 -
[365]
LOL |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.02 10:31:00 -
[366]
LOL |
Zoraz Murdock |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:20:00 -
[367]
What a great argument. You must be a professor or something. -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
Zoraz Murdock Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:20:00 -
[368]
What a great argument. You must be a professor or something. -------------------------- Zoraz Murdock - Information Officer The Collective - Human Recources Division [email protected] |
Dakkon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:39:00 -
[369]
When have we been a pirate? Tell me this. |
 Dakkon Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:39:00 -
[370]
When have we been a pirate? Tell me this. |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:47:00 -
[371] Edited by: dalman on 02/10/2003 11:54:48 I can't believe this. The Reclaimer, do you find it very hard to understand simple things??? You're asking a question, and we answer it. Then you continue to ask the same question in other threads. The "3 pirates in MASS" you talk about has been answered in 2 threads by me, and in 1 by Rust. Ok. Lets do it again and hope you get it this time. Psychopath was not accepted by MASS 1man army was a MASS member. He then left MASS and tried the pirate life. He got bored and deleted his character. A friend persuaded him to come back. So he created a new character and was accepted. So: 1. He's not a pirate. 2. He's character is kind of a "n00b character". If you guys say "I don't wanna be a pirate anymore" and delete your chars so you have to start from scratch with no skillpoints, no ISK and no items, I'd believe you.  Then there is Xen0. A well known pirate that we accepted. And yes, it's been stated that MASS may accept former pirates, that truly want to change themself. But it takes a big effort from the player, and Xen0 has been working very hard. Noctoz, what you said about most of MASS being former pirates... You must have got that wrong... But most are from corps involved in PvP. Myself and some more members are from a corp that did the same thing as Stain does... We "claimed" a 0.0 dead end system in empire space as our own. Then CCP removed all rare ore from empire space(which I supported), and our 0.0 system became a 0.5 system. So we had to go outside empire space to get rare minerals. And we had our first contact with the newly formed Stain Alliance. Some weeks later, all the active players in our corp merged into MASS. And yes, we attacked players in my former corp. Reason for that? Our main income was from selling Mallers. So when another corp started manufacturing Mallers 2 jumps from us we attacked them. Pretty good reason. Too bad so few corps want to do things like that. The problem you in Sinc are facing... It's still the same members in the same corp and you did no announcement prior to moving to Curse. You can't just move and when you're attacked say you're not pirates anymore. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 11:47:00 -
[372] Edited by: dalman on 02/10/2003 11:54:48 I can't believe this. The Reclaimer, do you find it very hard to understand simple things??? You're asking a question, and we answer it. Then you continue to ask the same question in other threads. The "3 pirates in MASS" you talk about has been answered in 2 threads by me, and in 1 by Rust. Ok. Lets do it again and hope you get it this time. Psychopath was not accepted by MASS 1man army was a MASS member. He then left MASS and tried the pirate life. He got bored and deleted his character. A friend persuaded him to come back. So he created a new character and was accepted. So: 1. He's not a pirate. 2. He's character is kind of a "n00b character". If you guys say "I don't wanna be a pirate anymore" and delete your chars so you have to start from scratch with no skillpoints, no ISK and no items, I'd believe you. Then there is Xen0. A well known pirate that we accepted. And yes, it's been stated that MASS may accept former pirates, that truly want to change themself. But it takes a big effort from the player, and Xen0 has been working very hard. Noctoz, what you said about most of MASS being former pirates... You must have got that wrong... But most are from corps involved in PvP. Myself and some more members are from a corp that did the same thing as Stain does... We "claimed" a 0.0 dead end system in empire space as our own. Then CCP removed all rare ore from empire space(which I supported), and our 0.0 system became a 0.5 system. So we had to go outside empire space to get rare minerals. And we had our first contact with the newly formed Stain Alliance. Some weeks later, all the active players in our corp merged into MASS. And yes, we attacked players in my former corp. Reason for that? Our main income was from selling Mallers. So when another corp started manufacturing Mallers 2 jumps from us we attacked them. Pretty good reason. Too bad so few corps want to do things like that. The problem you in Sinc are facing... It's still the same members in the same corp and you did no announcement prior to moving to Curse. You can't just move and when you're attacked say you're not pirates anymore. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 12:38:00 -
[373] Edited by: Alynthir on 02/10/2003 12:43:10 One of the most interesting aspects of this game is how dynamic and ever-changing it is. When the Coalition started a couple months ago, it began like most alliances: a mutual protection pact. We never imagined that it would grow to the size it has, or become locked into a war for control over the region. Personally, I am having a blast. All of this back and forth on these forums is barely 10% of what is going on inside the game itself. All of this has made the game FUN for me again, and that's really what it's all about. A lot of what has been posted here in this thread tries to paint what is going on in Curse as some sort of black and white issue. Well, as many on both sides can tell you, there is an awful lot of grey in there. Were it not for a few conflicting personalities and a series of bad incidents (which have all been covered ad infinitum in this thread), this war might have an entirely different face. Instead, I find myself in a situation where the Stain Alliance are my allies and I am fighting against people whom, up until a few weeks ago, I had more or less peaceful contact with. YOU JUST GOTTA LOVE THIS GAME!!! I've had some interesting conversations as well over the past few weeks. As I said in a previous post, there are some members of the CA that I'd rather not shoot at. There are a few people I've run into that I'd probably pod in real life given the chance, but it amazes me some of the convos I get from people who are my enemies that I get along fine with... until we enter the same sector. I often think of the situation in Curse as sort of a spaced-based version of the American Civil War. Fubie, my CEO, is constantly barraged with convos and EVE-mails now. Many are from corps weÆve never heard of, supporting the Coalition. Others ask for simple clarification on what we stand for. And, of course, there are the hate mails. Heh-heh! It's really opened my eyes to the fact that, despite popular belief, the players of Sinister and such are not all 16 year old geeks with mommy's credit card. Some of the people in the CA are fairly nice people. Some are not. But, the fact remains that Sinister and some of the rest started out as something no better than a real life group of terrorists. As another stated in this thread, you canÆt just wake up one day and say, ôIÆm not evil anymore! Those 2,000 pod kills were just a mistake!ö The corps of the CC simply DID NOT TRUST Sinister and her people and felt we had ample justification for not joining in the ædefense of CurseÆ. And then there is STAIN. Heh-heh. Unlike a lot of people, I have never had a problem with the Stain Alliance. I respect their borders and have done my best not to cross them in the past. Their arrival on the scene in Curse was not much of a surprise to me. When Nexus Enterprises first moved out to Curse, it was already a haven for thugs and pirate noobs in cruisers and battleships. I always thought it only a matter of time before our big southern neighbors decided to clamp down on the area. Many see the CC's stance as a just one and could care less how the pirates are eradicated, Stain or no Stain; other's think that the CA is standing against the 'Stain Invasion'. Regardless, it has definitely caught the attention of the galaxy and I'm enjoying being a small part of something so big. This is one of those wars that will probably drag out for a loooooong time. Both sides in this war think they are doing what is 'right', and despite what some have said here, the CC and the CA both have some very smart and capable pilots. I have no idea how this might end (truce, death & destruction, a server crash?!), but at least it's more fun than pointing eight mining lasers at a ******* bistot 'roid!! See you all in game! _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 12:38:00 -
