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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10959	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:13:28 - [1] - Quote Hello everybody- this is the Jovian Archivist, here with a very important bit of information to share with you! now.eveonline.com has had a lot of interesting things posted to it these last few days- the first was a picture of what appeared to be a sleeper vessel of an unknown designation. The second, posted yesterday, contains an enormous cloaked structure and a ship in the distance. The one from today, however, has made me realize that something enormous is underway. The picture itself, while it does reveal what the first picture was, does not provide much information. The quote below it, however, is a very important thing to know: Quote: GÇÿAll the mistakes youGÇÖre making, weGÇÖve already made. All the lessons youGÇÖre learning, weGÇÖve already learned. Perhaps the most significant of these lessons is that the Sleepers do in fact pose a threat, and that threat is far greater than we had presumed.GÇÖ - Empress Jamyl Sarum On the surface, not much seems to be going on here other than Jamyl Sarum telling her empire that the Sleepers are dangerous (you don't say?). However, there's something going on in a much deeper sense. If any of you haven't read Templar One yet and don't want it spoiled, stop here. So Empress Jamyl Sarum, as we know, is a capsuleer. She was supposed to have died following the succession trials, but returned, as she had gone against the law of the Emperor family not cloning themselves. However, something happened during the cloning process: an entity took control of the facility and modified her. This entity is known as the 'Other'. The 'Other' is an entity born completely within the confines of the Sleeper VR world. It wishes to destroy the Sleepers and change New Eden into its own vision. Now, we don't know what that "twisted vision" (as Grious calls it) is, but it does not bode well for humanity. The 'Other' has control over Jamyl. It can 'posess' her and make her say whatever it wants, along with controlling her body and modifying her memory. It is now instructing the Empire to seek out and destroy the Sleepers appearing. Do the Sleepers ever attack us? No, not unless we approach their home. For the most part, they have wanted to be left alone. However, they are now making their way back into New Eden, where they originally departed from. They are well aware of the threat the 'Other' poses to their world, and will doubtlessly be trying to eliminate it. the 'Other' is obviously opposed to this, and though it lives through many more entities than Jamyl, it is not safe from the Sleepers. It wants 'us' to destroy the Sleepers to protect itself. Now, along with this, we have seen a number of communiques from Hilen Tukoss recently ( [1] [2] [3] ). The first two were cryptic and filled with hexadecimal code. They requested for the body parts of Misu Baniya, which were distributed in 2004, to be donated to Site One, the Arek'Jaalan research facility in Eram. However, the third message is very different. It is a broken communication from Tukoss, seemingly telling us that he is being held by someone or something, and that Site One has been compromised. The first time I read this, I immediately thought that either the Sleepers were acting maliciously in some way, or that the 'Other' is scheming something using the parts. But with today's message, I have realized that something much, much bigger may be happening. Some more background: the Sleepers are suspected to have created the Jovian Disease to covertly force the entirely of the Jovians to join them in their world. They left after the Jove pursued them, and escaped into Anoikis. But the thing is, the Jovians fear the 'Other' as much as the Sleepers do. It is the single biggest threat to ever emerge in New Eden, and as it is now, the Sleepers and Jovians have a common enemy. If it truly is the Sleepers who are collecting the Ambassador's body parts, then they are intending to use them for something. The only thing I have come up with is that they may intend to reverse the Disease and work alongside their brothers to oppose the 'Other'. If this is at all true, than it means three things: One: We cannot trust the Empires in this matter. Two: The Sleepers are not the enemy. Three: We are about to see something beyond the scope of anything we have experienced in New Eden before. I just may be completely wrong about this entire situation- but if I'm right about even one thing, than this needs to be heard. Thank you all for listening. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 7238	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:28:22 - [2] - Quote Something.. something... role playing forum area --> Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10960	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:35:10 - [3] - Quote Not necessarily just RP- this could have implications much bigger than lore A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

ISD LackOfFaith ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1846	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:37:50 - [4] - Quote I'm... confused. What's going on? ISD LackOfFaith Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.

Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5230	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:40:42 - [5] - Quote Sooo..... How does Sansha fit into all of this? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3481	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:43:33 - [6] - Quote ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Something something wormholes, something something sleepers come to destroy everything, something something go to wormhole space. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 17829	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:45:04 - [7] - Quote If you look into the background the the second image, you can clearly see the swirls in the nebulae create both a strip of Bacon.. and the word PLEX written in cursive. This has one of 2 implications.. 1. This confirms Half Life 3. 2. PLEX4BACON is a go. Either way.. Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: We are about to see something beyond the scope of anything we have experienced in New Eden before. Agreed. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10967	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:46:25 - [8] - Quote ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Sleepers are coming to K-space. The 'Other' wants to use us to protect itself. The Sleepers are collecting the parts of a Jovian. The Jovians and the Sleepers now have a common enemy. The Sleepers are suspected of creating the Jovian Disease, and may now be about to reverse it for the purpose of stopping the 'Other' Or at least that's what I've gotten from these happenings- something big is happening, and I'm going to keep myself updated on it. The panel at EVE Down Under on saturday will likely reveal even more, by the way. I could be wrong about this, but a theory is always worth sharing And if thisis what's happening, than I'm siding with the Sleepers and the Jovians. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 192	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:47:08 - [9] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Sooo..... How does Sansha fit into all of this? DUDE where doesn't Sansha fit into this?????
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5231	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:50:49 - [10] - Quote Harrison Tato wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Sooo..... How does Sansha fit into all of this? DUDE where doesn't Sansha fit into this????? Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics

Jvpiter Jovelike 1710	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:51:29 - [11] - Quote Preach it, my Jove brother. ~secret Jovian fist bump~ Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
ISD LackOfFaith ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1847	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:53:46 - [12] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Something something wormholes, something something sleepers come to destroy everything, something something go to wormhole space. Got it. ISD LackOfFaith Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.
Wendrika Hydreiga Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 113	Posted - 2014.11.20 22:57:04 - [13] - Quote Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10967	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:01:22 - [14] - Quote Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 192	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:03:05 - [15] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Harrison Tato wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Sooo..... How does Sansha fit into all of this? DUDE where doesn't Sansha fit into this????? Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them. Awesome. I just said what I did with no idea what I was talking about :)
PotatoOverdose Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS. 2542	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:07:53 - [16] - Quote I smell bacon.
Jvpiter Jovelike 1714	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:08:54 - [17] - Quote Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. We are friendly and family oriented. There is no need to be afraid. Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
Eldwinn SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel 91	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:10:01 - [18] - Quote Saw wall of text and role playing. Stopped reading.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10967	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:13:10 - [19] - Quote Eldwinn wrote: Saw wall of text and role playing. Stopped reading. Not RP, but okay. You're missing out A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2719	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:14:15 - [20] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Something.. something... role playing forum area --> No man, this is real! We're doomed I tell you doomed!! In other words, no, this thread will not get moved to the Intergalactic Summit. Although it has role play information in it, it is also out of character. So it would get locked there for breaking that specific sub-forum rules. And this thread is way to interesting to lock.... ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2204	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:16:57 - [21] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians What?! Jovians are coming back?! That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Wendrika Hydreiga Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 114	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:19:22 - [22] - Quote Glad we have that part straight! I won't abide for non-egginess on Jove! Also, if anything, this is a pure EVE Lore discussion. His post is not even in-character. EVE Lore is great, but a lot of work goes into it to make it a plausible science fiction. Plus there's how Jove are EVEs mysterious aliens, with egg-shaped heads.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10969	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:22:27 - [23] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians What?! Jovians are coming back?! The picture is from EVE: Source- also, they showed the same two Jovians in motion at the very end of the CCP Presents! keynote in 2012 I, for one, am starting to get very hopeful about the the fifth point of the star raising its head A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 48	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:32:09 - [24] - Quote As long as we're catching the hype train, the pics have some interesting tells: The picture of the new ships have some interesting articles on them. This picture shows what appears to be some sort of logistics vessel leaving a sleeper site. It's a three quarter view pic, which shows two ships in tandem. Notice the four spheres on each side of the ships running parallel for a total of four spheres. You can see what appear to be either parallel lines, or some kind of a reflection in these, which are all similar. Now, take a look at this picture: There is a fifth sphere on top of the ship in this angle. Notice there the four outer spheres seem to have a dull silver color to them, while the sphere on top appears to be void of the silver hue. Also the fifth sphere is reflecting the nebulae "slightly" differently. The spheres on the side of the ship appear to have a pyramid triangle shape reflected in them, or possible its depicting something inside the spheres, while the fifth sphere on top is devoid of this pyramid/triangle ship. I wonder if this a Wormhole Generation Ship? Of course this is rampant speculation, but looking at the pictures, and jumping the hype train is fun. Also +1 for bacon. Rad...
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10973	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:38:49 - [25] - Quote Radax Glenn wrote: As long as we're catching the hype train, the pics have some interesting tells: The picture of the new ships have some interesting articles on them. This picture shows what appears to be some sort of logistics vessel leaving a sleeper site. It's a three quarter view pic, which shows two ships in tandem. Notice the four spheres on each side of the ships running parallel for a total of four spheres. You can see what appear to be either parallel lines, or some kind of a reflection in these, which are all similar. Now, take a look at this picture: There is a fifth sphere on top of the ship in this angle. Notice there the four outer spheres seem to have a dull silver color to them, while the sphere on top appears to be void of the silver hue. Also the fifth sphere is reflecting the nebulae "slightly" differently. The spheres on the side of the ship appear to have a pyramid triangle shape reflected in them, or possible its depicting something inside the spheres, while the fifth sphere on top is devoid of this pyramid/triangle ship. I wonder if this a Wormhole Generation Ship? Of course this is rampant speculation, but looking at the pictures, and jumping the hype train is fun. Also +1 for bacon. Rad... I was actually beginning to suspect the same thing! There's a hatch on the top of the ship, where the fifth sphere is- also, they seem to have some sort of beacon on them. Knowing that the Sleepers opened the wormholes themselves to leave the New Eden cluster, I'm beginning to suspect that these ships are using the same technology- and that we're going to witness the scope of what the Architects are capable of very soon A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Hal Morsh Exodus Mining Corp 194	Posted - 2014.11.20 23:40:30 - [26] - Quote Does this mean the "other" is essentially agent smith? Radax Glenn wrote: Text wall about sleeper ships To me those ships look like highly advanced versions of those exploration ships they used when they traveled the eve gate. Ya know, the ones we hack in relic sites? CCP - Outpost code is scary. CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
Arla Sarain 125	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:13:09 - [27] - Quote So after how many sleeper sites does the can with the 10 deadspace items spawn?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 217	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:22:26 - [28] - Quote Bacon and eggs? In space? I. Am. There.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 10987	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:25:33 - [29] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Bacon and eggs? In space? I. Am. There. Fly a little closer to a star in your pod and you'll be bacon- inside of an egg A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Wendrika Hydreiga Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 116	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:34:19 - [30] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Fly a little closer to a star in your pod and you'll be bacon- inside of an egg Truly an eggcellent idea! ... Alright I'll behave... No more egg jokes. Eggcept yes, because we need more egg jokes in a game about eggs inside ships! That's the yolk of it.

Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 295	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:35:12 - [31] - Quote It was a well thought out post and GD, as usual, has turned it into drivel yet again. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:52:17 - [32] - Quote One word man...ERLIANSS!! The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
Gogela The Conference Elite CODE. 3277	Posted - 2014.11.21 00:56:13 - [33] - Quote Wow. This is a little out there... even for GD. wtf did I just read?
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 946	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:03:18 - [34] - Quote This goes back to the discussion of what happened when the SOE ships got released Well, guess what, I was right Sleepers be invading K space! Grab the blasters and fly me toward them! I want me melted nanoribbons! All hail the other, may its nebulous plan succeed! In other news, this is what was meant by the SOE ship names and how they were showing the way, what with the tale involving invasions of other things and mass death Oh and the last sorrowful step home by the little brother, he is not welcome The other is a little brother to Sarym, he has come home to K space, he is not welcome Woe befalls us for soon there shall be live events, and they will not be in your time zone! Lament and wail ye capsuleers! Lament!
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 2059	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:05:24 - [35] - Quote Gogela wrote: Wow. This is a little out there... even for GD. wtf did I just read? A pretty good post, tbh. A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 2061	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:24:44 - [36] - Quote And, actually, I'm wondering how OP imagines their OP fits in with this article. I'm seeing the web take shape. A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11024	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:31:11 - [37] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: And, actually, I'm wondering how OP imagines their OP fits in with this article. I'm seeing the web take shape. As I see it: The 'Other' is manipulating things, along with working in-line with the desires of many of the leaders of the empire factions, to further its own insertions. The Sleepers and, perhaps, the Jovians are resisting and trying to end the 'Other'. There is no proof for any of this, bus as time goes on, some things are seeming more and more plausible. What I'm most curious about, though, is what the true goals of the 'Other' are- we are told that it wants to reshape the world in its own "twisted image", but we have no idea what that implies. Also, I went back to the Prophecies of Macaper- I think it's quite eerie how well some of these things line up with the events in EVE, and it amazes me to imagine how much of this has actually been planned out from the very beginning: GÇ£the little brother makes the final sorrowful steps home; he is not welcomeGÇ¥ At least one possibility could be the Sleepers making their return to New Eden, only to be attacked by the Other and those it has manipulated. GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes fourGÇ¥ The only thing that comes to mind is the uniting of capsuleers in the wake of CONCORD dissolving, somehow. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Hal Morsh Exodus Mining Corp 194	Posted - 2014.11.21 01:50:20 - [38] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: And, actually, I'm wondering how OP imagines their OP fits in with this article. I'm seeing the web take shape. Maybe CCP is building the game around a story. I mean that right there just shows how deep the rabbit hole goes. I mean if you think about it that's a pretty sick feature. We are people playing a videogame, and behind all the game features a story is being written as if the players were powerful people being unknowingly directed towards someone else's goal. CCP - Outpost code is scary. CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
DaReaper Net 7 1340	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:29:16 - [39] - Quote This can also playing into Valk and Legion. Someone posted on reddit that one of the stations is a biochemical one, like dealing with implants. We know that the Valk are basicly kidnapped by the Gruistias to do their bidding. So maybe new sleeper tech is what will allow us to be valk and legionnaires? idk i'm just rambling now lol OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11064	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:51:24 - [40] - Quote Hal Morsh wrote: Karl Hobb wrote: And, actually, I'm wondering how OP imagines their OP fits in with this article. I'm seeing the web take shape. Maybe CCP is building the game around a story. I mean that right there just shows how deep the rabbit hole goes. I mean if you think about it that's a pretty sick feature. We are people playing a videogame, and behind all the game features a story is being written as if the players were powerful people being unknowingly directed towards someone else's goal. No s*** It's just fun to see something 10 years in the making start to pick up. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 949	Posted - 2014.11.21 02:53:00 - [41] - Quote DaReaper wrote: This can also playing into Valk and Legion. Someone posted on reddit that one of the stations is a biochemical one, like dealing with implants. We know that the Valk are basicly kidnapped by the Gruistias to do their bidding. So maybe new sleeper tech is what will allow us to be valk and legionnaires? idk i'm just rambling now lol Capsuleers cant be Legion or Valk as written But Legion and Valk can be capsuleer The nexus though is the bodiless state (evegate, website stuff) THat is what will have us all merge as one And when it does, there shall be an ushering in the Styx as it flows away, and the land rises up The undying throngs and their thralls shall come forth and wage war on the living THey will not be stopped, they will not be hindered, they will not also not pay the Sov bill
Jvpiter Jovelike 1749	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:07:31 - [42] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Now, along with this, we have seen a number of communiques from Hilen Tukoss recently ( [1][2][3] ). The first two were cryptic and filled with hexadecimal code. They requested for the body parts of Misu Baniya, which were distributed in 2004, to be donated to Site One, the Arek'Jaalan research facility in Eram. However, the third message is very different. It is a broken communication from Tukoss, seemingly telling us that he is being held by someone or something, and that Site One has been compromised. The first time I read this, I immediately thought that either the Sleepers were acting maliciously in some way, or that the 'Other' is scheming something using the parts. But with today's message, I have realized that something much, much bigger may be happening. As an aside, this Hilen Tukoss is a CCP account that has been creating content on the lore front. At first I believed it was just a player, but it's interesting to see CCP actively drive a story that connects back to upcoming expansions. Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11075	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:19:18 - [43] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Now, along with this, we have seen a number of communiques from Hilen Tukoss recently ( [1][2][3] ). The first two were cryptic and filled with hexadecimal code. They requested for the body parts of Misu Baniya, which were distributed in 2004, to be donated to Site One, the Arek'Jaalan research facility in Eram. However, the third message is very different. It is a broken communication from Tukoss, seemingly telling us that he is being held by someone or something, and that Site One has been compromised. The first time I read this, I immediately thought that either the Sleepers were acting maliciously in some way, or that the 'Other' is scheming something using the parts. But with today's message, I have realized that something much, much bigger may be happening. As an aside, this Hilen Tukoss is a CCP account that has been creating content on the lore front. At first I believed it was just a player, but it's interesting to see CCP actively drive a story that connects back to upcoming expansions. Yes, he was heavily involved with all of the WH and Arek'Jaalan goings-on a few years ago- once he returned, I knew something was up- and then "he" started asking for Baniya's parts- I actually donated an Epidermis Sliver. And now, with what seems to be happening now, I'm glad to give to the Sleepers. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anslo Scope Works 22301	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:26:47 - [44] - Quote After 7 years in eve all I can say is this... Lock and load, ladies and gentlemen. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 949	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:32:43 - [45] - Quote Anslo wrote: After 7 years in eve all I can say is this... Lock and load, ladies and gentlemen. War, what is it good for? My profits! Haha I am a space arms dealer and business is booming! Now if only Falcon had listened when we were trying to do stuff with the shattered villiard wheels, this corp wouldnt have been wasted Darn you A9, you had to not pull through with that!
Anslo Scope Works 22302	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:37:05 - [46] - Quote Meh. Forget the wheels. The question is this though. Why would the 'others' works be bad? The sleepers made a disease. The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes. So, I gotta ask... Why help the Sleepers and Jove? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11077	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:48:47 - [47] - Quote Anslo wrote: Meh. Forget the wheels. The question is this though. Why would the 'others' works be bad? The sleepers made a disease. The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes. So, I gotta ask... Why help the Sleepers and Jove? It's true, we have no idea what the 'Other''s aims are- but at the same time, we know it wants to take humanity for itself. So we have no enidence for why we should choose either side- but I'd rather side with the last vestiges of original humanity than an AI like this one But if I learn anything, I will always take it into consideration. Also, forget shattered wheels- what do I do with my Villard Wheels? They're huge! A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anslo Scope Works 22302	Posted - 2014.11.21 03:50:46 - [48] - Quote Here's a better solution. As a ~great~ FC once said, "just kill them breh." Kill ALL of them. Both sides. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jvpiter Jovelike 1760	Posted - 2014.11.21 04:40:07 - [49] - Quote Anslo wrote: The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes. That may be so, but the technological advancement made by the Jove are second to none, to this day. If the Jovian Disease was a Sleeper-made artificial ceiling to this advancement, then mankind can seek to benefit from the Disease being cured. If anything, the Empires are stunting the growth of humanity with religion, politics, and slavery. Imagine what Capsuleers could accomplish if they were truly one with technology, instead of the inept and experimental immortality which has such great limitations in space, consciousness, and time. Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato. A picture of me and my anonymous date in CQ with my Jove ship. Orig. image by Cake.
Cyndrogen Angels Of Life 634	Posted - 2014.11.21 06:00:09 - [50] - Quote Haven't you heard? The "Harvest" is coming soon... to cleanse the galaxy. End of the the year cleaning for all of New Eden. Jita will burn, so Thera can take it's place. Farewell Jita.

Jove Eden Manifest Chambers Manifest Destiny. 16	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:20:19 - [51] - Quote God created man Jove created me nice post op
Falken Falcon Divine Reform The Explicit Alliance 25177	Posted - 2014.11.21 07:41:23 - [52] - Quote Hmm.. Awesome Warning: FF will not be held liable for any damages incurred during the process of 'Doing the Falcon', including, but not limited to, insomnia, finger cramps, rheumatoid arthritis or obsessive-compulsive liking disorder.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 503	Posted - 2014.11.21 08:19:15 - [53] - Quote I really really like this stuff. Someone give me more free time so I can catch-up with that whole storyline the Code ALWAYS wins
Ryder 'ook Die..Brut 90	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:01:19 - [54] - Quote Kill them all and let their gods sort them out! Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries 333	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:42:09 - [55] - Quote Anslo wrote: The Jove meddled in the development of humanity for a whole lot of selfish purposes. The Jove are humanity. The Khanid Kings and the Sleepers... I'm not so sure any more.
Lister Dax Intergalactic Trade and Harm 16	Posted - 2014.11.21 09:49:40 - [56] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The second, posted yesterday, contains an enormous cloaked structure and a ship in the distance. Well, sleeper cloaking tech is rubbish then!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5233	Posted - 2014.11.21 11:06:09 - [57] - Quote Alright, another question: What are the rogue drones about? Are they another aspect of the Other, a creation of the Jove/Sleepers to recreate the birthing of the Other in order to understand it or actually a new emergent infomorph like the Other? Maybe the Prophecy of Macaper GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes fourGÇ¥ means the Rogue Drones unite into a emergent hive infomorph (many become one) and the number of non-empire parties working behind the scenes is revealed to be not just one, the Jove, but four, the Jove, the Sleepers, the Other and the Drones. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
stoicfaux 5430	Posted - 2014.11.21 12:53:55 - [58] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them. Nope. Sansha's incursions are a training program. Seriously, if you had the ability to create wormholes into normal space and had a seemingly unlimited supply of ships, why would you continually lose? Why is no ground being taken and held? Why aren't worlds and stations being burned? Why are invasions designed to invite defeat in detail? The incursions are thus a training program (i.e. war games for immortals) to get the capsuleers ready for the real fight to come. WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 619	Posted - 2014.11.21 13:09:03 - [59] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Well, if I may speculate, I'd say the Jove resurrected Sansha from old DNA and a cerebral scan they keep in backup (as with every capsuleer, after all it's our brains they study in hopes to find out what broke theirs) and promoted his forces with bits of their technology to create a force they can use against whoever exposes themselves as a threat towards them. Nope. Sansha's incursions are a training program. Seriously, if you had the ability to create wormholes into normal space and had a seemingly unlimited supply of ships, why would you continually lose? Why is no ground being taken and held? Why aren't worlds and stations being burned? Why are invasions designed to invite defeat in detail? The incursions are thus a training program (i.e. war games for immortals) to get the capsuleers ready for the real fight to come. Maybe also reconnaisance in force, check what we're up to and how we're coping. OTOH why would they care about holding planets in k-space prior to a serious invasion attempt?
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 6538	Posted - 2014.11.21 14:13:26 - [60] - Quote I think that's Talocan thing, this Other. Talocans made it to destroy Sleepers. Recon makes them stronger

Jean Luc Lemmont Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 303	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:14:38 - [61] - Quote Anslo wrote: Here's a better solution. As a ~great~ FC once said, "just kill them breh." Kill ALL of them. Both sides. Kill them all. Let God sort them out. A bitter vet trying to start anew.

CCP Falcon 9362	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:18:18 - [62] - Quote ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? CCP Falcon \|\| Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Anslo Scope Works 22307	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:25:33 - [63] - Quote Thanks Falcon.... [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Arronicus Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1275	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:33:03 - [64] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: If this is at all true, than it means three things: One: We cannot trust the Empires in this matter. . TL:DR version for anyone mildly curious, but not interested enough to read the post: Amarrian Empress cloned herself and is possessed by some sentient AI. Sentient AI is controlling her to get capsuleers to blow up sleepers. Sleepers are not the bad guy. Amarr Empire can't be trusted. Also, some RP posts from some minmatar player. Engage tinfoil hat: Giant invisible station and ship in picture of space released by CCP Sentient AI entity is controlling the empires to make us battle the sleepers The humans are evil 6/10. Mildly amusing.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 909	Posted - 2014.11.21 16:44:03 - [65] - Quote So I guess that's what the fifth Station in Thera will be. ... WHOOPS... I kid Yaay!!!!
Erin Crawford 348	Posted - 2014.11.21 17:07:32 - [66] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Hello everybody- this is the Jovian Archivist, here with a very important bit of information to share with you... ...awesome post! Thanks for this awesome post and for putting it in GD too! Had a really busy week and little time to keep up with all that's been going on; so having this with additional links to posts/pictures is a great source of info.
Serene Repose 1642	Posted - 2014.11.21 17:29:43 - [67] - Quote +2 for confusing two ISDs. Falcon...did you HAVE to? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2211	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:14:22 - [68] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: +2 for confusing two ISDs. Falcon...did you HAVE to? No more than he just HAD to get his EVE Vegas group on the one observation wheel gondola that DIDN'T have a bar in it :p That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1088	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:14:45 - [69] - Quote Hm, The quote from that screenshot comes from a Dust Chronicle called : 514 Where, in a clandestine meeting, Empress Jamyl urges the other empires to find a way to stop capsuleers continuing their genocide against Sleepers, because the sites, the technology and everything we find in the wormholes are the sleeper minds & worlds that we tear apart. Failure to stop the capsuleers would awaken a threat & power far beyond ours... Looks like Jamyl's words have become prophetic with the Sleepers returning to our space. Aurora Arcology welcomes over 24.000 immigrants! Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapon blueprints!
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 113	Posted - 2014.11.21 18:52:55 - [70] - Quote now.eveonline.com It is my hope that I was able to broadcast today. Even if it is too late for me, at least it may act as a warning to those still loyal to the cause, although I am not sure how much good that will do at this point. I cannot determine the nature of what lies ahead, but I know that they are fearful and preparing; preparing to explore, preparing for war. YC116-11-12

Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 55	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:04:18 - [71] - Quote As long as we're still riding the hype train: As I've read some of the other comments, and I re-read a couple portions of Templar One; I'm beginning to speculate that the Sleepers as a player race, would fit perfectly into the scheme of the "permadeath", "perma-suspect" pilots some we're discussing at EVE Vegas. It would tie in greatly to the lore, as well as allowing these "alleged" free to play accounts a starting point in Thera. All wild speculation of course, but it does fit elegantly. Makes me hungry for more....
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1380	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:11:44 - [72] - Quote GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes four" The races and factions of man unite against a threat to their very survival? And the sleepers are not the simple automatons we have been fighting and just a dead and lost source of Implants and technology, They are four factions, and each group are preparing individual actions against their common adversary (us), whilst fighting for power and control within themselves too? Others, sleepers, talocan and ???? Interesting times indeed Possibly There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1088	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:15:00 - [73] - Quote Anonymous Forumposter wrote: Omnious broadcast Only one thing missing to make it really blow up: the identity of whoever broadcasted it, I suspect Hilen Tukoss, but not sure. And whom he talks about, possibly Sleepers, maybe Sisters? (Sanctuary, a Sister Division hates our guts & seems to be willing to separate from the Sisters in order to fight Capsuleers if they have to+ Thera has Sister stations) Aurora Arcology welcomes over 24.000 immigrants! Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapon blueprints!
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2211	Posted - 2014.11.21 19:42:24 - [74] - Quote Radax Glenn wrote: As long as we're still riding the hype train: As I've read some of the other comments, and I re-read a couple portions of Templar One; I'm beginning to speculate that the Sleepers as a player race, would fit perfectly into the scheme of the "permadeath", "perma-suspect" pilots some we're discussing at EVE Vegas. It would tie in greatly to the lore, as well as allowing these "alleged" free to play accounts a starting point in Thera. All wild speculation of course, but it does fit elegantly. Makes me hungry for more.... ^ someone have Rise read this post. Freaking brilliant! That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
DaReaper Net 7 1343	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:32:35 - [75] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes four" The races and factions of man unite against a threat to their very survival? And the sleepers are not the simple automatons we have been fighting and not just a dead source of Implants and technology, They are four powerful factions, and each group are preparing individual actions against their common adversary (us), whilst fighting for power and control within themselves too? Others, sleepers, talocan and ???? Interesting times indeed Possibly This could also be the joining of the new eden universe. But as I am sure this prophecy came out before ccp thought of valk and legion, that that is most likely, the 4 empires combining to a single force.. vs... i'm going to guess us. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 755	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:35:25 - [76] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] I thought it was http://i.imgur.com/MoSPi7z.jpg ? I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me! In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod - Mara Rinn
Amber Kurvora 198	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:51:57 - [77] - Quote I'm joining the slightly cynical train. As much as a galaxy changing event would be nice, we've been here before the the incursions. It'll add a new game play element to the galaxy, but that'll be it. You know what I'd like to see? Systems burn and brought to waste. Holding actions by empire fleets to halt a big bad that is winning, and winning hard, till something as dramatic move along the lines of Admiral Yakia Tovil-Toba crashing his Chimera into Gallente Prime. Till the face of New Eden is irrevocably scarred and changed for the rest of the game. It's not going to happen, I appreciate that, but occasionally the epic is missing outside of the player driven side of things.
Hra Neuvosto FinFleet Northern Coalition. 340	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:52:18 - [78] - Quote Did Jovians all the plexes?
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2212	Posted - 2014.11.21 20:54:34 - [79] - Quote After seeing what post-Carbon Jovians look like, I am filled with the desire to become one. Even if I don't get the ships. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11195	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:00:26 - [80] - Quote Radax Glenn wrote: As long as we're still riding the hype train: As I've read some of the other comments, and I re-read a couple portions of Templar One; I'm beginning to speculate that the Sleepers as a player race, would fit perfectly into the scheme of the "permadeath", "perma-suspect" pilots some we're discussing at EVE Vegas. It would tie in greatly to the lore, as well as allowing these "alleged" free to play accounts a starting point in Thera. All wild speculation of course, but it does fit elegantly. Makes me hungry for more.... That would actually be perfect- i love that idea! Some people were suggesting having the Jovians become the 'burner' clone race, but the sleepers make sense- they already have the knowledge of ships and can learn things instantaneous within their world through time dilation. They could be planning and doing this to come into k-space and end the threat of the Other- I'm really into this idea A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11195	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:02:03 - [81] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] You're awesome, Falcon A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5690	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:03:59 - [82] - Quote Don't knock the lore/Storyline and RP. Without it, this game would be "Muh Stats Online (with spreadsheets decorated by space ships)" and long forgotten. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 2068	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:10:28 - [83] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Don't knock the lore/Storyline and RP. Without it, this game would be "Muh Stats Online (with spreadsheets decorated by space ships)" and long forgotten. ~science fiction~ A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Carmen Electra The Scope Gallente Federation 13401	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:22:42 - [84] - Quote I read PLEX4BACON in this thread. +1 for PLEX4BACON Bacon makes us stronger
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 92954	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:28:11 - [85] - Quote Carmen Electra wrote: I read PLEX4BACON in this thread. +1 for PLEX4BACON I need PLEX4CAKE Also looks like some cool storyline stuff might be coming too or at least I hope so. Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Erin Crawford 350	Posted - 2014.11.21 21:35:20 - [86] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: ... Also looks like some cool storyline stuff might be coming too or at least I hope so. Me too, especially if this storyline affects the entire player-base at large in one way or another.
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 212	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:03:57 - [87] - Quote Holy cow, if everything that is discussed here becomes a reality I'll go haywire Seriously, this might become one of the biggest player-driven things ever done in gaming!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5237	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:18:33 - [88] - Quote I am currently trying to imagine the faces of people when CCP declares player build stargates are only done by the permadeath sleeper players. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1092	Posted - 2014.11.21 22:18:35 - [89] - Quote Hm, looking at above posters, Hype Boosters are running full tilt! Honestly, so far it looks that Rhea will shake up Eve lorewise concerning the sleepers and maybe Jovians too (why else deliver jove bodyparts?) Gameplay wise, it'll throw in alot as well, tech 3 destroyers, the Thera system & the Shattered wormhole systems, not to mention bigger sleeper siets in empire space & roaming Sleeper NPC's ! Can't wait to see how it'll all connects! Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies! Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapons!
Sakaron Hefdover Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 42	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:15:42 - [90] - Quote 1 mill isk on SOE reverse engineering Sleeper tech, creates Thera as a base of operations, and sleepers are invited to new eden against the "other". Big battle occurs, everyone goes back to grr goons after a month


CCP Darwin C C P C C P Alliance 456	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:20:52 - [91] - Quote ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Suddenly the illusion of solitude shatters. Slender, articulated obsidian shapes slide toward you from the surrounding darkness of space. Your sensors scream claxons into your auditory cortex as the drones' targeting systems lock onto your ship. You are not alone. Perhaps you never were. CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins

Jvpiter Jovelike 1829	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:24:19 - [92] - Quote +1 for using "claxons". I had to look that up. Call me Joe.
Red Teufel Mafia Redux 402	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:29:03 - [93] - Quote ... so Sleeper escalations will be a thing now?
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1382	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:29:28 - [94] - Quote CCP Darwin wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Suddenly the illusion of solitude shatters. Slender, articulated obsidian shapes slide toward you from the surrounding darkness of space. Your sensors scream claxons into your auditory cortex as the drones' targeting systems lock onto your ship. You are not alone. Perhaps you never were. Plus 1 and a like because that's where our Alliance name came from. Sounds like busy times ahead. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11204	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:31:15 - [95] - Quote CCP Darwin wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Suddenly the illusion of solitude shatters. Slender, articulated obsidian shapes slide toward you from the surrounding darkness of space. Your sensors scream claxons into your auditory cortex as the drones' targeting systems lock onto your ship. You are not alone. Perhaps you never were. "The Sleepers have risen." A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5238	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:31:47 - [96] - Quote CCP Darwin wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Suddenly the illusion of solitude shatters. Slender, articulated obsidian shapes slide toward you from the surrounding darkness of space. Your sensors scream claxons into your auditory cortex as the drones' targeting systems lock onto your ship. You are not alone. Perhaps you never were. I knew I have had read that before somewhere. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1382	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:33:15 - [97] - Quote Red Teufel wrote: ... so Sleeper escalations will be a thing now? If we get incursions from wormhole space, the one thing you can be sure of, is they ain't Like any incursion you faced before. Thera shows what happens when HS players engage what they think of as "just gate rats" ( from a series of famous last words in Thera local) There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 93019	Posted - 2014.11.21 23:33:43 - [98] - Quote I'm also very interested in what the SoE and The Sanctuary have to do with all of this. There is way more to them than what meets the eye. Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 58	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:19:20 - [99] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: I'm also very interested in what the SoE and The Sanctuary have to do with all of this. There is way more to them than what meets the eye. Agreed on this specifically. A few years ago When I read the "Burning Life", I was constantly thinking to myself: The Sisters of EVE oppose capsuleers on an almost fanatical level. They do a great job of hiding behind their humanitarian efforts, but I've long suspected that we will be seeing more aggressive moves from them. I wouldn't be surprised that a high SOE standing in game will be a gateway for interacting with Sleeper factions in the future. Just pure speculation from the canon I've read. (or rather my interpretations.)
Warde Guildencrantz TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1109	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:35:57 - [100] - Quote IVE CRACKED THE CODE it's a titan-sized Dominix! http://i.imgur.com/hNU0aeZ.jpg (jks) TunDraGon Director ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us My ship fits

Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine 2071	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:38:46 - [101] - Quote Warde Guildencrantz wrote: IVE CRACKED THE CODE it's a titan-sized Dominix! http://i.imgur.com/hNU0aeZ.jpg (jks) God damnit... A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Warde Guildencrantz TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1109	Posted - 2014.11.22 00:40:05 - [102] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: Warde Guildencrantz wrote: IVE CRACKED THE CODE it's a titan-sized Dominix! http://i.imgur.com/hNU0aeZ.jpg (jks) God damnit... Can't be unseen :P TunDraGon Director ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us My ship fits
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 2220	Posted - 2014.11.22 01:10:58 - [103] - Quote Warde Guildencrantz wrote: IVE CRACKED THE CODE it's a titan-sized Dominix! http://i.imgur.com/hNU0aeZ.jpg (jks) I hate you so much right now. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Kyoko Sakoda Sakoda Security Services 166	Posted - 2014.11.22 08:44:39 - [104] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? Aliens FTFY.
Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.11.22 10:45:46 - [105] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/102954189473 Anyone else notice the "Drones in bay" with health bars?
Anslo Scope Works 22335	Posted - 2014.11.22 14:16:58 - [106] - Quote Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ***** filters in Photoshop or something ?? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5241	Posted - 2014.11.22 14:50:11 - [107] - Quote Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Arla Sarain 126	Posted - 2014.11.22 14:53:27 - [108] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Bt muh Eev iz nut baut alens. unsbscribed wnt remcnded for frands
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1102	Posted - 2014.11.22 15:01:02 - [109] - Quote Arla Sarain wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Bt muh Eev iz nut baut alens. unsbscribed wnt remcnded for frands But WE are the aliens! We're the ones invading unknown space inhabited by sentient lifeforms, committing massive Genocide! We're just doing the Independence Day movie on a galactic scale, with us placed in the role as the alien invading force! Do look forward to the Sleeper response to our actions in Anoikis space tho.... I doubt they're going to come out, wave a little white flag to parlay about peace... Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies! Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapons!
Meiyang Lee Game Instrument Applications 62	Posted - 2014.11.22 15:53:53 - [110] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: But WE are the aliens! We're the ones invading unknown space inhabited by sentient lifeforms, committing massive Genocide! We're just doing the Independence Day movie on a galactic scale, with us placed in the role as the alien invading force! Do look forward to the Sleeper response to our actions in Anoikis space tho.... I doubt they're going to come out and wave a little white flag to parlay about peace... Do keep in mind that the Sleepers, regardless of their highly advanced technology, are still humans. Their drones are far more advanced than anything the Empires of New Eden are capable of, but they're still human. There are no Aliens, we are an invading force though, you're certainly right on that point. The response from the Sleepers will probably be quite drastic, and may well be the end of the current balance of power, although I'm not certain if the Sleepers themselves are actually waking up, or this is an advanced defensive mechanism kicking in autonomously.

