[Daredevil, Burner Dramiel]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

[Daredevil, Burner Succubus]
Shadow Serpentis Armor EM Hardener
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Anti-Thermic Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

[Daredevil, Burner Worm]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Ancillary Current Router I

[Worm, Burner Cruor]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Warrior II x5

[Ishkur, Burner Daredevil]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener

Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Warrior II x10

Have you tried any of the other Assault Frigs?

You should have posted this in the test server thread , it would be helpful for all those people wo could not figure them out and lost a dozen frigs failing

Yes, none work really. The major problem is the low sig + relatively high speed of all Burner, examples even with dual web+TP Hawk DPS is not even at 25% vs any Burner, even with dual web Enyo hits the Burner Dramiel never and so on. You need triple web so Vengeance/Jaguar might work, but their DPS is abysmal,

[Angel Burner]
Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

[sansha burner]
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Tracking Computer II,Tracking Speed Script
Small Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 400

Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S

Small Anti-EM Pump II
Small Anti-Thermic Pump II

Vengeance does work for the angle one .. allthough you need to overheat your repper/launcher or you will die:

Hm, thats weird, I used vengeance against angel guy and had absolutely no issues tanking him with single t2 sar and got him down really fast, like under 1 min - and with faction nova rockets...

Fozzie changed/tweaked the Burner two days ago. Maybe that's the reason, but aside form that the Angel one is shield tanking, so EM is its lowest resistance, i doubt you have killed him with nova = explo in under a 1min.

Fozzie changed/tweaked the Burner two days ago. Maybe that's the reason, but aside form that the Angel one is shield tanking, so EM is its lowest resistance, i doubt you have killed him with nova = explo in under a 1min.

Yes, none work really.

You can defeat them all with Assaults Frigs (even before Blood Raider nerf). Solo, no faction/deadspace modules, no links, no implants. Hawk can do the job against the Serpentis Daredevil, Wolf for the Blood Raider, and Enyo for the Guristas Worm. It needs overheat most of the time but with cheap faction + cheap implants, it will be a breeze, really ^^

i didn't have the time to test it, but I think a Retribution can kill the Dramiel and some have already stated that Wolf deafeat easily the Sansha

- Hawk vs Burner Daredevil, your Faction Scourge Rocket volleys are 111 with TP+1x web, so it is 111/365, yeah 30% of your DPS get through. The Ishkur is way better.

- Wolf vs Burner Cruor, you are kidding me, Arti Wolf with AB+web can't hold the range at all, you will be neuted at 10km like hell. AC Wolf with 2x ASB and no web.... What works is an 2x ASB + web, AC Jaguar but barely.

- Enyo works vs the Burner Worm but you have to fit so many speed mods/rigs, not funny. It is inferior to the Daredevil because the base speed of the Daredevil is better.

Retribution won't work vs the Burner Dramiel, you need triple web or dual 90% on the Burner Dramiel
- Wolf vs Burner Succubus, you need either AB+1x 90% web to get in range, so no AC Wolf. Arti Wolf with 2x webs work but you have like 200 DPS.

So, still none work really

[Wolf, Burner Cruor]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Prototype Energized Thermic Membrane I

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Thermic Pump II
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I

[Hawk, Burner Daredevil]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Shield Booster I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
Upgraded Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
[empty high slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Burner Cruor
Hawk > Time to kill: 8:05min
Jaguar > Time to kill: 5:03min, 220mm AC+dual ASB+web
Wolf > Time to kill: 3:47min, 220mm AC+SAAR+400Plate+web+cap booster

Wolf is tricky read this
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4953434#post4953434
but use 400Navy Booster instead, because with 400er you will get 4xSAAR cycles through while with 200er only 2 at a time. Some math about heat and reload for cap booster and 400er are better even if you waste 40cap per charge.

Hawk works nicely on the Daredevil Burner, question is triple faction web or dual faction web+TP both setups should use rigor rigs. I'm not sure if the tank is enough with those setups, i used one med slot for a kinetic ampli and it was barely enough.

Heh, that was quick. So long new content excitement, welcome back predictable minmaxing grind.

and the reward?

Heh, that was quick. So long new content excitement, welcome back predictable minmaxing grind.

[Daredevil, Burner Dramiel]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Your problem was thinking that pve could ever be anything else. NPCs aren't people, people are the ones who provide unpredictability.

Hot the bloody hell is it going to work?? Didi you tried and live?? I tried iy and die!