[374] Edited by: Alynthir on 02/10/2003 12:43:10 One of the most interesting aspects of this game is how dynamic and ever-changing it is. When the Coalition started a couple months ago, it began like most alliances: a mutual protection pact. We never imagined that it would grow to the size it has, or become locked into a war for control over the region. Personally, I am having a blast. All of this back and forth on these forums is barely 10% of what is going on inside the game itself. All of this has made the game FUN for me again, and that's really what it's all about. A lot of what has been posted here in this thread tries to paint what is going on in Curse as some sort of black and white issue. Well, as many on both sides can tell you, there is an awful lot of grey in there. Were it not for a few conflicting personalities and a series of bad incidents (which have all been covered ad infinitum in this thread), this war might have an entirely different face. Instead, I find myself in a situation where the Stain Alliance are my allies and I am fighting against people whom, up until a few weeks ago, I had more or less peaceful contact with. YOU JUST GOTTA LOVE THIS GAME!!! I've had some interesting conversations as well over the past few weeks. As I said in a previous post, there are some members of the CA that I'd rather not shoot at. There are a few people I've run into that I'd probably pod in real life given the chance, but it amazes me some of the convos I get from people who are my enemies that I get along fine with... until we enter the same sector. I often think of the situation in Curse as sort of a spaced-based version of the American Civil War. Fubie, my CEO, is constantly barraged with convos and EVE-mails now. Many are from corps weÆve never heard of, supporting the Coalition. Others ask for simple clarification on what we stand for. And, of course, there are the hate mails. Heh-heh! It's really opened my eyes to the fact that, despite popular belief, the players of Sinister and such are not all 16 year old geeks with mommy's credit card. Some of the people in the CA are fairly nice people. Some are not. But, the fact remains that Sinister and some of the rest started out as something no better than a real life group of terrorists. As another stated in this thread, you canÆt just wake up one day and say, ôIÆm not evil anymore! Those 2,000 pod kills were just a mistake!ö The corps of the CC simply DID NOT TRUST Sinister and her people and felt we had ample justification for not joining in the ædefense of CurseÆ. And then there is STAIN. Heh-heh. Unlike a lot of people, I have never had a problem with the Stain Alliance. I respect their borders and have done my best not to cross them in the past. Their arrival on the scene in Curse was not much of a surprise to me. When Nexus Enterprises first moved out to Curse, it was already a haven for thugs and pirate noobs in cruisers and battleships. I always thought it only a matter of time before our big southern neighbors decided to clamp down on the area. Many see the CC's stance as a just one and could care less how the pirates are eradicated, Stain or no Stain; other's think that the CA is standing against the 'Stain Invasion'. Regardless, it has definitely caught the attention of the galaxy and I'm enjoying being a small part of something so big. This is one of those wars that will probably drag out for a loooooong time. Both sides in this war think they are doing what is 'right', and despite what some have said here, the CC and the CA both have some very smart and capable pilots. I have no idea how this might end (truce, death & destruction, a server crash?!), but at least it's more fun than pointing eight mining lasers at a ******* bistot 'roid!! See you all in game! _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Thalen Mort |
Posted - 2003.10.02 15:38:00 -
[375] Well said Alynthir........ --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Thalen Mort Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.02 15:38:00 -
[376] Well said Alynthir........ --------------------------------------------- Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you. |
Desiato |
Posted - 2003.10.02 16:28:00 -
[377] I agree, this has made the game fun again. I have never really taken part in much PvP but I think I will get the opportunity now. I intend to enjoy it far more than those people that just sit around hurling insults at each other. Its a game, have fun with it! |
 Desiato Cirrius Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 16:28:00 -
[378] I agree, this has made the game fun again. I have never really taken part in much PvP but I think I will get the opportunity now. I intend to enjoy it far more than those people that just sit around hurling insults at each other. Its a game, have fun with it! |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.02 17:07:00 -
[379] Edited by: Ramuis on 02/10/2003 17:07:36
No I understand, I wasn't to fond of sinister joining the alliance in the first place but my ceo said to give them a chance and we did... Now pirating is as far as i understand people killing other people just to get their goods or trying to get protection money from them. I know this is a very grey area but lets just try to think at it this way. I havenÆt heard of a sinister pirating since they joined CA and at least 14 days has passed. I know this isn't that long but still they are trying to do something different. I cant give you any other demonstration. Dakko, I've only heard evol where pirating a long time ago, before FA was created. If I'm wrong then sry to have dragged evol's name into this.
Uhhh, how I just love being called a lowlife from corps who wouldn't even stand up for their beliefs while they where part of an alliance! Why didn't you protest to the presence of former pirate corps in curse when you joined in the first place?? Only thing that comes to my mind is that it is people who follow the stream. When you joined CA it looked fairly well for us, when it started to look bad you turned on us. So next time you call someone people lowlifes please think about your own actions 
dalman, this would be a solution but would you do it for any reason at all. You have used about 3-4 months and got something around 3mill skillpoints. It will all be lost and you can start up in your noob frigat. It'll take at least a month before you could start earning some fair isk. Without knowing I dont think 1man army had that many skill points when he made a new char. Alynthir, yup this sure have started eve up again, it was starting to get where you simply looked forward to this and that bug getting fixed Btw, nice to see there actually are some nice people in nexus corp Ohhh, these board really take a lot of ones time, better get in and play eve |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 17:07:00 -
[380] Edited by: Ramuis on 02/10/2003 17:07:36
No I understand, I wasn't to fond of sinister joining the alliance in the first place but my ceo said to give them a chance and we did... Now pirating is as far as i understand people killing other people just to get their goods or trying to get protection money from them. I know this is a very grey area but lets just try to think at it this way. I havenÆt heard of a sinister pirating since they joined CA and at least 14 days has passed. I know this isn't that long but still they are trying to do something different. I cant give you any other demonstration. Dakko, I've only heard evol where pirating a long time ago, before FA was created. If I'm wrong then sry to have dragged evol's name into this.
Uhhh, how I just love being called a lowlife from corps who wouldn't even stand up for their beliefs while they where part of an alliance! Why didn't you protest to the presence of former pirate corps in curse when you joined in the first place?? Only thing that comes to my mind is that it is people who follow the stream. When you joined CA it looked fairly well for us, when it started to look bad you turned on us. So next time you call someone people lowlifes please think about your own actions
dalman, this would be a solution but would you do it for any reason at all. You have used about 3-4 months and got something around 3mill skillpoints. It will all be lost and you can start up in your noob frigat. It'll take at least a month before you could start earning some fair isk. Without knowing I dont think 1man army had that many skill points when he made a new char. Alynthir, yup this sure have started eve up again, it was starting to get where you simply looked forward to this and that bug getting fixed Btw, nice to see there actually are some nice people in nexus corp Ohhh, these board really take a lot of ones time, better get in and play eve |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 18:14:00 -
[381]
HEY!!! We're ALL NICE! Seriously, at the end of the day, it IS just a game. But, *steps back into character*, I just wanted to take a moment to clear something up. There seems to be this thought among many people in the CA that I've spoken with that the members of the CC actually MERGED with the CA with the intention of being partners or what have you with Sinister. This is not what I know to be true. I could go into a chronology, but what would be the point? Reclmaier will just come along and give us all a good laugh again! Basically, once we realized that Sinister was going to be setting up shop in Curse, the member corps of the Coalition knew that we would not be able to honor any sort of alliance with the CA. Even if Nexus wanted to, we had several other corps to answer to. So, the decision was made that we would declare our break from the CA and Sinister. Bottom line: the CC was "allied" with the CA for all of four or five days while the CC member corps tried to decide exactly what we wanted to do about the situation. Once a consensus was reached, Fubie made this post. That is what happened from my POV in a nutshell. Sure, there is a lot stuff that happened in between, but this is the meat of it. Any attempt to complicate or assign further motives to the CC's actions is pure speculation. Okay, enough commentary. I think this thread has served it's purpose and I'm done here. If anyone wishes to ask me about the CC or whatever, feel free to convo me in game. If I'm not under fire or launching torps at someone, I should have time to talk. Later, all. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 18:14:00 -
[382]