Unezka Turigahl Det Som Engang Var 476	Posted - 2014.11.22 16:53:46 - [111] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. I gave it a shot too...
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 93493	Posted - 2014.11.22 16:59:35 - [112] - Quote It kinda looks like a Rupture hull to me but the bottom looks too a bit pointy. CCP is probably just setting back, reading this thread, laughing at all our guesses and speculations . Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Jade Blackwind Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 205	Posted - 2014.11.22 17:01:37 - [113] - Quote Merida DunBrogh wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/102954189473 Anyone else notice the "Drones in bay" with health bars? Anyone else notice that the Thanny has a Serpentis skin?
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5242	Posted - 2014.11.22 17:35:37 - [114] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. I gave it a shot too... It does look somewhat like a Talocan station. Someone reactivating those for whatever purposes? SOE? Sansha? Jove? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 230	Posted - 2014.11.22 17:44:21 - [115] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. I gave it a shot too... Damn it's been a while since I played the original Star Fox.
stoicfaux 5432	Posted - 2014.11.22 18:22:19 - [116] - Quote Merida DunBrogh wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/102954189473 Anyone else notice the "Drones in bay" with health bars? It's a typo. It should actually read 'Drones in Space'. I have already submitted a bug report. WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.11.22 20:55:50 - [117] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Merida DunBrogh wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/102954189473 Anyone else notice the "Drones in bay" with health bars? It's a typo. It should actually read 'Drones in Space'. I have already submitted a bug report. I would like to disagree. For one, the ship is in mid-warp, fighter drones do not display their health when you are offgrid on your UI, correct?(I am not 100% certain of this, not a carrier pilot) The UI is also saying 0 of max 10 in space, which unless part of the bug, means that those are indeed health bars of drones in the ship bay. Edit2: Those are also a Civilian Mining Drone and a Salvage Drone, which will be abandoned when you enter warp no matter what ship you fly, so my bet is definitely on health bars on drones in bay. I could be wrong! But that is my observation. Edit: Also, that was something on the Internal test servers apparently, so(If I am correct) not on Singularity/Duality: "A rogue CCP Karkur brought her Thanny to Thera. Even on our internal test servers no caps are allowed there (except freighters), so weGÇÖre hunting her down to give her what she deserves"
Arisidana Amadari Traders 40	Posted - 2014.11.22 21:55:58 - [118] - Quote Confirmed, health bars for drones in bay are live on Sisi
stoicfaux 5432	Posted - 2014.11.22 23:01:48 - [119] - Quote Arisidana wrote: Confirmed, health bars for drones in bay are live on Sisi Sorry, but no. WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 118	Posted - 2014.11.22 23:09:11 - [120] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Sorry, but no. Bad troll is bad at trolling.

Merida DunBrogh Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.11.23 00:13:50 - [121] - Quote Arisidana wrote: Confirmed, health bars for drones in bay are live on Sisi Just noticed as well while playing on sisi, which is why I returned here, woo! Very useful :D
Alexa Coates Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order 743	Posted - 2014.11.23 01:41:11 - [122] - Quote The happening level is too damn high in here. What are you up to, ccp? That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 953	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:03:42 - [123] - Quote Alexa Coates wrote: The happening level is too damn high in here. What are you up to, ccp? They went near /pol/ to find out what it was and came back changed?
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 25212	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:26:55 - [124] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. I gave it a shot too... found this on the dust forums hmm from this thread dust bunny thread i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2014.11.23 02:52:22 - [125] - Quote I see this guy here. I see them everywhere. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4106011 Two Rogue Drone Mothers http://i.imgur.com/qwvEiQG.jpg-á
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 1337	Posted - 2014.11.23 03:30:15 - [126] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: Alexa Coates wrote: The happening level is too damn high in here. What are you up to, ccp? They went near /pol/ to find out what it was and came back changed? Changed like "Where we're going we don't need eyes to see..." or just changed like a new haircut? Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:09:22 - [127] - Quote Old sleeper ships compared to the new ones seem to have their heads missing. Maybe thats why they were 'Sleepers', and now they're gonna be 'awakened' or 'disturbed' drones? Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4106011 Two Rogue Drone Mothers http://i.imgur.com/qwvEiQG.jpg-á
mr roadkill Mystery Incorporated 22	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:47:53 - [128] - Quote Sleepers have awakened and they want their bodies and implants back. Sansha has been stealing people from planets for them to inhabit the bodies. All dust clones must be destroyed to give implants back. Basically dust is over =ƒÿä
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5247	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:51:08 - [129] - Quote mr roadkill wrote: Basically dust is over =ƒÿä All Dust players getting turned into permadeath sleeper players confirmed! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Sequester Risalo Significant Others 13	Posted - 2014.11.23 07:55:14 - [130] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Old sleeper ships compared to the new ones seem to have their heads missing. Maybe thats why they were 'Sleepers', and now they're gonna be 'awakened' or 'disturbed' drones? Thats the most important observation in this thread. I always thought those cables/tentackes were some sort of "arms" with clamps like for working underwater. I found that a bit silly. What do warships need arms for and those always looked like they were helplessly flailing in space. Now if you replace "head" with "cockpit" or "crew cabin" you are on to something. Either the npc sleepers will get better with the head or it might be possible for players to fly the sleeper ships.

Razor Blue Fistful of Finns Triumvirate. 16	Posted - 2014.11.23 11:31:25 - [131] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/103040287158 Oh my god. The picture of the cloaked thingy is actually one of those stereogram pictures. Just keep staring at it and focus your vision to the back of the screen and you'll see it.
Gregor Parud 760	Posted - 2014.11.23 12:18:35 - [132] - Quote EVE lore is pretty much dead.
Kalen Vox Veyr The Veyr Collective 33	Posted - 2014.11.23 13:43:06 - [133] - Quote I've been looking at the image of what I can only presume is a cloaked station, trying to figure out what it actually looks like. Unfortunately I've not got much to contribute, but I did do some work with photoshop. http://i.imgur.com/LPfmqbp.jpg (Original for Comparison) The cloaking effect seems to be green so I sharpened the picture up then replaced some of the green hues with white to highlight them. There's definitely a greater return of green from where the structure is but unfortunately there was a lot of background noise from green points in the nebula. I couldn't highlight anything at the top or bottom of the structure without catching a load of noise all over the image. However, if you look carefully you can see some pretty clear edges there, which I highlighted on the image. I'm not so sure about the ones at the bottom, maybe decide for yourself looking at the original. One last thing though, i found a density of green to the left and right of the main structure (highlighted in the image) as well which doesn't seem to occur anywhere else in the background. So I think we are looking at a vertical structure with protrusions to the left and right. The one on the right shows no green between it and the main structure so I wonder if it is either entirely free of the main structure or attached only on a narrow boom. Maybe those clues will help someone with more familiarity with the lore identify it, because I'm pretty stumped. I'd hoped for better results.
Arla Sarain 126	Posted - 2014.11.23 14:21:42 - [134] - Quote So, basically, I found the location in space (amarr as you can see from the background) found the ship next to it through probing Flew right next to it and decloaked the cloaked thingy WARNING: this changes everything we knew about EVE lore http://i.imgur.com/3FY8bqH.jpg He warned us. Can't complain now.
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 953	Posted - 2014.11.23 15:35:45 - [135] - Quote Debora Tsung wrote: NEONOVUS wrote: Alexa Coates wrote: The happening level is too damn high in here. What are you up to, ccp? They went near /pol/ to find out what it was and came back changed? Changed like "Where we're going we don't need eyes to see..." or just changed like a new haircut? Changed like conspiracy everywhere and at last I truly see macros So you know the fun type As I said, near it, not jump in and and start doing the backstroke on the TUMBLRina tears on there (yay for more invasions, they make for so much hilarity) But soon, soon we must declare war on the Other to preserve our fair capsuleer lives! It will be a sad time as we must sacrifice our lesser pawns to its forces, but a necessary one What is the EVE equivalent of 4Chan and how messed up is the Other for going to it?
Parious MeHoff Level Eight Technical Exterminations Sovereign Technologies 0	Posted - 2014.11.23 17:58:56 - [136] - Quote http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/267/939/d80.jpg
Orwyyn Darsha The Lone Wolf of EVE 15	Posted - 2014.11.23 18:37:37 - [137] - Quote I don't know about some of the halfwits on this board, but personally I welcome, SLEEPERCURSIONS!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1105	Posted - 2014.11.23 18:59:57 - [138] - Quote Orwyyn Darsha wrote: I don't know about some of the halfwits on this board, but personally I welcome, SLEEPERCURSIONS! With the difference that we don't go to them, they'll be coming for us! Apparently there will be a new kind of Sleeper NPC that will roam empire space. While it won't be the scale of the Sansha incursions, it does sound alot scarier to me... Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies! Newly discovered Sleeper sites contain advanced weapons!
Erin Crawford 357	Posted - 2014.11.23 19:14:08 - [139] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Orwyyn Darsha wrote: I don't know about some of the halfwits on this board, but personally I welcome, SLEEPERCURSIONS! With the difference that we don't go to them, they'll be coming for us! Apparently there will be a new kind of Sleeper NPC that will roam empire space. While it won't be the scale of the Sansha incursions, it does sound a lot scarier to me... Nice! But, if that happened most hi-sec capsuleers would have a brown spot in their pods!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1107	Posted - 2014.11.24 00:40:19 - [140] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Old sleeper ships compared to the new ones seem to have their heads missing. Maybe thats why they were 'Sleepers', and now they're gonna be 'awakened' or 'disturbed' drones? Nice find! I included this in the updated news article I made about the deeper levels of lore involved with the current Wormhole/Sleeper arc in Eve: Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies (Updated) In order to make it passable in character I had to describe your findings, the Dust Merc analysis of the image, Uriels excellent analysis & Rhavas observation of the Sisters as conspiracy theories tho. Capsuleer recruitment video takes GalNet by storm! Strange Sleeper ships & speculations about conspiracies (Updated)

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11817	Posted - 2014.11.24 00:59:19 - [141] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Old sleeper ships compared to the new ones seem to have their heads missing. Maybe thats why they were 'Sleepers', and now they're gonna be 'awakened' or 'disturbed' drones? Hmm.. well what if, by some chance, that "head" is a control cortex module? In other words, where a pilot would be "plugged in"- It could be anything, but if the Sleepers are returning to New Eden, I wouldn't be surprised if they're being piloted directly. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 95477	Posted - 2014.11.24 04:35:58 - [142] - Quote Hmm I tried enhancing that cloaked thing but I'm not sure what I see.... Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp Vae. Victis. 6020	Posted - 2014.11.24 05:32:17 - [143] - Quote Just an observation, but entities like sleeper ships and rogue drones that have manipulator appendages could only use them for two things. 1: Building something. 2: Taking something apart, but not destroying it. Either of which could be quite disturbing. I've had Jovian body parts for years, and now find out that apparently I've missed my opportunity to do something with them. View the latest EVE Online developments and War Thunder game play by visiting Ranger 1 Presents.
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 95497	Posted - 2014.11.24 05:41:10 - [144] - Quote Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 345	Posted - 2014.11.24 08:30:57 - [145] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Some more background: the Sleepers are suspected to have created the Jovian Disease to covertly force the entirely of the Jovians to join them in their world. They left after the Jove pursued them, and escaped into Anoikis. Uhmmm where from you got that about the Jovian Disease and the Sleepers? As far as I'm aware of the Jovian Disease is the result of the Jovians messing too much with their genetic material. Can you quote/clarify or you just woke up with that in your head that morning? [i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i] - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Elena Morin'staal Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2014.11.24 09:00:13 - [146] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Some more background: the Sleepers are suspected to have created the Jovian Disease to covertly force the entirely of the Jovians to join them in their world. They left after the Jove pursued them, and escaped into Anoikis. Uhmmm where from you got that about the Jovian Disease and the Sleepers? As far as I'm aware of the Jovian Disease is the result of the Jovians messing too much with their genetic material. Can you quote/clarify or you just woke up with that in your head that morning? Read Templar One. It contains the origins of the sleepers, the creation of the dustbunnies and all kinds of stuff. I just finished reading it at 0200 last night, over the last few days the only thing that has stopped me reading it has been the missus (nudge nudge wink wink). Hell, I've been reading it at work with kindle app! Its amazing, I NEED more eve novels. MORE.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 25597	Posted - 2014.11.24 15:01:49 - [147] - Quote it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5701	Posted - 2014.11.24 19:49:27 - [148] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Just an observation, but entities like sleeper ships and rogue drones that have manipulator appendages could only use them for two things. 1: Building something. 2: Taking something apart, but not destroying it. Either of which could be quite disturbing. I've had Jovian body parts for years, and now find out that apparently I've missed my opportunity to do something with them. 3. Scratching themselves Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11838	Posted - 2014.11.24 21:11:46 - [149] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Just an observation, but entities like sleeper ships and rogue drones that have manipulator appendages could only use them for two things. 1: Building something. 2: Taking something apart, but not destroying it. Either of which could be quite disturbing. I've had Jovian body parts for years, and now find out that apparently I've missed my opportunity to do something with them. Sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain the resource drop is still open in Eram- I deposited an Epidermis Sliver, and I may do more. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11840	Posted - 2014.11.24 21:25:20 - [150] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog. It's called theory-crafting and extrapolation from previously provided information I may not be right about this altogether, but I'll be damned if this has nothing to do with the official narrative of New Eden so far A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Ilaister Task Force Proteus Protean Concept 127	Posted - 2014.11.25 00:04:40 - [151] - Quote We've not yet explored how the sudden appearance of the Sleeper's caches in k-space tie in. The structures you find in the deadspace pocket are all damaged. The gigantic structure meant to keep the cache cloaked has been wilfully .. well.. blapped seems a good term if you look at the size of the hole that's been ripped in it. Though from weapons/sources unknown. The storage structures when you get inside have all also been either damaged, or are described as being raked through, gone over in a hurried search for something. Do we have any idea who or what would have the resources and the motivation to do this? Why would the Sleepers care one way or the other what the rest of lesser-developed humanity has been up to to the point they start collecting the crap we make? We know the architects and sleepers are sub-factions of what we call the Jove, architects being the progenitors of gate travel, sleepers providing the theory and from what you can surmise from the blue loot they drop, the drive to get out of the New Eden cluster to somewhere else. Perhaps back to Earth. Maybe just into Anoikis. If the Sleepers were escaping a vengeful Jove Empire for their misguided attempt to pull the entire civilsation into VR though, how do the Talocan figure? Sleeper structures are entwined with Talocan ones, everything in W-space points to some kind of outbreak/containment/cultural exchange going on but I've seen nothing in any lore, or novel to explain where they fit in to this. Maybe they assisted the Sleepers in containing the Jovian disease (as opposed to the Sleepers creating/forcing it on the Jove) but then, why would Garious be against them? And if the Jove are against the Sleepers why the **** would the SOE turn the capsuleers against them? Personally I haven't the faintest scooby doo wtf is going on but I can't wait to find out.
Ilaister Task Force Proteus Protean Concept 127	Posted - 2014.11.25 00:06:14 - [152] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Rain6637 wrote: it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog. It's called theory-crafting and extrapolation from previously provided information I may not be right about this altogether, but I'll be damned if this has nothing to do with the official narrative of New Eden so far Don't feed the trolls. Especially the ones without imagination.
Raviel Oxidans Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2014.11.25 01:55:51 - [153] - Quote isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought?
Pertuabo Enkidgan Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2014.11.25 12:20:01 - [154] - Quote Haha time for Enheduanni!
Aralieus The Inf1dels 225	Posted - 2014.11.25 12:24:00 - [155] - Quote Raviel Oxidans wrote: isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought? Or a sleeper supercarrier that will used to invade New Eden Oderint Dum Metuant
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 197	Posted - 2014.11.25 14:17:02 - [156] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png Initial analysis indicates that the object is 20 kilometers long and composed mainly of dentin and enamel.
Anslo Scope Works 22574	Posted - 2014.11.25 14:51:35 - [157] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png What in the ever loving ** is that? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5525	Posted - 2014.11.25 15:59:35 - [158] - Quote Anslo wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png What in the ever loving **** is that? I think it's one of these... http://blenderartists.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=245772&d=1373592088&thumb=1 Didn't we need another race to fill out the mystery 4? I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Lord Ra Section XII 23	Posted - 2014.11.25 22:03:00 - [159] - Quote Razor Blue wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/103040287158 Oh my god. The picture of the cloaked thingy is actually one of those stereogram pictures. Just keep staring at it and focus your vision to the back of the screen and you'll see it. When i tilt my monitor so it darkens slightly i can see a face to the right of the alleged structure with an arm in the air : / And i don't even smoke whacky backy...
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 154	Posted - 2014.11.25 22:07:23 - [160] - Quote [Game News] Directive Enforcement Department: "Unusual Nation Activity In Oasa" BREAKING NEWS - CONCORD's Directive Enforcement Department has released a revised security alert for CZ-06R, a constellation in the outer region of Oasa. In the update, issued during the last hour, the DED cited unusual and unexplained activity of Sansha's Nation incursion forces as the cause for the revised alert. A number of independent security forces have reported that earlier this week a large scale incursion of Nation's True Power division emerged in the CZ-06R constellation. They further report that for some six days the incursion fleet has controlled the area with no contest from local capsuleer forces. Despite their overwhelming superiority in the constellation, observers reported that Nation forces abruptly began evacuating star systems without using wormholes at approximately 13:45 Eve Standard Time today. After issuing the revised alert, Brigadier General Odo Korachi of the DED's Genesis Fleet assured the assembled press that all avenues of investigation are being explored to ascertain the reason for the sudden disappearance of thousands of hostile True Power vessels. General Korachi added: At this time, we are unsure if this change in the normal pattern of a Nation incursion is an attempt at luring curious pilots into the area in order to stage a large scale ambush, or if there are other reasons for the withdrawal of True Power forces from CZ-06R. We advise all pilots to remain clear of the area until a thorough investigation has been conducted. Scope News has confirmed with CONCORD sources that substantiated reports from cargo runners and caravan pilots describe large numbers of Sansha's Nation vessels rapidly leaving the constellation using both the regional stargate network and off-grid deadspace stargates known to the local smuggler community. Several of these reports agree that the Nation fleets were heading out of Oasa and into the Cobalt Edge region.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11989	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:26:14 - [161] - Quote @Anon I read that- and from what we can see so far, it seems like the Sansha are becoming aware of something going on with the wormhole tech they use. If the sleepers are assuming direct control of them (I'm almost positive now that those beacons and urns on the sleeper ships are wormhole generators) than they have a it of trouble in their future too- things are about to heat up big time A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5281	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:33:47 - [162] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: @Anon I read that- and from what we can see so far, it seems like the Sansha are becoming aware of something going on with the wormhole tech they use. If the sleepers are assuming direct control of them (I'm almost positive now that those beacons and urns on the sleeper ships are wormhole generators) than they have a it of trouble in their future too- things are about to heat up big time So what are the chances Sansha getting stranded on the wormholes when their tech refuses to work and incursions get replaced with Sleepers wrecking **** and taking over systems if they're not driven out? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Ilaister Task Force Proteus Protean Concept 138	Posted - 2014.11.25 23:36:17 - [163] - Quote Aralieus wrote: Raviel Oxidans wrote: isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought? Or a sleeper supercarrier that will used to invade New Eden Seems like you might have called it.
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1434	Posted - 2014.11.26 07:02:46 - [164] - Quote To me the cloaked structure has the same design than a jovian station Will try photoshop too Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.11.26 07:49:39 - [165] - Quote Altrue wrote: To me the cloaked structure has the same design than a jovian station Will try photoshop too I did that. Siegfried Tahl wrote: I see this guy here. I see them everywhere. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4106011 Two Rogue Drone Mothers http://i.imgur.com/qwvEiQG.jpg-á
Pliskkenn Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2014.11.26 11:59:42 - [166] - Quote Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote: Haha time for Enheduanni! That is a dirty DIRTY word and we do not use it in polite company.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 11990	Posted - 2014.11.26 13:34:02 - [167] - Quote Altrue wrote: To me the cloaked structure has the same design than a jovian station Will try photoshop too I've thought the same thing I actually posted about that on reddit when this whole thing started A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.11.26 15:36:54 - [168] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png This ^ and another try to play with it some more http://i.imgur.com/fBirFFD.jpg No, it doesnt look Jove anymore. At least not the "Jove Construct" Station. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 60	Posted - 2014.11.26 18:04:59 - [169] - Quote I've been playing in Photoshop as well, but nothing better or worse that what has been supplied already. It looks like a Paladin is orbiting or parked very close to whatever is cloaked. I realize that there is no real way to determine scale, as forced perspective is pretty easily accomplished in 2D images. That being said, I don't think we're looking at a station or a ship. My guess is this is a Sleeper POS. It would make sense for Sleeper POS to not have a shield bubble, as their ships are not shield tanked at all, why would their structures be? Maybe the trade off, will be they can be anchored anywhere in space, and you can dock in them, but they can cloak? Or maybe they can only be anchored in Shattered Wormholes? Who knows. I dig the effort and puzzle though.
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 96339	Posted - 2014.11.26 18:09:47 - [170] - Quote It certainly does look like some type of structure to me at least. Unlock all the clothes \|\| My Fanclub Harmless - Penniless - Aimless

Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 166	Posted - 2014.11.26 18:32:09 - [171] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: It certainly does look like some type of structure to me at least. Don't hurt over exert your brain there bud.
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 60	Posted - 2014.11.26 19:22:35 - [172] - Quote Anonymous Forumposter wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: It certainly does look like some type of structure to me at least. Don't hurt over exert your brain there bud. I'm pretty sure Kate was referring, that it looks more like a Structure than a Ship.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5295	Posted - 2014.11.26 19:24:54 - [173] - Quote Someone else see a resemblance with Talocan structures in the cloaked station thingy? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Radax Glenn C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative 60	Posted - 2014.11.26 20:40:38 - [174] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Someone else see a resemblance with Talocan structures in the cloaked station thingy? Yes, that is a solid observation.
Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine 2084	Posted - 2014.11.26 21:08:28 - [175] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: So what are the chances Sansha getting stranded on the wormholes when their tech refuses to work and incursions get replaced with Sleepers wrecking **** and taking over systems if they're not driven out? Would actually be pretty hilarious if Incursions got removed from the game to support the storyline. Would be even better if they were replaced by Sleeper-style sites that need to be salvaged and looted instead of handing out LP. A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Alexa Coates Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order 747	Posted - 2014.11.26 22:03:17 - [176] - Quote IT'S HAPPENING. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Steven Hackett Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 102	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:32:59 - [177] - Quote I tried writing in local today.. The sleepers didn't answer.. Not even when shooting at them they answered to my ransom demands.. Im telling you, they are still very much asleep :p
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.11.27 03:40:42 - [178] - Quote Hey, this pointy cloaky thingy in space looks like the dubstep machine from the last years Man of steel. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:00:05 - [179] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Someone else see a resemblance with Talocan structures in the cloaked station thingy? Talking of Talocan Structures... http://now.eveonline.com/post/102558042163/theras-epicenter Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.11.27 09:22:04 - [180] - Quote Circadian Seeker Unidentified Structure Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers

Blastcaps Madullier Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS. 157	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:29:38 - [181] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The 'Other' is an entity born completely within the confines of the Sleeper VR world. It wishes to destroy the Sleepers and change New Eden into its own vision. Now, we don't know what that "twisted vision" (as Grious calls it) is, but it does not bode well for humanity. Actually iirc from templar one, the "Other" is actualy a sleeper not a entity born in the sleeper VR world.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5305	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:35:54 - [182] - Quote Blastcaps Madullier wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The 'Other' is an entity born completely within the confines of the Sleeper VR world. It wishes to destroy the Sleepers and change New Eden into its own vision. Now, we don't know what that "twisted vision" (as Grious calls it) is, but it does not bode well for humanity. Actually iirc from templar one, the "Other" is actualy a sleeper not a entity born in the sleeper VR world. I thought it was a entity that emerged out of the connected consciousnesses of the networked sleepers in VR stasis. Which caused a kind of civil war within the system. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
okst666 Bad Request 278	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:15:29 - [183] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/eAoVwaH.png Looks familiar? Maybe got something to do with it too. [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Alexa Coates Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order 749	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:18:50 - [184] - Quote okst666 wrote: http://i.imgur.com/eAoVwaH.png Looks familiar? Maybe got something to do with it too. o shet That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Qvar Dar'Zanar EVE University Ivy League 305	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:43:10 - [185] - Quote Holy cow. Holy cow indeed.
okst666 Bad Request 279	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:14:50 - [186] - Quote the thing the guy on reddit found looks like a shattered crystal to me.. http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2no0tn/found_ccps_christmas_decorations/ shattered crystal...hmmmm [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Razor Blue Fistful of Finns Triumvirate. 16	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:23:56 - [187] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/103800402683 New picture has been released... This does not bode well...
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.11.28 17:46:53 - [188] - Quote Hot from Sisi Found an Unidentified Structure in Citadel > Ieyama > Hasama In the middle of a cloud, blurry with lightnings. http://i.imgur.com/63ucMu2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QotJGuT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EMMQw6k.jpg Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 169	Posted - 2014.11.28 17:54:36 - [189] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Hot from Sisi Found an Unidentified Structure in Citadel > Ieyama > Hasama In the middle of a cloud, blurry with lightnings. http://i.imgur.com/63ucMu2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QotJGuT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EMMQw6k.jpg Nice! How was it found? Was it just a beacon? Overview? Did you have to enable it? Have you checked other systems?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 12169	Posted - 2014.11.28 17:57:08 - [190] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Hot from Sisi Found an Unidentified Structure in Citadel > Ieyama > Hasama In the middle of a cloud, blurry with lightnings. http://i.imgur.com/63ucMu2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QotJGuT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EMMQw6k.jpg Oh my. On my way over there now, then- this is interesting A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

okst666 Bad Request 280	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:06:01 - [191] - Quote so this is where sansha claus lives?! [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:06:43 - [192] - Quote Was actually searching for shattered WHs, found one boring with only "Shattered debris" asteroid field, "Shattered Ice Field", in and out WHs. Then after a chain of normal c5-c4-c1-... went lowsec and there it was a Celestial Beacon "Unidentified ..." Its either extreme luck or maybe there are many of those. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 12169	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:08:05 - [193] - Quote okst666 wrote: so this is where sansha claus lives?! Well I DID find a file under outposts, in a folder called xmas, which has a folder called santa, which has a model called kasper- it looks like a giant bunch of long crystals! I bet Santa lives there I'm not even joking A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 169	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:13:09 - [194] - Quote okst666 wrote: so this is where sansha claus lives?! Admit it, you just wanted to share your bad pun with us.
okst666 Bad Request 280	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:15:42 - [195] - Quote Anonymous Forumposter wrote: okst666 wrote: so this is where sansha claus lives?! Admit it, you just wanted to share your bad pun with us. ueh ueh ueh [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 170	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:20:28 - [196] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: okst666 wrote: so this is where sansha claus lives?! Well I DID find a file under outposts, in a folder called xmas, which has a folder called santa, which has a model called kasper- it looks like a giant bunch of long crystals! I bet Santa lives there I'm not even joking Casper is one of the three wisemen, So maybe this is in some way related one of three gifts we're getting? From wikipedia: "Caspar (/-êk+ªsp+Ö/ or /-êk+ªsp+æ-É/;[15] also Gaspar, Jaspar, Jaspas, Gathaspa,[14][16] and other variations), an Indian scholar;"
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 12171	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:25:04 - [197] - Quote Okay- so Sieg and I are in Hasama right now, and the structure he's found is definitely the 'kasper' outpost I found: here's a screenshot of the model. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 170	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:40:35 - [198] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Okay- so Sieg and I are in Hasama right now, and the structure he's found is definitely the 'kasper' outpost I found: here's a screenshot of the model. Any new observations worthy of note? How massive is it? Does it spin? Does it make noise?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 12176	Posted - 2014.11.28 18:57:25 - [199] - Quote Anonymous Forumposter wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Okay- so Sieg and I are in Hasama right now, and the structure he's found is definitely the 'kasper' outpost I found: here's a screenshot of the model. Any new observations worthy of note? How massive is it? Does it spin? Does it make noise? From my leopard, it's ENORMOUS. I'm gonna go back in a battleship and try to estimate the size better. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anslo Scope Works The Blacklist. 22648	Posted - 2014.11.29 00:37:48 - [200] - Quote And NOW we got a new pic on now.eve....a big, broken Erebus...and on SISI....a crystal station.. Wat [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Alexa Coates Space Wolves ind. The Revenant Order 749	Posted - 2014.11.29 02:50:31 - [201] - Quote everyone hold on to your butts because the happening is upon us. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4881	Posted - 2014.11.29 03:16:07 - [202] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Dear Falcon, What is the amount of ISK I need to transfer to your wallet so that you can gladly give me those picture posting powers that you have? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Erin Crawford 360	Posted - 2014.11.29 08:51:25 - [203] - Quote Just noticed that the Radio Telescopes emit a sound when close enough that might sound like a warning signal. Has this always been like this, is it new and could it be related to what's happening lore wise?
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5331	Posted - 2014.11.29 08:54:24 - [204] - Quote Erin Crawford wrote: Just noticed that the Radio Telescopes emit a sound when close enough that might sound like a warning signal. Has this always been like this, is it new and could it be related to what's happening lore wise? Recent release added some more environmental sounds to LCOs. I remember reading that in some patch notes. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 346	Posted - 2014.11.29 11:16:45 - [205] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Anslo wrote: Would some one run that damn cloaked ship image through some ******* filters in Photoshop or something ?? Played around a bit with filters but it didn't get much better. This is about the best result I could get. Sleeper cloak best cloak! [i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i] - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Torgeir Hekard I MYSELF AND ME 93	Posted - 2014.12.01 12:06:30 - [206] - Quote Heeey Giiiirls Look what i've accidentally on SiSi Wasn't that teh droids you were looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=araVBNq_XOw
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1130	Posted - 2014.12.01 12:16:50 - [207] - Quote Torgeir Hekard wrote: Heeey Giiiirls Look what i've accidentally on SiSi Wasn't that teh droids you were looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=araVBNq_XOw Siegfried Tahl wrote: Hot from Sisi Found an Unidentified Structure in Citadel > Ieyama > Hasama In the middle of a cloud, blurry with lightnings. http://i.imgur.com/63ucMu2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QotJGuT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EMMQw6k.jpg Ok, so now we know two locations of these structures: Aeter system in Solitude and Hasama system in Citadel.... Any more of these? Maybe something interesting about the systems themselves? Or their stars? (Seyllin Incident!) Over 29.000 refugees join the Aurora Arcology! Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
Torgeir Hekard I MYSELF AND ME 93	Posted - 2014.12.01 12:36:08 - [208] - Quote Well, IIRC, Aeter is famous for being technically the largest system in k-space. Not as in the maximum distance between celestials (I believe there are systems around X7 that have longer warps), but as in having a planet with the highest orbit (about 121 AU). As for the star, it shows as K3. Spectral class K2 IV. Hasama,on the other hand, has a different star and is pretty small. While Aeter is in a backwater deadend lowsec island, Hasama is a pipe system between 2 regions. I don't think the systems themselves have much significance, though it would probably be wise to check other faction lows for these, uhh, obelisks.
Nyphur Pillowsoft 18	Posted - 2014.12.01 13:47:06 - [209] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Ok, so now we know two locations of these structures: Aeter system in Solitude and Hasama system in Citadel.... Any more of these? Maybe something interesting about the systems themselves? Or their stars? (Seyllin Incident!) We know from the Seyllin incident that caches of isogen-5 have been hidden around New Eden and that the disaster was caused by several of these hidden caches exploding at the L1 legrange point between several Type O1 stars and Planet 1 in the system. But there's nothing to say there aren't more caches in other star systems with different stars entirely, and if there are then they're likely cloaked. That unidentified structure looks awfully like it's got a malfunctioning cloaking device, which draws a parallel with how the Amarr Empress found the Terran superweapon in a facility hidden by a Jovian cloaking device that happened to fail. If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say these structures are either Jove Isogen-5 caches or covert Sleeper structures that are only now coming to life. Either option is exciting and pushes the core storyline forward. EDIT: Or it could just be a christmas event thing and we're blowing it out of proportion :D
Arpeggi Montgomery Oath of the Forsaken WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation 4	Posted - 2014.12.01 14:00:32 - [210] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Ok, so now we know two locations of these structures: Aeter system in Solitude and Hasama system in Citadel.... Any more of these? Maybe something interesting about the systems themselves? Or their stars? (Seyllin Incident!) Reporting in o7 Additional sighting confirmed in 0-LR1H < E-8CSQ < Vale Of The Silent http://i.imgur.com/S6eaNbu.jpg Discovered last night while hunting for Thera.

Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 58	Posted - 2014.12.01 15:37:16 - [211] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Found several more Unidentified Structure Icicle thingie. So now its : Hasama Nakugard Sotrentaira Hikansog Salah Me guesses there be plenty of those. Me be looking for more. Posted this in the other topic. Found yet another one in Ithar right after. BTW Ithar-Hikansog-Salah only 8 jumps distance. My guess theres plenty of those thingies. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Chico Mecoatl Sister Chico's Shooting Circus 0	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:20:04 - [212] - Quote I have seen them in: Colelie / Algintal / Sinq Liason Augnais / Algintal / Sinq Laison Balle / Disier / Sinq Laison Dousivitte / Agiesson / Sinq Laison Cherore / Chasnaye / Everyshore Marosier / Ysiette / Everyshore So yes, they are present many places.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1133	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:17:54 - [213] - Quote Okay, so these things are actually fairly common Wonder what they are? And if they are ancient constructs only now appearing (with a failing cloak device) because of interference with something (the bright star aftermath?) Over 29.000 refugees join the Aurora Arcology! Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26321	Posted - 2014.12.02 00:58:29 - [214] - Quote I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 756	Posted - 2014.12.02 02:11:07 - [215] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Lol, why would the goons care about pve? That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 171	Posted - 2014.12.02 02:16:37 - [216] - Quote Alexa Coates wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Lol, why would the goons care about pve? There's "The Goons" and people that are just in goons.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2014.12.02 02:47:43 - [217] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Bumping in covops does nothing thats for sure. Was thinking of smartbombing or ECM bursting it, but went on exploring wormholes. What other AoE means to interact with a non-targetable thing are there? Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 756	Posted - 2014.12.02 02:57:54 - [218] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Bumping in covops does nothing thats for sure. Was thinking of smartbombing or ECM bursting it, but went on exploring wormholes. What other AoE means to interact with a non-targetable thing are there? bombs? That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26382	Posted - 2014.12.02 05:28:12 - [219] - Quote so it can't be targeted? I was thinking Doomsday. something about superweapons setting them off, amirite Alexa Coates wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Lol, why would the goons care about pve? ah, right. sorry. I'll eat your pubbie firstborn rawr. better? President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 3855	Posted - 2014.12.02 05:46:48 - [220] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm in class right now and this is killing me. I won't be home for several hours still. Do they react to proximity at all? have you tried smartbombing the structure, etc. ...bring different ships to it, activate every type of module you can fit in eve, in close proximity, etc. ? Bumping in covops does nothing thats for sure. Was thinking of smartbombing or ECM bursting it, but went on exploring wormholes. What other AoE means to interact with a non-targetable thing are there? You could try spawning CONCORD near it by sacrificing a miner. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 & Vote #2 Tora Bushido

Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2014.12.02 06:34:30 - [221] - Quote I was wrong, it's targetable. But its an LCO so I think its invulnerable, and doubt any other non-weapon mod would affect it. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
okst666 Bad Request 282	Posted - 2014.12.02 06:45:58 - [222] - Quote I would not be schocked if there are actually 13 of those structures. Like in 13 Yule lads. [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26384	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:32:14 - [223] - Quote hey so it looks to me like shards of rocks. not very structure-like. odd that it's cloaked though. http://www.mediafire.com/?k4vue1fbi6uo2 twitch stream of the process President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:42:53 - [224] - Quote Combat drones cant lock it or cant engage for some other reason, like cloak or stealth. Mining drones dont dig it cause its not an asteroid. Salvage drones cant salvage non-wreck object. E-war drones sit idle too, cant lock. Smartbombs do nothing. Laser turrets hit for 0 damage. Cant use large neut yet, 5x t2 mediums in a Curse dont suck enough to affect it, if even possible to neut it at all. Hmm... Dont know what else to try. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Daniel Jackson Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant 58	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:43:10 - [225] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: hey so it looks to me like shards of rocks. not very structure-like. odd that it's cloaked though. http://www.mediafire.com/?k4vue1fbi6uo2 twitch stream of the process this is waht the full thing looks like someone dug in the eve files and found it https://i.imgur.com/ADxqM6v.png I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 26900	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:54:52 - [226] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: hey so it looks to me like shards of rocks. not very structure-like. odd that it's cloaked though. http://www.mediafire.com/?k4vue1fbi6uo2 twitch stream of the process good stuff rain 7 i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
okst666 Bad Request 282	Posted - 2014.12.02 07:57:16 - [227] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: hey so it looks to me like shards of rocks. not very structure-like. odd that it's cloaked though. http://www.mediafire.com/?k4vue1fbi6uo2 twitch stream of the process This is like eve with night vision googles on? [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26384	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:04:40 - [228] - Quote yes, EVE peeping tom nightvision cam mode President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Lachesiss Chaos From Order Manifest Destiny. 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:16:10 - [229] - Quote There could be many reasons for all these sightings, 1. We know that isogen-5 is the base material for the super weapon and the Jove may have set cloaking devices on all of them so they cannot be mined, bombed, locked or poked with a fork. The reason why you cant do anything with them at this time is because the cloaking devices are protecting them. However considering they may have been there all along its possibly that the cloaking devices are starting to fail. It could be the raw energy source for the new gate or gates that could possibly be made in the future. 2. It could actually just be a shard from a planet. we know that most cores have an area around them of huge crystals. 3. CCP could just be taking the **** and Falcon is laughing his head off at all of us. 4. As we know none of the Jove mother ships have never been seen, however we do know there were 3 of which one was out of service many years ago. There is an insert that concord or any of the other races officially knew how many Jove mother ships had been constructed or what they looked like. None have ever been noted as the same or have had recent images of them. You could possibly say they are Jove mother ships and there cloaks are failing. If there are multiple sightings of these it could possibly transpire that there cloaks are failing and that the sleepers may have to come to protect them. Could it be possible that the shards are actual Jove mother ships with failing cloaks and if so with there cloaks failing could the ships be waking up. The Jove gradually showing they are here with us and have been all the time?. However it could be the reverse. There is a note about sleepers in the new patch and kind of hinting that its a really bad idea to engage them. We seem to be basing "sleepers" on the Wh sleepers we have known for some years now. However it could also be possible this is somebody who has been sleeping or has been asleep. We know that the Jove had cryo's and had been in stasis for some time. Is this the new sleeper. The Jove awakening? Sorry for the babble. I must congrat CCP though on making one of the best anticipated patches I have ever seen since beta
Jove Eden Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation 19	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:24:53 - [230] - Quote Just a thought...... Have any of these turned up in null space yet?. You know These could actually be Jove tech super weapons that destroy Gates and systems. Look at the positioning of the sightings. If these are super weapons and they go bang they could make the gate jump mapping completely different. All the gates vaporized in Jove space and now these shards are popping up not everywhere but in key places.

Summer Rays Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.02 08:46:16 - [231] - Quote There isogen-5's with enough explosives to blow systems up and there activating Jove have just detonated all of them in Jove space. The ones your seeing now poking around space will blow up to. Its the Jove fail safe device going off so you cannot build super gates
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1134	Posted - 2014.12.02 10:00:37 - [232] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Combat drones cant lock it or cant engage for some other reason, like cloak or stealth. Mining drones dont dig it cause its not an asteroid. Salvage drones cant salvage non-wreck object. E-war drones sit idle too, cant lock. Smartbombs do nothing. Laser turrets hit for 0 damage. Cant use large neut yet, 5x t2 mediums in a Curse dont suck enough to affect it, if even possible to neut it at all. Hmm... Dont know what else to try. Someone tried Data or Relic analyzers? Also Rain 6637, awesome night vision pics you made of them! Ready yourself! The second Luminaire Snowball Fight is coming! Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:35:23 - [233] - Quote HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT !!!!! Two Circadian Seekers, the new sleeper ships showed up in the site, been there for about 10 minutes. Communicated with Unidentified Structure then warped away. Didnt fight back, no backup came in after aggression. Left no wreck or can. Think they may have added them in todays patch, as i have spent several hours near the structure in past days. Screens: http://imgur.com/c59Y8O8 http://imgur.com/9qfs5P0 http://imgur.com/JeRbdgf http://imgur.com/DfAxBhh PS: data/relics dont work, cargo scan shows empty. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26444	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:38:09 - [234] - Quote circadian sleeper. i like that. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 26910	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:48:56 - [235] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT !!!!! Two Circadian Seekers, the new sleeper ships showed up in the site, been there for about 10 minutes. Communicated with Unidentified Structure then warped away. Didnt fight back, no backup came in after aggression. Left no wreck or can. Think they may have added them in todays patch, as i have spent several hours near the structure in past days. Screens: http://imgur.com/c59Y8O8 http://imgur.com/9qfs5P0 http://imgur.com/JeRbdgf http://imgur.com/DfAxBhh PS: data/relics dont work, cargo scan shows empty. good stuff you seemed to have no trouble hurting them ? i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26451	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:06:46 - [236] - Quote they're kinda tanky. held up for a bit under 8k dps video if you go out there, enable "Roaming Sleepers Cruiser" under Entity in Overview Settings (Tab Presets->Types) it scanned me with a white light, went from ship to ship. damn my video lag President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Caja Wrython Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 2	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:07:33 - [237] - Quote The only thing left is to send over boarding parties.... http://youtu.be/pXb0zcEM-rI
Elena Morin'staal Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:11:36 - [238] - Quote Its been suggested that sleepers will start entering known space and roaming. CCP is up to something. Do not trust the one named Falcon.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:15:39 - [239] - Quote Maybe you have to hack Sleepers while they interact with Structure if they dont aggress. Or maybe place a Siphon Unit. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 26915	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:16:00 - [240] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: they're kinda tanky. held up for a bit under 8k dps video if you go out there, enable "Roaming Sleepers Cruiser" under Entity in Overview Settings (Tab Presets->Types) it scanned me with a white light, went from ship to ship. damn my video lag white light eh, things are starting to get very interesting this could be the best patch ever i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26469	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:16:54 - [241] - Quote I didn't notice the structure becoming targetable in overview... did you try shooting it why would they scan a lump of isogen 5 President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 66	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:50:50 - [242] - Quote Apoc x8 heavy neuts does nothing too. Hmm, isogen you say, try and dig it? Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Lachesiss Chaos From Order Manifest Destiny. 15	Posted - 2014.12.02 13:51:32 - [243] - Quote So am I guessing these sleepers will soon be able to engage? and have small drop drones like our drones? CCP said something about sleepers popping up in space but be careful if your going to engage them?.
okst666 Bad Request 284	Posted - 2014.12.02 14:57:45 - [244] - Quote hmm...sleepers with shields? thats uncommon. And if "Roaming Sleeper Cruisers" tank 8K dps...how much will the battleship tank ? [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Nyphur Pillowsoft 20	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:22:17 - [245] - Quote okst666 wrote: hmm...sleepers with shields? thats uncommon. And if "Roaming Sleeper Cruisers" tank 8K dps...how much will the battleship tank ? If the Sleepers have powerful shields that's particularly distubing because the historical records say it was the Yan Jung (another ancient civ) that had the advanced shield technology. Either the Sleeper's basic shield tech is well beyond anything we have (and the Yan Jung's shields would therefore be absurdly powerful if we ever meet them) or these roaming Sleepers may actually have access to Yan Jung tech.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:33:21 - [246] - Quote Nighmare with 500 dps did fine. There are thin shields and thick armor unlike normal sleepers, nothing too hard though. 8k dps - if it was from BSes on a cruiser sized ship, there was no 8k there.. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26497	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:48:32 - [247] - Quote damage notifications were registering 1/20 of volley (average 350 damage per volley). If its resist profile is the same across the board like other sleepers, it's 95% I used All level V Vindicators with Neutron Blaster II / Void which is just shy of 6600 per volley, and also split evenly between kin/therm. Siegfried Tahl wrote: Nighmare with 500 dps did fine. There are thin shields and thick armor unlike normal sleepers, nothing too hard though. 8k dps - if it was from BSes on a cruiser sized ship, there was no 8k there.. it had 8 vindi webs on it, as well as scrams. No one was moving. damage modifier was effectively perfect. But you're right, there might be some tracking error (and also my memory), and its resist profile could be 90% President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:04:48 - [248] - Quote Single Nightmare with 1800 per valley / 500 dps paper damage (EM BTW) applied from 96(graze) to 1531(hits) to 1917 (penetrates) of actual damage. So I think its BS guns signature resolution and tracking thing. They arent that tough at all ;) Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 12905	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:59:27 - [249] - Quote What if these Sleepers really don't fight back, but are in fact gathering data or some other resource? In the past, sleepers haven't come after us unless we show up at the enclaves and endanger the Architects- what if the passivity is intentional, and destroying them will carry some future consequence? Of course, I could be totally wrong/ but that would be interesting A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5371	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:01:30 - [250] - Quote Maybe they're just looking for ice belts. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics

Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:33:19 - [251] - Quote Followed it when it warped off, we landed at a planetary customs office, it interacted the same way with it as it does with the unidentified structure, then came back to the site. So I think the rock is actually a rock and the sleeper mines it and unloads result at a customs office. But there is a problem. Sleepers often seem to confuse the rock with the celestial beacon in the site - both have the same name. So it unloads nothing. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:00:08 - [252] - Quote Some guy said he saw a sleeper scanning a station when he undocked, some other guy said it scanned his ship. So I may have got it wrong. Maybe it scans objects in the system and then dumps the result to the structure. Interesting note. It only has one visible turret http://i.imgur.com/x40HUN4.jpg maybe looks familiar to someone? Tho most likely its sleeper specific module. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Guttripper State War Academy Caldari State 568	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:45:54 - [253] - Quote Jove Eden wrote: Just a thought...... Have any of these turned up in null space yet?. You know These could actually be Jove tech super weapons that destroy Gates and systems. Look at the positioning of the sightings. If these are super weapons and they go bang they could make the gate jump mapping completely different. All the gates vaporized in Jove space and now these shards are popping up not everywhere but in key places. Just to elaborate upon that thought... Perhaps this is the means for players to create and build star gates. They get destroyed, the four Empires and Concord can not afford and / or do not have the means in man power or materials to replace them, so to keep the universe open, we players have to build them. Especially if by chance an unknown enemy seeks to wage war in our universe and thus uses divide and conquer techniques by limiting star gate travel. And this just happens after CCP nerfed light year distant jumps for ships so most players could not by-pass these divided areas.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 372	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:48:56 - [254] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: What if these Sleepers really don't fight back, but are in fact gathering data or some other resource? In the past, sleepers haven't come after us unless we show up at the enclaves and endanger the Architects- what if the passivity is intentional, and destroying them will carry some future consequence? Of course, I could be totally wrong/ but that would be interesting It'd be a cool future lore event. Say, a race of sorts. On the one hand, if enough capsuleers in enough different ships are scanned, we get access to some cool new stuff. On the other, if capsuleers destroy enough Roamers before the scan quota is met, the "cool new stuff" is used against us in some way. Just spitballing here. Vote Sabriz!
vexille Solette Steel Society 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:58:36 - [255] - Quote I was looking into the name of the new sleepers. circadian definition: of or relating to biological processes that occur regularly at about 24-hour intervals, even in the absence of periodicity in the environment See also biological clock.. its basically a biological rhythm that operates on a 24 hour cycle and can do so without periodic stimulus like day/night cycle. so i hope this helps some of you figure things out.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1427	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:51:17 - [256] - Quote vexille Solette wrote: I was looking into the name of the new sleepers. circadian definition: of or relating to biological processes that occur regularly at about 24-hour intervals, even in the absence of periodicity in the environment See also biological clock.. its basically a biological rhythm that operates on a 24 hour cycle and can do so without periodic stimulus like day/night cycle. so i hope this helps some of you figure things out. Now that is interesting. (as I doubt that many planets in New Eden have a 24 hour day...) TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
vexille Solette Steel Society 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:55:22 - [257] - Quote Mabee its a hint that sleepers are closer to terrans then we know ;p
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 759	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:55:51 - [258] - Quote this is actually more incredible than I expected. The sleepers woke up and are about to wreck us, i can feel it. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
okst666 Bad Request 284	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:01:50 - [259] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: vexille Solette wrote: I was looking into the name of the new sleepers. circadian definition: of or relating to biological processes that occur regularly at about 24-hour intervals, even in the absence of periodicity in the environment See also biological clock.. its basically a biological rhythm that operates on a 24 hour cycle and can do so without periodic stimulus like day/night cycle. so i hope this helps some of you figure things out. Now that is interesting. (as I doubt that many planets in New Eden have a 24 hour day...) I rather think about a hint that those guys spawn every day sometime after downtime. btw... we shot on of them down in one of that sexy new t3 destroyers...piece of cake. Then we waited for about 30 minutes for another one, but nothing showed up. and that cloaky sparkling thingy is huuuuge. Ah and we found it in Hilmar (the system, not the CEO ;)) [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Extrems Tivianne Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:08:03 - [260] - Quote So I had a brainwave on a couple theories based on these unidentifed structures. Theory #1) These structures are in fact Isogen V or some other mineral in the EVE universe that will come into play. Either this mineral model has not been finished, explaining the texture work that someone posted a bit ago, or it is not "in phase" with the rest of the universe. The mineral has something to do with superweapons such as the one used by the Amarr, gates to new systems, or the Jove. This mechanic has something to do with the drones that are collecting the minerals, or they could be completely separate from the unidentified structures. Theory #2) These are a structure designed by a race, sleepers, Jove, or one of the past races in the eve lore. This has been substantiated by the large numbers of structures that have been found all over space. I personally have seen them in hisec, lowsec, nullsec, and in positions surrounding the new celestial in Jove Space and the eve gate. If the Jove or the sleepers are monitoring us, then the new roaming drones would make sense for an invasion or another incursion-like mechanic. Theory #3) Its related to the space time anomalies that could result in the new celestial in Jove space. If that's the case its possible that the future of eve could involve time travel. Just some thoughts.

okst666 Bad Request 284	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:18:04 - [261] - Quote well why not time travel..we even get manual controls.. next stop Riker maneuver... 1 activate gas cloud harvester 2 sharp left turn through the gas cloud on manual controls 3 release gas ... 5 profit no? awww [X] < Nail here for new monitor
vexille Solette Steel Society 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:37:29 - [262] - Quote my thing is isogen V is a Very rare rescource found only in systems wit ha blue type star. and i havn't read templar 1 in a while but if i remeber correctly the seyllin incident set of a chain reaction that destroyed most of theses depostis in these systems and started the phenomenon that caused wormholes to open thruought the universe.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26593	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:25:32 - [263] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Single Nightmare with 1800 per valley / 500 dps paper damage (EM BTW) applied from 96(graze) to 1531(hits) to 1917 (penetrates) of actual damage. So I think its BS guns signature resolution and tracking thing. They arent that tough at all ;) hey i think you're right. I seem to recall orbiting now. I wonder if this sleeper is always present somewhere in the system, warping from one entity to the next, scanning. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:30:39 - [264] - Quote Tried warp scrambling, heavy neuting, jamming Circadian Sleepers. Doesnt seem to bother, slow down or stop them. They just keep doing their thing. Scanning the structure, warp to customs office, scan there, repeatedly. Out of several times I tried to follow the Sleeper it didnt land at the office though, couldnt find at planet or moons, and there were no other objects to warp to in that direction. So there may be a bug, or it warps off somewhere else immediatly, cause it returns to the Structure site from another direction. If they are so interested in Customs Offices I thought it was worth a try to anchor an Office Gantry in the Unidentified Structure site. But they dont let to do it if you're in NPC corp like myself. If someone was so nice to try that... If its possible to anchor one without a planet. You cant place a Siphon without a Control Tower around. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5374	Posted - 2014.12.03 05:10:45 - [265] - Quote Have any of the Circadian Sleepers been seen at a station or stargate? How did the guns and patrol ships react? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2014.12.03 06:33:07 - [266] - Quote Did I say Nightmare? Several times too.... -___- I ment Phantasm, the Sansha cruiser. Cruiser kills cruiser. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1741	Posted - 2014.12.03 06:39:55 - [267] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Tried warp scrambling, heavy neuting, jamming Circadian Sleepers. Doesn't seem to bother, slow down or stop them. They just keep doing their thing. Scanning the structure, warp to customs office, scan there, repeatedly. Out of several times I tried to follow the Sleeper it didn't land at the office though, couldn't find at planet or moons, and there were no other objects to warp to in that direction. So there may be a bug, or it warps off somewhere else immediately, cause it returns to the Structure site from another direction. If they are so interested in Customs Offices I thought it was worth a try to anchor an Office Gantry in the Unidentified Structure site. But they don't let to do it if you're in NPC corp like myself. If someone was so nice to try that... If its possible to anchor one without a planet. You cant place a Siphon without a Control Tower around. NPC's are immune to things like scrams, as they don't actually warp/use MWD's and the like in the same manner as players do. Same for neuts, they have tiny cap but infinite regen to stop NOS abuse.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1429	Posted - 2014.12.03 06:51:21 - [268] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Siegfried Tahl wrote: Tried warp scrambling, heavy neuting, jamming Circadian Sleepers. Doesn't seem to bother, slow down or stop them. They just keep doing their thing. Scanning the structure, warp to customs office, scan there, repeatedly. Out of several times I tried to follow the Sleeper it didn't land at the office though, couldn't find at planet or moons, and there were no other objects to warp to in that direction. So there may be a bug, or it warps off somewhere else immediately, cause it returns to the Structure site from another direction. If they are so interested in Customs Offices I thought it was worth a try to anchor an Office Gantry in the Unidentified Structure site. But they don't let to do it if you're in NPC corp like myself. If someone was so nice to try that... If its possible to anchor one without a planet. You cant place a Siphon without a Control Tower around. NPC's are immune to things like scrams, as they don't actually warp/use MWD's and the like in the same manner as players do. Same for neuts, they have tiny cap but infinite regen to stop NOS abuse. no. sleepers are, not npcs in general TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 905	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:02:09 - [269] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Torgeir Hekard wrote: Heeey Giiiirls Look what i've accidentally on SiSi Wasn't that teh droids you were looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=araVBNq_XOw Siegfried Tahl wrote: Hot from Sisi Found an Unidentified Structure in Citadel > Ieyama > Hasama In the middle of a cloud, blurry with lightnings. http://i.imgur.com/63ucMu2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QotJGuT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EMMQw6k.jpg Ok, so now we know two locations of these structures: Aeter system in Solitude and Hasama system in Citadel.... Any more of these? Maybe something interesting about the systems themselves? Or their stars? (Seyllin Incident!) Hasama is an F0 white star. Aeter is a K3 yellow star. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Unezka Turigahl Det Som Engang Var 491	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:09:05 - [270] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Interesting note. It only has one visible turret http://i.imgur.com/x40HUN4.jpg maybe looks familiar to someone? Tho most likely its sleeper specific module. Looks like an ordinary heavy missile launcher.

Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2014.12.04 16:48:24 - [271] - Quote Update: Circadian Seekers now leave a wreck when popped. Sleeper Medium Advanced Wreck. Usual sleeper salvage. Been following 3x sleepers in the same system, they've been warping together to planets, to customs offices and to moons. Quote: Looks like an ordinary heavy missile launcher. Thank you for the info. So they're armed. Guess they will fight back after all. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
okst666 Bad Request 287	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:31:45 - [272] - Quote there are 5 circadian sleepers in Eram right now... scanning(or what ever they do) objects at Arek'Jaalan Site One. btw...the location is quite beautiful..looks really great. I'll post screenshots later. [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Miko Jin University of Caille Gallente Federation 128	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:51:27 - [273] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] You are a very naughty boy! Posting little hints.
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 906	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:52:04 - [274] - Quote List of systems with this structure found so far: Aeter Hasama Nakugard Sotrentaira Hikansog Salah Rokofur Colelie Balle Dousivitte Cherore Marosier Hilmar O-LR1H IG-4OF U-RELP L-Z9NB The star types are of a wide variety. I have the csv below for those that want it. Columns are itemName, itemType, solarSystemID, constellationID, and regionID. "O-LR1H - Star","8","30000309","20000044","10000003" "Sotrentaira - Star","7","30001369","20000200","10000016" "Nakugard - Star","3803","30002068","20000305","10000042" "Rokofur - Star","3800","30002534","20000371","10000030" "Balle - Star","7","30002634","20000386","10000032" "Augnais - Star","3802","30002680","20000392","10000032" "Colelie - Star","8","30002682","20000392","10000032" "Doussivitte - Star","3800","30002706","20000396","10000032" "Hasama - Star","10","30002758","20000404","10000033" "Cherore - Star","3798","30003019","20000442","10000037" "Marosier - Star","7","30003024","20000443","10000037" "IG-4OF - Star","6","30003203","20000467","10000040" "U-RELP - Star","6","30003240","20000473","10000040" "Aeter - Star","3802","30003585","20000522","10000044" "Hilmar - Star","3800","30004133","20000604","10000052" "Hikansog - Star","7","30004142","20000606","10000052" "Salah - Star","6","30004146","20000606","10000052" "L-Z9NB - Star","3799","30004203","20000615","10000053" I'm not seeing any kind of pattern here. Various star types, multiple finds in both regions and constellations. No preference for security level. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Maximillian Headroom Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.12.04 18:03:30 - [275] - Quote Soldarius wrote: List of systems with this structure found so far: Snipped for brevity I'm not seeing any kind of pattern here. Various star types, multiple finds in both regions and constellations. No preference for security level. Could be a connect the dots thing? If so, I would include the previous systems that went boom in that. Perhaps there is a symbol, or pattern that way. Just theorycrafting here.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2014.12.04 18:19:06 - [276] - Quote There are more, much much more. Me, I just stopped noting. 10-15+% of systems seem to have those thingies. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1141	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:35:06 - [277] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: There are more, much much more. Me, I just stopped noting. 10-15+% of systems seem to have those thingies. Darn.... Better hope it's not for an invasion, because if it is, then the Sleepers just caught us with our pants down..... Imagine finding hidden POS/Stations/Outposts in 10% of your sov space.... On the other side, being able to build so many of these large structures does indicate some extremely advanced sensor jamming equipment, or the structures are just very old and Caroline's Star/Bright Star disrupted their cloaks/sensor-jamming equipment. So, what are they for? The Achura, a history divided Ready yourself! The second Luminaire Snowball Fight is coming!
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 908	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:37:22 - [278] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: So, what are they for? That, my dear, is the million isk question. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Anslo Scope Works The Blacklist. 23577	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:46:11 - [279] - Quote That isn't a missile on its back friend. As you can see, that ** is everywhere, especially Site One. I said it before I'll say it again; Get your guns. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
kes88 Swords of Persephone 61	Posted - 2014.12.04 22:59:09 - [280] - Quote I have no idea what's going on, but it's pretty damn cool. Just a thought though - why would the sleepers be scanning these LCOs if they already knew what they were/what they did? Could it be that these objects are a threat to them or something? Or something they are trying to use/find out more about? Dunno. Too excited to think.