About this fit. Why anti kinetic pump?
I tried this fit, get into 50% Dramiel shield, by that time I was in hull, overheating, and didnt have a chance to activate once the cap injector, i was dead before. Do you use implants or what? Its not going to tank the Dram for real

Worm and DD - dunno. I did manage to get them in DD before burner changes, but no luck since the last SiSi patch (didn't try worm because lol scram). DD now has like 320 DPS and wipes the floor with all possible kinds of DDs I come up with.

And the Angel Dramiel with that (1min20. Also I got AF lvl IV only ^^) :

[Vengeance, Angel burner]
Explosive Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Small Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[empty high slot]
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Lets get real here: What is their DPS BEFORE resists are applied. For every racial damage type you can over-tank an AF to mitigate 90%-95% of the damage. That means they need to be dealing 600 DPS to break the tank of a single SAR.

I applaud the use of the DD to overpower them, but it's hardly know for it's tankiness.

Lets get real here: What is their DPS BEFORE resists are applied. For every racial damage type you can over-tank an AF to mitigate 90%-95% of the damage. That means they need to be dealing 600 DPS to break the tank of a single SAR.

I applaud the use of the DD to overpower them, but it's hardly know for it's tankiness.

Burner racial DPS varies from ~230 to ~280 DPS, the problem is if you tank the AF like hell you won't break the tank of the Burner. You need between ~200 to ~280 racial DPS on your frig to break the Burner tank.

[quote=Jori McKie]
Well here comes the racial imbalance then: Good luck getting that DPS from Minmatar/Amarr. Hybrids are uniqely capable of doing that DPS withtou total death of the fit.

Well here comes the racial imbalance then: Good luck getting that DPS from Minmatar/Amarr. Hybrids are uniqely capable of doing that DPS withtou total death of the fit.

2 Hardeners should reach 85%-95% resist across 2 damage types on the right AF. The wolfs against pure Thermal/EM is ridiculous.

[quote=Maeltstome]
I havent got angel one since changes, but before them I could easily break him with 200dps vengeance.

Nnnah. Actual numbers on NPC tank are much lower. At least I had about 200 effective DPS against blood and about 120 against sansha. Both was enough. Actually kinda overkill for blood, just makes it faster. I think he would even die to 120 applied DPS, only you'd have to have a spare indy with booster charges.

Heh, that was quick. So long new content excitement, welcome back predictable minmaxing grind.

Posted already to Test Server Feedback thread but duplicate here as well.
Some videos with fits if you are interested:

Blood Raider Anomic Site
Serpentis Anomic Site
Sansha Anomic Site
Angel Anomic Site

Perfect skills but no implants/boosters.

want excitement? Go PVP.. go hunt people and get money from their drops.

I find funnyt hat carebears complain missions are not exciting and have no risk or need of skill then they say.. noo no pvp, pvp has risk and you nee too much skill.

Posted already to Test Server Feedback thread but duplicate here as well.
Some videos with fits if you are interested:

Blood Raider Anomic Site
Serpentis Anomic Site
Sansha Anomic Site
Angel Anomic Site

Perfect skills but no implants/boosters.

The Dramiel is a lot tougher now. His tank is pretty insane as is his DPS.
I had over 200 dps vengeance using suggested fits and couldnt break him before I died.

The Dramiel in the video seems to be doing very low damage ... I fought this earlier and was getting hit almost twice as hard with 90% explosive resists.

Did you record this before they buffed this encounter?

Impossible, it's my Vengeance fit with a bit of unecessary bling bling. And I posted after that change

The Dramiel in the video seems to be doing very low damage ... I fought this earlier and was getting hit almost twice as hard with 90% explosive resists.

Did you record this before they buffed this encounter?

Impossible, it's my Vengeance fit wiht a bit of unecessary bling bling, and I posted it after that change

And the Angel Dramiel with that (1min20. Also I got AF lvl IV only ^^) :

[Vengeance, Angel burner]
Explosive Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Small Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[empty high slot]
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

I love all these fits with no prop mod.

I cannot seem to find the answer to this elsewhere, so my apologies if it has been answered or is common knowledge..

Will ANY level 4 security agent offer these missions, or is it just the pirate factions?

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.

Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.

Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.

Any agent.

Not empty quoting.

I do love armchair experts who have patently never even been on grid with just one of these.

Or have not read the dev post that they are NOTHING like PvP.


Slingshot indeed. LOL

The Dramiel in the video seems to be doing very low damage ... I fought this earlier and was getting hit almost twice as hard with 90% explosive resists.

Did you record this before they buffed this encounter?

Protip: A prop mod won't save you from a 90% web, even in PvP.

Said hisec gank monkey...

Protip: A prop mod won't save you from a 90% web, even in PvP.