HEY!!! We're ALL NICE! Seriously, at the end of the day, it IS just a game. But, *steps back into character*, I just wanted to take a moment to clear something up. There seems to be this thought among many people in the CA that I've spoken with that the members of the CC actually MERGED with the CA with the intention of being partners or what have you with Sinister. This is not what I know to be true. I could go into a chronology, but what would be the point? Reclmaier will just come along and give us all a good laugh again! Basically, once we realized that Sinister was going to be setting up shop in Curse, the member corps of the Coalition knew that we would not be able to honor any sort of alliance with the CA. Even if Nexus wanted to, we had several other corps to answer to. So, the decision was made that we would declare our break from the CA and Sinister. Bottom line: the CC was "allied" with the CA for all of four or five days while the CC member corps tried to decide exactly what we wanted to do about the situation. Once a consensus was reached, Fubie made this post. That is what happened from my POV in a nutshell. Sure, there is a lot stuff that happened in between, but this is the meat of it. Any attempt to complicate or assign further motives to the CC's actions is pure speculation. Okay, enough commentary. I think this thread has served it's purpose and I'm done here. If anyone wishes to ask me about the CC or whatever, feel free to convo me in game. If I'm not under fire or launching torps at someone, I should have time to talk. Later, all. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:17:00 -
[383]
No, I'd never delete my char. Or think about starting a new one. And I don't expect anyone to do that. It was a responce to the guy who needs to get his questions answered at least 4 times before he understands( = The Reclaimer), since he continue to talk about the "dangerous pirate 1man army" who's in our corp. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:17:00 -
[384]
No, I'd never delete my char. Or think about starting a new one. And I don't expect anyone to do that. It was a responce to the guy who needs to get his questions answered at least 4 times before he understands( = The Reclaimer), since he continue to talk about the "dangerous pirate 1man army" who's in our corp. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[385] Here we can see a brief cronology of the history of curse in recent times. Curse alliance formed, curse coalition corps do feck all but ***** abit. Curse comes under attack from stain and evolution hurrah! Curse coaltion break away, world takes 2 weeks to notice the difference. Curse alliance gets bored and but rapes curse coaltion. The end OMG ITS NEARLY THE LAST NIGHT OF FLAMING! Stav -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.10.02 19:18:00 -
[386] Here we can see a brief cronology of the history of curse in recent times. Curse alliance formed, curse coalition corps do feck all but ***** abit. Curse comes under attack from stain and evolution hurrah! Curse coaltion break away, world takes 2 weeks to notice the difference. Curse alliance gets bored and but rapes curse coaltion. The end OMG ITS NEARLY THE LAST NIGHT OF FLAMING! Stav -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:40:00 -
[387]
3 things you leave out that I think is of great importance. 1. Before CC joined or merged with CA nexus and birds of prey where at war with CA. When Sinister came to curse and stopped attacking the CA members CC merged and thereby nexus and birds of prey avoided a war. 2. You joined the CA in under 1 day fully knowing there where former pirate corps in the CA. Then it takes 4-5 days to find out the rest of your alliance dont want to be in an alliance with former pirate corps. Maybe you should have talked with your alliance before joining... 3. When you leave the CA you throw around alot of big words like, all of the CA are pirating and killing your corp m8's but no evidence of this. IMHO, backstabing... I'm a bit sad you dont want to talk about your decision, but well thats the easy thing to do. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.02 20:40:00 -
[388]
3 things you leave out that I think is of great importance. 1. Before CC joined or merged with CA nexus and birds of prey where at war with CA. When Sinister came to curse and stopped attacking the CA members CC merged and thereby nexus and birds of prey avoided a war. 2. You joined the CA in under 1 day fully knowing there where former pirate corps in the CA. Then it takes 4-5 days to find out the rest of your alliance dont want to be in an alliance with former pirate corps. Maybe you should have talked with your alliance before joining... 3. When you leave the CA you throw around alot of big words like, all of the CA are pirating and killing your corp m8's but no evidence of this. IMHO, backstabing... I'm a bit sad you dont want to talk about your decision, but well thats the easy thing to do. |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:14:00 -
[389] Wasn't planning on it, but..
Dude... I seriously DO NOT know what you are talking about. Nexus and Bird of Prey were never at war with anyone. In fact, as the Coalition was first forming, it was brought to our attention that there was another Alliance in Curse as well. Cyndal (the other Nexus Director) and myself introduced ourselves and stated our intentions, etc... Prior to this meeting, no one in Nexus was even aware there was another Alliance in Curse and we'd been there for nearly two months.  We'd seen some of the corps, but there had never been any real exchange of information.What resulted from that first meeting, and meetings over the next couple days, was the Eventide Treaty, so named for the channel we spoke in. Effectively, both alliances agreed to pretty much mind thier own buisness and that the Red Corsairs would leave CC corps alone and we would stop hunting them. The initial meetings were a bit tense at times, but at no point during these initial negotiations did WAR or any other hostilities ever break out. It was not until just a few days ago that I fired a shot in anger, or was shot at, by a CA member. At the time, Nexus and Birds of Prey constitued about 19% of the Coalition's total numbers. Today that figure is in the single digits. My point is that you say we joined to avoid a war? Why would we do that? Because we were afraid? Afraid of what exactly? I think my biggest issue with this point is that you are saying it like it's fact. I was there when the initial talks with the original CA took place with STK and RC, etc... and I was shooting at NO ONE other than Red Corsairs and a few other assorted lowlifes (Space Pills, S*****rdly) at the time. I know you weren't in the Eventide Channel. Until these posts, I've never heard of / seen you. So where are you getting this bogus information from? Forget all the rest because if you believe point one to be true, there is no reason to respond to points two and three. If your first point is what the CA is telling it's corp members happened, then it's no wonder that there's so much confusion. Is the above simply your interpretation of events or is this what Xirtam and the others have been feeding thier people? I'm VERY curious about this because, Ramius, you seem like a pretty smart guy. Your arguments are presented without a lot of rhetoric and I can respect that, hence my return to this thread. But I'm telling you that your most basic information is flawed.  _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:14:00 -
[390] Wasn't planning on it, but..
Dude... I seriously DO NOT know what you are talking about. Nexus and Bird of Prey were never at war with anyone. In fact, as the Coalition was first forming, it was brought to our attention that there was another Alliance in Curse as well. Cyndal (the other Nexus Director) and myself introduced ourselves and stated our intentions, etc... Prior to this meeting, no one in Nexus was even aware there was another Alliance in Curse and we'd been there for nearly two months. We'd seen some of the corps, but there had never been any real exchange of information.What resulted from that first meeting, and meetings over the next couple days, was the Eventide Treaty, so named for the channel we spoke in. Effectively, both alliances agreed to pretty much mind thier own buisness and that the Red Corsairs would leave CC corps alone and we would stop hunting them. The initial meetings were a bit tense at times, but at no point during these initial negotiations did WAR or any other hostilities ever break out. It was not until just a few days ago that I fired a shot in anger, or was shot at, by a CA member. At the time, Nexus and Birds of Prey constitued about 19% of the Coalition's total numbers. Today that figure is in the single digits. My point is that you say we joined to avoid a war? Why would we do that? Because we were afraid? Afraid of what exactly? I think my biggest issue with this point is that you are saying it like it's fact. I was there when the initial talks with the original CA took place with STK and RC, etc... and I was shooting at NO ONE other than Red Corsairs and a few other assorted lowlifes (Space Pills, S*****rdly) at the time. I know you weren't in the Eventide Channel. Until these posts, I've never heard of / seen you. So where are you getting this bogus information from? Forget all the rest because if you believe point one to be true, there is no reason to respond to points two and three. If your first point is what the CA is telling it's corp members happened, then it's no wonder that there's so much confusion. Is the above simply your interpretation of events or is this what Xirtam and the others have been feeding thier people? I'm VERY curious about this because, Ramius, you seem like a pretty smart guy. Your arguments are presented without a lot of rhetoric and I can respect that, hence my return to this thread. But I'm telling you that your most basic information is flawed. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Carca |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:57:00 -
[391] I haven't been deep into curse recently, most of my time in eve has been spent combatting pirates in Molden Heath and Heimatar or defending Egbinger and B-VIP from the stain invasion, as well as a bit of mining and farming as you do. Today I went deep into curse with two allies from two other corps,who are not in the Curse Alliance but fight alongside us against our enemies. What I saw in Curse were alot of organized CA members keeping the place safe.I was there for many hours and I saw no Stain invaders and only one CC who passed through the system i was in very rapidly. It was nice to see our alliance in such great numbers and so organized. Stain, if you want this war to end then stay home and stop invading our space. |