Anslo Scope Works The Blacklist. 23591	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:00:24 - [281] - Quote Meanwhile on reddit [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5388	Posted - 2014.12.04 23:18:00 - [282] - Quote I don't think it's a missile launcher but merely the turret with which the scanning effect is projected, much like a salvager or tractor beam. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1634	Posted - 2014.12.05 13:44:04 - [283] - Quote Radax Glenn wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: I'm also very interested in what the SoE and The Sanctuary have to do with all of this. There is way more to them than what meets the eye. Agreed on this specifically. A few years ago When I read the "Burning Life", I was constantly thinking to myself: The Sisters of EVE oppose capsuleers on an almost fanatical level. They do a great job of hiding behind their humanitarian efforts, but I've long suspected that we will be seeing more aggressive moves from them. I wouldn't be surprised that a high SOE standing in game will be a gateway for interacting with Sleeper factions in the future. Just pure speculation from the canon I've read. (or rather my interpretations.) Sisters Of EVE go full Sisters Of Battle with lasers burning the fury of hell into their enemies
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5399	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:14:19 - [284] - Quote From the latest devblog: Zakari Kovalis, Exploration Vessel Katydid, Log Entry YC112.09.23 wrote: Completed south polar sweep, concluding first survey of the eighth planet. All told this is a fine example of a temperate body and should make a good colonization target. The Sanctuary planners were hoping for a stable terrestrial, with surface conditions a secondary consideration. A barren or even an ice planet would have been viable. The working plan calls for an underground colony regardless. I've made sure to prioritize initial processing and flagging of the geological data while surveying this planet. Guess stations in Thera are not the only permanent settlement they are planning. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Nyphur Pillowsoft 26	Posted - 2014.12.05 15:21:05 - [285] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: From the latest devblog: Zakari Kovalis, Exploration Vessel Katydid, Log Entry YC112.09.23 wrote: Completed south polar sweep, concluding first survey of the eighth planet. All told this is a fine example of a temperate body and should make a good colonization target. The Sanctuary planners were hoping for a stable terrestrial, with surface conditions a secondary consideration. A barren or even an ice planet would have been viable. The working plan calls for an underground colony regardless. I've made sure to prioritize initial processing and flagging of the geological data while surveying this planet. Guess stations in Thera are not the only permanent settlement they are planning. This new log is dated four years ago, so it's the next step in the story of Thera's colonisation. Looks like SOE needed to create an underground colony on one of the planets for some reason, and it required geological scans. My best guess is they were starting up a mining operation in order to build the stations etc in the system without shipping anything in, which would help them stay hidden. The alternative is that they needed somewhere safe from the unstable star's radiation and an underground colony makes the most sense.
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26693	Posted - 2014.12.05 16:09:13 - [286] - Quote those sisters of EVE are ryde or die. not many people know that. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5402	Posted - 2014.12.05 16:15:11 - [287] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: ryde or die Do I understand that correctly as "My way or the clone bay"? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Aurelius Valentius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2014.12.05 17:26:56 - [288] - Quote --has made me realize that something enormous is underway. It's called marketing, and it happens all the time on Television, much like exploding penguins and spam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1ccguXiws
Kara Jordan Bad Request 7	Posted - 2014.12.05 17:40:20 - [289] - Quote Quote: Sound environment for Cloaked Jove outpost http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-rhea
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2014.12.06 11:53:54 - [290] - Quote Anyone else explores Unidentified Stucture and Circadian Seeker Sleepers? What's the news? Quote: Patch notes for Rhea 1.0 Release on Tuesday December 9, 2014 Audio: ... Sound environment for a cloaked structure Sounds for new sleeper scout drone ... Exploration: Scanners are now detecting Unidentified Sites throughout New Eden; we have nothing on record about the contents within... Missions & NPCs: New sleeper scout drone, the Circadian Seeker, can be found roaming known space The Circadian Seeker NPC has multiple action states, based upon an improved AI... The Structure seems completly passive. Sleepers warp around the system 'scanning' things, prefer the Structure and customs offices. Go in group from 1 to 5. They now leave empty wreck. Still dont shoot back, flee, call backup, or react at all. Looks like they have 2 heavy missile launchers or their 'scanner' thing has launchers model. You cant neut, jam, dampen, data/relic analyze, scram them, so I dont know how to make them show their 'multiple action states'. Lets discuss Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26698	Posted - 2014.12.06 15:07:05 - [291] - Quote I would definitely evacuate anything I had in those sleeper systems. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 960	Posted - 2014.12.06 18:35:33 - [292] - Quote I really wonder if these will be part of occupancy based sov. It feels like an invasion, or I suppose in actuality a retaliation for being invaded since they were here first. I wonder if they will become hostile the longer they are left alone. To the point of maybe even destroying player outposts, and stargates, isolating systems, and forcing people to live there to defend all of these things, or mount an assault to reclaim, and rebuild. Maybe. I think that would be cool. It practically writes itself.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1147	Posted - 2014.12.06 23:20:45 - [293] - Quote On the patch notes, originally, the cloaked structures where referred to as 'Jove Outposts' before CCP rephrased it, possible hint? The second Origin Landfall Festival Ready yourself! The second Luminaire Snowball Fight is coming!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 13428	Posted - 2014.12.06 23:23:58 - [294] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: On the patch notes, originally, the cloaked structures where referred to as 'Jove Outposts' before CCP rephrased it, possible hint? On another note, do station/gate guns react on Sleeper Ships (the Circadian ones) react if they visit gates/stations & scan them? (if they visit those places) Shhhhh- it's , more fun when it's a secret! And I'm in an encounter with the circadians- they give a weird digital effect to your hull when they scan you A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 13428	Posted - 2014.12.06 23:32:00 - [295] - Quote But yeah, they fixed it VERY QUICKLY. I'm pretty excited because of it- the fact that it was in there at all is very significant. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Sohl Ni-Zha Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative 25	Posted - 2014.12.07 01:59:22 - [296] - Quote Time to create a sect devoted to Second Coming of Sleeping People, Ones That Bare Gifts (hopefully some new drugs). delivering. drugs. -áIG channel: Narcotics
Nishachara Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly. 9	Posted - 2014.12.07 13:21:21 - [297] - Quote Is it my imagination or does outline of that cloaked structure in many pics here resemble the structure in the begining of that storyline eve trailer we had last ? ( the one with the gate activating and the heretics who had constructed it...etc )
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 177	Posted - 2014.12.07 15:23:25 - [298] - Quote Nishachara wrote: Is it my imagination or does outline of that cloaked structure in many pics here resemble the structure in the begining of that storyline eve trailer we had last ? ( the one with the gate activating and the heretics who had constructed it...etc ) We already know it's a crystalline looking structure from looking at it's model in the game files.
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1452	Posted - 2014.12.07 15:32:51 - [299] - Quote Has anyone ever tried to have some blue loot in their cargohold for when the circadian sleepers scan you? Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2014.12.07 16:41:35 - [300] - Quote Yes i did. Bought each sample of sleeper blue loot, and sansha dogtags too just in case. Didnt make a difference. Pew-pewed them alittle to attract attention, they scanned me, nothing. Thought there could be something in sansha incursion constellations (or some clues to find in Oasa-Cobalt border, tho it maybe too late). http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-report-on-nation-activity/ Anyway, visited 4 incursion constellations. There were no Unidentified Structures in 3 of them, but I think their absence is just a coincidence, cause there is one for xmpl in Black Rise > Inolari > Raihbaka. And the site doesnt look any different. Sleepers behave the same. They even peacefully hang out with Sanshas in belts. http://i.imgur.com/i6n7B6G.jpg So I think they are either incomplete yet, mechanics not fully implemented, or we should look better for ways to wake them up. One more thing I'm gonna try. You have to decloak some cans in the new Standard Sleeper Cache site by flying into them. That may be the case here too. Maybe there is something to decloak in the cloud around the Structure. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 13432	Posted - 2014.12.07 16:41:54 - [301] - Quote Altrue wrote: Has anyone ever tried to have some blue loot in their cargohold for when the circadian sleepers scan you? Someone should- and someone should also grab the Jovian body parts and see if they react to that somehow- anything's possible- these drones have interesting AI A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Nishachara Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly. 10	Posted - 2014.12.07 19:18:53 - [302] - Quote That circadian sleepers scan your ship right, if i read correctly i think someone mentioned that ? has anyone apporached it with a t3 ship ( which has somewhat sleeper componetns in it ) ? Because t3 cruisers ( and t3 destroyers i presume if they will be made along the same lines as cruisers, needing sleeper salvage parts for production ) are basically made from the remains of killed sleeper ships and stolen stuff from their space. If they scan your ship it would be logical that they react to finding that you fly stolen property from their dead brethren.
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1453	Posted - 2014.12.07 21:11:26 - [303] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: On another note, do station/gate guns react on Sleeper Ships (the Circadian ones) if they visit gates/stations & scan them? (if they visit those places) Saw them on a regional stargate, they were scanning the stargate but the gate guns weren't attacking. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1453	Posted - 2014.12.07 21:26:01 - [304] - Quote Nishachara wrote: That circadian sleepers scan your ship right, if i read correctly i think someone mentioned that ? has anyone apporached it with a t3 ship ( which has somewhat sleeper componetns in it ) ? I'm on it! Give me time, I need them to warp to an empty moon, so that they have no choice but to scan my ship. (That's the only occasion where I saw them scan me) EDIT: Fun fact (or valuable intel?), rapid lights with auto targeting missiles don't work on them. "No suitable target in range". EDIT 2: Nothing happened :( EDIT 3: Actually, I might have activated their mating protocols... EDIT 4: It just scanned me AND at the same time scanned the jovian structure. I didn't know they could do that. Two scans at the same time. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 431	Posted - 2014.12.08 03:30:30 - [305] - Quote Are we still waiting on the dev blog for these Sleepers in k-space? I know we had the one for the Sleeper Cache's, but I thought there was supposed to be one about the random encounters. The hell man. Rhea releases in like five minutes. Vote Sabriz!
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2014.12.08 06:00:37 - [306] - Quote NEW HOT STUFF!!! Circadian Seeker's beam is non-targeted thing, so one can cloak if 'scanned', and if one does that, then the Sleeper hangs up, stops scanning, stops orbiting, turns off its engines. Hangs in there for several minutes before it turns on and starts doing it's thing again, like warp around scanning stuff. Think its time to do something unnatural with it. http://i.imgur.com/VJePnSd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bL7snEa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1wCwhx3.jpg Data/relic hack still dont work, will try other mods on them in turned off state. Ship scan still hangs if used on them, unlocks if you fly far enough. Shows no mods in result, but 750/750 GJ power. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1453	Posted - 2014.12.08 08:12:58 - [307] - Quote The "hang" state was also triggered for one of the four sleepers when the other two decided to mate (cf my post at the top of this page), just sayin', we could also dig on this side In all seriousness though, so far I fail to see this advanced AI. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7263	Posted - 2014.12.08 10:53:27 - [308] - Quote If its a seeker, than it seeks, probably for something unusual or useful for it. What can be useful for a drone that seeks something unusual? What unusual thing you can think about? Something rare. Parts of Jovians? Rare Jovian ships? We have only parts of Jove body scattered in EVE. I did not see a Jove ship in anyones hangar for now. Only SoCT battlecruisers and shuttles. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 913	Posted - 2014.12.08 16:23:57 - [309] - Quote Didn't one person report that after destroying a Circadian Sleeper that had just scanned a POCO, he found PI (Aqueous Liquids) in the wreck? Try getting scanned with some of that in your hold. Maybe they will take it (transporter tech?). http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:08:35 - [310] - Quote seekers scan our ships and technology in preparation for an invasion stockpile on polarized guns guys

Arla Sarain 172	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:22:00 - [311] - Quote Jovian Disease wrote: seekers scan our ships and technology in preparation for an invasion stockpile on polarized guns guys Negative, stock up on Caldari Navy Iron ammo. Lowest price in Jita 1200isk/per. Doubt there is any trick. Just wait for CCP to flip the switch.
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:38:06 - [312] - Quote i don-¦t think that polarized guns were introduced the same time with sleepers in k space with no reason at all
Meiyang Lee Game Instrument Applications 63	Posted - 2014.12.08 19:22:34 - [313] - Quote Arla Sarain wrote: Jovian Disease wrote: seekers scan our ships and technology in preparation for an invasion stockpile on polarized guns guys Negative, stock up on Caldari Navy Iron ammo. Lowest price in Jita 1200isk/per. Doubt there is any trick. Just wait for CCP to flip the switch. Why CN Iron specifically?
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1454	Posted - 2014.12.08 19:25:18 - [314] - Quote And getting scanned with polarized guns, did anyone try this? Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.08 20:20:31 - [315] - Quote Altrue wrote: And getting scanned with polarized guns, did anyone try this? nope but i have a suspicion that you get imune to scanning
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:49:35 - [316] - Quote Interesting. You can now web and scram Circadians, think ECMs, dampeners and other stuff should work too. Ship scanner doesnt hang up when used on them, so it got fixed. Shows no modules, 725/725 GJ. And I'm pretty sure on TQ they gonna fight back. Or even attack. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.09 07:38:41 - [317] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: And I'm pretty sure on TQ they gonna fight back. Or even attack. Cool
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26853	Posted - 2014.12.09 07:47:05 - [318] - Quote i doubt the attacking part of these circadian sleepers. the way they vanish into a puff of dust suggests they're here for observation only. there may be a cataclysmic event later, or an invasion, but I don't see it being carried out by circadians. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:45:16 - [319] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: i doubt the attacking part of these circadian sleepers. the way they vanish into a puff of dust suggests they're here for observation only. there may be a cataclysmic event later, or an invasion, but I don't see it being carried out by circadians. oh they don-¦t dissapear into a puff they warp to another celestial when you see some of them wait untill they warp and look in wich direction then go there you will find them at stargates , stations , poco , pos and beacons i don-¦t know yet if they show up in belts i found some of them at site one in eram edit: they are for observation, they scann everything
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26854	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:46:26 - [320] - Quote When you kill them, they vanish into a puff of dust. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|

Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:48:18 - [321] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: When you kill them, they vanish into a puff of dust. sorry killing was not specified in previous post confusion emerged PS they spawn at belts : http://i.imgur.com/C9UrQiy.jpg
Kara Jordan Bad Request 7	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:54:08 - [322] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: When you kill them, they vanish into a puff of dust. when I tested killing them, nothing was left when they blew up. But some days later someone stated that they now leave a wreck. edit: found it https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5271083#post5271083
Jovian Disease Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.12.09 11:01:05 - [323] - Quote Kara Jordan wrote: Rain6637 wrote: When you kill them, they vanish into a puff of dust. when I tested killing them, nothing was left when they blew up. But some days later someone stated that they now leave a wreck. edit: found it https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5271083#post5271083 allways empty wreck salvage iyelds only metal scraps
Shun Makoto Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 50	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:43:51 - [324] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: i doubt the attacking part of these circadian sleepers. the way they vanish into a puff of dust suggests they're here for observation only. there may be a cataclysmic event later, or an invasion, but I don't see it being carried out by circadians. They are equiped with a missile launcher if you look close enough. Caldari Independant Navy Reserve Fourth District Patriot Faction Former 22nd BRDU - Retired Milita Wing Commander
Aerios Spiritus Sapphire Roughneck's Industry Corus Conglomerate 2	Posted - 2014.12.10 07:18:40 - [325] - Quote If the Sleepers and the Jovians are now working together, that explains why the Circadian Seekers are now using Shield technology.
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 134	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:07:11 - [326] - Quote What if Circadian Seekers are not looking for anything but scouting our space. As first stadium for invasion or exodus from wormholes. Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears. I am the night. I'm Bantam. More exploration in exploration
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 28557	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:09:43 - [327] - Quote some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems epicenter 1 epicenter 2 epicenter with white sun shattered planet 1 shattered planet 2 white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was sleepers were just your normal sleepers that you find in wormholes could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2 you can not view planets in planet mode i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26920	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:33:28 - [328] - Quote Shun Makoto wrote: Rain6637 wrote: i doubt the attacking part of these circadian sleepers. the way they vanish into a puff of dust suggests they're here for observation only. there may be a cataclysmic event later, or an invasion, but I don't see it being carried out by circadians. They are equiped with a missile launcher if you look close enough. I'm breaking the bounds of RP by making this point, but basically sleepers are probably locked into a behavior type by name (sleepless guardian etc), so I'm thinking if there's a sleeper attacking force, it will be comprised of the ones we're used to seeing in combat sites. I'm guessing that circadian sleepers are going to remain this roaming investigative type of AI. I could be wrong, but there are certainly deadlier sleepers with combat AI already in place. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1430	Posted - 2014.12.10 10:56:11 - [329] - Quote Regarding the epicentre in the shattered holes, can anyone confirm that we are seeing 5 wormholes that are too dangerous to enter in each one? Coincidence? There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Solj RichPopolous Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 98	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:34:40 - [330] - Quote If sleepers invade it would seem most logical for them to place all their combat ships on the jita, amarr, dodi, and rens undocks. Yes?

Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5465	Posted - 2014.12.10 15:42:45 - [331] - Quote Solj RichPopolous wrote: If sleepers invade it would seem most logical for them to place all their combat ships on the jita, amarr, dodi, and rens undocks. Yes? I'd infiltrate the Stargate control and shut down all FTL communications, including clone infomorph transfers. Permadeath here I come. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Vaporizer McGhee Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 1	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:20:42 - [332] - Quote mr ed thehouseofed wrote: some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems epicenter 1 epicenter 2 epicenter with white sun shattered planet 1 shattered planet 2 white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2 you can not view planets in planet mode In each of these pictures, the 5 wormholes have the same layout as the orbs on the circadian sleepers. Circadian Sleeper
Jerry T Pepridge Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC. 212	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:00:08 - [333] - Quote Was idling at a 0.6 stargate last night Saw 4 Cruiser sized "sleepers" come to the gate. I didnt target one. It seemed to have a White beam coming from it to a Customs agent Frigate that was nearby, then after a minute they vanished.
Mistah Ewedynao Ice Axe Psycho Killers 572	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:20:35 - [334] - Quote Hra Neuvosto wrote: Did Jovians all the plexes? Nope. That WAS CCP. Seems like even they backed off at these prices at the last real money sale. Nerf Goons Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
mr ed thehouseofed Wrought iron Industries 28746	Posted - 2014.12.11 01:46:04 - [335] - Quote Vaporizer McGhee wrote: mr ed thehouseofed wrote: some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems epicenter 1 epicenter 2 epicenter with white sun shattered planet 1 shattered planet 2 white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2 you can not view planets in planet mode In each of these pictures, the 5 wormholes have the same layout as the orbs on the circadian sleepers. Circadian Sleeper Maybe it means nothing, but maybe it means everything. hmm thats interesting , the plot thickens i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
okst666 Bad Request 291	Posted - 2014.12.11 10:33:55 - [336] - Quote HOLY COW....HOLY COW indeed http://imgur.com/a/PR8T4 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2oyal8/j005299_album_documentation_occupied_by_sansha/ [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Aiyshimin Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 206	Posted - 2014.12.11 10:49:38 - [337] - Quote okst666 wrote: HOLY COW....HOLY COW indeed http://imgur.com/a/PR8T4 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2oyal8/j005299_album_documentation_occupied_by_sansha/ just... wow :o
Speedy Conzollis Only Fools and Horses 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 12:12:26 - [338] - Quote No, No, No. You have all got it wrong. The cloaked station is in fact Santa's grotto, its time/space device is malfunctioning. Its how he is able to deliver presents to everyone in New Eden in one night, the grotto is in every system at the same time. All of those that killed Santa's little helpers are going to be so disappointed this year, no presents for you! /grabs coat and heads for the airlock
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 449	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:30:14 - [339] - Quote okst666 wrote: HOLY COW....HOLY COW indeed http://imgur.com/a/PR8T4 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2oyal8/j005299_album_documentation_occupied_by_sansha/ Sansha baby....so hurry down the wormhole tonight... Vote Sabriz!
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7316	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:43:35 - [340] - Quote Maybe Sleeper - Sansha conflict provoked the "Caroline's star incident". Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.

Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7316	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:46:03 - [341] - Quote Vaporizer McGhee wrote: mr ed thehouseofed wrote: some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems epicenter 1 epicenter 2 epicenter with white sun shattered planet 1 shattered planet 2 white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2 you can not view planets in planet mode In each of these pictures, the 5 wormholes have the same layout as the orbs on the circadian sleepers. Circadian Sleeper Maybe it means nothing, but maybe it means everything. Wormhole Generator, like Sansha have. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Trin Javidan Caymen Labs 55	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:14:49 - [342] - Quote If you have Sansha tags in your cargo, when the Circadian Sleeper scans you, the sleeper drops a cargo container containing the sleeper salvage that sells at buyorders!!! I got 25 mil from a diamond tag!!!!
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 923	Posted - 2014.12.11 15:20:00 - [343] - Quote Trin Javidan wrote: If you have Sansha tags in your cargo, when the Circadian Sleeper scans you, the sleeper drops a cargo container containing the sleeper salvage that sells at buyorders!!! I got 25 mil from a diamond tag!!!! pics or gtfo http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7318	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:01:17 - [344] - Quote Trin Javidan wrote: If you have Sansha tags in your cargo, when the Circadian Sleeper scans you, the sleeper drops a cargo container containing the sleeper salvage that sells at buyorders!!! I got 25 mil from a diamond tag!!!! Can be, as a means of gratitude. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
okst666 Bad Request 291	Posted - 2014.12.11 16:42:50 - [345] - Quote sansha tags did nothing. I went to Hilmar.. there is an unindentified structure and close to the sun is a wormhole.. J012735... a brand new shattered wormhole system.. I'll fly around and look whats going on here... oh phobos... [X] < Nail here for new monitor
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2014.12.11 17:12:56 - [346] - Quote I have found Talocan Embarkment Destroyer wreckage under Large Collidabe Objects in one of those Epicenters, among other objects. Anyone found same thing inside other shattered wormholes so far? "Despite its incapacitated status, the wreckage looks sturdy enough to be rebuilt; perhaps its appearance is merely a ruse, a trap set long ago by a dead civilization. Regardless, caution is recommended."
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 449	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:13:12 - [347] - Quote So maybe the static exits for the shattered wormholes are the US systems. Instead of a static to a certain type of system (highsec, lowsec, etc), the exits are a certain network of systems that can be any type of k-space. Say "Shattered Hole X" has two static exits. One day those exits are a high sec and a null sec, next day it's two low sec exits, day after that it's a low and a null, etc. Would that be a thing the devs could pull off with too much headache in the coding? Vote Sabriz!
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7319	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:15:42 - [348] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: I have found Talocan Embarkment Destroyer wreckage under Large Collidabe Objects in one of those Epicenters, among other objects. Anyone found same thing inside other shattered wormholes so far? "Despite its incapacitated status, the wreckage looks sturdy enough to be rebuilt; perhaps its appearance is merely a ruse, a trap set long ago by a dead civilization. Regardless, caution is recommended." Edit for some sreenshots : Talocan Destroyer Talocan ships made operative? Don't tease us. And what dead civilization, it doesn't mean they are dead if we didn't see one of them for now, they can be elsewhere. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Patrick Berlin Oruze Cruise 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:27:48 - [349] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: I have found Talocan Embarkment Destroyer wreckage under Large Collidabe Objects in one of those Epicenters, among other objects. Anyone found same thing inside other shattered wormholes so far? "Despite its incapacitated status, the wreckage looks sturdy enough to be rebuilt; perhaps its appearance is merely a ruse, a trap set long ago by a dead civilization. Regardless, caution is recommended." Edit for some sreenshots : Talocan Destroyer Looks a similar shape to the new Ammar T3 Destroyer at the rear with the engine section? pewpew
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 923	Posted - 2014.12.11 18:40:59 - [350] - Quote Time to bust out ye ol' Stratios and go exploring me thinks. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Solvay Moss Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:08:21 - [351] - Quote Here's what goes on inside a scanning sleeper ship... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLoc6FrLi0
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 450	Posted - 2014.12.11 19:43:54 - [352] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Time to bust out ye ol' Stratios and go exploring me thinks. Yeah, think I'm gonna get real cozy in my Astero this weekend. Vote Sabriz!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1155	Posted - 2014.12.14 16:47:46 - [353] - Quote So, any new info on the cloaked structures that popped up everywhere? One appeared close to the station I use to collect my civilians for the Arcology project, so it has me kinda freaked out Strange structures and mysterious Sleepers appear all over New Eden! Ready yourself! The second Snowball Fight is coming!
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 225	Posted - 2014.12.14 16:50:19 - [354] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: So, any new info on the cloaked structures that popped up everywhere? One appeared close to the station I use to collect my civilians for the Arcology project, so it has me kinda freaked out Have you tried sacrificing a few?
Erin Crawford 377	Posted - 2014.12.14 18:52:45 - [355] - Quote uh-oh!
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 468	Posted - 2014.12.14 19:24:08 - [356] - Quote Erin Crawford wrote: uh-oh! That's what happens when ink pens fight back. Vote Sabriz!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1155	Posted - 2014.12.14 23:01:25 - [357] - Quote Sol Project wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: So, any new info on the cloaked structures that popped up everywhere? One appeared close to the station I use to collect my civilians for the Arcology project, so it has me kinda freaked out Have you tried sacrificing a few? I actually paraded with a variety of civilians around the Circadian Seekers & the cloaked structures, no response tho. Unknown Structure appears close to the Aurora Arcology Station! Ready yourself! The second Luminaire Snowball Fight is coming!
Sol Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 234	Posted - 2014.12.14 23:06:28 - [358] - Quote Erin Crawford wrote: uh-oh! Usually happens when there's lack of free RAM.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2014.12.15 02:42:59 - [359] - Quote The sky inside violent wormholes. Seems to be the same for every Epicenter site I came across, Thera and 5-6 Shattered Wormhiles. Does anyone recognize this? Nebula on the left and arm of the galaxy on the right, I thought of Stain (Sansha NPC region) at first, but the nebula seems different. A ring shaped object may be a part of the sky too, but may be an object in a system or something. Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 212	Posted - 2014.12.15 03:56:28 - [360] - Quote I saw a sleeper drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 13904	Posted - 2014.12.15 04:10:10 - [361] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: The sky inside violent wormholes. Seems to be the same for every Epicenter site I came across, Thera and 5-6 Shattered Wormhiles. Does anyone recognize this? Nebula on the left and arm of the galaxy on the right, I thought of Stain (Sansha NPC region) at first, but the nebula seems different. A ring shaped object may be a part of the sky too, but may be an object in a system or something. I don't know if it's still like this, but the last time I looked at one of those and went to the total center of the hole, I zoomed in completely on my ship and looked around from the inside - I could see every nebula in k-space depending on which direction I was looking. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Torgeir Hekard I MYSELF AND ME 102	Posted - 2014.12.15 07:55:19 - [362] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: The sky inside violent wormholes. Seems to be the same for every Epicenter site I came across, Thera and 5-6 Shattered Wormhiles. Does anyone recognize this? Nebula on the left and arm of the galaxy on the right, I thought of Stain (Sansha NPC region) at first, but the nebula seems different. A ring shaped object may be a part of the sky too, but may be an object in a system or something. Been discussed somewhere already. The blue one is the Lonetrek nebula, the ring is the, duh, cloud ring. Which puts the location somewhere Pure Blind-ish. Or Fade. Also I hear it's the same as the sansha wormhole in Promised Land.
Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2014.12.16 08:40:53 - [363] - Quote Its definetly Pure Blind region, it is the sky from Violent Wormholes in Epicenters. No Blue nebula in Fade yet. Inside the ring shape in Outer Ring. So I intend checking Pure Blind for some new celestials, unique WHs, A009 maybe (a wild guess on that), abnormal sleepers behavior, Unidentified Structures in 5 adjacent systems matching 5 violent wormholes... Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1444	Posted - 2014.12.16 08:43:09 - [364] - Quote Siegfried Tahl wrote: Its definetly Pure Blind region, it is the sky from Violent Wormholes in Epicenters. No Blue nebula in Fade yet. Inside the ring shape in Outer Ring. So I intend checking Pure Blind for some new celestials, unique WHs, A009 maybe (a wild guess on that), abnormal sleepers behavior, Unidentified Structures in 5 adjacent systems matching 5 violent wormholes... So Unidentified structures could be gravitational anchors for violent wormholes...is that what you are suggesting? TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent 932	Posted - 2014.12.16 18:52:45 - [365] - Quote Torgeir Hekard wrote: Siegfried Tahl wrote: The sky inside violent wormholes. Seems to be the same for every Epicenter site I came across, Thera and 5-6 Shattered Wormhiles. Does anyone recognize this? Nebula on the left and arm of the galaxy on the right, I thought of Stain (Sansha NPC region) at first, but the nebula seems different. A ring shaped object may be a part of the sky too, but may be an object in a system or something. Been discussed somewhere already. The blue one is the Lonetrek nebula, the ring is the, duh, cloud ring. Which puts the location somewhere Pure Blind-ish. Or Fade. Also I hear it's the same as the sansha wormhole in Promised Land. http://www.tigerears.org/2013/09/17/new-eden-wormhole-colours/#newc-pureblind Pure Blind for sure. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2395	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:15:48 - [366] - Quote Harrison Tato wrote: I saw a sleeper drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect. Okay, first of all..... just, yes. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7394	Posted - 2014.12.18 21:37:19 - [367] - Quote After half a day following the seekers, I have just started scanning everything myself. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Amarrian Tibor Shirak SkunkWorks 12	Posted - 2014.12.19 13:35:43 - [368] - Quote Okey, this is akward. I just warped to one of my dock spot at a station and I recently saw sleepers scanning a jove occupied station Picture: http://prntscr.com/5ik8u4 (taken with lightshot) After I undocked they were disappered allready. I feel like we gona fight next with either the joves or sleepers for holding the Amarr-Matar faction warefare lowsec
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7410	Posted - 2014.12.19 14:18:25 - [369] - Quote Amarrian Tibor wrote: Okey, this is akward. I just warped to one of my dock spot at a station and I recently saw sleepers scanning a jove occupied station Picture: http://prntscr.com/5ik8u4 (taken with lightshot) After I undocked they were disappered allready. I feel like we gona fight next with either the joves or sleepers for holding the Amarr-Matar faction warefare lowsec BONUS ROUND!! Amarr vs Sleepers Fight! Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5542	Posted - 2014.12.19 14:27:41 - [370] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Pure Blind for sure. That's where both Mordus and Sanctuary have their home stations. I guess we can suspect who caused the damn event. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics

Siegfried Tahl Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 123	Posted - 2014.12.19 18:20:32 - [371] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=392163&find=unread Beginning to doubt if there's a thing at all out there. Or some mechanics, sleeper behavior, new celestials, structures, events like sleeper incursions etc... are missing, will be added later, and theres nothing to be found just yet. This though. Or was it solved? 001-323 old normal wh constellations G-C00324 Thera A-C00325 Shattered constellations B-C00326 C-C00327 D-C00328 E-C00329 F-C00330 H-C00331 Frig sized constellations H-C00332 H-C00333 Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. Two Rogue Drone Mothers
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7453	Posted - 2014.12.21 13:26:20 - [372] - Quote Is it common sight when you see 5 Circadian Seekers at the gate, scanning everyone ? Sleeper Gank? Ebidan, gate to Mabnen, today, few minutes ago.. Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
Karl Jerr Herzack Unit 69	Posted - 2014.12.21 14:52:37 - [373] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: Is it common sight when you see 5 Circadian Seekers at the gate, scanning everyone ? Sleeper Gank? Ebidan, gate to Mabnen, today, few minutes ago.. I seen a group of them at a gate in Lowsec Genesis, they even began to scan my BR the seconds before it jumped into the gate.
RazorDreamz Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous 4	Posted - 2014.12.21 16:03:56 - [374] - Quote For those that haven't seen the cloaked objects yet I did a quick video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlxXrhrmmBc&feature=youtu.be At times you can see the outline fairly good. Also noticed that I couldn't cloak while right next to it.
RazorDreamz Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous 4	Posted - 2014.12.21 16:05:57 - [375] - Quote Karl Jerr wrote: Bagrat Skalski wrote: Is it common sight when you see 5 Circadian Seekers at the gate, scanning everyone ? Sleeper Gank? Ebidan, gate to Mabnen, today, few minutes ago.. I seen a group of them at a gate in Lowsec Genesis, they even began to scan my BR the seconds before it jumped into the gate. I also found them at New Eden system right on the gate.
Generaloberst Kluntz Isogen 5 21	Posted - 2014.12.21 18:14:15 - [376] - Quote The Other is in fact trying to reconstruct New Eden wormhole aka EvE Gate in order to go back to Earth. The empress is the greatest person in New eden now guess I'll make a Corp Jamil's vassals or smth
Nevase Prometeus University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.12.21 20:34:52 - [377] - Quote I'm not worry about Jove , Sleepers or "others" invasion as long as Concord stand in our side,is it ? One thing I would like to see is ship with very different from ours like hybrid ship between Mechanic and living creatures. Ship that does not have any weapons but they can fly faster than any MWD we use and when they made contact with our ship.We die as they consume our ship and reproduct themselves. That should by scary and fun. I'll wait for what ever CCP will bring to us.
d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies Apocalypse Now. 16	Posted - 2014.12.21 23:50:18 - [378] - Quote Nevase Prometeus wrote: I'm not worry about Jove , Sleepers or "others" invasion as long as Concord stand in our side,is it ? One thing I would like to see is ship with very different from ours like hybrid ship between Mechanic and living creatures. Ship that does not have any weapons but they can fly faster than any MWD we use and when they made contact with our ship.We die as they consume our ship and reproduct themselves. That should by scary and fun. I'll wait for what ever CCP will bring to us. Pretty sure a Jove ship > Concord ship...
Allant Doran Exile. 17	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:52:40 - [379] - Quote d0cTeR9 wrote: Nevase Prometeus wrote: I'm not worry about Jove , Sleepers or "others" invasion as long as Concord stand in our side,is it ? One thing I would like to see is ship with very different from ours like hybrid ship between Mechanic and living creatures. Ship that does not have any weapons but they can fly faster than any MWD we use and when they made contact with our ship.We die as they consume our ship and reproduct themselves. That should by scary and fun. I'll wait for what ever CCP will bring to us. Pretty sure a Jove ship > Concord ship... Yeah. Isn't there a story somewhere about a fleet of Jovian Frigates that took on a Battleship fleet much bigger than it and won?
Corr Armageddon Royal Alans Photonautics Engineers 0	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:58:19 - [380] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: d0cTeR9 wrote: Nevase Prometeus wrote: I'm not worry about Jove , Sleepers or "others" invasion as long as Concord stand in our side,is it ? One thing I would like to see is ship with very different from ours like hybrid ship between Mechanic and living creatures. Ship that does not have any weapons but they can fly faster than any MWD we use and when they made contact with our ship.We die as they consume our ship and reproduct themselves. That should by scary and fun. I'll wait for what ever CCP will bring to us. Pretty sure a Jove ship > Concord ship... Yeah. Isn't there a story somewhere about a fleet of Jovian Frigates that took on a Battleship fleet much bigger than it and won? Eh the Mothership did all the real damage. http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-battle-of-vakatioth/

Allant Doran Exile. 17	Posted - 2014.12.22 01:59:54 - [381] - Quote Corr Armageddon wrote: Eh the Mothership did all the real damage. http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-battle-of-vakatioth/ Ahh, hahaha. I forgot the real component it seems xD
Oriki Hinken Local.Spike. Guardians of the Morrigan 1	Posted - 2015.01.11 19:04:17 - [382] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Soldarius wrote: Pure Blind for sure. That's where both Mordus and Sanctuary have their home stations. I guess we can suspect who caused the damn event. Or at the very least how they got to Thera first
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1247	Posted - 2015.01.13 13:02:56 - [383] - Quote Well, while the unidentified structures apparently didn't change after the patch, the Circadian seekers definitely did! Now they respond to attacks & even pod people (if you give them the time to do it! They don't disrupt your warpdrives). You can read about it in my most recent publication 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!' Did put an emphasis into the podding, as that is very unique behaviour. No known NPC entity does this on purpose (there's a few AOE damage events, only stuff I know that could pod outside direct player attacks) For now, we do seem to miss something in order to progress the story on our side. Maybe some hidden clue lies in the new shattered wormholes regarding the link to the Seekers, Sleepers & the unidentified strucures (look for a structure with similar appearance?) Or maybe the newly released Superior Sleeper cache sites one can find (in low? Null) might have some clues in the form of descriptions, structures or odd loot? I do wonder where it'll all lead towards... Aurora Arcology still under lockdown Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 13862	Posted - 2015.01.13 13:39:28 - [384] - Quote a wormhole to the future! and possibly the deaths of afk'ers at high-sec gates. GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 670	Posted - 2015.01.13 13:44:36 - [385] - Quote Chribba wrote: a wormhole to the future! and possibly the deaths of afk'ers at high-sec gates. Could be the death of all AFKers if they keep getting more aggressive
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1252	Posted - 2015.01.13 22:43:46 - [386] - Quote Regarding some recent info i collected about the Circadian Seeker change, I updated my article on it: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!' Main things are the change in behaviour by the Seekers since Proteus, listed below: -Seekers defend themselves now -In case the aggressor flees, Seekers pursue him relentlessly until he leaves system or docks. returning too soon to the system or undocking too fast will cause the Seekers to re-initiate the attack on you. They do have a 60 second interval before they warp to you tho. -Seekers pod people! (if you give them the time, damage is low on pod & they don't disrupt your warp) -They might disrupt drone targeting, making it hard to keep all your drones on the same target (needs more investigation) Will do my best to stay on top of these new developments, if you spot anything new/odd don't hesitate to inform people! Circadian Seekers retaliate! Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!
per Terpene Conglomerate 40	Posted - 2015.01.14 00:46:26 - [387] - Quote Chribba wrote: a wormhole to the future! and possibly the deaths of afk'ers at high-sec gates. im hoping for deaths of afk cloakers even ;) since there has been some info that those seekers are able to scan even cloaked ships ;o)
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 610	Posted - 2015.01.14 00:54:43 - [388] - Quote Alright, so who wants to be the first to let them pod you and see what happens? Vote Sabriz!
Pok Nibin Filial Pariahs 456	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:10:57 - [389] - Quote Eat mor chikin. Just sayin'. Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1261	Posted - 2015.01.14 09:59:26 - [390] - Quote per wrote: Chribba wrote: a wormhole to the future! and possibly the deaths of afk'ers at high-sec gates. im hoping for deaths of afk cloakers even ;) since there has been some info that those seekers are able to scan even cloaked ships ;o) It gets better, not only can Seekers scan cloaked ships, they can now pursue cloaked ships in warp! No fleeing the battle if you notice you can't handle it! Circadian Seekers retaliate! Capsuleers deal a serious blow to 'De-Minmatarization' - program!

