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Scragg	Posted - 2003.09.29 17:45:00 - [241] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:48:33 Fubie did not make this declaration unilaterally. The Curse Coalition CEOs all agreed on our stance. So, quit busting his chops. The Curse Coalition consists of sixteen different corporations with (at last count) 368 members. No, I wonÆt post a list of the CC members but I will happily send one to the Stain and Fountain Alliance CEOs upon request. Curse Coalition member corps should all have *Proud Member of the Curse Coalition* in their corporation description. Yes, we played nice and agreed to join this alliance of *****s (buttocks orifices). Once we realized our new friends had no intentions of being a legitimate alliance we quickly got our people to safe locations and severed our ties the pirates. Pirates and those who support them will not be aloud to operate freely in Curse. It will take time and we have no illusions this will be an easy fight but we will remove this blight from Curse and we will join forces with anyone who has the same goal. Scragg Birds of Prey * Pround member of the Curse Coalition *** P.S. There is the BoPs answer to the CA "Tax". We do not support piracy. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2003.09.29 17:45:00 - [242] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:48:33 Fubie did not make this declaration unilaterally. The Curse Coalition CEOs all agreed on our stance. So, quit busting his chops. The Curse Coalition consists of sixteen different corporations with (at last count) 368 members. No, I wonÆt post a list of the CC members but I will happily send one to the Stain and Fountain Alliance CEOs upon request. Curse Coalition member corps should all have *Proud Member of the Curse Coalition* in their corporation description. Yes, we played nice and agreed to join this alliance of *****s (buttocks orifices). Once we realized our new friends had no intentions of being a legitimate alliance we quickly got our people to safe locations and severed our ties the pirates. Pirates and those who support them will not be aloud to operate freely in Curse. It will take time and we have no illusions this will be an easy fight but we will remove this blight from Curse and we will join forces with anyone who has the same goal. Scragg Birds of Prey * Pround member of the Curse Coalition *** P.S. There is the BoPs answer to the CA "Tax". We do not support piracy.
Scragg	Posted - 2003.09.29 17:55:00 - [243] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:56:56 Quote: TERROR, LOL, you are the biggest laugh I have ever seen, and this is why CC will go down in flames. Your intell lacks any intelligence at all. Your so called facts are scewed with rediculous claims. Your entire CC is made up of backstabbers, liars, and cowards that hire other corps to do their dirty work. Hmmm... lets have Fubie deny that.. looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. Xirt, May I recommend this link Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2003.09.29 17:55:00 - [244] Edited by: Scragg on 29/09/2003 17:56:56 Quote: TERROR, LOL, you are the biggest laugh I have ever seen, and this is why CC will go down in flames. Your intell lacks any intelligence at all. Your so called facts are scewed with rediculous claims. Your entire CC is made up of backstabbers, liars, and cowards that hire other corps to do their dirty work. Hmmm... lets have Fubie deny that.. looks like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. Xirt, May I recommend this link
Joviah	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:03:00 - [245] Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joviah, CEO of Magrathea Heavy Industries. Many of you may know my name from in-game encounters, however I do not post on the official boards very much. This is due in-part because I choose to spend my time acting on my opinions, rather than ranting and raving about them. However, let it be known that Magrathea Heavy Industries (EMHI) has been in the Curse Region for some time now. We were part of the alliances that were there BEFORE Sinister and their friends decided to move in. When reports first began pouring in that Sinister was in town, we (being our alliance) negotiated a NAP with them, in order to give ourselves a bit of breathing room until our course of action could be chosen. This was taken fully out of context by Sinister and they began considering us a part of their "Curse Alliance," which I deeply regret. EMHI fully supports Fubie and Nexus Enterprises, as well as Tyrell and the other Curse Coalition members. This is due to our corporation standing towards piracy, and all of our members have sworn to fight pirates to the end. Our main objective at this point is to assist the alliances opposing Sinister and their friends in the clearing of pirate forces in Curse. Our secondary objective is to keep Curse a friendly area for pilots to fly in. ALL of our corporate assets will be aimed at these goals. Let me give you a bit of history regarding this, as it seems the rumors are flying fast and furious: Sinister, specifically Leyla, gives out alot of lip service about their corporation and their allies not being pirates. I assure you that they are, and always have been. They show no signs