 Carca Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.02 21:57:00 -
[392] I haven't been deep into curse recently, most of my time in eve has been spent combatting pirates in Molden Heath and Heimatar or defending Egbinger and B-VIP from the stain invasion, as well as a bit of mining and farming as you do. Today I went deep into curse with two allies from two other corps,who are not in the Curse Alliance but fight alongside us against our enemies. What I saw in Curse were alot of organized CA members keeping the place safe.I was there for many hours and I saw no Stain invaders and only one CC who passed through the system i was in very rapidly. It was nice to see our alliance in such great numbers and so organized. Stain, if you want this war to end then stay home and stop invading our space. |
Hasek |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:32:00 -
[393] |
 Hasek Hive Minerals |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:32:00 -
[394] |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:34:00 -
[395] Edited by: dalman on 03/10/2003 01:36:47
Funny. Cause last time I was in Curse (2 days ago), I saw 4 RUS members run out from Curse and all of CA docked. *edit* And I heard something today about thousands of bistot belonging to CA which was blown up M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:34:00 -
[396] Edited by: dalman on 03/10/2003 01:36:47
Funny. Cause last time I was in Curse (2 days ago), I saw 4 RUS members run out from Curse and all of CA docked. *edit* And I heard something today about thousands of bistot belonging to CA which was blown up I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:40:00 -
[397] Funny. I heard that one CA shuttle killed 20 SA BS's singlehandedly. I heard that the emperor isn't really dead, but turned into the cookie monster and ran off somewhere into JK-FIX. HEH. dalman if that information comes from your intelligence officer (if stain is smart enough to have one), I suggest getting a new one :). |
PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:40:00 -
[398] Funny. I heard that one CA shuttle killed 20 SA BS's singlehandedly. I heard that the emperor isn't really dead, but turned into the cookie monster and ran off somewhere into JK-FIX. HEH. dalman if that information comes from your intelligence officer (if stain is smart enough to have one), I suggest getting a new one :). |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:46:00 -
[399] So you deny that some of CA's haulers were blown up, as well as many cargo cans that were floating in space? And that your battleships couldn't catch the one SA pilot? M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.03 01:46:00 -
[400] So you deny that some of CA's haulers were blown up, as well as many cargo cans that were floating in space? And that your battleships couldn't catch the one SA pilot? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.10.03 02:20:00 -
[401] MASS merged with Evolution? What? |
PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.10.03 02:20:00 -
[402] MASS merged with Evolution? What? |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.03 03:34:00 -
[403] dalman, it's pretty much not worth it. this is the part where psx's eyes lose sight of the ball. that's why he never moved up from t-ball. |
 Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.03 03:34:00 -
[404] dalman, it's pretty much not worth it. this is the part where psx's eyes lose sight of the ball. that's why he never moved up from t-ball. |
Uzael |
Posted - 2003.10.03 05:22:00 -
[405]
Amen to that. -------------- UZAEL |
Uzael Amarr Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.10.03 05:22:00 -
[406]
Amen to that. -------------- UZAEL |
Xeris |
Posted - 2003.10.03 06:43:00 -
[407]
Um, no. We lost one Iteron V that was full of Bistot, and an emtpy Bestower (that was blown up by a Solar Wind raven). Hardly the end of the world. Too lazy to get my sig changed |
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.03 06:43:00 -
[408]
Um, no. We lost one Iteron V that was full of Bistot, and an emtpy Bestower (that was blown up by a Solar Wind raven). Hardly the end of the world. |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.03 07:53:00 -
[409]
I've used just about half an hour searching the forum for the thread where people from VOTF, nexus and birds of prey began shouting at each other. This thread ended with a war declaration. Nexus and Birds of prey where on KOS list, then CC joined CA and the war stopped before it started. I'm really annoyed I canÆt find the threat because without that this is just my word, not worth allot
This strikes me as rather odd because CC members state all through this thread that pirates are scum and they hunt any corp they believe to be pirates but still you accept a nap with corps you claim to be pirate corps. If I understand this correctly the initial talks where before you merged (or joined) with CA and before sinister turned up in curse. When you decided to join CA, sinister where already in curse and part of the CA. Please correct me, this is what I understand of how things happened: 1. Initial meeting where NAP's where arranged between CA and CC (no sinister in curse) 2. War that I cant prove was declared 3. Sinister came to curse 4. Meeting where CC, CA and Sinister joined forces 5. CC leaves CA because a claim of pirating. I'm a no one, just a small member of nomads who god tired of being called pirate whithout any prof of this. The information I'm writing is what I get from people I regard highly as honest people, like Qobra, Sarkos and XirtamVOTF. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.03 07:53:00 -
[410]
I've used just about half an hour searching the forum for the thread where people from VOTF, nexus and birds of prey began shouting at each other. This thread ended with a war declaration. Nexus and Birds of prey where on KOS list, then CC joined CA and the war stopped before it started. I'm really annoyed I canÆt find the threat because without that this is just my word, not worth allot
This strikes me as rather odd because CC members state all through this thread that pirates are scum and they hunt any corp they believe to be pirates but still you accept a nap with corps you claim to be pirate corps. If I understand this correctly the initial talks where before you merged (or joined) with CA and before sinister turned up in curse. When you decided to join CA, sinister where already in curse and part of the CA. Please correct me, this is what I understand of how things happened: 1. Initial meeting where NAP's where arranged between CA and CC (no sinister in curse) 2. War that I cant prove was declared 3. Sinister came to curse 4. Meeting where CC, CA and Sinister joined forces 5. CC leaves CA because a claim of pirating. I'm a no one, just a small member of nomads who god tired of being called pirate whithout any prof of this. The information I'm writing is what I get from people I regard highly as honest people, like Qobra, Sarkos and XirtamVOTF. |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.03 10:02:00 -
[411] Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 10:06:19 Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 10:03:18
Your numbered summary is fairly accurate. After the Eventide treaty, the CC was under strict orders to not fire at Red Corsairs or Vengeance of the Fallen. However, this did NOT stop VOTF or RC from firing on Curse Coaltion ships. We suffered no substantial losses tho, with the exception of a pair of cruisers I believe. We tried to talk to the CA, but they kept denying that such activities were taking place. By the time Sinister arrived, the word of Xirtam and the other CA leaders was worth little to the CC leadership. I guess the CA simply assumed that the CC would follow their lead in welcoming Sinister. We did not. You mention that all through this thread CC members are talking smack about pirates. Well, yeah. Now that open war is declared, all of the furstration we felt while trying to ignore being shot at is coming out. No surprise there. Lastly, you list Qobra, Sarkos and XirtamVOTF as 'people I regard highly as honest people'... Qobra, I have had no dealings with, but even among neutral corps in the region no one I've spoken to has anything really negative to say about him. Sarkos seems to be rather level headed judging from his posts in this thread. I have no real beef with him outside of the fact that we are now enemies. Which brings me to Xirtam. This guy is INFAMOUS among the corps of the Coalition. He lied to us about his and the CA's intentions from the start. It is he, above all others, upon whom the blame for this war rests and now I'll tell you why. Remember that I said that RC and VTOF were violating the cease fire between the CC and the CA? That that was the main reason we felt we could not trust the CA when Sinister arrived in Curse? When Fubie tried to report on the pirate activities that were ongoing in spite of the non agression treaty, Xirtam literally laughed him out of the channel, called him a liar and denied everything. The following night was the final straw. This screenshot is part of a series that was taken on 14 Sep 03, well before the current war began. It was taken by Flum, one of Nexus' Scorpion pilots. Note the Region: Curse Note the people in the Threat Box: XirtamVOTF and also BobGhengisKhan of Red Corsairs. Note the damage text. Who is that shooting at my Scorpion pilot? You wanted proof? Now you have some. I also submit to you, the text of Flum's after action report on the CC Forums:
