Hi,

I have a burner mission available (VS Dramiel). Since my skills are only good with flying Amarr ships/Laser Guns and the Retribution sucks I want to ask if there is a good fitting for a Succubus vs that dramiel?

one web is enough?

Is it worth to try to run these missions in a Kitsune? I imagine fitting 2 or 3 jammers would certainly take protect you from them, wouldn't it?

I wanted to post a inexpensive Kestrel fitting for the team burner missions. I used this for a Team Hawk burner mission.

You'll need a 3% CPU implant. I also used a Standard Mindflood Booster (capacitor) to make the ship cap stable otherwise you'll need to stop and start the active modules every couple of minutes.

Since the Kestrel has low DPS, I used the ECM on one of the logi frigs while I slowly brought down the other logi.

[Kestrel, team burner]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I

Good luck!

Well flying only amarr is a problem when fighting the cruor burner. The retri shoots his biggest resists and has cap issues.

If you have rocket skills, I would rather try the vengeance. Guns will always fire and the vamp helps keeping the mids alive. This fit is expensive but cpu is tight, so:

[Vengeance, antiBurner_cruor_expensive]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Coreli B-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized EM Membrane

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Nova Rage Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

be advised though that I never actually tried that fit. dmg and resists are on the low side and the rep will, even overloaded, over time not save you from death. So bring a buddy or alt to support you.

Regarding the hawk the fit is very similar:

[Hawk, AntiBurner_cruor]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Its even more expensive and has roughly the same stats.

Both options are not ideal though. I was only able to solo the crour in a wolf. But that works great. Other than that I think someone in this thread said something about a passive worm fit, but it did sound tedious.

Well good luck! Since the fits are expensive, bring a buddy or your alt in a disposable drone boat. I found that burners are easily distracted by them and it gives you room to escape if **** hits the fan.

[Garmur, kite]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

1MN Afterburner II
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Small Ionic Field Projector I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II



Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2689
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x1877
Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x1433
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x1500


just try this fit on enyo burner works excellent much better than without ECM

How much money are you all pouring into these ships? Is it actually worth the risk?

How much money are you all pouring into these ships? Is it actually worth the risk?

Is it worth to try to run these missions in a Kitsune? I imagine fitting 2 or 3 jammers would certainly take protect you from them, wouldn't it?

Ship used was the triple web rocket Vengeance with small pith-A repper.
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also, swapped navy mijiolnir for javelin mijiolnir.
applied damage was 194 per hit. navy was 204. But it went down faster. Under one min.

less dmg but faster max velocity and same 12m exp radius... cheap win!

But the Dramiel.... i done tens of Angel's in this fit... suggestions?


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How exactly was this won with javelins when the navy rockets do greater applied damage? There's something missing in the write-up.

As for the team burners, from my recent experience, the unified Garmur fit listed in the semi-faq doesn't quite cut it. The dps applied at max skill is too close to the borderline to break the tank for the 1st logi - my Caldari frigate is L4.