of changing their ways, and are so piratical that they even shoot their own allies. Hell, half of them don't even know who they are fighting, or why. Another point -- this past Saturday there was a meeting, chaired by Sinister, in order to organize the corporations in the alliance. They claim to have invited all CEO's to this meeting. I'm here to tell you, not all of the CEO's got an invite to that little charade. And from what I hear, the meeting was nothing but a bunch of hot-tempered little boys and girls talking about how much they wanted to kill Stain and Fountain Alliances. They also want to levy a tax on the members of the Curse Alliance based on the number of personnel in the respective corporation. This is completely unacceptable, especially when one takes Sinister's historical track record into account. Our breathing room has now paid off in full, and we now know who our friends are and are not. It also gave us some time to eat the Curse Alliance away from the inside, spreading mis-information on the inside, and providing information to Stain and Fountain when appropriate. On behalf of the Curse Coalition, I would like to say one last thing to the mambers of the Curse Alliance -- LEAVE. Leave Curse now, and we will not hunt you down. Leave Curse and go back to wherever you came from. We care not where you go, nor what happens to you. All we care about is having a safe spot for our personnel to progress through their EVE careers, and we are prepared to fight alongside the military forces that support us. I will also stress that the Coalition has been paid off by noone. Nobody has offered us anything but friendship and courteous chat since we've come forward, and even before then. Get ready Sin/RUS/Red Corsairs/m0o -- we're coming for you. Joviah Director, Cirrius Technologies
Joviah Caldari	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:03:00 - [246] Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joviah, CEO of Magrathea Heavy Industries. Many of you may know my name from in-game encounters, however I do not post on the official boards very much. This is due in-part because I choose to spend my time acting on my opinions, rather than ranting and raving about them. However, let it be known that Magrathea Heavy Industries (EMHI) has been in the Curse Region for some time now. We were part of the alliances that were there BEFORE Sinister and their friends decided to move in. When reports first began pouring in that Sinister was in town, we (being our alliance) negotiated a NAP with them, in order to give ourselves a bit of breathing room until our course of action could be chosen. This was taken fully out of context by Sinister and they began considering us a part of their "Curse Alliance," which I deeply regret. EMHI fully supports Fubie and Nexus Enterprises, as well as Tyrell and the other Curse Coalition members. This is due to our corporation standing towards piracy, and all of our members have sworn to fight pirates to the end. Our main objective at this point is to assist the alliances opposing Sinister and their friends in the clearing of pirate forces in Curse. Our secondary objective is to keep Curse a friendly area for pilots to fly in. ALL of our corporate assets will be aimed at these goals. Let me give you a bit of history regarding this, as it seems the rumors are flying fast and furious: Sinister, specifically Leyla, gives out alot of lip service about their corporation and their allies not being pirates. I assure you that they are, and always have been. They show no signs of changing their ways, and are so piratical that they even shoot their own allies. Hell, half of them don't even know who they are fighting, or why. Another point -- this past Saturday there was a meeting, chaired by Sinister, in order to organize the corporations in the alliance. They claim to have invited all CEO's to this meeting. I'm here to tell you, not all of the CEO's got an invite to that little charade. And from what I hear, the meeting was nothing but a bunch of hot-tempered little boys and girls talking about how much they wanted to kill Stain and Fountain Alliances. They also want to levy a tax on the members of the Curse Alliance based on the number of personnel in the respective corporation. This is completely unacceptable, especially when one takes Sinister's historical track record into account. Our breathing room has now paid off in full, and we now know who our friends are and are not. It also gave us some time to eat the Curse Alliance away from the inside, spreading mis-information on the inside, and providing information to Stain and Fountain when appropriate. On behalf of the Curse Coalition, I would like to say one last thing to the mambers of the Curse Alliance -- LEAVE. Leave Curse now, and we will not hunt you down. Leave Curse and go back to wherever you came from. We care not where you go, nor what happens to you. All we care about is having a safe spot for our personnel to progress through their EVE careers, and we are prepared to fight alongside the military forces that support us. I will also stress that the Coalition has been paid off by noone. Nobody has offered us anything but friendship and courteous chat since we've come forward, and even before then. Get ready Sin/RUS/Red Corsairs/m0o -- we're coming for you.