Xirtam is a LIAR, Ramuis. At least, he was never honest in his dealings with the Coalition. By the time Sinister had showed up, were we in the Coalition actually supposed to believe Xirtam's claims of them turning peaceful when the man himself was opening fire on Coalition ships??  The CC didn't backstab anyone. We simply left because we simply felt: 1.) The leadership of the CA could not be trusted to keep it's word. 2.) Sinister going lawful? Heh. I do not expect any of the above to stop the war or solve anything. I wish it would. But hopefully it will give at least some members of the CA something to think about. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.03 10:02:00 -
[412] Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 10:06:19 Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 10:03:18
Your numbered summary is fairly accurate. After the Eventide treaty, the CC was under strict orders to not fire at Red Corsairs or Vengeance of the Fallen. However, this did NOT stop VOTF or RC from firing on Curse Coaltion ships. We suffered no substantial losses tho, with the exception of a pair of cruisers I believe. We tried to talk to the CA, but they kept denying that such activities were taking place. By the time Sinister arrived, the word of Xirtam and the other CA leaders was worth little to the CC leadership. I guess the CA simply assumed that the CC would follow their lead in welcoming Sinister. We did not. You mention that all through this thread CC members are talking smack about pirates. Well, yeah. Now that open war is declared, all of the furstration we felt while trying to ignore being shot at is coming out. No surprise there. Lastly, you list Qobra, Sarkos and XirtamVOTF as 'people I regard highly as honest people'... Qobra, I have had no dealings with, but even among neutral corps in the region no one I've spoken to has anything really negative to say about him. Sarkos seems to be rather level headed judging from his posts in this thread. I have no real beef with him outside of the fact that we are now enemies. Which brings me to Xirtam. This guy is INFAMOUS among the corps of the Coalition. He lied to us about his and the CA's intentions from the start. It is he, above all others, upon whom the blame for this war rests and now I'll tell you why. Remember that I said that RC and VTOF were violating the cease fire between the CC and the CA? That that was the main reason we felt we could not trust the CA when Sinister arrived in Curse? When Fubie tried to report on the pirate activities that were ongoing in spite of the non agression treaty, Xirtam literally laughed him out of the channel, called him a liar and denied everything. The following night was the final straw. This screenshot is part of a series that was taken on 14 Sep 03, well before the current war began. It was taken by Flum, one of Nexus' Scorpion pilots. Note the Region: Curse Note the people in the Threat Box: XirtamVOTF and also BobGhengisKhan of Red Corsairs. Note the damage text. Who is that shooting at my Scorpion pilot? You wanted proof? Now you have some. I also submit to you, the text of Flum's after action report on the CC Forums:
Xirtam is a LIAR, Ramuis. At least, he was never honest in his dealings with the Coalition. By the time Sinister had showed up, were we in the Coalition actually supposed to believe Xirtam's claims of them turning peaceful when the man himself was opening fire on Coalition ships?? The CC didn't backstab anyone. We simply left because we simply felt: 1.) The leadership of the CA could not be trusted to keep it's word. 2.) Sinister going lawful? Heh. I do not expect any of the above to stop the war or solve anything. I wish it would. But hopefully it will give at least some members of the CA something to think about. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:02:00 -
[413]
If a corp had said this as the reason for leaving I wouldn't call them backstabbing but try reading fubie's post. He is making it sound like you have been under constant fire by CA and the pirate activity in curse have been rising since the forming of the CA. Based on the above incidents I fully understand you choice to leave CA. I dont know why VOTF and RC attacked you but I'll try to find out. Xirtam has always been a man of action rather than a man of talking. If he felt someone from a corp had done him wrong he would try to get revenge.. I'm not saying its no biggie what happens on screenshot but I would like to have both sides of the story.
All the time I've been in curse I have mined at killed NPC pirates with VOTF right next door. When nomads moved down here we trusted no one, but after some months with occasionaly convo's in local and mining in the same belts we started to trust VOTF. In my dealings with anyone from VOTF I have had no problems at all. But as I stated XirtamVOTF is a man of action. I'll get back to you once I understand what happened above. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:02:00 -
[414]
If a corp had said this as the reason for leaving I wouldn't call them backstabbing but try reading fubie's post. He is making it sound like you have been under constant fire by CA and the pirate activity in curse have been rising since the forming of the CA. Based on the above incidents I fully understand you choice to leave CA. I dont know why VOTF and RC attacked you but I'll try to find out. Xirtam has always been a man of action rather than a man of talking. If he felt someone from a corp had done him wrong he would try to get revenge.. I'm not saying its no biggie what happens on screenshot but I would like to have both sides of the story.
All the time I've been in curse I have mined at killed NPC pirates with VOTF right next door. When nomads moved down here we trusted no one, but after some months with occasionaly convo's in local and mining in the same belts we started to trust VOTF. In my dealings with anyone from VOTF I have had no problems at all. But as I stated XirtamVOTF is a man of action. I'll get back to you once I understand what happened above. |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:05:00 -
[415] Jeez, where have you been? Do we need to spell it out for you? It's rather simple: Curse Coalition succeeds from the Curse Alliance. Curse Coalition declares war on Curse Alliance. VOTF/Red Corsairs are part of the Curse Alliance. Nexus is part of the Curse Coalition. Need a few more hints? Get with the program, get with reality, and fight for what you beleive in and stop crying. BTW tell Fubie (CEO of Nexus) that the death of his Scorpion was a good 5 seconds of fun :). |
PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:05:00 -
[416] Jeez, where have you been? Do we need to spell it out for you? It's rather simple: Curse Coalition succeeds from the Curse Alliance. Curse Coalition declares war on Curse Alliance. VOTF/Red Corsairs are part of the Curse Alliance. Nexus is part of the Curse Coalition. Need a few more hints? Get with the program, get with reality, and fight for what you beleive in and stop crying. BTW tell Fubie (CEO of Nexus) that the death of his Scorpion was a good 5 seconds of fun :). |
Sforza |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:29:00 -
[417]
Having (2 nights ago) been podded by Bach of your corp, in his scorpion while I was in a Badger, about 20 jumps from Curse and heading AWAY (towards Wicked Creek), I would beg to differ. Do your pilots just shoot everyone they don't know or even care to talk to? If so, get off the moral high ground or change your rules of engagement. Sforza CEO Vronsky Brothers and Sons Council Member Ushra'Khan |
 Sforza Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.03 11:29:00 -
[418]
Having (2 nights ago) been podded by Bach of your corp, in his scorpion while I was in a Badger, about 20 jumps from Curse and heading AWAY (towards Wicked Creek), I would beg to differ. Do your pilots just shoot everyone they don't know or even care to talk to? If so, get off the moral high ground or change your rules of engagement. Regards Sforza |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:06:00 -
[419] hmm. Bach's corp, Birds of prey are part of the CC so they I guys they will compensate.... |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:06:00 -
[420] hmm. Bach's corp, Birds of prey are part of the CC so they I guys they will compensate.... |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:12:00 -
[421]
I didn't say it was the end of the world. But you need to add all the bistot floating around in cargo cans. And the fact that several CA ships spent their time trying to hunt him down. Hmm, strange that one person simply denies everything and another confirms it M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:12:00 -
[422]
I didn't say it was the end of the world. But you need to add all the bistot floating around in cargo cans. And the fact that several CA ships spent their time trying to hunt him down. Hmm, strange that one person simply denies everything and another confirms it I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:20:00 -
[423] Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 12:21:42
As far as I am concerned, the CC NEVER, EVER merged with the CA. As for the events I describe above, and the screenshot, they happend over a week before anyone knew Sinister was going to come to Curse. As for fighting, I assume that you have never had your ship destroyed by Coalition ships, nor have you ever been hunted by a Coalition strike force, right? Since... we don't really come out and fight and all that. Bah. It's not me who needs to come back to reality. As for Fubie's Scorpion, that's actually been rather amusing to a lot of us, but I'll let someone else explain why if he wants to! I guess now he'll have to 'settle for' a Raven. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.03 12:20:00 -
[424] Edited by: Alynthir on 03/10/2003 12:21:42