Added Serpentis Anomic Site - Enyo.
T2 fit only.

I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Are the Daredevil fits from the first post still viable? Not asking if they are the best, its just that I like the DD so much.. Was hoping to find a consensus in the rigs though instead of getting three separately rigged ships.

You should have posted this in the test server thread , it would be helpful for all those people wo could not figure them out and lost a dozen frigs failing

Yep, just be careful vs the Burner Dramiel.

Are the Daredevil fits from the first post still viable? Not asking if they are the best, its just that I like the DD so much.. Was hoping to find a consensus in the rigs though instead of getting three separately rigged ships.

I have run a couple of these on TQ

To solo one of these the risk to reward ratio is non-existent. Its like flying an ibis into null sec to do a 10/10 plex.

Granted I have lost a couple of ships doing these.

The difficulty of soloing these is hard, even when you are using said fits throughout the thread, and I have done a lot of solo pvp in my time.

The rewards for these missions is usually 5m isk bounty + ~1.5m agent fee + 750LP +0.1% chance of faction loot (which would probably only be tier 1 small faction ammo)

so about 7m...

I just about managed to do the worm burner in an enyo t2 fit. (I have max skills for everything used)

Just to get to it I heated mwd and scram to 80%, to kill it I overheated 4 ion blasters and a rocket launcher to 70%. Fortunately didn't have to heat my rep.
I used around 320 untis of void s and 50 navy rockets = 82k isk
10 navy booster 200s = 450k isk
repairs to mods = 700k isk

After all the risk of putting my purpose made ship through I made a total of 5.8m. And that's not very much considering the chances of success for doing this first time without dying are about 50% (With the right ship and fit).

Sure you could fleet up to kill this one frigate but it would just fraction the already small profits, for a smaller chance of losing your ship.

All in all I think that sticking to normal level 4s is more profitable and far less risky.

I have run a couple of these on TQ

To solo one of these the risk to reward ratio is non-existent. Its like flying an ibis into null sec to do a 10/10 plex.

Granted I have lost a couple of ships doing these.

The difficulty of soloing these is hard, even when you are using said fits throughout the thread, and I have done a lot of solo pvp in my time.

The rewards for these missions is usually 5m isk bounty + ~1.5m agent fee + 750LP +0.1% chance of faction loot (which would probably only be tier 1 small faction ammo)

so about 7m...

I just about managed to do the worm burner in an enyo t2 fit. (I have max skills for everything used)

Just to get to it I heated mwd and scram to 80%, to kill it I overheated 4 ion blasters and a rocket launcher to 70%. Fortunately didn't have to heat my rep.
I used around 320 untis of void s and 50 navy rockets = 82k isk
10 navy booster 200s = 450k isk
repairs to mods = 700k isk

After all the risk of putting my purpose made ship through I made a total of 5.8m. And that's not very much considering the chances of success for doing this first time without dying are about 50% (With the right ship and fit).

Sure you could fleet up to kill this one frigate but it would just fraction the already small profits, for a smaller chance of losing your ship.

All in all I think that sticking to normal level 4s is more profitable and far less risky.

Sure you could fleet up to kill this one frigate but it would just fraction the already small profits, for a smaller chance of losing your ship.
All in all I think that sticking to normal level 4s is more profitable and far less risky.

You dont get it, they are not meant to be done by fleets with buddys, but with alts. Prepare for some new cruiser and battleship missions that will be based on similar mechanics in future, eventually completely replacing normal l4s and forcing solo missionrunners to get alts if they want to keep their isk/h.

100% accurate, not worth at all. Avoid it, period.

Unless things have changed in the past couple years, an offline module works as a heat sink as it can take some of the heat damage ticks from the guns, as opposed to an empty high-slot, which neither reduces heat generation, nor vents heat, nor absorbs heat damage.

Nice to see that the daredevil is so versatile, though I'm surprised it isn't something like one of the assault frigates coming out on top, given their high resists.

These missions are the most wasted potential I have seen in EVE and I am so disappointed they turned out the way they did...
They probably should have been scrapped in the test server I would think :(.

Only doable on an extremely limited amount of expensive frigates with very specific fits, high SP and player skill with INSANE risk for literally no rewards. The stats of the burner is so incredibly unrealistic and out of place, it doesn't even make sense.

Was kinda hoping these missions would be the first rewarding thing in PVE to do with smaller ships.



Oh well..