Stavros	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:05:00 - [247] You should all just get over yourselves... Take a step back and realise its just a game... 1 week to go.... -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Stavros Amarr DEFINITELY NOT m0o	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:05:00 - [248] You should all just get over yourselves... Take a step back and realise its just a game... 1 week to go.... -- "DANCE DANCE"
Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 - [249] Quote: Once upon a time Curse was a pirate nest. One day the pirates decided to focus somewhere else in EVE galaxy. Since the majority of pirates had left new corps arrived. They still had to fight pirates thou but not huge fleets. After awhile some corp got to know and trust eachother and together they combined forces. Then one day a guy says... hey why not make this an alliance ? Hmm yeah why not ? So the so called Curse Alliance was formed. This alliance was based around HLW in Curse and the natural filter to the rest of curse. After patroling for some time more corps settled down in curse since the pirates were dealt with....and so.. another alliance pops up. Ahhh the Curse Alliance says... why not make friends with this other alliance. A meeting was held and the CA gave the offer to the other alliance. They thought about it but couldnt quite decide how good friends since the CA had a known Roleplaying pirate corp among them (Red Corsairs). So it ended with a NAP (Non Agression Pact). Then out of the blue Nexus Enterprises start talking about forming a third alliance (Curse Coalition). They approach the second (nameless alliance). Now what happens im unsure of but about 2-3 weeks later i get informed that Curse Coalition was trying to hire well know pirate corps to destroy Curse Alliance. But Curse Coalition miscalculated something cause these pirates wouldnt attack the Curse Alliance after all since these pirates respected the Curse Alliance. Then another champion show up on the scene SA (Stain Alliance) like most other corps they regarded Red Corsairs as random pirates (which they are not) so they charged into Curse region claiming they needed a path to fight the Red Corsairs and killed people considered as allies to Red Corsairs. So now Curse Alliance had to worry about Curse Coalition and the Stain people. Then Sinister and RUS offer their help cause they have a problem with Stain. We agree that if corps are to work together we better drop the pirate thing all together and try make Curse a home. We make a friend list and a very short KOS list, cause the problem is not Curse citizens but now the big threat came from Stain. Then Stain make a good PR show telling all people Curse Alliance is infested with pirates and all anti-pirate corps clap in thier hands.. ahhh a target. So the war comes to Curse and behind the curtain Curse Coalition awaits the outcome. They wait... and wait.. and wait and one day.. ahhh nows our chance. Sorry to bud in but as a Curse citizen personally and other that I know off have never been attacked inside Curse region in any solar system, after the war begun I had postponed my travels in and out Curse to around PO4F-3 a 6 station system, that seems to be the system that CEO of Nexus Fubie resides, ass I see him in system all the time, appart from that I see close to none from Nexus appart from a few random logins, which ofcourse were more before the war erupts. I ve been talking to guys with other corps stationed in the area and it seems they dont play much lately. I never saw a TYRELL member in Curse but yet again I might not have travelled through the systems that they reside, though before the war I dont remember seeing anyone of them since I often traveled to nearby station systems and to the best hunting spots the Curse has to offer. What I have understood from the whole situation is that since the CA seemd friendly I believe they decided to settle down and play nice, for some unknown to me reason SA and FA attacked an industrial ship and claimed Curse and Stain regions as warzones. I also do remember that when I stated my oppinion as SA attack to the indy pilot to be unfair someone from SA called me a lier and with no credibility although I never had anythink to do against SA before. That is as much as I understand as a bystander from this whole situation by now. Last night I noticed a member from FA corp. Old Farts "Cujo" and a pilot named Dobbo and Nexus CEO Fubie together inside POF4-3 at late night hours, and after 30 mins I witnesed Fubie's post in the general discussions forum, which is now moved to this forum. my 2 cents Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux
Scragg	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 - [250] Quote: Hmmm time for a little background story: Once upon a time.... The first line says it all. We all know what kind of stories begin with "once upon a time". The facts to note: The Red Corsairs where members of and supported by the old Curse Alliance. Pirates and those who support them will not be tolerated by the Curse Coalition in any way, shape, or form. The only reason we even agreed on the NAP with the old CA was because we where informed the Red Corsairs had agreed to give up piracy. As previously stated we are willing to be open minded and give people who have seen the error of their ways a chance at a legitimate living. The Red Corsairs did not give up piracy and when they started shooting at our members we went after them and their supporters. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 - [251] Quote: Hmmm time for a little background story: Once upon a time.... The first line says it all. We all know what kind of stories begin with "once upon a time". The facts to note: The Red Corsairs where members of and supported by the old Curse Alliance. Pirates and those who support them will not be tolerated by the Curse Coalition in any way, shape, or form. The only reason we even agreed on the NAP with the old CA was because we where informed the Red Corsairs had agreed to give up piracy. As previously stated we are willing to be open minded and give people who have seen the error of their ways a chance at a legitimate living. The Red Corsairs did not give up piracy and when they started shooting at our members we went after them and their supporters.