As far as I am concerned, the CC NEVER, EVER merged with the CA. As for the events I describe above, and the screenshot, they happend over a week before anyone knew Sinister was going to come to Curse. As for fighting, I assume that you have never had your ship destroyed by Coalition ships, nor have you ever been hunted by a Coalition strike force, right? Since... we don't really come out and fight and all that. Bah. It's not me who needs to come back to reality. As for Fubie's Scorpion, that's actually been rather amusing to a lot of us, but I'll let someone else explain why if he wants to! I guess now he'll have to 'settle for' a Raven. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.10.03 15:05:00 -
[425] Edited by: Scragg on 03/10/2003 15:48:20
Since the CA has set up front companies to hide their true intentions and you where spotted a few systems away from one of their mining operations and we where unable to id you, you where shot with the assumption you where supporintg the CA operation. Unfortunatly we do shoot everyone suspected of aiding the enemy. We don't have time to play 20 quesitons to figure out what side you are on and we will occasionally make mistakes. War is a messy ugly thing. Mistakes will be made and some innocent people will be killed. If you don't want to get hurt stay away from the Curse and surronding regions until the CA menace is removed from the area, after that you will be free to travel, trade and mine in the area. If we destroyed your ship and we can confirm it was an accident and you where NOT aiding the enemy we will make an effort to replace your ship or compenstate you in some way. Don't beliebve me? Ask the White Sands Consortium. I settled a claim with them under similar circumstances. If you where not working with the Curse Alliance we apologize for your loss. Please avoid the war zone until such time as peace and order can be restored to the region. Everyone should note.. Cruse the and surronding area are is one large war zone and should be avoided. We would like nothing more than to target just CA ships but they have a proven history of employing deceptive tacts and we can not allow them to operate freely in the area in non-flagged ships. The area should be avoided until such time as peace and order are restored and the the Curse Alliance of Pirates is neutralized. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.10.03 15:05:00 -
[426] Edited by: Scragg on 03/10/2003 15:48:20
Since the CA has set up front companies to hide their true intentions and you where spotted a few systems away from one of their mining operations and we where unable to id you, you where shot with the assumption you where supporintg the CA operation. Unfortunatly we do shoot everyone suspected of aiding the enemy. We don't have time to play 20 quesitons to figure out what side you are on and we will occasionally make mistakes. War is a messy ugly thing. Mistakes will be made and some innocent people will be killed. If you don't want to get hurt stay away from the Curse and surronding regions until the CA menace is removed from the area, after that you will be free to travel, trade and mine in the area. If we destroyed your ship and we can confirm it was an accident and you where NOT aiding the enemy we will make an effort to replace your ship or compenstate you in some way. Don't beliebve me? Ask the White Sands Consortium. I settled a claim with them under similar circumstances. If you where not working with the Curse Alliance we apologize for your loss. Please avoid the war zone until such time as peace and order can be restored to the region. Everyone should note.. Cruse the and surronding area are is one large war zone and should be avoided. We would like nothing more than to target just CA ships but they have a proven history of employing deceptive tacts and we can not allow them to operate freely in the area in non-flagged ships. The area should be avoided until such time as peace and order are restored and the the Curse Alliance of Pirates is neutralized. |
Asimir Kurdugal |
Posted - 2003.10.03 17:35:00 -
[427]
This is the second time I've heard you say this, yet I haven't heard of any names of any of these "front" companies, or names of their members. Basically, you haven't given one shred of proof. ________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |
 Asimir Kurdugal Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.03 17:35:00 -
[428]
This is the second time I've heard you say this, yet I haven't heard of any names of any of these "front" companies, or names of their members. Basically, you haven't given one shred of proof. ________________________________________________ Moving again, comfort of the chase Now and again, this my saving grace Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove Keep me alive and give me something to lose I've been gone so long, but I will come back I will come back for you |
Ramuis |
Posted - 2003.10.03 20:21:00 -
[429]
I just talked with Xirtam and he told me that incident where while you had the before mentioned war which you tell me havn't happened. When I look closer on that picture is ebalm3r from shinra corp. I first started to see shinra working with the VOTF when the afore mentioned war started, and again I have seen a thread regarding the beginning of this war.
I'm really getting tired of reading post like this. We are being called front offices for pirates and scragg claim that we use deceptive tactics. How can he say this just out of the blue?? It wasn't the CA who declared war on the CC, but as far as I know we havenÆt lost any ships to the CC so let them have a war with us... I donÆt believe we are going anywhere with these discussions, you are saying one thing, people I trust says another thing. If people want to know what is really happening then take a small frigat or cruiser and talk with us in local. See what kind of guys we are. ItÆs not safe in curse atm, to many trigger happy people from all over eve, but I hope it will soon be so every one can get on with their every day business. |
Ramuis Minmatar Software Innovative Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.03 20:21:00 -
[430]
I just talked with Xirtam and he told me that incident where while you had the before mentioned war which you tell me havn't happened. When I look closer on that picture is ebalm3r from shinra corp. I first started to see shinra working with the VOTF when the afore mentioned war started, and again I have seen a thread regarding the beginning of this war.
I'm really getting tired of reading post like this. We are being called front offices for pirates and scragg claim that we use deceptive tactics. How can he say this just out of the blue?? It wasn't the CA who declared war on the CC, but as far as I know we havenÆt lost any ships to the CC so let them have a war with us... I donÆt believe we are going anywhere with these discussions, you are saying one thing, people I trust says another thing. If people want to know what is really happening then take a small frigat or cruiser and talk with us in local. See what kind of guys we are. ItÆs not safe in curse atm, to many trigger happy people from all over eve, but I hope it will soon be so every one can get on with their every day business. |
Asmodia |
Posted - 2003.10.03 21:07:00 -
[431]
I remember the time MASS was proud to destroy Battleships... Are indies the only thing you can kill now ? ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
 Asmodia SPECTRE Syndicate |
Posted - 2003.10.03 21:07:00 -
[432]
I remember the time MASS was proud to destroy Battleships... Are indies the only thing you can kill now ? ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
Alynthir |
Posted - 2003.10.03 21:09:00 -
[433]
There was no war. Period. Only CC corps hunting down VOTF and RC prior to the... You know what... screw it. It is obvious that no amount of calm or rational talk can solve this. If Xirtam says that, then it must be true. We are all lying backstabbers. See you on the battlefield, folks. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.03 21:09:00 -
[434]
There was no war. Period. Only CC corps hunting down VOTF and RC prior to the... You know what... screw it. It is obvious that no amount of calm or rational talk can solve this. If Xirtam says that, then it must be true. We are all lying backstabbers. See you on the battlefield, folks. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5 |
Xeris |
Posted - 2003.10.04 00:15:00 -
[435]
The first and only words from the CC I'd agree with. Too lazy to get my sig changed |
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.04 00:15:00 -
[436]
The first and only words from the CC I'd agree with. |
dalman |
Posted - 2003.10.04 01:57:00 -
[437]
LOL, well, it's easier to destroy indies, since everyone with a battleship docks asap when they see us in local. As stated, the pilot wasn't from MASS(though it doesn't matter). And the ore he destroyed was probably worth about a battleship. M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman Finite Horizon |
Posted - 2003.10.04 01:57:00 -
[438]
LOL, well, it's easier to destroy indies, since everyone with a battleship docks asap when they see us in local. As stated, the pilot wasn't from MASS(though it doesn't matter). And the ore he destroyed was probably worth about a battleship. I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Asmodia |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:05:00 -
[439]
Good to hear i had the fear i will read something like SA owned CA ... post :we destroyed a shuttle...------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
Asmodia SPECTRE Syndicate |
Posted - 2003.10.04 02:05:00 -
[440]
Good to hear i had the fear i will read something like SA owned CA ... post :we destroyed a shuttle...------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.04 04:03:00 -
[441]
Unfortunatly we dont own a TITAN yet. I doubt even the l33t3st of indys can carry 5000 untis of bistot. If anyone has an indy that can carry 80K cargo space, let me know I WANT IT. LOL, well, it's easier to destroy indies, since everyone with a battleship docks asap when they see us in local. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.04 04:03:00 -
[442]
Unfortunatly we dont own a TITAN yet. I doubt even the l33t3st of indys can carry 5000 untis of bistot. If anyone has an indy that can carry 80K cargo space, let me know I WANT IT. LOL, well, it's easier to destroy indies, since everyone with a battleship docks asap when they see us in local. |