Ronos Northstar One 0	Posted - 2015.01.14 13:57:02 - [391] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Can we start a collection to hire this guy a hair stylist ?
Deck Cadelanne Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts 123	Posted - 2015.01.14 14:00:48 - [392] - Quote So...seekers are the antidote to AFK players... I like that. I like that a lot! *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Deck Cadelanne Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts 123	Posted - 2015.01.14 14:03:45 - [393] - Quote Harrison Tato wrote: I saw a sleeper drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect. If you manage to kill one, they blitz you with lawyers, guns and money. *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 681	Posted - 2015.01.14 14:04:01 - [394] - Quote Deck Cadelanne wrote: So...seekers are the antidote to AFK players... I like that. I like that a lot! At the very least I think they may be the antidote to AFK players who wander off leaving drones on aggressive, it's a start.
dhunpael 45	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:25:09 - [395] - Quote I've been reading a lot of the forums and other posts, and now i present to you, my theory: It all starts with The Other (well known for residing within the Amarr empress). The other has a plan. First it took over the construct. He took over the Sleepers and their drones. It has taken a long time, but while and after he took over the sleeper he used the drones to scout known space. He let them build bases (the ones we can now find by scanning them out) for a unknown reason. Now we are seeing Sleepers in know space, I've no idea if it's intended or just a failing of technology, but what we do know is that the Sleepers in know space have shields. So they do try to get stronger. I think this is a ruse of The Other to scare people OR to show them of as the saviors of the masses by scaring off and killing the Sansha. I'm not to sure about this part. Now to the really interesting part. The Other used the empress to start with the implants for normal people (the ones used by the soldiers in Dust 514). I think this was a test, to see how the normal people would react, how the implants behaved and if The Other could take over those soldiers. I'm thinking that The Other would like to take over a lot more then only the Sleepers and the empress. So he's probably going to spread the implants to the normal people with the promise that they can be like the Capsuleers or help fight the Sansha/Sleepers with it. Then when everyone (or at least a big part of the eve population) has an implant he takes them over and makes them his slaves. Just like he did with the Sleepers and the Sleeper drones. The Jovian probably noticed the plans and tried something, Whether they are cowards who blew up a star to isolate them from the rest of eve, they tried to build/test a powerful weapon I do not know. It might even be possible that the sleepers (on orders of The Other) attacked the Jovian. (There is also a small possibility that the Jovian exploded something just so the cloaks in known space would start to fail, so they could warn the empires and the Capsuleers of the oncoming danger.) As far as the Thera incident, sisters of eve and the opening of wormholes: They are not connected to The Other. They merely forced The Other to react faster than he anticipated.
Effect One Vengeful Swan 173	Posted - 2015.01.15 12:31:20 - [396] - Quote Cool. Good read. 'This might be internet spaceships, but it's not rocket science to protect yourself and fly with a little common sense' - CCP Falcon
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 458	Posted - 2015.01.15 13:53:00 - [397] - Quote What if Sansha k. is another embodiment of The Other and the Sleepers we are seeing now are the True Sleepers that managed to escape his grip and now are coming back with a vengeance to wipe him out? Maybe The Other has been isolated somehow. The Sansha hive-mind is reminiscent of The Construct so there might be a similarity there. UUuu I'm so exciteeed.... " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Strom Ronuken Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:55:20 - [398] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Regarding some recent info i collected about the Circadian Seeker change, I updated my article on it: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!' Main things are the change in behaviour by the Seekers since Proteus, listed below: -Seekers defend themselves now -In case the aggressor flees, Seekers pursue him relentlessly until he leaves system or docks. returning too soon to the system or undocking too fast will cause the Seekers to re-initiate the attack on you. They do have a 60 second interval before they warp to you tho. -Seekers pod people! (if you give them the time, damage is low on pod & they don't disrupt your warp) -They might disrupt drone targeting, making it hard to keep all your drones on the same target (Behaviour not consistent) -Seekers call reinforcements when the first group is destroyed (second wave of 5 seekers) Will do my best to stay on top of these new developments, if you spot anything new/odd don't hesitate to inform people! Great info, I just fought five of them in a Raven Battleship and had to dock up. Micro jumped from them and they got back into hit range with in 20 seconds. They can hit you from at least 90K. Partial log of fight
Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 112	Posted - 2015.01.16 13:11:45 - [399] - Quote Following a watch of the latest o7 show ( slightly drunk i will admit), i had to rewatch a section......specificaly the bit about the Pre Fanfest Pub Crawl live event.....this year its something different...not chessboxing or something else out of game...its a ingame event......I sepculate that its caused by 'carolines star / nebula '....which has altered some planetary orbits?...the event promised seems to me to be a planetary collision. If planets aren't safe, is your outpost? Is Jita 4/4?...what if the collison is Jita 4? Ohh the tears Je suis charlie
TrickyBlackSteel Russia Caldari Northern Associates. 3	Posted - 2015.01.17 09:13:58 - [400] - Quote my friend died from sleepers in nullsec inside forcefield pos....

Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5866	Posted - 2015.01.17 09:24:48 - [401] - Quote TrickyBlackSteel wrote: my friend died from sleepers in nullsec inside forcefield pos.... Now we know who is responsible for the POS code. It was planned all along! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
per Terpene Conglomerate 41	Posted - 2015.01.17 11:15:55 - [402] - Quote CS (cikardian seeker) got like 725GJ of cap, if you drain them with neuts they still keep their speed and everything else also they use some pandemorium missiles or how was it called i dont remember corectly + they do dmg with something else as well not only the missiles... guns maybe but no effect of shooting cant be seen or any other guns on the CS hull except the launcher though they do em/therm dmg 50/50
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16145	Posted - 2015.01.21 23:50:50 - [403] - Quote Okay, just to update - Circadians actually have a true DPS of over 500 if applied correctly. They have heavy missiles and battleship-size turrets. Interesting - I wonder what's going to happen next A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 267	Posted - 2015.01.22 00:25:58 - [404] - Quote Breaking news from Fox Space News Corp as picked up on a CCP Twitter account. Sleepers will retaliate against POS aggression. https://twitter.com/CCP_Paradox/status/557953486298832898 "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance 32	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:00:48 - [405] - Quote Strom Ronuken wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: Regarding some recent info i collected about the Circadian Seeker change, I updated my article on it: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!' Main things are the change in behaviour by the Seekers since Proteus, listed below: -Seekers defend themselves now -In case the aggressor flees, Seekers pursue him relentlessly until he leaves system or docks. returning too soon to the system or undocking too fast will cause the Seekers to re-initiate the attack on you. They do have a 60 second interval before they warp to you tho. -Seekers pod people! (if you give them the time, damage is low on pod & they don't disrupt your warp) -They might disrupt drone targeting, making it hard to keep all your drones on the same target (Behaviour not consistent) -Seekers call reinforcements when the first group is destroyed (second wave of 5 seekers) Will do my best to stay on top of these new developments, if you spot anything new/odd don't hesitate to inform people! Great info, I just fought five of them in a Raven Battleship and had to dock up. Micro jumped from them and they got back into hit range with in 20 seconds. They can hit you from at least 90K. Partial log of fight I kill them in cruisers... How was you Raven fitted?...
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16145	Posted - 2015.01.22 04:06:34 - [406] - Quote d0cTeR9 wrote: Strom Ronuken wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: Regarding some recent info i collected about the Circadian Seeker change, I updated my article on it: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!' Main things are the change in behaviour by the Seekers since Proteus, listed below: -Seekers defend themselves now -In case the aggressor flees, Seekers pursue him relentlessly until he leaves system or docks. returning too soon to the system or undocking too fast will cause the Seekers to re-initiate the attack on you. They do have a 60 second interval before they warp to you tho. -Seekers pod people! (if you give them the time, damage is low on pod & they don't disrupt your warp) -They might disrupt drone targeting, making it hard to keep all your drones on the same target (Behaviour not consistent) -Seekers call reinforcements when the first group is destroyed (second wave of 5 seekers) Will do my best to stay on top of these new developments, if you spot anything new/odd don't hesitate to inform people! Great info, I just fought five of them in a Raven Battleship and had to dock up. Micro jumped from them and they got back into hit range with in 20 seconds. They can hit you from at least 90K. Partial log of fight I kill them in cruisers... How was you Raven fitted?... They're using large turrets (0.04 rad/sec) and heavy missiles- so in your cruiser you'd probably be getting well under half the DPS (>500 total), and a BS would take the brunt. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 112	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:47:20 - [407] - Quote Seekers have now had their first POS kill.....https://zkillboard.com/kill/44056636/ They did have help, but looks like they can just grind through, all they need is time. If they get an additional dps buff next upgrade things are going to become very interesting...time to recheck the POS aggression settings Je suis charlie
Wraith Soulsark Hyperclasm Pyrotechnics 0	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:30:49 - [408] - Quote I noticed yesterday in arnon the seekers were hanging around the soe station off and on all day. I dont know if it was because people killing them constantly and they were reinforcing or they have a special interest in the sisters themselves. I really REALLY hope ccp does something cool with these things and not just use them as space janitors for all the long lost offline structures scattered throughout the universe.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1291	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:14:32 - [409] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: Seekers have now had their first POS kill.....https://zkillboard.com/kill/44056636/ They did have help, but looks like they can just grind through, all they need is time. If they get an additional dps buff next upgrade things are going to become very interesting...time to recheck the POS aggression settings They did had help, but they still did almost half the damage. Interesting times are ahead of us! Arek'Jaalan needs YOU! Disaster strikes Black Rise colony!
Jimmies Rustled Rohkis tax evasion corp 14	Posted - 2015.01.22 21:24:34 - [410] - Quote Lots of weird new sounds on sisi when near seekers and their structures. New Unidentified wormholes in K space, (new to me anyway) with Sleeper thermoelectric converters around the wormhole. After sitting at wormhole for a few mins the seekers warped in to me and began approaching me. Trying to use all types of e war etc on the site to attempt effecting it.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16145	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:27:46 - [411] - Quote Jimmies Rustled wrote: Ive honestly been so excited searching for all this new stuff I nearly missed work. Lots of weird new sounds on sisi when near seekers and their structures. New Unidentified wormholes in K space, (new to me anyway) with Sleeper thermoelectric converters around the wormhole. After sitting at wormhole for a few mins the seekers warped in to me and began approaching me. Trying to use all types of e war etc on the site to attempt effecting it. Found a mysterious probe. Rajeet Achmar > "Despite its familiar construction, this ancient probe is made from materials and electronics unlike anything you've ever seen in New Eden. It floats silently through space, seemingly dormant." Rajeet Achmar > The probe establishes a remote communications channel with your ship, then transmits a single GÇÿbeep' noise. I smartbombed it and the remote comm message came up. bassie12bf1 > Drifter Battleship (found in mesybier) "The design of this Sleeper drone echoes what is believed to be the very earliest Sleeper Starships, suggesting it was perhaps constructed during that period too. Contrasting with its possible age is the unspoiled condition of its armor, suggesting that if it is indeed as ancient as its designers, it has only very recently been put into service. " Pilot of battleship was apparently: Heretic Soldier, who's description was: "The different branches of Jovians that exist are not the result of variations in geographical or climatic differences, but rather that of genetic engineering through the centuries. The Modifiers are the enthusiasts of the Jovian family. They are curious and constantly willing to try or experience something new and fresh. Modifiers have lower life expectancy that other Jovians and are more susceptible to the dreaded Jovian Disease. It seems that by constantly living on the edge makes them burn out faster." Drifter battleship was hitting: "bassie12bf1 > 22:22:50 Combat 71 from Drifter Battleship - Praedormitan Missile - Hits" http://i.imgur.com/5gswYky.png Woah. I can't get onto sisi right now, but would you mind putting both of those into a mail and sending me the links? (on sisi) Roaming Sleeper Battleships on the way? And that's the description from the 'Modifier' bloodline of the Jovians- Veniel had the same description before he was doomheim'd. I need my laptop to come so i can get on SISI again and see all of this as it unfolds A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Bobb Bobbington DeD Runners United 6	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:54:03 - [412] - Quote I'm curious, has anybody checked up on the k-space shattered systems? Just speculation, but maybe since the shattered systems were created by the wormholes and/or sleepers they have something to do with all of this?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 671	Posted - 2015.01.23 00:07:38 - [413] - Quote Jimmies Rustled wrote: Ive honestly been so excited searching for all this new stuff I nearly missed work. Lots of weird new sounds on sisi when near seekers and their structures. New Unidentified wormholes in K space, (new to me anyway) with Sleeper thermoelectric converters around the wormhole. After sitting at wormhole for a few mins the seekers warped in to me and began approaching me. Trying to use all types of e war etc on the site to attempt effecting it. Found a mysterious probe. Rajeet Achmar > "Despite its familiar construction, this ancient probe is made from materials and electronics unlike anything you've ever seen in New Eden. It floats silently through space, seemingly dormant." Rajeet Achmar > The probe establishes a remote communications channel with your ship, then transmits a single GÇÿbeep' noise. I smartbombed it and the remote comm message came up. bassie12bf1 > Drifter Battleship (found in mesybier) "The design of this Sleeper drone echoes what is believed to be the very earliest Sleeper Starships, suggesting it was perhaps constructed during that period too. Contrasting with its possible age is the unspoiled condition of its armor, suggesting that if it is indeed as ancient as its designers, it has only very recently been put into service. " Pilot of battleship was apparently: Heretic Soldier, who's description was: "The different branches of Jovians that exist are not the result of variations in geographical or climatic differences, but rather that of genetic engineering through the centuries. The Modifiers are the enthusiasts of the Jovian family. They are curious and constantly willing to try or experience something new and fresh. Modifiers have lower life expectancy that other Jovians and are more susceptible to the dreaded Jovian Disease. It seems that by constantly living on the edge makes them burn out faster." Drifter battleship was hitting: "bassie12bf1 > 22:22:50 Combat 71 from Drifter Battleship - Praedormitan Missile - Hits" http://i.imgur.com/5gswYky.png Oh that's cool. "Unidentified" wormhole, eh? Not "Unstable"? I may or may not like where this is going..... Vote Sabriz!
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos 63	Posted - 2015.01.23 01:26:47 - [414] - Quote Later tonight I will continue my exploration on rajeet and jimmies and make an expedition to thera which is where the unidentified wormhole is supposed to leave.
Jimmies Rustled Rohkis tax evasion corp 17	Posted - 2015.01.23 06:01:58 - [415] - Quote So far exploration of Thera has lead to nothing, Dead end. Hoping for more bread crumbs next patch!
Rhavas Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 367	Posted - 2015.01.23 06:41:10 - [416] - Quote I spent some quality time on Sisi tonight to watch and document. Findings on Reddit here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tcp3x/roaming_sleepers_on_sisi_are_getting_new_toys/cny0zwz TLDR: The site despawned at downtime I found a new one in Iyen-Oursta 4 Seekers spawned, scanned, warped out, warped back When they warped back, two Drifter Battleships spawned and began escorting the Seekers on warps So ... our Seeker friends now have a bit more armament accompanying. Interesting side notes: There was no Unidentified Structure in system, just an Unidentified Wormhole. In both systems, the beacon was WAY at the outer edge of the system, unlike signatures which are generally <4AU from a celestial. Author of Interstellar Privateer Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16147	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:09:50 - [417] - Quote http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tdyqo/new_jove_battleship_in_the_game_files/ There's a new JOVE BATTLESHIP in the SISI files! Not sleeper (this isn't a drone), a Jovian ship. It has a "pilot": a Jovian, as far as CONCORD sees it. This ship is ancient, from the description here, so it seems to be a ship that is both sleeper and Jovian together, from the era in which they split off and the Architects made their home in Anoikis. The Sleepers are, physically, Jovian. And they are waking up. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
TheSmokingHertog TALIBAN EXPRESS 284	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:10:50 - [418] - Quote It would be cool if the ships would replenish the things they shoot from the capsuleer market ;)...
Jove Eden Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation 25	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:15:05 - [419] - Quote \o/ Daddies home. Drifter BS nom nom Can anyone obtain a full image picture please?
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2015.01.23 16:11:26 - [420] - Quote Only one Unidentified Structure that I could find today on SISI few jumps from Jita didnt had gas/little nebula around it anymore. Cloak is still there like before. No Seekers, I waited 5 minutes. No luck in finding Unidentified Wormhole yet.

Hibernator X Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 21	Posted - 2015.01.23 16:23:49 - [421] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tdyqo/new_jove_battleship_in_the_game_files/ There's a new JOVE BATTLESHIP in the SISI files! Not sleeper (this isn't a drone), a Jovian ship. It has a "pilot": a Jovian, as far as CONCORD sees it. This ship is ancient, from the description here, so it seems to be a ship that is both sleeper and Jovian together, from the era in which they split off and the Architects made their home in Anoikis. The Sleepers are, physically, Jovian. And they are waking up. Great find! Thanks for sharing!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6120	Posted - 2015.01.23 17:03:03 - [422] - Quote Someone posted a video of that sleeper takedown of a POS, or what was said afterwards. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Bobb Bobbington DeD Runners United 6	Posted - 2015.01.23 17:49:10 - [423] - Quote I just saw something I'm not sure has been put on the table yet. I went to an unidentified structure and was following the sleepers that I had found there around. Now, nothing sooper major happened, however, I realized the sleepers were scanning the unidentified structure! Although the sleepers only appear in systems with the unidentified structure are we wrong in assuming that that is their base, and not merely the primary object of interest of the sleepers? Could it not be that the sleepers are in the systems with the unidentified structures simply because they too have not seen such a thing before? If I am wrong, and the unidentified structures really are their bases, what need do they have to study their own structures?
Sarmatiko 1661	Posted - 2015.01.23 18:53:26 - [424] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: This ship is ancient, from the description here, so it seems to be a ship that is both sleeper and Jovian together, from the era in which they split off and the Architects made their home in Anoikis. The Sleepers are, physically, Jovian. Description is just a stub (entity was copied from sleeper, then modified) so speculation about "ancient" is irrelevant until we see the new one.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16164	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:36:31 - [425] - Quote Bobb Bobbington wrote: I just saw something I'm not sure has been put on the table yet. I went to an unidentified structure and was following the sleepers that I had found there around. Now, nothing sooper major happened, however, I realized the sleepers were scanning the unidentified structure! Although the sleepers only appear in systems with the unidentified structure are we wrong in assuming that that is their base, and not merely the primary object of interest of the sleepers? Could it not be that the sleepers are in the systems with the unidentified structures simply because they too have not seen such a thing before? If I am wrong, and the unidentified structures really are their bases, what need do they have to study their own structures? Well the structures were called "cloaked Jove outpost" in the dev blog where they were mentioned, but that was changed in minutes... A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Bobb Bobbington DeD Runners United 6	Posted - 2015.01.23 19:57:36 - [426] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Bobb Bobbington wrote: I just saw something I'm not sure has been put on the table yet. I went to an unidentified structure and was following the sleepers that I had found there around. Now, nothing sooper major happened, however, I realized the sleepers were scanning the unidentified structure! Although the sleepers only appear in systems with the unidentified structure are we wrong in assuming that that is their base, and not merely the primary object of interest of the sleepers? Could it not be that the sleepers are in the systems with the unidentified structures simply because they too have not seen such a thing before? If I am wrong, and the unidentified structures really are their bases, what need do they have to study their own structures? Well the structures were called "cloaked Jove outpost" in the dev blog where they were mentioned, but that was changed in minutes... Really? That is extremely interesting, I never knew that. It appears my theory may be correct after all! However it only adds another lay of complexity to this mystery...
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6121	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:23:26 - [427] - Quote So possibly the Jove were watching us all along. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 200	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:33:35 - [428] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: So possibly the Jove were watching us all along. with all these structures everywhere? They were here all the time. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5904	Posted - 2015.01.23 22:56:15 - [429] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: So possibly the Jove were watching us all along. with all these structures everywhere? They were here all the time. I am pretty sure every moment we are in a Capsule is recorded by the Jove for data analysis in regards to finding a cure for their disease. The Empires and Capsuleers are nothing more than a elaborate petri dish. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16166	Posted - 2015.01.23 23:04:45 - [430] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Jeremiah Saken wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: So possibly the Jove were watching us all along. with all these structures everywhere? They were here all the time. I am pretty sure every moment we are in a Capsule is recorded by the Jove for data analysis in regards to finding a cure for their disease. The Empires and Capsuleers are nothing more than a elaborate petri dish. That's actually the whole premise behind that Project Galileo thing of mine from a while back Why else would they provide us with something like the capsule? A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 113	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:23:58 - [431] - Quote The new jove/sleeper battleship as featured on EVE Online now http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea25618f1cdf3b40c7784fce83c31be4/tumblr_nisrjsV10e1u3t3e6o1_500.jpg 'Its not the strongest or the most intelligent' ..........yet They also seem to have their own WH generators so don't use our gates, when they are killing you jump to next system ....for now you will be safe Je suis charlie
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 284	Posted - 2015.01.26 21:39:09 - [432] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: The new jove/sleeper battleship as featured on EVE Online now http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea25618f1cdf3b40c7784fce83c31be4/tumblr_nisrjsV10e1u3t3e6o1_500.jpg 'Its not the strongest or the most intelligent' ..........yet They also seem to have their own WH generators so don't use our gates, when they are killing you jump to next system ....for now you will be safe It is amazing... Can't wait to see where all this leads to!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6132	Posted - 2015.01.27 04:42:48 - [433] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: The new jove/sleeper battleship as featured on EVE Online now http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea25618f1cdf3b40c7784fce83c31be4/tumblr_nisrjsV10e1u3t3e6o1_500.jpg 'Its not the strongest or the most intelligent' ..........yet They also seem to have their own WH generators so don't use our gates, when they are killing you jump to next system ....for now you will be safe Such a ship would be great. But we know what would happen. There woujld be a "plague" of them and then they get nerfed and CCP gets nervous to spread the features around. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1513	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:53:11 - [434] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Prt Scr wrote: The new jove/sleeper battleship as featured on EVE Online now http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea25618f1cdf3b40c7784fce83c31be4/tumblr_nisrjsV10e1u3t3e6o1_500.jpg 'Its not the strongest or the most intelligent' ..........yet They also seem to have their own WH generators so don't use our gates, when they are killing you jump to next system ....for now you will be safe Such a ship would be great. But we know what would happen. There woujld be a "plague" of them and then they get nerfed and CCP gets nervous to spread the features around. Is it part of a battleship or is it part of the unidentified cloaked structures?... TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Allant Doran Exile. 25	Posted - 2015.01.27 16:15:13 - [435] - Quote For no reason whatsoever, I am going to be the first person (as best I know) to propose this; Those little drone-things in the picture that look like tiny mining lasers? THOSE are the new Jovian Battleship. The big thing underneath them? God help us all! /rampant, wild and careless speculation
Jimmies Rustled Rohkis tax evasion corp 19	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:02:52 - [436] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: For no reason whatsoever, I am going to be the first person (as best I know) to propose this; Those little drone-things in the picture that look like tiny mining lasers? THOSE are the new Jovian Battleship. The big thing underneath them? God help us all! /rampant, wild and careless speculation Pretty sure those are just turret models, but feel free to speculate: Back half is now up: http://now.eveonline.com/post/109298167753/if-they-continue-to-be-attacked-in-this-way-there you can see the shield/field of energy that was shown in the model previews.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16455	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:13:07 - [437] - Quote Holy hell- the more we see, the more I realize that this theory is holding significantly more water than I ever thought it would. When I first started playing EVE, I fell in love with the lore, poring over every bit of it and learning everything I could about the Jovians in particular! Now, after all this time of thinking that they were being phased out and ignored, THIS happens! I can't even describe how excited I am for all of these happenings A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Allant Doran Exile. 26	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:47:18 - [438] - Quote Jimmies Rustled wrote: Allant Doran wrote: For no reason whatsoever, I am going to be the first person (as best I know) to propose this; Those little drone-things in the picture that look like tiny mining lasers? THOSE are the new Jovian Battleship. The big thing underneath them? God help us all! /rampant, wild and careless speculation Pretty sure those are just turret models, but feel free to speculate: Oh I'm almost certain they're just turrets. I just felt like being a bit silly and going full blown, lacking-evidence style of speculation.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16496	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:50:50 - [439] - Quote http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tygd1/new_jovian_space_station/ New Jovian Station found in SISI files A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 691	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:03:27 - [440] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tygd1/new_jovian_space_station/ New Jovian Station found in SISI files Wonder how the shape lines up with the Unidentified structures..... Vote Sabriz!

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16497	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:04:57 - [441] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tygd1/new_jovian_space_station/ New Jovian Station found in SISI files Wonder how the shape lines up with the Unidentified structures..... I'm pining for more info- though the cloaked structure was originally told to be "Cloaked Jove Outpost" before being quickly corrected A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 691	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:32:51 - [442] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tygd1/new_jovian_space_station/ New Jovian Station found in SISI files Wonder how the shape lines up with the Unidentified structures..... I'm pining for more info- though the cloaked structure was originally told to be "Cloaked Jove Outpost" before being quickly corrected Now the question is......can I dock in it or is it just a background piece? Vote Sabriz!
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1513	Posted - 2015.01.28 16:48:23 - [443] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2tygd1/new_jovian_space_station/ New Jovian Station found in SISI files That zoom tho TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16510	Posted - 2015.01.28 23:06:55 - [444] - Quote Guys- GUYS- the Jovians at BACK!!! http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2u0mbl/new_jove_body_model_confirmed_by_myronik/ A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
DaReaper Net 7 1751	Posted - 2015.01.29 00:48:28 - [445] - Quote make new jove char, can't clone, perma death.. omg that would so own... I have a free spot. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Scuzzy Logic Nightmare Machinery 147	Posted - 2015.01.29 05:42:13 - [446] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Sooo..... How does Sansha fit into all of this? Honestly, it wouldn't be too far fetched to expect Sansha to be TheOther masquerading as him to the True Slave collective...
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 208	Posted - 2015.01.29 06:38:16 - [447] - Quote DaReaper wrote: make new jove char, can't clone, perma death.. omg that would so own... I have a free spot. Rise was talking about this at Vegas, or maybe it was Fozzie. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6141	Posted - 2015.01.29 07:10:32 - [448] - Quote Uh... guys.... that pic of the Jove from the Reddit page, the one with the sleeper drone.... The Jove never had black eyes before. Those are the people you find in sleeper stations. Templar One, page 93: Quote: Their eyes are completely black. No whites in them at all. This bodes ill. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 208	Posted - 2015.01.29 08:20:26 - [449] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: This bodes ill. They supposed to be dying race. Looking like hive mind borg btw. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Anthar Thebess 844	Posted - 2015.01.29 09:39:24 - [450] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: This bodes ill. They supposed to be dying race. Looking like hive mind borg btw. Maybe they are no longer dying. They might solve their issues , and cleanse all not willing to change , or those who they could not help any more. Recently in Stain people see new type of sansha citizens , maybe Sansha helped them out.