Intruders	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:19:00 - [252] Quote: Once upon a time Curse was a pirate nest. One day the pirates decided to focus somewhere else in EVE galaxy. Since the majority of pirates had left new corps arrived. They still had to fight pirates thou but not huge fleets. After awhile some corp got to know and trust eachother and together they combined forces. Then one day a guy says... hey why not make this an alliance ? Hmm yeah why not ? So the so called Curse Alliance was formed. This alliance was based around HLW in Curse and the natural filter to the rest of curse. After patroling for some time more corps settled down in curse since the pirates were dealt with....and so.. another alliance pops up. Ahhh the Curse Alliance says... why not make friends with this other alliance. A meeting was held and the CA gave the offer to the other alliance. They thought about it but couldnt quite decide how good friends since the CA had a known Roleplaying pirate corp among them (Red Corsairs). So it ended with a NAP (Non Agression Pact). Then out of the blue Nexus Enterprises start talking about forming a third alliance (Curse Coalition). They approach the second (nameless alliance). Now what happens im unsure of but about 2-3 weeks later i get informed that Curse Coalition was trying to hire well know pirate corps to destroy Curse Alliance. But Curse Coalition miscalculated something cause these pirates wouldnt attack the Curse Alliance after all since these pirates respected the Curse Alliance. Then another champion show up on the scene SA (Stain Alliance) like most other corps they regarded Red Corsairs as random pirates (which they are not) so they charged into Curse region claiming they needed a path to fight the Red Corsairs and killed people considered as allies to Red Corsairs. So now Curse Alliance had to worry about Curse Coalition and the Stain people. Then Sinister and RUS offer their help cause they have a problem with Stain. We agree that if corps are to work together we better drop the pirate thing all together and try make Curse a home. We make a friend list and a very short KOS list, cause the problem is not Curse citizens but now the big threat came from Stain. Then Stain make a good PR show telling all people Curse Alliance is infested with pirates and all anti-pirate corps clap in thier hands.. ahhh a target. So the war comes to Curse and behind the curtain Curse Coalition awaits the outcome. They wait... and wait.. and wait and one day.. ahhh nows our chance. Sorry to bud in but as a Curse citizen personally and other that I know off have never been attacked inside Curse region in any solar system, after the war begun I had postponed my travels in and out Curse to around PO4F-3 a 6 station system, that seems to be the system that CEO of Nexus Fubie resides, ass I see him in system all the time, appart from that I see close to none from Nexus appart from a few random logins, which ofcourse were more before the war erupts. I ve been talking to guys with other corps stationed in the area and it seems they dont play much lately. I never saw a TYRELL member in Curse but yet again I might not have travelled through the systems that they reside, though before the war I dont remember seeing anyone of them since I often traveled to nearby station systems and to the best hunting spots the Curse has to offer. What I have understood from the whole situation is that since the CA seemd friendly I believe they decided to settle down and play nice, for some unknown to me reason SA and FA attacked an industrial ship and claimed Curse and Stain regions as warzones. I also do remember that when I stated my oppinion as SA attack to the indy pilot to be unfair someone from SA called me a lier and with no credibility although I never had anythink to do against SA before. That is as much as I understand as a bystander from this whole situation by now. Last night I noticed a member from FA corp. Old Farts "Cujo" and a pilot named Dobbo and Nexus CEO Fubie together inside POF4-3 at late night hours, and after 30 mins I witnesed Fubie's post in the general discussions forum, which is now moved to this forum. my 2 cents Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux
Beneb	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:34:00 - [253] If anyone thinks that Votf and the Red Corsairs are the same people you are the dumbest human beings on the face of this earth. These two corps are allies not alts. Our corp has left Curse because of all the bugs in the game, which caused many of our members to quit (just check the Corp. forum). I don't care what is going on because I'm not involved. Everyone realise that VOTF and Red Corsairs are different corps. Votf members have Votf in their name because they are a group of players from other games that were in the same guilds. Hence, they all pu Votf in their name. I can't express how stupid you are if you believe they are alts. Playing golf is like playing fetch without the dog.