Dobbo |
Posted - 2003.10.04 04:54:00 -
[443] hehe, your time is comming, dont worry --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Dobbo Gallente Frontier Technologies |
Posted - 2003.10.04 04:54:00 -
[444] hehe, your time is comming, dont worry --------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:31:00 -
[445] lol reclaimer:
as we speak, your forces outnumber ours almost 2 to 1, and you are the ones cowaring in a station and at safe spots. stop sucking at eve, and the forums, please. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:31:00 -
[446] lol reclaimer:
as we speak, your forces outnumber ours almost 2 to 1, and you are the ones cowaring in a station and at safe spots. stop sucking at eve, and the forums, please. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:42:00 -
[447]
You first buddy. Dont make me post the chat log we had. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:42:00 -
[448]
You first buddy. Dont make me post the chat log we had. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:43:00 -
[449]
Oh realy? Dude you are such a liar. All your guys logged and you ran. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.04 05:43:00 -
[450]
Oh realy? Dude you are such a liar. All your guys logged and you ran. |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 06:07:00 -
[451] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 06:08:10 reclaimer, after sitting in and around hlw for the past 7 hours, yes, we logged off. would you like a cookie? you invited us to come to curse so you could kill us. we did. you sat in stations for 1/3rd of the day. and, most of the time, you had greater numbers. so... keep talking. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 06:07:00 -
[452] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 06:08:10 reclaimer, after sitting in and around hlw for the past 7 hours, yes, we logged off. would you like a cookie? you invited us to come to curse so you could kill us. we did. you sat in stations for 1/3rd of the day. and, most of the time, you had greater numbers. so... keep talking. |
Asmodia |
Posted - 2003.10.04 06:51:00 -
[453] Are there ships of the most 'powerful' fighting force of Stain know as 'The Collective' in Curse ? i would like to have your problems ... my problem why i stopped pvp was, i undocked and BS commander open convestions and tell me they dont want to fight me  ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
Asmodia SPECTRE Syndicate |
Posted - 2003.10.04 06:51:00 -
[454] Are there ships of the most 'powerful' fighting force of Stain know as 'The Collective' in Curse ? i would like to have your problems ... my problem why i stopped pvp was, i undocked and BS commander open convestions and tell me they dont want to fight me ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |
PsXDnS |
Posted - 2003.10.04 07:15:00 -
[455] i want a cookie! |
PsXDnS Caldari Blood Bank |
Posted - 2003.10.04 07:15:00 -
[456] i want a cookie! |
Angelus Ice |
Posted - 2003.10.04 08:59:00 -
[457] You're right Homo, you have been in that system for the past 7 hours: Logged on an alt, waiting to see only one of us in system, so 7 of your guys can log on to hunt the one. Same in syndicate, same here. Same boring HOMO.
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 Angelus Ice Amarr O.E.C |
Posted - 2003.10.04 08:59:00 -
[458] You're right Homo, you have been in that system for the past 7 hours: Logged on an alt, waiting to see only one of us in system, so 7 of your guys can log on to hunt the one. Same in syndicate, same here. Same boring HOMO. ________________________________________________
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Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:31:00 -
[459] no angelus ice, you are simply wrong. no surprise. our forces were in curse, seconds away from your hq all of last evening. much of that time was spent in hlw itself. your side made a strategic retreat, logoff, mass scatter, whatever you want to call it. so heres the facts: CA asked for us to come to hlw so CA could own us. We did. For 7 hours we were in the core systems of curse, including hlw. For much of the time, CA had greater numbers. Not one decent fight occured due to CA's massive log offs, and sitting in stations. For the last 1.5 hrs we were sitting outside of the bttom station in hlw, there were more CA in hlw than our forces, by almost 2 to 1 odds. And angelus, plz don't try to tell me that we only hang around when the odds are in our favour. You know better. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:31:00 -
[460] no angelus ice, you are simply wrong. no surprise. our forces were in curse, seconds away from your hq all of last evening. much of that time was spent in hlw itself. your side made a strategic retreat, logoff, mass scatter, whatever you want to call it. so heres the facts: CA asked for us to come to hlw so CA could own us. We did. For 7 hours we were in the core systems of curse, including hlw. For much of the time, CA had greater numbers. Not one decent fight occured due to CA's massive log offs, and sitting in stations. For the last 1.5 hrs we were sitting outside of the bttom station in hlw, there were more CA in hlw than our forces, by almost 2 to 1 odds. And angelus, plz don't try to tell me that we only hang around when the odds are in our favour. You know better. |
Sforza |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:49:00 -
[461]
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Sforza Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:49:00 -
[462]
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Stavros |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:50:00 -
[463] LMAO fight when you want where you want, never fight a prepared enemy if you can avoid it. Besides, if you leave an enemy they get bored and waste 7 hours of their lives, it gets them much more annoyed than a 40 second lag fest, killing/loosing a few ships, then watching the smack talk fest on the forums, something I learned first hand. I remember watching your guys sat 2 systems out from hlw, whilst our guys logged off slowly over the course of 6 hours. I remember sitting around in yz-lql making up schemes about bull****ting we were paid to go there, because the some of fountain's forces were sat in station smack talking. I remember the 3rd time I was in yz-lql and no fountain would even come out and we sat for 6 hours, killed a few stragglers and left. Its the nature of the game, its the rules of the game, its how this game works. The hypocritical bull**** from both sides is frankly lame. OOOH YOU WOULDN'T FIGHT, OOOH YOU CALLED US EXPLOITERS.... Its rather sad to watch it all really... Sooner or later alot more people are going to realise the futility of pvp in eve, its just a matter of time. Stavros -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.10.04 15:50:00 -
[464] LMAO fight when you want where you want, never fight a prepared enemy if you can avoid it. Besides, if you leave an enemy they get bored and waste 7 hours of their lives, it gets them much more annoyed than a 40 second lag fest, killing/loosing a few ships, then watching the smack talk fest on the forums, something I learned first hand. I remember watching your guys sat 2 systems out from hlw, whilst our guys logged off slowly over the course of 6 hours. I remember sitting around in yz-lql making up schemes about bull****ting we were paid to go there, because the some of fountain's forces were sat in station smack talking. I remember the 3rd time I was in yz-lql and no fountain would even come out and we sat for 6 hours, killed a few stragglers and left. Its the nature of the game, its the rules of the game, its how this game works. The hypocritical bull**** from both sides is frankly lame. OOOH YOU WOULDN'T FIGHT, OOOH YOU CALLED US EXPLOITERS.... Its rather sad to watch it all really... Sooner or later alot more people are going to realise the futility of pvp in eve, its just a matter of time. Stavros -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:01:00 -
[465] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 16:05:59 stav, i don't think you're smart enough to get it. so, once again, i will put the single digit numbers together for you. no one is saying that a mass logoff (as you did), or a mass station bingo game(as you did) is evil. it's not a sin to not fight a battle that you are not 300% sure you can win. and, i didn't say it was either. what i said was, you guys told us to come to curse, where you would supposedly kill us. we did. we were there all night long. you didn't kill us. it seems simple to me. in your own post you make youself a dunce. we sat outside your stations and in your systems last night for 7 hours. that was the plan. to come and wait for a fight. we completed every part of our goal that we possibly could. it was our intention to be where we were. it's not a waste of our time if we are doing what we wanted to do. by the way stav, it's going to be hard for you to claim your usual this bores me, i don't care, im leaving eve in 1 day stuff, sinc eyou just spent 15 minutes composing a post, just, for, me. yo dj, spin that wheel ps. I command you to post again, stav. Do as I command. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:01:00 -
[466] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 16:05:59 stav, i don't think you're smart enough to get it. so, once again, i will put the single digit numbers together for you. no one is saying that a mass logoff (as you did), or a mass station bingo game(as you did) is evil. it's not a sin to not fight a battle that you are not 300% sure you can win. and, i didn't say it was either. what i said was, you guys told us to come to curse, where you would supposedly kill us. we did. we were there all night long. you didn't kill us. it seems simple to me. in your own post you make youself a dunce. we sat outside your stations and in your systems last night for 7 hours. that was the plan. to come and wait for a fight. we completed every part of our goal that we possibly could. it was our intention to be where we were. it's not a waste of our time if we are doing what we wanted to do. by the way stav, it's going to be hard for you to claim your usual this bores me, i don't care, im leaving eve in 1 day stuff, sinc eyou just spent 15 minutes composing a post, just, for, me. yo dj, spin that wheel ps. I command you to post again, stav. Do as I command. |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:06:00 -