Lachesiss Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation 178	Posted - 2015.01.29 11:08:14 - [451] - Quote For years everyone even I have said, Bring back the Jove. Make them come into our space again and make it so they shoot us and stuff and we can shoot them. Ok so Star blows up wiping out any existence of Jove Tech in that area. Wormholes appear because of that and a new system is found that pretty much has no control. Huge Beacons appear which in fact are Jovian and they have been watching us since time began but because there home system was alpha'd the beacons cloaking devices are failing. Probably had a link with there home system which got popped. Because there home system is now ours and the beacons are failing the Jove sent out new sleepers to identify our AI in how we are in modern times. Ship types Ship fits Tactics. weaknesses Now they have what they need they can start adapting like the Jove do. Re-writing fits and rebuilding there ships to adjust to our weapons and defensive systems. We all know that one of the Joves main tactics was infiltration and listening and watching to adapt to better than EvE has. So basically we asked for it and now there coming. However this time there not going to just sit there and laugh at us trying to blow there ships up. This time there going to hit back EDIT: Whilst typing this I have had 5 coffee's bitten all my nails and in sheer excitement of what is coming PS Falcon you sneaky sneak saying they would never come back. On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 209	Posted - 2015.01.29 11:27:12 - [452] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: So basically we asked for it and now there coming. However this time there not going to just sit there and laugh at us trying to blow there ships up. This time there going to hit back Twisted Jovias are like star trek Vulcans but It's possible that there are some renegades like Romulans. It seems like we are going to have jovians diaspora soon, their home systems are propably destroyed. They will share technology with us and we'll build stargates to new systems. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Samsara Toldya Academy of Contradictory Behaviour 214	Posted - 2015.01.29 14:32:27 - [453] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: They will share technology with us and we'll build stargates to new systems. They do have an Academy of Aggressive Behaviour... Maybe instead of sharing technology (they already did that, not sure if they are happy with the results) they'll enslave us... There is a future... where miners and gankers mine Veldspar together to please our new masters... The only open question is: Will Chribba be our foreman or their slaverhound?
Chea Panasty Full Spectrum Inc Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 0	Posted - 2015.01.29 14:58:33 - [454] - Quote Havent read Templar One yet, but I've already ordered it and it's on it's way...so I stopped reading, but I've come at the mention of bacon
Luna Arindale Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District 48	Posted - 2015.01.29 15:58:06 - [455] - Quote You know, in Templar one the main sleeper hub was built around a star using it for power. If the explosion of Caroline's star was co-located at the star, and sleepers have seemingly woken up. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that the sleepers are no longer sleeping.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16524	Posted - 2015.01.29 16:51:54 - [456] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/post/109490798348/the-little-brother-makes-the-final-sorrowful This quote confirms it- the sleepers are the "little brother"- I'll be sure to welcome them if I can. Also, the integral insignia is on the top of this ship. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Allant Doran Exile. 26	Posted - 2015.01.29 17:26:25 - [457] - Quote So the Sleeper's really were the Prophesied 'Little Brother'? Somebody break out the rest of the Macaper Prophecy again. There must be more!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 210	Posted - 2015.01.29 18:15:53 - [458] - Quote Samsara Toldya wrote: Maybe instead of sharing technology (they already did that, not sure if they are happy with the results) they'll enslave us... Possible, but i don't think they shared all their technology with us. You don't selling machine guns to the monkeys. As writen in prophecy: GÇ£the little brother makes the final sorrowful steps home; he is not welcomeGÇ¥ I think it's about Jovians not sleepers. Little brother as not so populous as we are. Why "he's" not welcome? Maybe because sleepers behaviour? What happened in Jove empire? Was it attack? Natural dissaster like EvE gate collapsing but on smaller scale? Something was imprisoned at not it's free? What will come with them? "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
DaReaper Net 7 1759	Posted - 2015.01.29 21:10:49 - [459] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: So the Sleeper's really were the Prophesied 'Little Brother'? Somebody break out the rest of the Macaper Prophecy again. There must be more! i still think this line "GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes four" Esentually will be when we have 4 levels of conciousness for 1 person. i.e. EVE Legion Valk unknown. But it could be the empires uniting as one. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 211	Posted - 2015.01.29 22:42:44 - [460] - Quote Quote: http://now.eveonline.com/post/109490798348/the-little-brother-makes-the-final-sorrowful This ship has the claw logo. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16526	Posted - 2015.01.29 23:03:36 - [461] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Quote: http://now.eveonline.com/post/109490798348/the-little-brother-makes-the-final-sorrowful This ship has the claw logo. DaReaper wrote: "GÇ£what was many now becomes one when one becomes four" Esentually will be when we have 4 levels of conciousness for 1 person. What about four ancient races? Talocan, Takhmal, Sleepers, Yan Jung? Maybe it's not about splitting but merging. Jovians as remnants of the Four. The way I've seen that part of the prophecy: Many become one (capsuleers unite as one) when one becomes four (CONCORD dissolves- it comes from the four empires) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 705	Posted - 2015.01.29 23:47:28 - [462] - Quote So apparently the Drifter Battleships have an extra layer of shields that may or may not react differently to Polarized weapons...... EDIT: I haven't confirmed any bit of that sentence myself as I don't do anything on the test server. Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6143	Posted - 2015.01.29 23:49:47 - [463] - Quote Luna Arindale wrote: You know, in Templar one the main sleeper hub was built around a star using it for power. If the explosion of Caroline's star was co-located at the star, and sleepers have seemingly woken up. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that the sleepers are no longer sleeping. C'mon, say it. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 27	Posted - 2015.01.29 23:49:59 - [464] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: So apparently the Drifter Battleships have an extra layer of shields that may or may not react differently to Polarized weapons...... Okay, now that IS cool.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6143	Posted - 2015.01.30 00:04:38 - [465] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: So apparently the Drifter Battleships have an extra layer of shields that may or may not react differently to Polarized weapons...... Okay, now that IS cool. I would figure that to be cool... but there's a part of my brain that envisions death bubble camps and entire fleets of drifters and further shutdown of everywhere but highsec. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5943	Posted - 2015.01.30 00:08:22 - [466] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: So apparently the Drifter Battleships have an extra layer of shields that may or may not react differently to Polarized weapons...... EDIT: I haven't confirmed any bit of that sentence myself as I don't do anything on the test server. Well, it's a blue shield. As we all know, blue shields fully recharge after a cooldown if they are not continuously damaged. So maybe polarized weapons permanently damage them instead of allowing a full recharge. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6143	Posted - 2015.01.30 00:22:41 - [467] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: So apparently the Drifter Battleships have an extra layer of shields that may or may not react differently to Polarized weapons...... EDIT: I haven't confirmed any bit of that sentence myself as I don't do anything on the test server. Well, it's a blue shield. As we all know, blue shields fully recharge after a cooldown if they are not continuously damaged. So maybe polarized weapons permanently damage them instead of allowing a full recharge. From what source is this knowledge of a blue shield taken? I have not heard of them before, neither in mechanics and lore. (hey that rhymes) Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5943	Posted - 2015.01.30 00:32:07 - [468] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: From what source is this knowledge of a blue shield taken? I have not heard of them before, neither in mechanics and lore. Well, there is Halo and Mass Effect. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6143	Posted - 2015.01.30 00:39:53 - [469] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: From what source is this knowledge of a blue shield taken? I have not heard of them before, neither in mechanics and lore. Well, there is Halo and Mass Effect. You know, I was thinking of Halo. I wanted to say "Did you get that from Halo?" but I didn't want to be snarking. You are right though. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sekket Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels 49	Posted - 2015.01.30 10:07:11 - [470] - Quote Samsara Toldya wrote: Jeremiah Saken wrote: They will share technology with us and we'll build stargates to new systems. They do have an Academy of Aggressive Behaviour... Maybe instead of sharing technology (they already did that, not sure if they are happy with the results) they'll enslave us... There is a future... where miners and gankers mine Veldspar together to please our new masters... The only open question is: Will Chribba be our foreman or their slaverhound? Can't it be both? CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29626	Posted - 2015.01.30 10:27:06 - [471] - Quote Hey all, I did my best to combine the two pics that were linked in this thread. Anyway, how do I make a Jove BS spawn? I've read a few pages back, but I haven't found the secret to making a Jove BS spawn. I'm on Sisi with my gang, and have been for a couple hours, lurking at an Unidentified Structure. Killed maybe four sets of waves + reinforcements, but no Jove BS. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1517	Posted - 2015.01.30 12:22:01 - [472] - Quote I heard that there was some "extra-shield" coming with this beauty? It looks more like a organic coating to me if I look at the picture... Edit: I have not heard anyone from ccp actually refer to this baby as Jove and I really do not think it is. The Jove had better ship designs fitting to their stations. What if that is something entirely different...the Logo does not fit to any of the known Jove-organisations and why in the world would a artificial intelligence (Sleepers) need a Symbol on their vessels? TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 27	Posted - 2015.01.30 14:36:32 - [473] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: The Jove had better ship designs fitting to their stations. What if that is something entirely different...the Logo does not fit to any of the known Jove-organisations and why in the world would a artificial intelligence (Sleepers) need a Symbol on their vessels? If I recall correctly, the description for this vessel describes it as an ancient ship design that has only very recently been put into service. The leading theory is that this is a ship from the era when the Jove and Sleepers were one and the same, before the Jove disease and before the sleepers become a race of data entities. It could be one of the following, or a combination of both; --- - The Jovians have cured their disease, which means they have a larger populace than they do available modern ships, and have partnered with their long-lost relatives, the sleepers, to form fleets of Sleepers and very old Jovian tech. - The Sleepers have 'woken up', but as with the above scenario, if they were to do so they do not have enough ships to be crewed by living, breathing bodies, and would have to resort to pulling up old hulls and designs to fit their army. It's also worth pointing out the following; The fact that the symbol is unlike anything Jovian or Sleeper that we have seen so far is actually a far more worrying idea than the alternative. If it were just a brand new race then the fact that the symbol is new doesn't really mean anything. Of course it's new, we've never met them before. But Jovians/Sleepers with a new symbol? That bodes ill. It represents that they have had a changing of either perspective, understanding or knowledge and have banded together under a new symbol to represent this. Considering it coincides with an invasion of K-Space, I'm fairly certain this isn't the ''Merry Christmas, Presents for all'' Jove Corp. My last point would be this; To introduce an entirely new race at this point, after such a long, deliberate and drawn out mystery surrounding Jovians, Jovian Space being cut off, Sleepers, Anoikis and now Caroline's Star, would be incredibly unlikely. It's not impossible but it is most likely an evolution of known events and politics, not unknown ones.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16526	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:04:17 - [474] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/109584506668 The full image is now online A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 117	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:10:49 - [475] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/109584506668 its labeled....it is the drifter bs (concept art) Je suis charlie
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 707	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:20:09 - [476] - Quote I want that in my hanger yesterday. Vote Sabriz!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 213	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:21:35 - [477] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5950	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:24:55 - [478] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon. Battleship with a DDD? Sounds fitting to the tech level. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 707	Posted - 2015.01.30 16:30:03 - [479] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Jeremiah Saken wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon. Battleship with a DDD? Sounds fitting to the tech level. Like a micro jump drive, but shooty-er. Vote Sabriz!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16526	Posted - 2015.01.30 17:42:42 - [480] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon. That's just one of the turrets it has- it's a new weapon that does 1000 omni damage- and the ship has seven of them on each side. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 708	Posted - 2015.01.30 18:04:50 - [481] - Quote Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, the Jove symbol is in the top left and right corners while the integral symbol is at the top and bottom. Vote Sabriz!
Kayba Kanade Ireco Industries Zombie Pony Express 0	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:18:46 - [482] - Quote Someone mentioned that the hull has battle damage on it (which CCP has revealed is what they're trying to do with the next graphical update). It's possible that with the Jovian stargate network down, possibly an entire system blown up, and a Sansha invasion, that their society has gone into an apocalyptic scenario, from which the Drifter Battleships are fleeing refugees, and Circadians being a 'scout out a new place to set up camp' force.
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 63	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:46:42 - [483] - Quote Really hoping it isnt like its up to capsuleers to "finish them off" Id rather them become another powerful race in New Eden to break the balance of the 4 empires instead of just becoming another irrelevant race that attacks you like the sansha's nation.
Eojek Starlight Moly 60	Posted - 2015.01.30 19:48:30 - [484] - Quote Artistically, the ship's silhouette and form are pleasing to the eye. I am guessing much of the ship's detail will come from shaders and environmental interaction via the wonder of PBR. Still, I would lay in more subltle Geigeresque organic details native to Jovian architecture within the normal-map.
Morgan Porterfield Freeman Fenga Papits 14	Posted - 2015.01.30 20:10:54 - [485] - Quote Well, interestingly, in my day we used to call Jovians by an entirely different name. Though, I suppose, they might find it rude now. You see they were simpler times, when a man earned what he had by the sweat of his brow. Jovians weren't terribly interested in those things. They had a different way of looking at the world. You could see it in their beady eyes, the way they'd size you up. Then, on occasion, they'd just sit down and whistle a tune. Yes it was simpler times. I'm Morgan Freeman.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16526	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:26:20 - [486] - Quote Eojek wrote: Artistically, the ship's silhouette and form are pleasing to the eye. I am guessing much of the ship's detail will come from shaders and environmental interaction via the wonder of PBR. Still, I would lay in more subltle Geigeresque organic details native to Jovian architecture within the normal-map. http://m.imgur.com/MKb7YIQ It looks a lot more Jovian in the game- this isn't my screenshot by the way- it looks MUCH more Geiger-esque And I'd be devastated if this ended up just becoming another "enemy" to fight- this is the Jovians- they're much more important than that- and I'm sure CCP feels the same way A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16526	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:00:03 - [487] - Quote https://twitter.com/myronik/status/561244635004436480 The turret is called "Lux Kontos"- "Light Spear"- I'll post the stats once I know them. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1065	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:02:34 - [488] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The full image is now online Ok. Now i'm scared. This thing has a battle stance of some sort. Top left corner of the picture. Looking like station killer weapon. I also noticed that. Reminds me of the stance-swapping of Tactical Destroyers. T3 battleships inbound? http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 213	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:15:12 - [489] - Quote Kayba Kanade wrote: It's possible that with the Jovian stargate network down, possibly an entire system blown up, and a Sansha invasion, that their society has gone into an apocalyptic scenario, from which the Drifter Battleships are fleeing refugees, and Circadians being a 'scout out a new place to set up camp' force. Suicide by star? or perhaps genocide? Rajeet Achmar wrote: Really hoping it isnt like its up to capsuleers to "finish them off" Id rather them become another powerful race in New Eden to break the balance of the 4 empires instead of just becoming another irrelevant race that attacks you like the sansha's nation. This would be sad or just lack of imagination from the devs side. Elders are coming back, new possibilities opens. How do they travel anyway? by wormholes? Gates are down. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6154	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:36:42 - [490] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Hey all, I did my best to combine the two pics that were linked in this thread. Anyway, how do I make a Jove BS spawn? I've read a few pages back, but I haven't found the secret to making a Jove BS spawn. I'm on Sisi with my gang, and have been for a couple hours, lurking at an Unidentified Structure. Killed maybe four sets of waves + reinforcements, but no Jove BS. Sleeper exploration sites in known space might spawn them, "final room" I think. Getting to the end of those is going to take a team. Good luck. BTW, if we start seeing people who look Jovian but have black eyes, those are NOT Jovian. And the people "sleeping" in those containments (supposedly) have blue eyes (no pupils or cornea either). Templar One touches on this without direct mention. Considering how things usually go around here, I don't think Jovians are coming to give out toys to all of the good girls and boys. And the Empress, who is also "The Other" (See Empyrean Age) can make sleepers stand down at will. Basically her latest public comment amounts to "Hey you people have been committing genocide all these years". Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dyllan Ma'tar Hoplite Brigade 0	Posted - 2015.01.31 01:03:30 - [491] - Quote The Other is a Sleeper, the Broker is the Other, the Broker is a Sleeper. That is all.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16550	Posted - 2015.01.31 05:33:40 - [492] - Quote http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6155	Posted - 2015.01.31 05:57:37 - [493] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16563	Posted - 2015.01.31 06:00:52 - [494] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens Maybe, I suppose- but the Jovian Directorate insignia in the top-left of the drifter concept is kind of telling. I mean, it could simply mean that they have similar features, as in no hair, slim faces, similar body weight distributions, etc., but if CCP is putting them into the game once again, I doubt they'd make them too similar to each other to be told apart A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6155	Posted - 2015.01.31 06:11:13 - [495] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Xn759 Here's a bunch of pictures of the newest stuff: Like the Jovian body models, and the skin texture for their heads- or at least for the "drifters" if they'll be called that. The Jovian race is making its way back into our hearts and hard drives Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens Maybe, I suppose- but the Jovian Directorate insignia in the top-left of the drifter concept is kind of telling. I mean, it could simply mean that they have similar features, as in no hair, slim faces, similar body weight distributions, etc., but if CCP is putting them into the game once again, I doubt they'd make them too similar to each other to be told apart OR The character creator requires it. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29627	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:13:45 - [496] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Hey all, I did my best to combine the two pics that were linked in this thread. Anyway, how do I make a Jove BS spawn? I've read a few pages back, but I haven't found the secret to making a Jove BS spawn. I'm on Sisi with my gang, and have been for a couple hours, lurking at an Unidentified Structure. Killed maybe four sets of waves + reinforcements, but no Jove BS. Sleeper exploration sites in known space might spawn them, "final room" I think. Getting to the end of those is going to take a team. Good luck. Well ****. I lurked at an unidentified object for... 12 hours today, while I did other things on the computer. Welp. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 213	Posted - 2015.01.31 09:32:37 - [497] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall. Also with cloths, without body hairs it will be hard to tell woman/man. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Kharnakh Acheron Imperial Ascendancy Acheron Imperial Dominion 38	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:28:43 - [498] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall. Hold on, is this true? The Jovian master race is a load of hobbits? :disappointment:
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 29	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:35:39 - [499] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too.
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 213	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:48:31 - [500] - Quote Kharnakh wrote: Hold on, is this true? The Jovian master race is a load of hobbits? :disappointment: Height has nothing to do with brain potential. It's adaptation to natural conditions, maybe they didn't need it. Green Lantern corp guardians were short, most of D&D elves are shorter than human race. Remeber small gun in Men in Black? They are looking scary, inhuman. In dark alley i would shoot first ask later. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16684	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:22:01 - [501] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Models are looking short. Jovians are about 4 feet tall. Also with cloths, without body hairs it will be hard to tell woman/man. Well that's the old description at least- you're getting that one from the Jovian wet grave, right? The "modern" one is in the short story "Theodicy" on the community website and in Templar One- they're relatively not-tall (Grious is ~5'11"), have extremely pale skin that looks and feels like wet glass, and have black veins going back from their eyes, which are pitch-black all around. The "modern" image of the Jovians that appeared on-screen at Fanfest 2012 and in EVE: Source reflects that image completely. But they still don't have any hair A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Asura Vajrarupa Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis 29	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:43:59 - [502] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: The Jovians it was said were difficult to determine gender because of their genetic engineering but here we see more clear gender manifestation. But this would support the notion that this is a return of another related race and considering the history of the ship as well, being ancient but put into service, these are the bodies of a race that might have been Jovian once. The plot thickens The Jovians had several empires, which covered several epochs of genetic modification. The Jovians we know now being the latest and possibly last iteration. These could be Jovians from an earlier epoch, and epoch which the current Jovians wished to separate themselves from. If that is the case then these are definitely Jovians, and they are definitely dangerous. Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 287	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:57:37 - [503] - Quote I'm intrigued about those Lux Kontos. My theory is that they are similar to our turrets, excepting they're held in place by magnetic and/or gravitic fields. Probably they're stored inside the vessel while not in use or warping, and go out and get in position when needed. About the weapons themselves, they probably are some kind of laser, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were particle beams or even electric arc projectors. About the "sorrowful brother"... My theory is that due to the continuous attacks on their facilities, Sleepers want to come back to the Jove Empire. However, they're seen as desertors, or are looked at with jealous eyes (due to not suffering the Jove disease), or maybe their brethen are not longer there (Sansha invasions?)... I also wonder if the whole capsuleer experiment did work as expected for the Jove. Did they predict we would try to be independent, and even attack the Sleepers? Are we their way of dealing with the Sleepers? I really hope too the Jove finally come back and they're not simply another red cross to shoot at. Faction Warfare, standings... come to mind. I'd love to fight at their side, or help them defend themselves or migrate. And even better, be Jove. That means, Jove characters.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 31	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:04:30 - [504] - Quote Komodo brings up an interesting point; Lux Kontos are hovering above the hull of the BS, not directly connected to it. Does this mean that All turrets can glide and fire from literally anywhere on the surface of the ship? Allowng for full, perfectly-angular return fire? No turret would ever be redundant, no matter the firing trajectory.
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 287	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:11:15 - [505] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Komodo brings up an interesting point; Lux Kontos are hovering above the hull of the BS, not directly connected to it. Does this mean that All turrets can glide and fire from literally anywhere on the surface of the ship? Allowng for full, perfectly-angular return fire? No turret would ever be redundant, no matter the firing trajectory. If that's the case, they don't need multiple stances of the same turret or launcher spred over the ship to cover all angles; instead, the turret moves along the hull to keep line of sight to the target. Gameplay-wise it doesn't seem like a big advantage, but it might be from an in-character point of view, as it requires less redundancy. I wonder if they have other properties. Maybe they can be left behind, so that they start to work as sentry drones? That makes me wonder if they have their own internal power source (as sentries do) or they're fed by the ship via wireless electric power.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6162	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:14:20 - [506] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too. Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother". Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 33	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:19:02 - [507] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too. Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother". I don't follow. As far as I have always known, the Jovians ARE the 'little brother'.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5951	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:35:33 - [508] - Quote So wait. The Sleepers and Jove were once the same race. Then they split apart and the Sleepers went digital while the Jove tried to overcome their disease. Now maybe the Sleepers un-digitized themselves and put their brains back into bodies, going to the Jove asking for help against the Capsuleers harvesting their people for implants and research. But the jove wouldn't have any of it, resulting in Caroline's Star. The Sleepers are the little brothers to the Jove. And now they are adrift in their new old spaceships and have a severe grudge both against the Jove and especially against the empires and their Capsuleers. Edit: The Jove rejected the coming home of the Sleepers because they are (somewhat) responsible for the Other, which is screwing around in the Jove's carefully prepared Petri dish. So if the Sleepers are coming and screw even more around in it, the Jove may be some seriously pissed off about it. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16686	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:52:30 - [509] - Quote I've always felt that the sleepers were the "little brother"- and they and the Jovians are now working together to end the Other's threat. Remember the jovian body parts being collected by sleepers posing as Hilen Tukoss? If they're working alongside the Jovians, it would make sense for them to end when they started.. A common enemy can make interesting things happen A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6162	Posted - 2015.01.31 21:57:29 - [510] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hmmm - further evidence that these are not Jovians. Actually, knowing that their weapons are Lux Kontos, or as the game categorizes them, 'Energy Weapons', this is further evidence that they ARE Jovians. The Jovians famously had energy weapons, particularly a Mothership-sized one, that made Amarrian lasers look like cat toys. I'm willing to bet that that weapon was Lux Kontos too. Ah but take the prophecy into account, the reference to "little Brother". I don't follow. As far as I have always known, the Jovians ARE the 'little brother'. Well there are 9 races in the game. 5 "modern" one, of which the Jove are listed. That would be Gallente, Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr as we know, with their known bloodlines. 4 ancient races: Yan Jung, Sleepers, Takmahl, and Talocan It's actually a little "new" to me that the sleepers are indeed considered a race because my impression was that their drones were little more than just old battle systems abandoned long ago after whoever activated them died from some disease. But the mentions on Templar One kind of set the record straight and only recently I noticed that Wiki lists sleepers as a race. And we have not had much interaction with them. So we either have the appearance of an ancient race, seeing that there's a possibility that they have been living in some kind of cryo, or the Jove are back. Templar One implies (without giving much away) that the meddling with sleeper tech seriously messes things up for them and another ancient race, or "their enemies" (not very clear) brought some kind of holocaust to the sleepers. I would have to go through the book again. The book only makes mention of this in one chapter, and the presence of these evil ones is not directly seen, just felt by the Templars and mostly implied. Exactly who they are remains a mystery. I recall in the IGS forum some speculation that the Talocan were the bad guys and they sleepers went into cryo to either get away from them (or some biological warfare they were using) or the Talocan fell to some disease that the Sleepers went into cryo to escape from. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6162	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:03:17 - [511] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: I've always felt that the sleepers were the "little brother"- and they and the Jovians are now working together to end the Other's threat. Remember the jovian body parts being collected by sleepers posing as Hilen Tukoss? If they're working alongside the Jovians, it would make sense for them to end when they started.. A common enemy can make interesting things happen I'm kind of lost on "The Other". The novels of course make it clear "who" the Other is only so far that we know what the Other is capable of and what it's doing (There's a lot here from the novels Empyrean Age and Templar One that I don't want to spoil for those who have not read it). The appearance of the Other is also enigmatic, after a very very long cloning that took years instead of the instant that cloning usually works in when getting podded. The "who" is significant, evidently The Other does not have a body, and did some heinous stuff. (Get the books, you scrubs, if you want to know more) As far as I'm concerned The Other is kind of like New Eden's version of Q from STTNG but way more serious. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 33	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:15:17 - [512] - Quote I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6164	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:25:19 - [513] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. Argh! I got things to do but the book is across the room. You bastard. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5951	Posted - 2015.01.31 22:41:35 - [514] - Quote As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 33	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:03:34 - [515] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5952	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:05:59 - [516] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world. Makes me think that the Hunger of Nothing connects with it as it never had a physical body ever and as such could be considered 'nothing'. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 33	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:08:28 - [517] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world. Makes me think that the Hunger of Nothing connects with it as it never had a physical body ever and as such could be considered 'nothing'. Good call. It hungers for physical existence, despite being, physically, nothing.
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 27	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:24:09 - [518] - Quote Another ideas would I will put forward. The unknown cloaked structures could possibly be the source of the drifter battleships. If they are an earlier Jovian design, the occupants may have been cryogenic suspension due to the progressive of the disease . This could have occurred during the first or second empires hence the difference in ships.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 34	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:32:24 - [519] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: Another ideas would I will put forward. The unknown cloaked structures could possibly be the source of the drifter battleships. If they are an earlier Jovian design, the occupants may have been cryogenic suspension due to the progressive of the disease . This could have occurred during the first or second empires hence the difference in ships. That's a really good idea that I had never considered. If literally, right now, all the Jovians who will become Drifter pilots are waking up in those very cloaked structures. And to think I shot at one ^^;
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16686	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:37:49 - [520] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 723	Posted - 2015.01.31 23:47:50 - [521] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. This is what leads me to believe that the "many becoming one" part of the prophecy is the reuniting of the Jove and the Sleepers (and others?). I'm inclined to think that the "one becoming four" has to do with the Other inhabiting taking over several key figures, the Empress being one of the four. But, that's the sixth event of the apocalypse, and we're still working on number four. Whatever that is, I think it's the thing being teased for Fan Fest. Vote Sabriz!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 36	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:02:33 - [522] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. This is what leads me to believe that the "many becoming one" part of the prophecy is the reuniting of the Jove and the Sleepers (and others?). I'm inclined to think that the "one becoming four" has to do with the Other inhabiting taking over several key figures, the Empress being one of the four. But, that's the sixth event of the apocalypse, and we're still working on number four. Whatever that is, I think it's the thing being teased for Fan Fest. Oh wow, I had never considered that. The Other is currently 4 people, so in order to combat him, Four forces come together as one entity... Dare I suggest it... Enheduanni, Jovians, Sleepers, Empyreans( Pod Pilots)?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 724	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:16:00 - [523] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. This is what leads me to believe that the "many becoming one" part of the prophecy is the reuniting of the Jove and the Sleepers (and others?). I'm inclined to think that the "one becoming four" has to do with the Other inhabiting taking over several key figures, the Empress being one of the four. But, that's the sixth event of the apocalypse, and we're still working on number four. Whatever that is, I think it's the thing being teased for Fan Fest. Oh wow, I had never considered that. The Other is currently 4 people, so in order to combat him, Four forces come together as one entity... Dare I suggest it... Enheduanni, Jovians, Sleepers, Empyreans( Pod Pilots)? Dunno who the four would be. I assume Jove and sleepers (with sleepers being the "little brother"), but the other two I have no idea on. Same with the Other. I'm kind of assuming that Sansha has been taken over, and maybe the Sisters of Eve, but that's just pure speculation. EDIT: Oh, and I'm halfway thinking the fourth person inhabited by the Other has something to do with the lost Thukker caravan. Vote Sabriz!
Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed Republic University Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:21:01 - [524] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. This is what leads me to believe that the "many becoming one" part of the prophecy is the reuniting of the Jove and the Sleepers (and others?). I'm inclined to think that the "one becoming four" has to do with the Other inhabiting taking over several key figures, the Empress being one of the four. But, that's the sixth event of the apocalypse, and we're still working on number four. Whatever that is, I think it's the thing being teased for Fan Fest. Oh wow, I had never considered that. The Other is currently 4 people, so in order to combat him, Four forces come together as one entity... CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!!!! Sorry I shouldn't drunkpost!
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 724	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:22:14 - [525] - Quote Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I don't recall Templar One as well as you do, Herzog. The only 'big evil' I remember hearing about was the Jovian's phantom enemy, the Enheduanni who, if i'm not mistaken, turned out to be the Sleepers. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong though. The Enheduanni are mainly explained in Theodicy- they were the Jovans who oversaw the motherships' movement to heaven, where the first two Jovian Empires resided. Eventually, they started influencing far too much behind the scenes, alongside the sleepers once they cropped up as a major group within the empire (this part is from Templar One)- with the appearance of the Other (the only bodiless AI, born within the Sleeper construct), the Enheduanni, Sleepers and Jovians all share the same enemy. This is what leads me to believe that the "many becoming one" part of the prophecy is the reuniting of the Jove and the Sleepers (and others?). I'm inclined to think that the "one becoming four" has to do with the Other inhabiting taking over several key figures, the Empress being one of the four. But, that's the sixth event of the apocalypse, and we're still working on number four. Whatever that is, I think it's the thing being teased for Fan Fest. Oh wow, I had never considered that. The Other is currently 4 people, so in order to combat him, Four forces come together as one entity... CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!!!! Sorry I shouldn't drunkpost! There are ways to post that don't involve alcohol? I am not aware of such things. Vote Sabriz!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 39	Posted - 2015.02.01 00:23:17 - [526] - Quote Tiffany 'Tiffs' Succeed wrote: CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!!!! Sorry I shouldn't drunkpost! I think you've just proven you should drunk post, haha! Jovian, Enheduanni, Sleeper, Earth, Wind, Fire and Heart! Captain Hilmar!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6167	Posted - 2015.02.01 01:38:39 - [527] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world. Makes me think that the Hunger of Nothing connects with it as it never had a physical body ever and as such could be considered 'nothing'. Good call. It hungers for physical existence, despite being, physically, nothing. Something without a body... Before the appearance of Caroline's Star, there was a message in IGS from a missing scientist (this is part of the storyline, a developing one outside of the novels) asking for some rather odd stuff. After that a garbled message came through from said scientist claiming that he is being held captive and the initial message was false. So "something" tried to impersonate a long missing and famous scientist and get stuff from us that basically amounted to stuff you might use to build a clone. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16688	Posted - 2015.02.01 01:43:20 - [528] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world. Makes me think that the Hunger of Nothing connects with it as it never had a physical body ever and as such could be considered 'nothing'. Good call. It hungers for physical existence, despite being, physically, nothing. Something without a body... Before the appearance of Caroline's Star, there was a message in IGS from a missing scientist (this is part of the storyline, a developing one outside of the novels) asking for some rather odd stuff. After that a garbled message came through from said scientist claiming that he is being held captive and the initial message was false. So "something" tried to impersonate a long missing and famous scientist and get stuff from us that basically amounted to stuff you might use to build a clone. It's either the Other or the Sleepers who are posing as Tukoss- personally, I believe it's the sleepers. He's apparently trapped in Anoikis- and if the Jovian body parts are being collected, who's to say it couldn't be the Sleepers choosing to do what they can to reverse the Jovian Disease (which they created)? To come together against a common enemy, I believe that could be an option and a very effective tool to encourage cooperation. While it may be possible that the Other is encouraging the collection instead, I see no reason for it to need specifically Jovian biomass- if it wanted a body, it could easily take it- and as it is, it already controls Jamyl.If it wanted a body, I'm quite certain it would have one by now (I've donated a couple of Ambassador Baniya's parts myself- that's how confident I am that it's the sleepers ) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
RonPaul BuyGold Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.01 02:48:59 - [529] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Abrazzar wrote: As far as I know, the Other is a emergent sentience that rose out of the Sleeper collective, which caused some kind of civil war within them after which the Other went off to mess with the Empires. To the best of my knowledge, The Other is the first, and currently only that we know of, sentient, hyper-intelligent entity, born IN the Sleeper's digital world. Makes me think that the Hunger of Nothing connects with it as it never had a physical body ever and as such could be considered 'nothing'. Good call. It hungers for physical existence, despite being, physically, nothing. Something without a body... Before the appearance of Caroline's Star, there was a message in IGS from a missing scientist (this is part of the storyline, a developing one outside of the novels) asking for some rather odd stuff. After that a garbled message came through from said scientist claiming that he is being held captive and the initial message was false. So "something" tried to impersonate a long missing and famous scientist and get stuff from us that basically amounted to stuff you might use to build a clone. Is that the scientist who had some mysterious revelation during the big release of t2 items and went off into the wilderness after leaving a cryptic note about finding the truth? Because, if so, they sure have been playing the long game, haven't they? I always wondered what had happened to him and it's been so long I forgot about him.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 39	Posted - 2015.02.01 03:12:44 - [530] - Quote RonPaul BuyGold wrote: Is that the scientist who had some mysterious revelation during the big release of t2 items and went off into the wilderness after leaving a cryptic note about finding the truth? Because, if so, they sure have been playing the long game, haven't they? I always wondered what had happened to him and it's been so long I forgot about him. I remember hearing, many many years ago, that CCP's design for EVE's fictional story, given how much of the game is player-driven, was to have it literally unfold in real-time as the characters would have it. This means the story has always been planned to play out over the entire lifetime of the game. Whereas normal games release expansions to tell a new story, CCP have aimed for the long game, as you said, and are telling one story in real time, so we feel the gravity of each moment as intensely as it is meant to be felt. I don't know if that's still true but it IS what I remember hearing.