Beneb Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:34:00 - [254] If anyone thinks that Votf and the Red Corsairs are the same people you are the dumbest human beings on the face of this earth. These two corps are allies not alts. Our corp has left Curse because of all the bugs in the game, which caused many of our members to quit (just check the Corp. forum). I don't care what is going on because I'm not involved. Everyone realise that VOTF and Red Corsairs are different corps. Votf members have Votf in their name because they are a group of players from other games that were in the same guilds. Hence, they all pu Votf in their name. I can't express how stupid you are if you believe they are alts. Playing golf is like playing fetch without the dog.
Sarkos	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 - [255] Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51 Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly. In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect. I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates. When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers. When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources. Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie? While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains. For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2003.09.29 18:40:00 - [256] Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:46:39 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:44:57 Edited by: Sarkos on 29/09/2003 18:42:51 Well, Oracle is not pirates, unless you wish to consider the freeing of slaves as piracy. If that's the case than any Minmatar freedom fighters are considered pirates. Coming from any Amarr or corporations supporting slavery, I would wear that moniker proudly. In the past, the Red Corsairs did indeed comit normal acts of piracy, as well as fight against slavery. However, I personnaly acted as a moderator in a dispute between them and Knights of Minmatar Republic, a Minmatar freedom fighter corp. During these meetings, the Red Corsairs denounced thier role as pirates and fully commited themselves as freedom fighters. Since they are both part of the same alliance, I would say this is still in effect. I post this to show you that 'pirate' has different meanings to different races, from a roleplaying point of view. To MASS and others that engage in slavery, any Minmatar freedom fighting group are pirates. When Oracle moved into Curse, the SA had been engaging in many battles there already. MASS and The Collective mostly. We of course dedicated ourselves to help drive out these invaders. Then other Stain corps started to come in, and we started to find ourselves pressed for numbers. When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. Stain has stated they attacked us for being pirates, even prior to Sinister being here. Who is the pirates? Not the Red Corsairs, unless you consider raiding into Stain to free our kin from your slave ships. No, expansion is thier motive. Take Curse and they then have more resources and a easy access to Immense Sea, more resources. Now, the Curse Coalition claims acts of piracy from us against them. Show me proof. Just the other night, Fubie was in a meeting with Leyla and everything was fine and dandy. Now the backstab and accusations fly. If you had this problem, why not discuss it in the meeting Fubie? While the Curse Alliance fights to keep all safe in Curse, including the many non-alligned corps there, never have I seen a Curse Coalition corp joining in to help defend. If you wish to leave Curse, then by al means do so, as all you do is mine the resources and add nothing constructive for your gains. For those who know me, I do not lie and I keep to my honor. These are accurate facts as seen by myself. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Comander TAT	Posted - 2003.09.29 19:05:00 - [257] Defend agains who Sarkos ? untill last week there was noone to defend against appart from a few disorganised pirates ??????? most of us dont have a problem if any of the sa want to come to curse for whatever reason so what makes youi think we need to defend curse from anyone ? the curse coalition was origionally set up to keep curse open for anyone that wants to come here , knowing they wouldnt get attacked by griefing pirates . since you lot came here you have started a war that never needed fighting in the first place. so stop using as an excuse for blatant piracey !!!! Comander TAT Tyrell Corporation Director Military Operations * Proud Member of the Stain Aliance *
Comander TAT Caldari Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2003.09.29 19:05:00 - [258] Defend agains who Sarkos ? untill last week there was noone to defend against appart from a few disorganised pirates ??????? most of us dont have a problem if any of the sa want to come to curse for whatever reason so what makes youi think we need to defend curse from anyone ? the curse coalition was origionally set up to keep curse open for anyone that wants to come here , knowing they wouldnt get attacked by griefing pirates . since you lot came here you have started a war that never needed fighting in the first place. so stop using as an excuse for blatant piracey !!!! .......................................... Do you take it up the HOOP ?