[467] Edited by: Stavros on 04/10/2003 16:07:31 dunno how fast you type, post took about a few mins if that and it wasnt just for you, didnt even mention you by name, your just mildly obsessed with me i think, kinda scary anyway i'm off for a night of clubbing, boozing and trying to upchuck on my mates floor... have a good night of eve and forum warrioring homo... ps lets all edit our posts and include stuff that we stole off of stav oh yeah... gg.. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:06:00 -
[468] Edited by: Stavros on 04/10/2003 16:07:31 dunno how fast you type, post took about a few mins if that and it wasnt just for you, didnt even mention you by name, your just mildly obsessed with me i think, kinda scary anyway i'm off for a night of clubbing, boozing and trying to upchuck on my mates floor... have a good night of eve and forum warrioring homo... ps lets all edit our posts and include stuff that we stole off of stav oh yeah... gg.. -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:09:00 -
[469] so now, anyone who would vote for you for emp, should realize, they would really be voting for me. you do, ofc, carry out my biddings. k run along to ur clubs. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:09:00 -
[470] so now, anyone who would vote for you for emp, should realize, they would really be voting for me. you do, ofc, carry out my biddings. k run along to ur clubs. |
Stavros |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:13:00 -
[471] your edit 16:05:59 my post 16:06:00 funny how u said i spent 15 mins composing it, yet you 'commanded' me to type it and miraculously it appeared only 1 second later. Your an amateur, one day you'll realise it. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o |
Posted - 2003.10.04 16:13:00 -
[472] your edit 16:05:59 my post 16:06:00 funny how u said i spent 15 mins composing it, yet you 'commanded' me to type it and miraculously it appeared only 1 second later. Your an amateur, one day you'll realise it. -- "DANCE DANCE" |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:10:00 -
[473] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 17:11:17 stav. rdy for the 1+1? rdy set go. Posted - 04/10/2003 16:01:00 <--- my post. btw, a grammar edit shouldn't throw you off so much. ;[ Edited by: Stavros on 04/10/2003 16:07:31 <--- time you finished with your response to my post. that is 6.5 minutes, for you to compile 80 words. your original post, the one to which I was estimating a 15 minute completion time: 210 words. using simple logic(stick with me here stavy) and simple math, one could easily conclude that if it took you about 6 and a half minutes to compose 80 words, it would take you about 17 minutes to compose 210. stav, cmon. try. you're seriously lucky that I actually enjoy educating eve newbies like you, lest I would have stopped conversing with you months ago. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:10:00 -
[474] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 04/10/2003 17:11:17 stav. rdy for the 1+1? rdy set go. Posted - 04/10/2003 16:01:00 <--- my post. btw, a grammar edit shouldn't throw you off so much. ;[ Edited by: Stavros on 04/10/2003 16:07:31 <--- time you finished with your response to my post. that is 6.5 minutes, for you to compile 80 words. your original post, the one to which I was estimating a 15 minute completion time: 210 words. using simple logic(stick with me here stavy) and simple math, one could easily conclude that if it took you about 6 and a half minutes to compose 80 words, it would take you about 17 minutes to compose 210. stav, cmon. try. you're seriously lucky that I actually enjoy educating eve newbies like you, lest I would have stopped conversing with you months ago. |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:15:00 -
[475] oh, and just for any bystanders clarification; we are not debating who can post faster, or more wpm. simply pointing out that stav spends an awful lot of time on the sidelines(forums) for a game that supposedly bores him and he doesn't care about. ;[ |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:15:00 -
[476] oh, and just for any bystanders clarification; we are not debating who can post faster, or more wpm. simply pointing out that stav spends an awful lot of time on the sidelines(forums) for a game that supposedly bores him and he doesn't care about. ;[ |
Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:49:00 -
[477] Edited by: Nirvy on 04/10/2003 17:50:28
And you must also have too much time on your hand..i mean cmon... i've never seen anyone sink to arguing over word counts |
 Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:49:00 -
[478] Edited by: Nirvy on 04/10/2003 17:50:28
And you must also have too much time on your hand..i mean cmon... i've never seen anyone sink to arguing over word counts |
Ariel Monupult |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:55:00 -
[479] Edited by: Ariel Monupult on 04/10/2003 17:56:18 |
 Ariel Monupult Minmatar Republic Military School |
Posted - 2003.10.04 17:55:00 -
[480] Edited by: Ariel Monupult on 04/10/2003 17:56:18 |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.04 18:00:00 -
[481] nirvy, plz read the post above yours. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 18:00:00 -
[482] nirvy, plz read the post above yours. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.04 18:00:00 -
[483] nirvy, plz read the post above yours. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |
Scragg |
Posted - 2003.10.05 01:48:00 -
[484]
I'm sure you are tired of posts like this. CA would like nothing more than to see an endless stream of victems to wander into your pirate blockades in the region. The CC on the other hand would like to see innocent people stay clear of the war zone so they are not murdered by CA piartes or accidently shot in our scum removal operations. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.10.05 01:48:00 -
[485]
I'm sure you are tired of posts like this. CA would like nothing more than to see an endless stream of victems to wander into your pirate blockades in the region. The CC on the other hand would like to see innocent people stay clear of the war zone so they are not murdered by CA piartes or accidently shot in our scum removal operations. |
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION |
Posted - 2003.10.05 01:48:00 -
[486]
I'm sure you are tired of posts like this. CA would like nothing more than to see an endless stream of victems to wander into your pirate blockades in the region. The CC on the other hand would like to see innocent people stay clear of the war zone so they are not murdered by CA piartes or accidently shot in our scum removal operations. |
Xeris |
Posted - 2003.10.05 06:20:00 -
[487]
Thats what you're hear for. Too lazy to get my sig changed |
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.05 06:20:00 -
[488]
Thats what you're hear for. |
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.05 06:20:00 -
[489]
Thats what you're hear for. |
 preturi |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:09:00 -
[490] digging out corpses for the ppl that know what this is about :) |
preturi |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:09:00 -
[491] digging out corpses for the ppl that know what this is about :) |
 Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[492]
You, and everyone else who is doing this is really really sad. Please **** off. |
 Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[493]
necro ftl EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard |
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[494]
You, and everyone else who is doing this is really really sad. Please **** off. |
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[495]
necro ftl EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard |
 Taurequis Waylander 01 |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:17:00 -
[496]
Everyone commiting this type of necro should be shot. It destroys the ability of new players to go back to the start of these forums and read the decent epic threads of our history in their proper context. This and any other necro thread is effectively lost forever amid the thousands of newer posts. Its not big, its not clever. Taur |
Taurequis Waylander 01 |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:17:00 -
[497]
Everyone commiting this type of necro should be shot. It destroys the ability of new players to go back to the start of these forums and read the decent epic threads of our history in their proper context. This and any other necro thread is effectively lost forever amid the thousands of newer posts. Its not big, its not clever. Taur |
 Kam SingDu'k Singularity. |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:23:00 -
[498]
wudnt it have been better just to have linked the page? then again another necro noob would have brought it up. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Taiatia (mods@ccpgames) |
 munchy Prison Break Inc. |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:23:00 -
[499] burn the necros --- |
 Pilok Shitfly |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:34:00 -
[500] Damn, just wasted 5 minutes of my life (can't access My character to change setting) |
 Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department |
Posted - 2007.02.25 22:37:00 -
[501] Let 2003 keep it's threads please. |
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