RonPaul BuyGold Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.01 05:29:47 - [531] - Quote Looks like I was thinking of someone else. her name was Ariko and she was in this chronicle http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/crielere/. I sort of wonder what happened to her though.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6172	Posted - 2015.02.02 03:44:35 - [532] - Quote RonPaul BuyGold wrote: Looks like I was thinking of someone else. her name was Ariko and she was in this chronicle http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/short-stories/crielere/. I sort of wonder what happened to her though. Well, in the spirit of "player involvement", she probably got blapped in 2 seconds of hitting a nullsec bubble camp end of story that's all. So... no more content or backstory. Now go look at your ISK or stats. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 214	Posted - 2015.02.02 07:13:11 - [533] - Quote I went to Thera last night to find answers, but only found more questions. -not every planet was destroyed during cataclysm. There are few outer planets that survived it. -sisters were there when it happend. -sun is unstable. -in the center near the sun there are few destroyed structures (talocans and sleepers), unstable wormholes and rifts (propably lethal), some kind of gate mechanisms (talocan), talocan destroyer (either disabled or abandoned) -there are also remnants of Hel supercarrier, described as thukker tribe lost caravan ship. -awaken sleepers are sitting at all above -remnants of the station with samples from thera system. For me it looks like "they" charged gates/wormhole generators by energy coming directly from star. Something went wrong. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 40	Posted - 2015.02.02 11:55:31 - [534] - Quote Thera is somewhere I'd like to visit but i'm currently still a bit unfamiliar with WH space, being new to it. I might have to wait until I'm a bit more experienced, since last I heard it was a volatile place :P
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 728	Posted - 2015.02.02 13:04:38 - [535] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Thera is somewhere I'd like to visit but i'm currently still a bit unfamiliar with WH space, being new to it. I might have to wait until I'm a bit more experienced, since last I heard it was a volatile place :P Take a trusty cloaky scanning frigate. Use Eve Scout to get in. You can find updated connections on their website, and they'll happily scout out the other side of the hole for you. Once you're in, drop a safe spot (the system is massive so plenty of room to do that). Sight see to your hearts content, and you're on your own for getting out. Vote Sabriz!
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 30	Posted - 2015.02.02 13:12:46 - [536] - Quote http://www.schildwall.info/assets/sisi/tiamat/859512/unidentified_2_revealed.jpg
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 215	Posted - 2015.02.02 14:26:00 - [537] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: http://www.schildwall.info/assets/sisi/tiamat/859512/unidentified_2_revealed.jpg They're decloaking finally. What's next? "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16877	Posted - 2015.02.02 14:41:27 - [538] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: http://www.schildwall.info/assets/sisi/tiamat/859512/unidentified_2_revealed.jpg So "Cloaked Jove Outpost" was indeed true It's green- and color me excited A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 32	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:33:27 - [539] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: VTyx Soul wrote: http://www.schildwall.info/assets/sisi/tiamat/859512/unidentified_2_revealed.jpg So "Cloaked Jove Outpost" was indeed true It's green- and color me excited it also matches one of those earlier images you posted.
Esnaelc Sin'led AdAstra. Beach Club Red Whines. 5	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:45:26 - [540] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/109878913053

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16930	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:46:31 - [541] - Quote Esnaelc Sin'led wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/109878913053 Here we go Thanks! It's a Jovian outpost... and they've been monitoring space discreetly all this time, then. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 730	Posted - 2015.02.02 15:53:08 - [542] - Quote Esnaelc Sin'led wrote: http://now.eveonline.com/image/109878913053 disgunbegud.gif Vote Sabriz!
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1518	Posted - 2015.02.02 16:06:32 - [543] - Quote I say these are weapons, not stations. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1065	Posted - 2015.02.02 16:32:06 - [544] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: EDIT: Oh, and I'm halfway thinking the fourth person inhabited by the Other has something to do with the lost Thukker caravan. The remains of the Martyrhan, a carrier from the Lakat-Hro Caravan, were recently found in Thera. http://aurora-arcology.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-arekjaalan-prometheus-seminar.html http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 732	Posted - 2015.02.02 16:37:43 - [545] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: EDIT: Oh, and I'm halfway thinking the fourth person inhabited by the Other has something to do with the lost Thukker caravan. The remains of the Martyrhan, a carrier from the Lakat-Hro Caravan, were recently found in Thera. http://aurora-arcology.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-arekjaalan-prometheus-seminar.html Yeah, that's my basis for that one. It's flimsy though. Vote Sabriz!
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2015.02.02 17:00:21 - [546] - Quote Quote: They are listening to youGÇª This one put a smile on my face... Anyway, nasty looking structure there. I see possible docking platform on the front detail picture. But again, if this is some kind of shapeshifter structure, it could be anything.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16976	Posted - 2015.02.02 17:27:06 - [547] - Quote I've exported the male Jove costume from sisi- I'm making an animation, then I'll take care of the female one. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
DaReaper Net 7 1767	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:29:19 - [548] - Quote I'm still hoping this plays out that we can make permadeath jove characters. It kinda feels odd to me, that is CCP has been discussing permadeath, prolly since working on WoD, then kinda dropped a bit "oh this is just a concept" randomly at eve vegas, then have all these events start unfolding... i don't think ccp had a concept at all, i think it was the plan. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16976	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:38:55 - [549] - Quote DaReaper wrote: I'm still hoping this plays out that we can make permadeath jove characters. It kinda feels odd to me, that is CCP has been discussing permadeath, prolly since working on WoD, then kinda dropped a bit "oh this is just a concept" randomly at eve vegas, then have all these events start unfolding... i don't think ccp had a concept at all, i think it was the plan. If there's permadeth, I'm certain it'd come in the form of sleepers. Jovians have clones, just as we do- but sleepers have one body, are raised within the construct, and would definitely be shoot-on-sight (always suspect). A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1068	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:42:51 - [550] - Quote Please direct your attention to the small red circle. Confirmed Jove listening post or POS-like structure. http://i.imgur.com/LOk1Xaw.jpg http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16976	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:43:36 - [551] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Please direct your attention to the small red circle. Confirmed Jove listening post or POS-like structure. http://i.imgur.com/LOk1Xaw.jpg Yup yup :) I smiled when I saw that A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1068	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:47:20 - [552] - Quote http://now.eveonline.com/image/109584506668 Also clearly shows the Jovian Directorate symbol in the top right and left corners, along with the new symbol featured prominently in the top center. I'm feeling more confident that they are some sort of splinter group of Jovian heretics. Cue The Prophecy trailer. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 734	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:53:04 - [553] - Quote Hmmmm....the new logo is NOT on the picture of the station........ Vote Sabriz!
Esnaelc Sin'led AdAstra. Beach Club Red Whines. 7	Posted - 2015.02.02 19:53:47 - [554] - Quote May be sleepers are a Jove Navy creation. May be those wierd floating turrets are a new type of gunnery. (playable Soon[TM]).
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6174	Posted - 2015.02.02 21:25:17 - [555] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Soldarius wrote: Please direct your attention to the small red circle. Confirmed Jove listening post or POS-like structure. http://i.imgur.com/LOk1Xaw.jpg Yup yup :) I smiled when I saw that Nerdgasm imminent..... I would speculate that the Jove structures become stations (notably these structures are static in their systems like stations) with mission agents but these "heretics" might be a new playable permadeath race. I think CCP is hitting on a new kind of live event. Rather than like what they did for incursions, having those Sansha live events and then a release of "canned" content for incursions, they are releasing a little bit at a time and making it feel like an ongoing live event (as far as dealing with the unknown is concerned which was a good thing about live events) . Nobody really knows. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 40	Posted - 2015.02.02 22:00:07 - [556] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Thera is somewhere I'd like to visit but i'm currently still a bit unfamiliar with WH space, being new to it. I might have to wait until I'm a bit more experienced, since last I heard it was a volatile place :P Take a trusty cloaky scanning frigate. Use Eve Scout to get in. You can find updated connections on their website, and they'll happily scout out the other side of the hole for you. Once you're in, drop a safe spot (the system is massive so plenty of room to do that). Sight see to your hearts content, and you're on your own for getting out. Thanks for the encouragement and advice. I might just do that :) As for the rest of the topic, I am very much wowed to see the Jovian Outposts also finally being revealed. I cannot wait to see where this is going story-wise and to find out what gameplay implications this has!
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 33	Posted - 2015.02.02 22:22:07 - [557] - Quote I've been going through the lore and the sightings in Thera. I personally think the cause of the wormhole appearances and recent explosion may be caused by he soe. I also would put forward that the talcon are not extinct after all they are a species which is always moving on. The recent detonation of a star near Jove space most likely caused the cloaking fields to fail or some uplink data stream for command. There is still another faction from the first empire other than the jovians and sleepers missing from current events, one rumoured to spy and control from behind the scenes the Enheduanni. I can't explain away the difference in design from the eidolon and the new drifter ships. One the weapons in the drifter vessels are different from previous Jovian weapons and appear more advanced, however the ships design is radically different to all current Jovian design philosophy's. So I would lead on to that thought with multiple factions of jovians either post collapse since the nova near Jove space, and older cryogenicicslly suspended faction from an earlier time or the ships may be the product of Jovian talcon and sleeper technology. This idea stems from the name drifter battleship something contract to current naming of Jovian ships. But more keeping with talcon ideology of being nomadic travellers. Also note the drifter battleship was sifted near what appeared to be a wormhole under construction. On a final note the new logo on now.eve features three vertical lines united within and inner emblem possibly signifying an alliance or reunification of separate groups. Any further ideas or speculation welcome
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 40	Posted - 2015.02.02 23:47:32 - [558] - Quote I am still hoping that one day the Enheduanni will not only be returned to as a story device but will also have an in-game presence in some form. Their tech was supposed to be mind-bogglingly cool.
Lucretia DeWinter Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 195	Posted - 2015.02.03 01:12:01 - [559] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians They have such sights to show you...
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 40	Posted - 2015.02.03 01:33:03 - [560] - Quote Lucretia DeWinter wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians They have such sights to show you... Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see.

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 739	Posted - 2015.02.03 01:40:00 - [561] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Lucretia DeWinter wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians They have such sights to show you... Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see. Which is handy.....cause it's dark in here. Vote Sabriz!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16976	Posted - 2015.02.03 01:58:56 - [562] - Quote Here's the male drifter! A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 41	Posted - 2015.02.03 02:24:24 - [563] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! He has a whole body model? Is that common for NPC ships?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6176	Posted - 2015.02.03 02:26:08 - [564] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Well, it would certainly appear that resistance is indeed futile. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 31	Posted - 2015.02.03 02:30:24 - [565] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Borg invasion incoming... http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 740	Posted - 2015.02.03 03:44:30 - [566] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Well, it would certainly appear that resistance is indeed futile. Ok, so it would be hilarious if the rumor about using polarized weapons on the Drifter battleships are true (lower your own resistances to 0 in order to inflict max damage on the Drifter). Resistance wouldn't just be futile, it would be detrimental. Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6178	Posted - 2015.02.03 04:35:35 - [567] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Well, it would certainly appear that resistance is indeed futile. Ok, so it would be hilarious if the rumor about using polarized weapons on the Drifter battleships are true (lower your own resistances to 0 in order to inflict max damage on the Drifter). Resistance wouldn't just be futile, it would be detrimental. argh! I didn't mean it! Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nomistrav Aliastra Gallente Federation 281	Posted - 2015.02.03 10:32:56 - [568] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Looks like the Jove and Sansha did a lot more than share tech necessary for Incursions.... May be the only path to the Jove's survival? Third Place Winner Pod and Planet Fiction Contest YC114
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1311	Posted - 2015.02.03 11:26:05 - [569] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Well, helloo there, did the Borg find their way into Eve? Had to think about this picard/borg speech when I saw them: 'Free will is irrelevant, Death is irrelevant' Time to save the universe again methinks! Also, I'm more curious then ever to find out about the Nation/Jove link, what the hell was Nation doing in that Jove system! The Tsuruma Memorial Ceremony Gallente President Jacus Roden is elected for a second term
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 35	Posted - 2015.02.03 11:42:52 - [570] - Quote Jovians have always worn black suits and some have had cybernetic I plants on display, many capsules still do. Jovian appearance has always been strange and the eyes in particular Erie and dark

Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2015.02.03 11:49:10 - [571] - Quote Few Screenshots from SISI today after minor update. Seekers nor Drifter didn`t attacked, just regular scan. Not that I tryed to attack them with Astero. That thing is massive. Unidentified Structure
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 41	Posted - 2015.02.03 13:17:07 - [572] - Quote I'm deliberately keeping my Zephyr around for this upcoming series of patches. Cannot wait to go see a load of this stuff in person :)
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16982	Posted - 2015.02.03 13:20:53 - [573] - Quote http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2umf0n/pics_unidentified_structure_vs_naglfar_avatar/ Just to show you guys how huge this thing is A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 745	Posted - 2015.02.03 13:38:35 - [574] - Quote We're gonna need bigger boats. Vote Sabriz!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 41	Posted - 2015.02.03 13:48:22 - [575] - Quote Something that's just occurred to me; It might just be a remnant of design, something to be ignored, but why are the sleepers/Drifters scanning these outposts? I'm just thinking out loud for the most part, but It's only really just occurred to me that these outposts aren't necessarily the staging areas for Sleepers and Drifters, but the objective. I wonder if there are resources, tech or personnel that they want from within the structures and they have been scanning everything else to determine if any of those things have been salvaged, raided or removed by other entities and taken elsewhere in space. Woe betide anyone they find to have stolen from them. Also as a small aside; Lux Kontos using your resistances against you reminds me a little bit, though not completely, of the Terran Superweapon that the Empress used at one point.
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 215	Posted - 2015.02.03 13:50:42 - [576] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Just to show you guys how huge this thing isP It's like 3 time the size of empires stations. Allant Doran wrote: It might just be a remnant of design, something to be ignored, but why are the sleepers/Drifters scanning these outposts? Good question. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
tasman devil HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 41	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:22:51 - [577] - Quote I don't know if this has been posted already, but here it is: https://imgur.com/a/Hbqnk I AM scared! :-) I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 746	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:27:08 - [578] - Quote tasman devil wrote: I don't know if this has been posted already, but here it is: https://imgur.com/a/Hbqnk I AM scared! :-) Check 3 posts before you. Vote Sabriz!
tasman devil HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded 42	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:42:37 - [579] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: tasman devil wrote: I don't know if this has been posted already, but here it is: https://imgur.com/a/Hbqnk I AM scared! :-) Check 4 posts before you. EDIT: I can't count. EDIT: I can't read... oh well :-) I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1072	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:47:53 - [580] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Lucretia DeWinter wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Wendrika Hydreiga wrote: Stop right there! That man is not a Jove! His head is not shaped like an egg! Everyone knows Jove have egg shaped heads. Crap you caught me But here's an actual picture of Jovians They have such sights to show you... Where we're going, we don't need eyes to see. Nice reference. Liked that movie enough to buy it on bluRay. If I were a betting man, I would say this thing is big enough to dock supers and titans. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 499	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:52:23 - [581] - Quote I for one welcome our new cenobite-borg master-race ! " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Cheila Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:22:06 - [582] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2umf0n/pics_unidentified_structure_vs_naglfar_avatar/ Just to show you guys how huge this thing is Last night, I extracted the model and thought the scaling was way off - almost 200KM from top to bottom. Looks like it wasn't wrong at all! By the way, how/where are people finding these on Sisi?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6179	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:35:05 - [583] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Here's the male drifter! Well, helloo there, did the Borg find their way into Eve? Had to think about this picard/borg speech when I saw them: 'Free will is irrelevant, Death is irrelevant' Time to save the universe again methinks! Also, I'm more curious then ever to find out about the Nation/Jove link, what the hell was Nation doing in that Jove system! Probably sharing fashion tips. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:54:51 - [584] - Quote Cheila wrote: Last night, I extracted the model and thought the scaling was way off - almost 200KM from top to bottom. Looks like it wasn't wrong at all! By the way, how/where are people finding these on Sisi? Keep jumping around, you will find one eventually. Also, forgot to add this zoom in on unidentified wormhole. WH Other end, does it look familiar with any area of known space? At all.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 748	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:18:06 - [585] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: Cheila wrote: Last night, I extracted the model and thought the scaling was way off - almost 200KM from top to bottom. Looks like it wasn't wrong at all! By the way, how/where are people finding these on Sisi? Keep jumping around, you will find one eventually. Also, forgot to add this zoom in on unidentified wormhole. WH Other end, does it look familiar with any area of known space? At all. Looks like j-space to me. Vote Sabriz!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 16985	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:30:27 - [586] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Sansh Leko wrote: Cheila wrote: Last night, I extracted the model and thought the scaling was way off - almost 200KM from top to bottom. Looks like it wasn't wrong at all! By the way, how/where are people finding these on Sisi? Keep jumping around, you will find one eventually. Also, forgot to add this zoom in on unidentified wormhole. WH Other end, does it look familiar with any area of known space? At all. Looks like j-space to me. I'll take a look later- I can't tell enough from one image, but if it has this nebula within it than we may be onto something interesting. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Jordan Foxer Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:45:35 - [587] - Quote It looks like an entrance into Thera or one of the frigate only shattered systems, which share the same nebula. edit: Thera hole for comparison
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 748	Posted - 2015.02.03 19:54:07 - [588] - Quote Jordan Foxer wrote: It looks like an entrance into Thera or one of the frigate only shattered systems, which share the same nebula. edit: Thera hole for comparison Yeah, looks pretty close. Vote Sabriz!
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 65	Posted - 2015.02.03 20:04:58 - [589] - Quote I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 748	Posted - 2015.02.03 20:09:34 - [590] - Quote Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. Vote Sabriz!

Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 65	Posted - 2015.02.03 20:30:32 - [591] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. Latest update to Sisi gave the tower far more textures. This album includes both before and after: http://imgur.com/a/HfT1l Drifter battleship has intense resists. My stratios struggled to break its outer shields, which seem to have a layer above the hull of the craft visable around it. The antenna move organically. Album of battleship post update: http://imgur.com/a/LF78p
Ilyashen Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 11	Posted - 2015.02.03 22:22:34 - [592] - Quote That battleship doesn't look that great in those pictures, maybe it's too smooth or the reflections look weird. There is also a video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXVb8DUbXPk Since there is already a Drifter 2 placeholder I wonder if they will make a model for that. It seems weird that CCP would put so much work into the ships, stations, and characters unless the players will be interacting with it a lot.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1314	Posted - 2015.02.03 22:24:17 - [593] - Quote Yelp, I'm gonna run to the farthest corner of the universe if these things turn hostile.... Hello primitive capsuleers, are you ready to ready to embrace the new Future? A Future dominated by the Immense Constructs of our Masters Our Masters will show you the path to this Glorious new Future! They have such sights to show you! Embrace your inevitable Future! I admit, I went a bit crazy and this is what popped in my head, along with all the images..... -Welcomes her new Overlords- The Tsuruma Memorial Ceremony Gallente President Jacus Roden is elected for a second term
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 215	Posted - 2015.02.03 22:50:29 - [594] - Quote Rajeet Achmar wrote: Drifter battleship has intense resists. My stratios struggled to break its outer shields, which seem to have a layer above the hull of the craft visable around it. The antenna move organically. Did you tried polarized weapons on them? "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Jordan Foxer Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2015.02.03 22:56:10 - [595] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. That would be a reasonable assumption, except that all the violent wormholes in epicenters show the nebula of the Pure Blind region. It seems likely that that's a placeholder but it's still rather odd. In addition to that, there are epicenters in the other shattered wormholes as well, that do have normal nebulae according to their class. So these Thera-nebula holes could just be placeholders as well, it's hard to tell. I wish there was a bit more influence from the player side in pushing the story forward, actual things to discover and unlock instead of it just being fed to us over time. But alas, it's still cool that this stuff is happening.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 42	Posted - 2015.02.03 23:17:11 - [596] - Quote Ilyashen wrote: That battleship doesn't look that great in those pictures, maybe it's too smooth or the reflections look weird. There is also a video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXVb8DUbXPk Since there is already a Drifter 2 placeholder I wonder if they will make a model for that. It seems weird that CCP would put so much work into the ships, stations, and characters unless the players will be interacting with it a lot. The Lux Kontos weapons look incredibly dangerous. To see how much wash they create and how much they distort space as they fire. Incredible technology.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5970	Posted - 2015.02.03 23:21:14 - [597] - Quote I wonder if the stats are placeholders on SiSi. If they are Jove, they should wipe out battleships easily, let alone cruisers, considering the advanced tech level. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 42	Posted - 2015.02.03 23:25:20 - [598] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: I wonder if the stats are placeholders on SiSi. If they are Jove, they should wipe out battleships easily, let alone cruisers, considering the advanced tech level. We have to remember though that, as impressive as it is still, this is an ancient battleship design. The standards of the drifter ship are going to be nowhere near on par with the modern Jovian Eidolon.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 751	Posted - 2015.02.03 23:49:54 - [599] - Quote Jordan Foxer wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. That would be a reasonable assumption, except that all the violent wormholes in epicenters show the nebula of the Pure Blind region. It seems likely that that's a placeholder but it's still rather odd. In addition to that, there are epicenters in the other shattered wormholes as well, that do have normal nebulae according to their class. So these Thera-nebula holes could just be placeholders too, it's hard to tell. I wish there was a bit more influence from the player side in pushing the story forward, actual things to discover and unlock instead of it just being fed to us over time. But alas, it's still cool that this stuff is happening. Hell, I'd be happy with an in-game news item or something. The drip-fed images from sisi is getting a tad drawn out. Vote Sabriz!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 42	Posted - 2015.02.04 00:08:42 - [600] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Jordan Foxer wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. That would be a reasonable assumption, except that all the violent wormholes in epicenters show the nebula of the Pure Blind region. It seems likely that that's a placeholder but it's still rather odd. In addition to that, there are epicenters in the other shattered wormholes as well, that do have normal nebulae according to their class. So these Thera-nebula holes could just be placeholders too, it's hard to tell. I wish there was a bit more influence from the player side in pushing the story forward, actual things to discover and unlock instead of it just being fed to us over time. But alas, it's still cool that this stuff is happening. Hell, I'd be happy with an in-game news item or something. The drip-fed images from sisi is getting a tad drawn out. I can't imagine an event up to, and including, the seeming return of a Jovian faction in an alliance with Sleepers will go unnoticed and unmentioned by such entities as CONCORD or SoE but who knows.

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 752	Posted - 2015.02.04 00:11:56 - [601] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Jordan Foxer wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: I noticed earlier they looked to go to thera, but I was unable to find any evidence in thera that shows so. Unfinished or maybe there are more systems in the thera vicinity that the wormholes go to? If they're tied to Thera and the shattered holes, I'm guessing they're the other side of the violent wormholes in the epicenters. That would be a reasonable assumption, except that all the violent wormholes in epicenters show the nebula of the Pure Blind region. It seems likely that that's a placeholder but it's still rather odd. In addition to that, there are epicenters in the other shattered wormholes as well, that do have normal nebulae according to their class. So these Thera-nebula holes could just be placeholders too, it's hard to tell. I wish there was a bit more influence from the player side in pushing the story forward, actual things to discover and unlock instead of it just being fed to us over time. But alas, it's still cool that this stuff is happening. Hell, I'd be happy with an in-game news item or something. The drip-fed images from sisi is getting a tad drawn out. I can't imagine an event up to, and including, the seeming return of a Jovian faction in an alliance with Sleepers will go unnoticed and unmentioned by such entities as CONCORD or SoE but who knows. Oh I'm sure there will be stuff and things, I'm just impatient and want the stuff and things now Vote Sabriz!
The Protato Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity. 259	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:37:23 - [602] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: I can't imagine an event up to, and including, the seeming return of a Jovian faction in an alliance with Sleepers will go unnoticed and unmentioned by such entities as CONCORD or SoE but who knows. Actually that's a point. What the f*** are CONCORD going to do about this? And more to the point, how are CCP gonna explain that Stratioses have killed Drifter battleships, which are supposedly Jove tech, but CONCORD battleships which are empire-built with partial Jove tech are utterly untouchable and godlike?
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3160	Posted - 2015.02.04 02:41:43 - [603] - Quote am wondering. The jove station is about 180km high (estimated). Are Jove using warp drives in their elevators? Not to mention that when the elevators would break and you would have to find spare parts by foot using the stairs. This could take up to a month if you are a semi decent athlete (dependent where the room with the spare parts is and if you can walk while sleeping). Even if you parachute down you would break current free fall records, while solving only half of the problem. how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 754	Posted - 2015.02.04 03:07:05 - [604] - Quote Bienator II wrote: am wondering. The jove station is about 180km high (estimated). Are Jove using warp drives in their elevators? Not to mention that when the elevators would break and you would have to find spare parts by foot using the stairs. This could take up to a month if you are a semi decent athlete (dependent where the room with the spare parts is and if you can walk while sleeping). Even if you parachute down you would break current free fall records, while solving only half of the problem. Jovian. Your argument is invalid. Vote Sabriz!
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 229	Posted - 2015.02.04 03:39:52 - [605] - Quote The Protato wrote: Allant Doran wrote: I can't imagine an event up to, and including, the seeming return of a Jovian faction in an alliance with Sleepers will go unnoticed and unmentioned by such entities as CONCORD or SoE but who knows. Actually that's a point. What the f*** are CONCORD going to do about this? And more to the point, how are CCP gonna explain that Stratioses have killed Drifter battleships, which are supposedly Jove tech, but CONCORD battleships which are empire-built with partial Jove tech are utterly untouchable and godlike? I see a few ways. - One, It's not actually "Jove".. They could be using human capsulears with so (SOC?) in ships the Jove make for them to do their dirty work. Not making them too advanced as to not be a threat against them. - Two, it's like the lore for the Empire Navies. We fight them in missions and FW, but they aren't really considered front line forces. The Lore wise, the Empires Navies can take on Concord.. technically they are supposed to be more powerful that Concord, this was to ensure that Concord could never take over. So you just break things up into the low end forces with second rate equipment faces us, front line forces deal with other matters.. Like the theoretical battles against the Sansha over planets wile we hit Sansha staging areas. - Three, these are Jove, but not Current Jove. They are from earlier in the Jove Evolution. Perhaps from and outright earlier age, perhaps from when the Jove migrated to their current space, etc. Having not experienced all of current history, and perhaps not even affected by the Jove Disease (or not as progressed) they might be more willing to work With the Sleepers against a common enemy. - Similar fashion, these are older Jove ships and Stations, and have been discovered by the Sleepers.. having nothing to do with the Current Jove at all. Same way I have a Nightmare, doesn't make me a Sansha Drone :p Personally, I like 1 cause that means we might get to fly them, but not have them OP.. ( All 4 Racial BS's required maybe? lol).
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6182	Posted - 2015.02.04 04:47:23 - [606] - Quote Yeah technically the Jove are still missing. Tease time! Templar One page 386-387: Quote: We were preparing for journey's end. The Enheduanni told us it was time to emerge and rebuild". It was speaking in a language that Vince had never been taught; the same one that Templar Six had spoken. He could see its written alphabet - undecipherable glyphs and symbols - and yet their meaning was perfectly clear to him. They are destroying our home. Why would anyone want to harm us? Vince briefly saw a spectacular city hovering over a vast oceans; then it was ablaze and crumbling into the sea. I helped build this. The ones I love are still there. We achieved harmony. The Other warned they would take it away from us. He was right. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 66	Posted - 2015.02.04 04:54:08 - [607] - Quote Ilyashen wrote: That battleship doesn't look that great in those pictures, maybe it's too smooth or the reflections look weird. There is also a video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXVb8DUbXPk Since there is already a Drifter 2 placeholder I wonder if they will make a model for that. It seems weird that CCP would put so much work into the ships, stations, and characters unless the players will be interacting with it a lot. The reason it doesnt look good t o your eyes is one, the compression from eve screenshot and from imgur is terribad. 2, eve has horrible jaggies even on max, and finally, that when the blue shield is up it has an effect of a large extended shield around the ship.
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 36	Posted - 2015.02.04 19:00:11 - [608] - Quote Perhaps they sleepers have arrived in search of the other and the others like it? They are after all scanning every structure and ships. Perhaps they are seeking out hosts or objects linked to the other entities and first entity. And finally the one image in the distance resembles an eidolon model from previous years.
Lachesiss Void Experiments Void.. 182	Posted - 2015.02.04 21:50:53 - [609] - Quote Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 43	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:09:04 - [610] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case. I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations.

The Protato Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity. 259	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:10:42 - [611] - Quote Sniper Smith wrote: - Two, it's like the lore for the Empire Navies. We fight them in missions and FW, but they aren't really considered front line forces. The Lore wise, the Empires Navies can take on Concord.. technically they are supposed to be more powerful that Concord, this was to ensure that Concord could never take over. So you just break things up into the low end forces with second rate equipment faces us, front line forces deal with other matters.. Like the theoretical battles against the Sansha over planets wile we hit Sansha staging areas. I hate this particular Lore cop-out. It means that either the battle over Caldari Prime to shoot down that titan was just a fun little show put on by the empires in order to keep capsuleers entertained, that FW is really just a kindergarten group and that we have little to no chance of "taking over from the empires" when the time comes, as CCP seems to be suggesting. Urgh.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 757	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:24:09 - [612] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case. I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations. That makes the assumption that the battleships and the outposts are part of the same faction of the Jove. Vote Sabriz!
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:54:03 - [613] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm Lore wise, the Jove only have 3 Motherships. I suspect these are just stations/listening posts. Either new and manned, or old and unmanned.
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 230	Posted - 2015.02.04 23:03:07 - [614] - Quote The Protato wrote: I hate this particular Lore cop-out. It means that either the battle over Caldari Prime to shoot down that titan was just a fun little show put on by the empires in order to keep capsuleers entertained, that FW is really just a kindergarten group and that we have little to no chance of "taking over from the empires" when the time comes, as CCP seems to be suggesting. Urgh. The Battle of Luminare wasn't just capsuleers. There were both factions navies there. The Lore was the reason before why we never could damage the Titan originally. It could be argued that the Navy Dreads were the ones to take the Titan Down, and we were all just dealing with more mid-range faction navies that were sent there without committing the main force. I mean lets be realistic, if either side was willing to commit their main forces, there would have been hundreds of Titans there, thousands of Carriers and Dreads.. Instead there was a dozen of the latter two, and just the lone Titan. Also, remember during the Event the Cal Navy blapped a Concord BS, which is what lead to Concord pulling out and leaving the system. In the end, personally, I don't mind that copout.. I mean CCP hasn't said the Empires are gonna fall. People took the line "The Empires are losing control" and extrapolated that. It could easily just mean that as more and more space is added, more space is under control of Players.. POCO's are players. Player Outposts now are better for manufacturing, etc. That's a loss of control without outright war. Also, Empires are never gonna fall, because that's where the carebears live, and CCP isn't just gonna give a boot to half their subscriber base. So if CCP wants to have a few lore Copouts to keep the Empires more powerful, I'm fine with that. It's a necessary evil in keeping the game from going to hell.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 45	Posted - 2015.02.04 23:42:02 - [615] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case. I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations. That makes the assumption that the battleships and the outposts are part of the same faction of the Jove. True, but despite these new battleships clearly displaying a new corp logo, that doesn't inherently imply they are not originally from and allied to an older jovian faction. After all, the Drifters have yet to be seen opening fire on these structures, so they clearly care about them being intact for one reason or another. Otherwise the drifters; A - Would destroy them themselves if they were hostile to the structures, B - Not even bother hanging out around them, if they were neutral to the structures. After all, why bother finding them and scanning them in that case?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 758	Posted - 2015.02.05 00:06:26 - [616] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case. I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations. That makes the assumption that the battleships and the outposts are part of the same faction of the Jove. True, but despite these new battleships clearly displaying a new corp logo, that doesn't inherently imply they are not originally from and allied to an older jovian faction. After all, the Drifters have yet to be seen opening fire on these structures, so they clearly care about them being intact for one reason or another. Otherwise the drifters; A - Would destroy them themselves if they were hostile to the structures, B - Not even bother hanging out around them, if they were neutral to the structures. After all, why bother finding them and scanning them in that case? They're interested in them the same way the Sleepers are. A couple of folks have suggested that the Drifters are Talocan and I tend to agree with that idea. Here's how I see it: Something wonked up royally in Jove space, resulting Caroline's Star. Whatever that was, it broke something about the unidentified structures, causing them to become visible. This attracts the attention of the Sleepers, who begin sending drones into kspace to see if they can glean any info on what has gone wrong (mainly because it also wrecked Thera and the shattered holes and, well, they kinda live there). Attracted by the new Sleeper activities, the Drifters try to break in to the Sleeper's data systems in kspace (hence why all the Sleeper Caches are partially damaged and "ransacked). And then the structures decloak fully. Behold, the.....the um....(let's see here...Sleepers.....Drifters.......????ers?....."they are listening to you"....ah, I got it!) The Listeners! .....who are also trying to figure out what the hell happened in Jove space that screwed up their stations all the way out here. They're decloaking them fully now to put a feeler out to the Sleepers and Drifters to see what relations might be like between the three groups. Full disclosure: I expect none of that to be true. Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6182	Posted - 2015.02.05 00:56:32 - [617] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Lachesiss wrote: Would be interesting if the construct was actually an original Jovian mothership.. and its just parked vertical atm I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case. I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations. That makes the assumption that the battleships and the outposts are part of the same faction of the Jove. True, but despite these new battleships clearly displaying a new corp logo, that doesn't inherently imply they are not originally from and allied to an older jovian faction. After all, the Drifters have yet to be seen opening fire on these structures, so they clearly care about them being intact for one reason or another. Otherwise the drifters; A - Would destroy them themselves if they were hostile to the structures, B - Not even bother hanging out around them, if they were neutral to the structures. After all, why bother finding them and scanning them in that case? They're interested in them the same way the Sleepers are. A couple of folks have suggested that the Drifters are Talocan and I tend to agree with that idea. Here's how I see it: Something wonked up royally in Jove space, resulting Caroline's Star. Whatever that was, it broke something about the unidentified structures, causing them to become visible. This attracts the attention of the Sleepers, who begin sending drones into kspace to see if they can glean any info on what has gone wrong (mainly because it also wrecked Thera and the shattered holes and, well, they kinda live there). Attracted by the new Sleeper activities, the Drifters try to break in to the Sleeper's data systems in kspace (hence why all the Sleeper Caches are partially damaged and "ransacked). And then the structures decloak fully. Behold, the.....the um....(let's see here...Sleepers.....Drifters.......????ers?....."they are listening to you"....ah, I got it!) The Listeners! .....who are also trying to figure out what the hell happened in Jove space that screwed up their stations all the way out here. They're decloaking them fully now to put a feeler out to the Sleepers and Drifters to see what relations might be like between the three groups. Full disclosure: I expect none of that to be true. And the ability of sleepers to control wormholes has long been implied by the things they drop. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 45	Posted - 2015.02.05 13:23:31 - [618] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: And the ability of sleepers to control wormholes has long been implied by the things they drop. Exactly. Isn't one of the upcoming additions, that we're not talking about much here, is those massive structures that are maintaining Wormholes that we cannot interact with? Seems like that technology is also being brought to bare at the moment.
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:48:36 - [619] - Quote One of structures is also in EVE gate system. And they got that fog or whatever it is surounding it again. EVE Gate
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1077	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:02:06 - [620] - Quote I was pouring over old news stories when I came across this interesting tidbit: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/intaki-spiritual-leader-announces-marriage/ Note the name of Vika Kuvakei. Her background and ancestry match that of Sansha Kuvakei, leader of Sansha's Nation. Since the nation has been linked to w-space, I thought I would throw this out there. There is also this thing: http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php?topic=5378.0;wap The original news dispatch seems to have been lost. Fortunately, it seems to have been saved to back-up at battle-clinic. Also found this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=330427 Seems she was involved in implant research. As one person says, not terribly surprising. edit: oh, look. More. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=76943 I'll keep digging tonight. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17015	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:18:55 - [621] - Quote Soldarius wrote: I was pouring over old news stories when I came across this interesting tidbit: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/intaki-spiritual-leader-announces-marriage/ Note the name of Vika Kuvakei. Her background and ancestry match that of Sansha Kuvakei, leader of Sansha's Nation. Since the nation has been linked to w-space, I thought I would throw this out there. There is also this thing: http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php?topic=5378.0;wap The original news dispatch seems to have been lost. Fortunately, it seems to have been saved to back-up at battle-clinic. Also found this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=330427 Seems she was involved in implant research. As one person says, not terribly surprising. edit: oh, look. More. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=76943 I'll keep digging tonight. Coincidentally, there was a resurgence of Nation activity at or around this time. You... may have discovered more than ever before about the origins of modern Sansha right there. That's amazing A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6187	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:49:59 - [622] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Soldarius wrote: I was pouring over old news stories when I came across this interesting tidbit: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/intaki-spiritual-leader-announces-marriage/ Note the name of Vika Kuvakei. Her background and ancestry match that of Sansha Kuvakei, leader of Sansha's Nation. Since the nation has been linked to w-space, I thought I would throw this out there. There is also this thing: http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php?topic=5378.0;wap The original news dispatch seems to have been lost. Fortunately, it seems to have been saved to back-up at battle-clinic. Also found this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=330427 Seems she was involved in implant research. As one person says, not terribly surprising. edit: oh, look. More. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=76943 I'll keep digging tonight. Coincidentally, there was a resurgence of Nation activity at or around this time. You... may have discovered more than ever before about the origins of modern Sansha right there. That's amazing Holy freaking cow. Lore-digging can be epic. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 290	Posted - 2015.02.06 11:41:44 - [623] - Quote Maybe this awesome article (and the ones linked to it in the text) brings some more light to what might be going on: https://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2015/02/04/pathway-to-the-next/
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 502	Posted - 2015.02.06 12:43:16 - [624] - Quote The quote on the Drifter logo at now.eveonline.com says "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." This is quote from Einstein' s "Geometry and Experience". It is a papper that deals in hyper-eucledian mathematics and spatial manipulation. Does that sound familiar ? It should. According to in-game description The Talocan were masters of spatial maniulation and hyper-eucledian mathematics. We don't know much about the Talocan but what if they were also Jove in origin like the Sleepers ? Maybe the Talocan were in fact a splinter faction within the Sleeper themselves. After all fro what knowledge we are able to gather from them, at some point they have coexisted. They may be the fabled "little brother" - possibly they are/were the least numerous or the "newest" splinter within the Jove. Somehow all of these recent events point to a rather interesting chain of events that involve the (true) Jove, The Sleepers and The Talocan and Sansha. Uuuuuu can't wait for Fanfest! " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5986	Posted - 2015.02.06 14:02:23 - [625] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: It is a papper that deals in hyper-eucledian mathematics and spatial manipulation. So the 'SSS' of the logo means School of Spatial Singularities maybe. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 37	Posted - 2015.02.06 14:51:00 - [626] - Quote https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEwOyBYWSAU Scope news report
Sonia Reve Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.06 14:52:01 - [627] - Quote The tease is on by CCP ! Here >Official Video Knock yourselves out
Sonia Reve Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.06 14:53:01 - [628] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEwOyBYWSAU Scope news report Damn you are fast.. beat me to it
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5987	Posted - 2015.02.06 15:32:00 - [629] - Quote I went around a bit and checked on the positions of those structures and found them all to be in systems with planets that have a off-axis orbit. Wonder if that is a connection or if such systems are just really common. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 37	Posted - 2015.02.06 15:47:01 - [630] - Quote Sonia Reve wrote: VTyx Soul wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEwOyBYWSAU Scope news report Damn you are fast.. beat me to it By about a minute :)