I think all CCP has to do is make them vulnerable to everything a capsuleer is and they'd be fine

if we could neut, TD and other things to them they'd be pretty ok, you could take a sentinel to battle and ruin any gun/cap ship

but thats not currently possible

You can use these fits to kill the gurista, angel, sansha, and blood burners with a daredevil having a single set of rigs:

[Daredevil, sansha burner]
Internal Force Field Array I
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Small Armor Repairer II

1MN Afterburner II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


[Daredevil, blood burner]
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II

1MN Afterburner II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


[Daredevil, angel burner]
Internal Force Field Array I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Small Armor Repairer II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


[Daredevil, gurista burner]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Kinetic Plating II
Small Armor Repairer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


You'll need a caldari or gallente AF to deal with the serpentis burner, however.

Well, I have better than 5.0 Caldari State standings so I can do lvl 4 missions with any corp in Caldari. So I just go to any lvl 4 security agent and decline until I get burners. Once the agent doesn't like me anymore I'll find another. This is not doable on live server.

The DD setup against the Cruor worked well, but be warned, you can nearly get insta popped as well.

21:41:32Combat790 from Blood Raiders Burner - Wrecks
21:41:35Combat860 from Blood Raiders Burner - Wrecks

Some people are saying they test burner missions in SiSi. How? Are they just declining level 4s until a burner shows up? There's a specific way to start them on the test server?

How important are teh navy webs against the Blood and Sansha burners? Would OH meta 4 web suffice?

So yeah, again, what kind of ehp/s and dps do you need to dish out to do these?

So yeah, again, what kind of ehp/s and dps do you need to dish out to do these?

How important are teh navy webs against the Blood and Sansha burners? Would OH meta 4 web suffice?

Sansha is the weakest imo and 200 dps scorch tank + 180 em/th dps is enough, maybe with some overheating. Not sure if cruor will be able to get into conflag range.

Quite important. Sansha burner orbits at 15-16km, so if you mess up and dont land web in the beggining, you will die without faction web.

Not very. The Daredevil is a mini Vindicator, the 90% webs are what make it so nice. Even the kitty Worm just requires you to pulse a MWD to get in range, then you can lock him down. I think the range bonus on the faction webs is overkill (just gives you more margin of error, and keeps you from having to pulse your MWD).

Pretty idiotic of CCP to make burner missions where the best ship for Angel is Amarr ships while Sansha and Blood Raider are easier done with a Minmatar ship...

Standing farm here I come.

Am I the only one dissapointed in these? I was hoping for dynamic fights, not EFTwarrioring.

EH I was hoping for a bit of both. Then I learned that they just web at ranges no player can do without overheat or faction webs and immediately became disappointed. I can't overheat for the 1-2 minutes straight needed for this (don't think anyone can) and using a Daredevil (to slow them down so much that your webbed self can catch up and not overheat as long) seems like a ****** alternative to someone with ****-poor gunnery skills. That, or 90 million isk for 2 faction webs. Joy.

[Daredevil, Burner Dramiel pimped]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Core B-Type Armor Explosive Hardener

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II

[Daredevil, Burner Worm pimped]
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Core B-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Burner Succubus
[Daredevil, Burner Succubus Pimped]
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Core B-Type Armor EM Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Anti-Thermic Pump II

I find funnyt hat carebears complain missions are not exciting and have no risk or need of skill then they say.. noo no pvp, pvp has risk and you nee too much skill.

Created Burner NPCs characteristics spreadsheet. Hope it can help you in theorycrafting :)

300-400 million isk equiped ships for missions that pay out roughly 8 million isk.
Burner missions aren't worth it.

300-400 million isk equiped ships for missions that pay out roughly 8 million isk.
Burner missions aren't worth it.

Are you joking? ~150mil more than enough for all ships for every burner.

300-400 million isk equiped ships for missions that pay out roughly 8 million isk.
Burner missions aren't worth it.

It was stated that these frigs are the equivalent as officer fit with max boost.

...
My first fault was to not fit enough tank. Just a Small Armor Repairer isn't enough if you want to survive. Even with really high resists you will die over time. I have "Assault Frigates" at V but that did not help me. I have to mention that I am a "gunnery" guy and have not a single missile implant. If you have missile implants, the job is a little bit easier.

That's why i had to switch to something more expensive and used Centii A-Type SAR (70mil) which almost doubled my tank. I used anti-explosive rig and anti-EM membrane. I added "Angel Burner" profile in EFT with the damage stats provided from the spreadsheet (32.3 / 0 / 11.3 / 56.4). This resulted in 177 specific tank.
...