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2003.09.29 19:32:00 - [259] Quote: When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. So you say they abided by all the rules you setup.. considering they have continued to kill ppl in Catch aswell as Syndicate, I would assume that pirating, and killing of noninvolved parties anywhere outside of curse, is one of the freedom the CA gives its members. So much for "not being pirates". Or are you just oblivious to whats REALLY going on?
Mr Blonde Amarr	Posted - 2003.09.29 19:32:00 - [260] Quote: When Sinister/m0o/RUS showed up, negotiations began immediately and it looked bad, as a two front war was near immpossible to fight. When they decided to join our alliance and pledge an end of thier piracy, I eyed it suspiciously, as both myself and my corp have lost ships to them in the past. In the time since, thier cooperation and integration into the Curse Alliance in defence and helping all of us has surprised me pleasently. They have abided by all of the rules set up, and have helped immensely. My respect for all of them grows daily, and though I am no fool, I find my wariness waneing. So you say they abided by all the rules you setup.. considering they have continued to kill ppl in Catch aswell as Syndicate, I would assume that pirating, and killing of noninvolved parties anywhere outside of curse, is one of the freedom the CA gives its members. So much for "not being pirates". Or are you just oblivious to whats REALLY going on?
Sarkos	Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 - [261] Commander TAT; As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend. To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides. Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Sarkos Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2003.09.29 20:03:00 - [262] Commander TAT; As you may be aware of, MASS and The Collective were operating in Curse prior to Sinister arriving. They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. During these incursions into Curse, many innocents were targeted and destroyed by these corporations. It is against them, as well as any invaders that we help defend. To you, and the rest of the Curse Coalition, I ask that you listen to all sides of the argument, and not just Fubie's. Though part of the Curse Alliance, if asked, I will remain neutral in helping to moderate any differences, as the truth needs to be unburied from the mass of lies covering it. Instead of tossing slander and inaccurate information around, perhaps a level headed meeting can be arranged to discuss these issues and clear up all facts from both sides. Like a coin, all arguments and problems have 2 sides. Only when both sides are seen in the full light of truth can responsible and reasonable people give a true accounting. As stated, I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved. Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
Araborne	Posted - 2003.09.29 20:11:00 - [263] "I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved." hey that sounds like a hoot, why don't we just get Jim Raynor to moderate, I am sure he would be fair too !!! You are a very funny man "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member * Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *
Araborne Caldari ZuPreem Inc	Posted - 2003.09.29 20:11:00 - [264] "I would volunteer as moderator, and be fair to all involved." hey that sounds like a hoot, why don't we just get Jim Raynor to moderate, I am sure he would be fair too !!! You are a very funny man "There is always deniability" --- Leyla, Curse Alliance of Pirates "Hey what kind of underpants am I wearing ?" --- Pooti, CrossDressing CA member * Proud Member of the Curse Coalition *
Alynthir	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:15:00 - [265] Quote: They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. What you are proposing about talking is admirable, but it was already tried and failed. Even when the CC and the CA had a pact of non agression, it was only because we had assurances of what you state above. Despite the fact that the week before the NA Pact CC members had responded to numerous calls for assistance involving agressive acts by the Red Corsairs, we foolishly believed your above statement to be the truth. As the days went by, it was proven that the RCs were not in any way trying to turn away from thier past actions. When Sinister showed up and started 'making friends', that when the CC drew the line. All of this nonsense about the CC hiring Sinister is just a smokescreen. It fails the common sense test. At no point has any CC member embraced piracy. It is, in fact, one of the primary articles of the Coalition Treaty that we root out and destroy pirates in Curse whenever possible. Why would we, the people who have taken a stance against the pirates and griefers, hire them? And think about that for a minute: to hire them would mean that money or goods or some sort changed hands. At no point has Nexus or any other CC corp EVER paid off a pirate corp. Just think about the twisted logic that has to be applied for you to believe what Xirtam and his Sinister masters are saying. I'm not going to rant or rave about lies and deciet as others have done, but I am tired of the misinformed thinking that they have something to fear from the Coalition. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau "Permanent = Today's Plan." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5