Actually you do not need A-Type or something expensive. From my practice Vengeance forever tanks Angel Burner without any movement or overheating just with the following:
Small Armor Repairer II
Energized EM Membrane II + Small Anti-EM Pump I (or any 2 of them that give > 82.2 EM resist).
Your resists must be equal or higher then 82.2 EM, 70 KI, 84 EX. You should be able to tank >114 DPS and it is enough. Verified with about 1 hour tanking.

[quote=Tes Tosteron]
...
My first fault was to not fit enough tank.

Perfect skills of course but not implants/boosters.

Actually Angel Burner is the easiest of all but generates more LP and this is very strange.

... I read through this topic and a lot of guys just use SAR II and any combination of EM/EXP or double EM resist improvement. So I decided to do it the same way. And I have Assault Frig and all Armor skills @ V. But this just did not work for me. Sitting still or moving with webbed ~140 m/s. He popped me within 30-45 seconds. The SAR II repair amount was not sufficient (127 specific tank).
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Just for you 30 minutes of Angel Burner Cheap Tanking. I doubt NPC characteristics vary in some way. I cannot imagine how it popped you withing 30-45 seconds.

Good for you that you have no clue at all.
Dramiel Burner mission right now pays 14k LP in a 0.5 system, all other roughly 9k LP lets say for simplicity 10k LP per mission. Add 9m bounty and payout subtract 1m repair costs. Now lets say you need at average 5min per misison from docking to docking. Some magic math with 1LP = 2k ISK, tada 336m every 12x burner missions. If you could do only Burner mission it would break EVE.
Any lasts words about posting stuff without having a clue.

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In the 0.5 system I'm in the Burner missions have never gone above 9k LP max and I even got max skills in social.

Went up against the cruor and after a few failed attempts I successfully killed it with this 50m Wolf fit.

[Wolf, CruorKiller]
Small Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane
Centii A-Type EM Plating
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Anti-Thermic Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Does NOS even give you any cap when used on a burner rat?

[Unified Worm, Burner Enyo]
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Pith A-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith B-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile

Small Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Small Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Warrior II x2
Warrior II x3

[Unified Worm, Burner Jaguar ]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Pith A-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Precision Light Missile

Small Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Small Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Acolyte II x2
Hornet II x3

[Unified Daredevil, Burner Hawk]
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core B-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

[Unified Daredevil, Burner Vengeance]
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Core B-Type Armor EM Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty high slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

[Enyo, Burner Enyo]
Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core B-Type Armor Thermic Hardener

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Small 'Siesta' Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Mjolnir Rocket
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II

Warrior II x1

[Retribution, Burner Jaguar]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core B-Type Armor Explosive Hardener

Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II

[Retribution, Burner Hawk]
Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Core B-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener

Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II

[Unified Worm, Burner Vengeance]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile

Small Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Small Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Hornet II x2
Hobgoblin II x3

[Harpy, Burner Kite]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
[empty med slot]

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator II

[Retribution, Burner Kite]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

1MN Afterburner II
[empty med slot]

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Energy Locus Coordinator II
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II

[Retribution, Burner Kite]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

1MN Afterburner II
[empty med slot]

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Energy Locus Coordinator II
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II

[Harpy, Burner Kite]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
[empty med slot]

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator II

New Team Burner, general advise and stats:
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Nice work! Created some how to defeat Burner Teams videos. Fits are restricted to T2/meta modules except rare cases like this one :) And I still do not like 40km npcs spawn range - 55 seconds required to fly to burner and 50 seconds to kill him.

By the way Garmur can kill all burners in universal fit with light missles - not so fast, with rockets - quite fast but requires much much much more control.

Yep, i tested a MWD LML Garmur and stopped after what 9mins or so, the Logi Burner was slowly getting down but it was a pain in the ass. I never tested an AB Rocket Garmur, it should work like the other kiting setups but 230m alone for the hull and one mistake it is gone....

Just uploaded all 4 burner kill videos using my universal Garmur fit. Take a look.

Time from activating gate to burner death:
Enyo - 3:15
Jaguar - 2:45
Vengeance - 4:05
Hawk - 2:28

It is very simple to use and absolutely safe (but a little bit expensive). I got disconnected sometimes during the mission and because of orbit in 35-40km it was enough time for ship to warp out :)
Overloading and implants/CN launchers are not required I used them just to buy a couple of seconds.

You should have mentioned that you really need perfect skills for the Garmur. You need not overheated 180 DPS to kill the Burner in an acceptable timeframe. Anything below not overheated 150 DPS won't kill the Burner Logi under 10mins. Could you please add your not overheated and the overheated DPS inclusive the implants.
I tried to reproduce your numbers and wasn't able to do so although this char has perfect missile skills but no imps. I was always about 30sec slower.