Alynthir Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:15:00 - [266] Quote: They used the excuse of fighting pirates, yet as explained, the Red Corsairs were no longer a pirate organization. What you are proposing about talking is admirable, but it was already tried and failed. Even when the CC and the CA had a pact of non agression, it was only because we had assurances of what you state above. Despite the fact that the week before the NA Pact CC members had responded to numerous calls for assistance involving agressive acts by the Red Corsairs, we foolishly believed your above statement to be the truth. As the days went by, it was proven that the RCs were not in any way trying to turn away from thier past actions. When Sinister showed up and started 'making friends', that when the CC drew the line. All of this nonsense about the CC hiring Sinister is just a smokescreen. It fails the common sense test. At no point has any CC member embraced piracy. It is, in fact, one of the primary articles of the Coalition Treaty that we root out and destroy pirates in Curse whenever possible. Why would we, the people who have taken a stance against the pirates and griefers, hire them? And think about that for a minute: to hire them would mean that money or goods or some sort changed hands. At no point has Nexus or any other CC corp EVER paid off a pirate corp. Just think about the twisted logic that has to be applied for you to believe what Xirtam and his Sinister masters are saying. I'm not going to rant or rave about lies and deciet as others have done, but I am tired of the misinformed thinking that they have something to fear from the Coalition. _ "I don't give a damn if you're guilty or not. I'm not paid to care." Training: Noob Instructor Level 5
The Reclaimer	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:21:00 - [267] Quote: Quote: Quote: Fact is that the Curse Alliance is built on lies. They claim that Sinister and their members have reformed, and are now the "military arm" of the Curse, where in fact they are still pirating on the other side of the Universe. Face it CA, before you actually get your pirate friends under control, and have them stop destroying your arguments by their actions, no one is going to believe a word you say. TLBC != SINC. The SINC left in FD-MLJ will most likely join TLBC soon, as we no longer are active there. I know they arent Sinister, Sinister was just a generalization of all "evil pirate corps " (even though as you stated Sinister also has some ppl up there) The point still stands though TLBC is a member of the Curse Alliance (with their wonderful PR Guru, Reclaimer) and therefore their actions as pirates are pretty much negating anything the CA says in terms of "we are just interested in defending our borders" . So even if the Sinister members up there do join TLBC, the Curse Alliance still has 1 of its member corps activly pirating in FD-M. This in turn proves my point just fine. The CA Council supports pirating in Syndicate, by having one of their member corps stationed up there, killing everyone who passes. The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about.
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:21:00 - [268] Quote: Quote: Quote: Fact is that the Curse Alliance is built on lies. They claim that Sinister and their members have reformed, and are now the "military arm" of the Curse, where in fact they are still pirating on the other side of the Universe. Face it CA, before you actually get your pirate friends under control, and have them stop destroying your arguments by their actions, no one is going to believe a word you say. TLBC != SINC. The SINC left in FD-MLJ will most likely join TLBC soon, as we no longer are active there. I know they arent Sinister, Sinister was just a generalization of all "evil pirate corps " (even though as you stated Sinister also has some ppl up there) The point still stands though TLBC is a member of the Curse Alliance (with their wonderful PR Guru, Reclaimer) and therefore their actions as pirates are pretty much negating anything the CA says in terms of "we are just interested in defending our borders" . So even if the Sinister members up there do join TLBC, the Curse Alliance still has 1 of its member corps activly pirating in FD-M. This in turn proves my point just fine. The CA Council supports pirating in Syndicate, by having one of their member corps stationed up there, killing everyone who passes. The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about.
Nasty Ways	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:42:00 - [269] Quote: The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about. You should be embarassed that an outsider has more understanding of the situation than you. Go go Reclaimer! --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ?
Nasty Ways Caldari	Posted - 2003.09.29 21:42:00 - [270] Quote: The funny thing is that you are nothing. Just and outside who needs to comment on stuff they have no idea about. You should be embarassed that an outsider has more understanding of the situation than you. Go go Reclaimer! --- who didnt know that there are NO FAIR FIGHTS ?

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