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 778	Posted - 2015.02.06 16:53:41 - [631] - Quote All glory to Bob Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6189	Posted - 2015.02.06 17:26:17 - [632] - Quote One thing I always liked about Eve is that if you are into sci fi, you can track influence from everywhere. So I wonder if The Other is a concept drawn from The Mad Mind and Vanamonde of "City and the Stars", an Arthur C. Clark novel I read back in 1989, a college course in Science Fiction. (the only class I ever took that did not require 2 gallons of coffee to get half motivated for) Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1081	Posted - 2015.02.06 18:36:40 - [633] - Quote I reread Theodicy last night. I am now convinced that the volume integral logo will be the logo of the Talocan, and they are coming back. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 37	Posted - 2015.02.06 18:58:05 - [634] - Quote Soldarius wrote: I reread Theodicy last night. I am now convinced that the volume integral logo will be the logo of the Talocan, and they are coming back. They never really left, they are a race which moves from place to place never settling down.
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 66	Posted - 2015.02.06 19:45:27 - [635] - Quote So fun fact, the drifters got what looks to be their final update today. I engaged two of them with my stratios like i did a few days ago, and it was alpha'd off the field in 3 hits doing about 3-7k damage each. And from what i heard from others after you deplete their blue shields they fire a super weapon that does immense damage. im legit scurred now ccp
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 34	Posted - 2015.02.06 19:51:45 - [636] - Quote Rajeet Achmar wrote: So fun fact, the drifters got what looks to be their final update today. I engaged two of them with my stratios like i did a few days ago, and it was alpha'd off the field in 3 hits doing about 3-7k damage each. And from what i heard from others after you deplete their blue shields they fire a super weapon that does immense damage. im legit scurred now ccp Bring on the super rats! http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Rajeet Achmar Calibrated Chaos Dead Terrorists 66	Posted - 2015.02.06 20:01:25 - [637] - Quote Narcotic Gryffin wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: So fun fact, the drifters got what looks to be their final update today. I engaged two of them with my stratios like i did a few days ago, and it was alpha'd off the field in 3 hits doing about 3-7k damage each. And from what i heard from others after you deplete their blue shields they fire a super weapon that does immense damage. im legit scurred now ccp Bring on the super rats! I hope they stay this way, sick off lame wussy crap rats that can be solo'd with a t3.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 779	Posted - 2015.02.06 20:03:49 - [638] - Quote http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2v05pt/from_myronik_new_bads_confirmed_named_vigilant/ Well then.... Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6190	Posted - 2015.02.06 20:24:21 - [639] - Quote Narcotic Gryffin wrote: Rajeet Achmar wrote: So fun fact, the drifters got what looks to be their final update today. I engaged two of them with my stratios like i did a few days ago, and it was alpha'd off the field in 3 hits doing about 3-7k damage each. And from what i heard from others after you deplete their blue shields they fire a super weapon that does immense damage. im legit scurred now ccp Bring on the super rats! I've posted this before, but must post it again. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
The Protato Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity. 259	Posted - 2015.02.06 20:37:20 - [640] - Quote Just like to thank you guys for the incredible job you're doing. As a reward, I've bought you all tickets for a ride on the HYPE TRAIN. GET HYPE. CHOO CHOO.

Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 45	Posted - 2015.02.07 00:14:44 - [641] - Quote Well colour me surprised. It really does seem, more and more each day, like these guys really are the Talocan after all. This is very cool. Makes me wonder if the Takmahl and Yan Jung are really gone too :P
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 783	Posted - 2015.02.07 00:53:14 - [642] - Quote Yeah, lore hounds might want to start putting together all the info available on the Talocan. EDIT: oh, and if the endgame to all this is player built stargates, then combining Talocan and Sleeper tech to do it makes sense. Vote Sabriz!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17076	Posted - 2015.02.07 01:00:50 - [643] - Quote Well it looks like I've missed a lot in one day- this is interesting- i'll have to hop on SISI to see the Drifters again :) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 45	Posted - 2015.02.07 01:06:53 - [644] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Well it looks like I've missed a lot in one day- this is interesting- i'll have to hop on SISI to see the Drifters again :) As I have no SISI access, could you please do your best to confirm some damage numbers and whether or not they really DO have a superweapon-esque attack once you deplete their shields? These things sound monstrously strong, to the point that my corp mates just aren't believing the stated damage outputs of these Drifters. So much excitement right now, but perhaps interestingly enough, this question now holds the most intrigue for me; ''Sleepers working with Talocan... WHY!?''
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17077	Posted - 2015.02.07 01:27:50 - [645] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/3GO241a.png The Drifter Battleships now have the logo, their Lux Kontos turrets, and are even better looking. Also, the structures have a matching shader to them now. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6192	Posted - 2015.02.07 01:41:05 - [646] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://i.imgur.com/3GO241a.png The Drifter Battleships now have the logo, their Lux Kontos turrets, and are even better looking. Also, the structures have a matching shader to them now. Are those veins under its... skin? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17077	Posted - 2015.02.07 01:45:50 - [647] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: http://i.imgur.com/3GO241a.png The Drifter Battleships now have the logo, their Lux Kontos turrets, and are even better looking. Also, the structures have a matching shader to them now. Are those veins under its... skin? It looks almost like battle damage It looks very nice in person A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17081	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:31:59 - [648] - Quote So it has a superweapon activated now- I watched a Nightmare shoot the overshield down, then get one-shotted by a superweapon with a really cool sound effect. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 786	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:33:34 - [649] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: So it has a superweapon activated now- I watched a Nightmare shoot the overshield down, then get one-shotted by a superweapon with a really cool sound effect. Oh, I am happy. Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6194	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:38:13 - [650] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: So it has a superweapon activated now- I watched a Nightmare shoot the overshield down, then get one-shotted by a superweapon with a really cool sound effect. OMG OMG OMG This is stupendous. Epic. Horrible. We're doomed. Doomed I tell you. Doomed. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17082	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:40:06 - [651] - Quote If any of you can get on SISI, come to the masstest system (you can use moveme) This one will be gone soon, but we can look for others in enarby systems A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6194	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:42:00 - [652] - Quote Is anybody realizing that this is implied to be a BS sized ship (by my reckoning) with what amounts to a DD? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 45	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:42:50 - [653] - Quote One-shot a nightmare? Wow, so the damage numbers on it sound true. That's amazing.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6194	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:46:30 - [654] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: One-shot a nightmare? Wow, so the damage numbers on it sound true. That's amazing. It will probably take fleets to take these down, meaning it's like the Incursion mothership scenario without the incursion. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 46	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:47:18 - [655] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: One-shot a nightmare? Wow, so the damage numbers on it sound true. That's amazing. It will probably take fleets to take these down, meaning it's like the Incursion mothership scenario without the incursion. Unless we have yet to confirm whether or not their extreme damage comes from some kind of resistance-inverting mechanic.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5993	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:47:26 - [656] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Is anybody realizing that this is implied to be a BS sized ship (by my reckoning) with what amounts to a DD? Fitting to Jove level of miniaturization. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6194	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:49:35 - [657] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: One-shot a nightmare? Wow, so the damage numbers on it sound true. That's amazing. It will probably take fleets to take these down, meaning it's like the Incursion mothership scenario without the incursion. Unless we have yet to confirm whether or not their extreme damage comes from some kind of resistance-inverting mechanic. You mean this might be the same weapon that Jamyl Sarum used? Maybe the one that makes your own shields implode on the ship? Anybody got video of a ship getting the smackdown from this weapon? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 5993	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:51:46 - [658] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Allant Doran wrote: One-shot a nightmare? Wow, so the damage numbers on it sound true. That's amazing. It will probably take fleets to take these down, meaning it's like the Incursion mothership scenario without the incursion. Unless we have yet to confirm whether or not their extreme damage comes from some kind of resistance-inverting mechanic. Which would then mean polarized weapons are the thing to fit against these. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17082	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:52:43 - [659] - Quote The weapon only fires once, after which it has a "cooldown" where it becomes normal- that is, no overshield or superweapon- but it still uses extremely powerful weaponry. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 46	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:58:40 - [660] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The weapon only fires once, after which it has a "cooldown" where it becomes normal- that is, no overshield or superweapon- but it still uses extremely powerful weaponry. How many of them do you generally have on grid at once?

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17084	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:59:39 - [661] - Quote Only one. Having a couple people should guarantee destroying it, but it's still extremely powerful. It will not attack unless agressed first. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6195	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:00:49 - [662] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: The weapon only fires once, after which it has a "cooldown" where it becomes normal- that is, no overshield or superweapon- but it still uses extremely powerful weaponry. Guys guys I have a plan. Take the blue shields down to like 1 point and then warp out but leave one guy behind in a rookie ship to take out that last point. After it uses the weapon, get back on grid. I'm really good at this. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 34	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:03:47 - [663] - Quote If I can get my test client to work again I shall join in, I wish to see what it can do. http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29158	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:07:57 - [664] - Quote WTB his res pic of full ship [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17084	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:32:28 - [665] - Quote Anslo wrote: WTB his res pic of full ship Not too high-res, but here's a full shot: http://i.imgur.com/8fPC5I8.png A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29166	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:41:49 - [666] - Quote Grab a tanky dual web/painter Loki. Tackle down a drifter. Then use a blap dread on it. See what happens. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 787	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:07:53 - [667] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Anslo wrote: WTB his res pic of full ship Not too high-res, but here's a full shot: http://i.imgur.com/8fPC5I8.png God that looks good. Vote Sabriz!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17086	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:01:22 - [668] - Quote Anslo wrote: Grab a tanky dual web/painter Loki. Tackle down a drifter. Then use a blap dread on it. See what happens. Well if you do it during overshield, it'll blap you first :P A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 35	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:01:23 - [669] - Quote Drifter confirmed to have Godzilla breath lazor of death. Melted my golem in .2 seconds. http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17086	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:03:23 - [670] - Quote Narcotic Gryffin wrote: Drifter confirmed to have Godzilla breath lazor of death. Melted my golem in .2 seconds. It sounded so cool- like the horn of the apocalypse And I love CCP Manifest, haha- I'm saving that chatlog A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 35	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:19:04 - [671] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Narcotic Gryffin wrote: Drifter confirmed to have Godzilla breath lazor of death. Melted my golem in .2 seconds. It sounded so cool- like the horn of the apocalypse And I love CCP Manifest, haha- I'm saving that chatlog My best guess so far is that the blue shield absorbs and collects damage to charge these new doomsday lazors from hell. Which would explain why they are only used upon shield depletion. http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6196	Posted - 2015.02.07 05:49:31 - [672] - Quote To not have some epic live event to herald new content as epic as this would be a sin. If this were happening back in 2009 - 2011 even a thread like this would be scrolled to page 4 in 20 minutes and the RL casualties would be chalked up to total nerdgasms. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
soorajgk1 India Corp 0	Posted - 2015.02.07 06:31:33 - [673] - Quote so CCP wil allow capitals in highsec
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6196	Posted - 2015.02.07 06:32:53 - [674] - Quote soorajgk1 wrote: so CCP wil allow capitals in highsec So they can get one-shotted by some strange superweapon that sounds like the horn of doom or something. I like it. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1330	Posted - 2015.02.07 09:15:20 - [675] - Quote Suddenly, the Battle of Vak'Atioth is relevant again. Also, the Lux weapon shares similarities with the Concord Killbeam, that one also comes with a cooldown & is capable of oneshotting stuff (to a much greater degree) The killbeam is after all Jove tech (ingame lore explanation for the Concord superweapon) Wonderfully demonstrated roughly 2 years ago by a bunch of players: Capsuleers fail to gank Concord So the Jove are returning, but they're not the Jove we know, considering their difference in design. Might be CCP preparing to allow capitals in highsec? been talked about, but CCP needs a reason to allow it. A Jove attack would be a good enough reason I think? When stargates glitch: The Peralles mystery Gallente President Jacus Roden is elected for a second term
Hal Morsh Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno. 248	Posted - 2015.02.07 20:11:38 - [676] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oZgCrGmvDyI#t=47 Drifter superweapon in action. CCP - Outpost code is scary.
Benilopax The Ashen Lion Syndicate The Ashen Syndicate 431	Posted - 2015.02.07 20:31:26 - [677] - Quote Hal Morsh wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oZgCrGmvDyI#t=47 Drifter superweapon in action. Good... God..... ...
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1904	Posted - 2015.02.07 20:38:54 - [678] - Quote No-one has tried polarised weapons on them yet have they?
Kayba Kanade Ireco Industries Zombie Pony Express 0	Posted - 2015.02.07 21:22:49 - [679] - Quote Has the theory come up that Caroline's Star was the result of another Terran Superweapon? if Jamyl found one, Jovians, sleepers, even Sansha could all have found one. (I only thought of it after watching the Scope video that theorized it was a Jovian weapon aimed at Sansha.)
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 290	Posted - 2015.02.07 21:43:52 - [680] - Quote I just realized... Doesn't the Caroline's Star nebula look suspiciuosly like an eye? An ever vigilant eye that can be seen from all known space, that may in turn see all those corners of the cluster? Which seems to be located in deep Jove space? Whose green color reminds a lot of the green hulls of the old Jove ships?

VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 38	Posted - 2015.02.07 21:49:51 - [681] - Quote Kayba Kanade wrote: Has the theory come up that Caroline's Star was the result of another Terran Superweapon? if Jamyl found one, Jovians, sleepers, even Sansha could all have found one. (I only thought of it after watching the Scope video that theorized it was a Jovian weapon aimed at Sansha.) Probably linked to theras access, the first star in 08 or 09 was soe entering wh space
The Protato Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity. 260	Posted - 2015.02.08 02:39:04 - [682] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: No-one has tried polarised weapons on them yet have they? NO and I don't get why not because it makes absolute sense judging by what Vak'Atioh did to resistanced shields. I would but I don't have SiSi.
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 42	Posted - 2015.02.08 02:53:57 - [683] - Quote The Protato wrote: Nevyn Auscent wrote: No-one has tried polarised weapons on them yet have they? NO and I don't get why not because it makes absolute sense judging by what Vak'Atioh did to resistanced shields. I would but I don't have SiSi. Well 2 reasons really. 1. They aren't seeded just like all the faction crapola 2. Everyone on test server is lazy http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1766	Posted - 2015.02.08 03:27:00 - [684] - Quote all im gonna say is, the fanfest trailer better be some high quality lore-sex involving capsuleer fleets versus these guys, preferably in a "final battle of Serentiy" style slugfest
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1518	Posted - 2015.02.08 05:59:08 - [685] - Quote Hal Morsh wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oZgCrGmvDyI#t=47 Drifter superweapon in action. Wtf.. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29696	Posted - 2015.02.08 08:12:31 - [686] - Quote Sorry, posted this in the wrong thread. Basically, I did not encounter a super weapon, nor did I die, or even come close. If you look in the overview of the ship with damage, there are two other Drifter battleship wrecks. I went through five of them, with a spawn of 5 circadians in between the third and fourth Drifter spawn. Was really just an afk carrier rep (non-triage) and sig tank deal, and I checked my damage logs, and no volleys were notable. They all ranged from 1k to 2k per. Maybe they're broken today, on Sisi. Maybe they don't respond to fighter damage, or drone damage. The hypothesis that the shields might gather damage to spit it out all at once seemed like a plausible one. I'll get back on and try using triple Vindicator DPS next. (I'm being a travelling carebear and brought fully fit Vindicators for the rains, in the carrier ship maintenance bays) Something like Bastion mode, for being completely immobile... is probably not the best way to try to survive a Drifter. Spotted an unidentified wormhole beacon in Scolluzer just now, if anyone is interested in seeing Drifters firsthand. Another in Korama President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Ro Fenrios Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew. 46	Posted - 2015.02.08 13:23:08 - [687] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Sorry, posted this in the wrong thread. Basically, I did not encounter a super weapon, nor did I die, or even come close. If you look in the overview of the ship with damage, there are two other Drifter battleship wrecks. I went through five of them, with a spawn of 5 circadians in between the third and fourth Drifter spawn. Was really just an afk carrier rep (non-triage) and sig tank deal, and I checked my damage logs, and no volleys were notable. They all ranged from 1k to 2k per. Maybe they're broken today, on Sisi. Maybe they don't respond to fighter damage, or drone damage. The hypothesis that the shields might gather damage to spit it out all at once seemed like a plausible one. I'll get back on and try using triple Vindicator DPS next. (I'm being a travelling carebear and brought fully fit Vindicators for the rains, in the carrier ship maintenance bays) Something like Bastion mode, for being completely immobile... is probably not the best way to try to survive a Drifter. Spotted an unidentified wormhole beacon in Scolluzer just now, if anyone is interested in seeing Drifters firsthand. Another in Korama I think they just recently added the superweapon (and buffed it), no? When you did this test?
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29696	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:16:24 - [688] - Quote mm, about 12 hours ago? Tried to find another unidentified wormhole outside of highsec, but failed. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Nevase Prometeus University of Caille Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.02.08 14:37:32 - [689] - Quote Hal Morsh wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oZgCrGmvDyI#t=47 Drifter superweapon in action. ...speechless.....
Dave Stark 7357	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:24:13 - [690] - Quote just took one on in a tengu... got through the blue shields then it just 1shot my tengu. although, if the normal shields are like the blue layer the things are made out of paper... but stacked like bricks of printer paper that still hurt like a truck when some one throws one at your head.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17090	Posted - 2015.02.08 16:27:54 - [691] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Sorry, posted this in the wrong thread. Basically, I did not encounter a super weapon, nor did I die, or even come close. If you look in the overview of the ship with damage, there are two other Drifter battleship wrecks. I went through five of them, with a spawn of 5 circadians in between the third and fourth Drifter spawn. Was really just an afk carrier rep (non-triage) and sig tank deal, and I checked my damage logs, and no volleys were notable. They all ranged from 1k to 2k per. Maybe they're broken today, on Sisi. Maybe they don't respond to fighter damage, or drone damage. The hypothesis that the shields might gather damage to spit it out all at once seemed like a plausible one. I'll get back on and try using triple Vindicator DPS next. (I'm being a travelling carebear and brought fully fit Vindicators for the rains, in the carrier ship maintenance bays) Something like Bastion mode, for being completely immobile... is probably not the best way to try to survive a Drifter. Spotted an unidentified wormhole beacon in Scolluzer just now, if anyone is interested in seeing Drifters firsthand. Another in Korama If you were using drones to attack it, it targeted and destroyed one of the drones with its superweapon. It will only target you with it if you have aggression- we had a guy in a carrier TP it and then use drones to test the weapon; it fired on him, and not his drone. And as for bastion- the turrets, sure- but the doomsday has no tracking. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
The Protato Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity. 261	Posted - 2015.02.08 17:26:05 - [692] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Sorry, posted this in the wrong thread. Basically, I did not encounter a super weapon, nor did I die, or even come close. If you look in the overview of the ship with damage, there are two other Drifter battleship wrecks. I went through five of them, with a spawn of 5 circadians in between the third and fourth Drifter spawn. Was really just an afk carrier rep (non-triage) and sig tank deal, and I checked my damage logs, and no volleys were notable. They all ranged from 1k to 2k per. Maybe they're broken today, on Sisi. Maybe they don't respond to fighter damage, or drone damage. The hypothesis that the shields might gather damage to spit it out all at once seemed like a plausible one. I'll get back on and try using triple Vindicator DPS next. (I'm being a travelling carebear and brought fully fit Vindicators for the rains, in the carrier ship maintenance bays) Something like Bastion mode, for being completely immobile... is probably not the best way to try to survive a Drifter. Spotted an unidentified wormhole beacon in Scolluzer just now, if anyone is interested in seeing Drifters firsthand. Another in Korama If you were using drones to attack it, it targeted and destroyed one of the drones with its superweapon. It will only target you with it if you have aggression- we had a guy in a carrier TP it and then use drones to test the weapon; it fired on him, and not his drone. And as for bastion- the turrets, sure- but the doomsday has no tracking. How did the carrier fare?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17092	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:19:48 - [693] - Quote He had it supertanked- the doomsday took out about a quarter of his armor HP A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1768	Posted - 2015.02.08 18:28:23 - [694] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: just took one on in a tengu... got through the blue shields then it just 1shot my tengu. although, if the normal shields are like the blue layer the things are made out of paper... but stacked like bricks of printer paper that still hurt like a truck when some one throws one at your head. I can attest to the power of paper brick, when I was a wee lad and worked for fedex to pay for college, the only thing we had to amuse ourselves was throwing 20 pound stacks of paper at eachother, than and sneaking up behind our bosses with a megaphone and turning the siren on
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1906	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:43:57 - [695] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: He had it supertanked- the doomsday took out about a quarter of his armor HP Assuming resists actually work, how much damage was that?
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29699	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:58:27 - [696] - Quote In the first round of 3 Drifters, I didn't lose any fighters. It wasn't until the fourth and fifth that I lost one each. Those first three Drifters were keen on shooting a Phobos, rather than drones. I wanted to find more Drifters last night, to test other weapon types and see whether drones would confused the Drifters consistently. I'll try again later, probably. That's pretty funny if the superweapon activation clashes with the NPC AI and its prioritization of drones vs hull. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Serene Repose 2184	Posted - 2015.02.09 02:16:17 - [697] - Quote This is all very interesting. I took notes. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29730	Posted - 2015.02.09 04:50:07 - [698] - Quote Doomsdays not using tracking is news to me. I was under the impression that non-MWD Phobos might have sig-tanked the Drifters. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17092	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:14:04 - [699] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: In the first round of 3 Drifters, I didn't lose any fighters. It wasn't until the fourth and fifth that I lost one each. Those first three Drifters were keen on shooting a Phobos, rather than drones. I wanted to find more Drifters last night, to test other weapon types and see whether drones would confused the Drifters consistently. I'll try again later, probably. That's pretty funny if the superweapon activation clashes with the NPC AI and its prioritization of drones vs hull. Hold on a minute- just to confirm, you're talking about this, right? Because I have never seen or heard of multiple drifter battleships appearing together. They appear alone in systems with both an unidentified structure and an unidentified wormhole, and warp between them independently of the seeker drones. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17092	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:17:06 - [700] - Quote Rain, did you say you encountered groups of drifters? A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29730	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:39:57 - [701] - Quote at one point, yeah, I had three Drifters shooting my Phobos. None of them activated a super weapon. I didn't have wrecks enabled in overview, but there is one in the scene somewhere. I can't spot it at the moment. If it was easier to find another drifter womrhole beacon, I could continue testing them. My DPS configuration was fighters delegated to cruisers, who had activated the fighters on the Drifters. So maybe somewhere in there, the Drifters got confused and never DD'd me. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17095	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:47:19 - [702] - Quote Interesting- this necessitates more testing I'm just curious as to how more than one spawned. No additional ships have appeared after one was destroyed in any of the engagements I've seen so far. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29732	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:53:13 - [703] - Quote dunno, the number of Drifters doesn't coincide with the number of caps I had on grid, either. Had 4 carriers, 3 Drifters showed up. After that it was a group of 5 Circadians, then two Drifters that trickled in one at a time. If it's a bug, I'm not filing a support ticket. It took me way too long to find the beacon in the first place, and I want CCP to use their damn forums more. So i'm just leaving the report here. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Dave Stark 7357	Posted - 2015.02.09 08:58:34 - [704] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Doomsdays not using tracking is news to me. I was under the impression that non-MWD Phobos might have sig-tanked the Drifters. if it does then the superweapon has really high tracking. Can't remember what my transversal was but my tengu was going at over 700ms with an afterburner and max skilled links from a claymore and it still got blapped by the super weapon.
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 503	Posted - 2015.02.09 15:25:00 - [705] - Quote So the Drifter faction finally has a description : "Emerging from the ruins of the Sleeper civilization spread throughout Anoikis - otherwise known as "W-space"- the Drifters represent a tremendous challenge and perhaps a dire threat to the empires and capsuleers alike. Seemingly the inheritors of a legacy left behind by some of the most ancient Jove, the Drifters are unafraid to wield tremendous power in response to any who get in their way. In this regard, the Drifters are a very different conundrum than the relatively benign presence that was the Jove Empire." Also their member corp - Vigilant Tyrannos (which seems to be their militant wing ) : "CONCORD intelligence reports indicate that Drifter military formations are operating under a single command structure represented by an enclave level organization with the designation "Vigilant Tyrannos". Despite monitoring the movements of ships broadcasting the identifier of this organization, no further information as to the motivation or goals of this force has been gleaned." So they are the the remnants of the Sleepers?...hmm... Also their home station is in M-MD3B , deep within the Great Wildlands, Thukker Tribe territory... " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Luna Arindale Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District 50	Posted - 2015.02.09 15:49:15 - [706] - Quote So the Sleepers are awake then? Oh they must be angry.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6202	Posted - 2015.02.09 17:51:01 - [707] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: So the Drifter faction finally has a description : "Emerging from the ruins of the Sleeper civilization spread throughout Anoikis - otherwise known as "W-space"- the Drifters represent a tremendous challenge and perhaps a dire threat to the empires and capsuleers alike. Seemingly the inheritors of a legacy left behind by some of the most ancient Jove, the Drifters are unafraid to wield tremendous power in response to any who get in their way. In this regard, the Drifters are a very different conundrum than the relatively benign presence that was the Jove Empire." Also their member corp - Vigilant Tyrannos (which seems to be their militant wing ) : "CONCORD intelligence reports indicate that Drifter military formations are operating under a single command structure represented by an enclave level organization with the designation "Vigilant Tyrannos". Despite monitoring the movements of ships broadcasting the identifier of this organization, no further information as to the motivation or goals of this force has been gleaned." So they are the the remnants of the Sleepers?...hmm... Also their home station is in M-MD3B , deep within the Great Wildlands, Thukker Tribe territory... A faction desc. an IDENT tag and a HQ. This is going to be interesting. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 811	Posted - 2015.02.09 17:58:39 - [708] - Quote Wonder if there's anything particularly interesting in that system right now.... Vote Sabriz!
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 234	Posted - 2015.02.09 18:18:13 - [709] - Quote So if how I'm reading that is right.. these aren't actually sleepers, but rather another Jove Faction that's re-emerged, perhaps to work with the sleepers.. Sounds fun.. Now that they have a station, give them agents, and an LP store, and Drifter BS + Weapon BPC's :D
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:14:06 - [710] - Quote Please no, we have enough rats to shoot at at the moment just for the sake of LP and Blueprints/Modules. I want to believe CCP will not go there with this one.

Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 6009	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:16:49 - [711] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: Please no, we have enough rats to shoot at at the moment just for the sake of LP and Blueprints/Modules. I want to believe CCP will not go there with this one. You just watch as the Drifters engage Sansha incursions and pop Motherships left and right. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6202	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:48:22 - [712] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Sansh Leko wrote: Please no, we have enough rats to shoot at at the moment just for the sake of LP and Blueprints/Modules. I want to believe CCP will not go there with this one. You just watch as the Drifters engage Sansha incursions and pop Motherships left and right. I think the point is more around "oh look, more grind min/maxer content". It's still a little disappointing that there are no live events to "herald" this new content which in the scope of things is actually quite epic. This is being introduced in a rather hum drum way. Imagine for example we moved the Superbowl to December 25th and on the 23rd an alien race comes to earth and it's not even covered much on the news. And then... the alien race's biggest import is simply more aliens and all we get is another "press number for language" recording on the phone when calling services and maybe a new restaurant style for the trendies to spend their trust fund money at. In other words, a buzz kill. On the other hand, the Sansha live events left too much expectation. All of that player involvement built around the live events fell over in a heap the day the incursions became "just more content to grind for ISK on". So may CCP is not playing it up because they know the RP/Lore crowd is going to discover that the whiskey was watered down again. (I don't think it's their fault: a video game has limitations on what it can deliver no matter what you do). If this is simply "more content", by bittervet gland tells me that yeah, more grind, more min-maxers complaining that they "did it all" 2 weeks later and are bored, more watching Drifter BSs in the hands of players as they..... do combat sites in highsec (exactly what you will see Guristas ships doing) because they are flying a gank magnet and outside of highsec, entire gate camps full of them for the insta blap (as usual). At least the storyline and lore is good. As for what goes on in the game all boiling down to "muh ISK/stats" and aspergian min-maxing. then meh. I'm hoping there is a new novel like a followup to Templar One more so than what this new content means to me. The book I'll enjoy more. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 48	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:12:36 - [713] - Quote For me, the min/maxing thing has NEVER been something I've taken much part in. I've always done what I wanted in EVE for the fun of it and nothing more. I will still go and see these battleships and I will still want to have a crack at them myself, for fun's sake. I'm hoping that the next few expansions in the coming months continue THIS as their path to new content and stories, though, as the EVE lore is amazing.
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1083	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:40:28 - [714] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: Please no, we have enough rats to shoot at at the moment just for the sake of LP and Blueprints/Modules. I want to believe CCP will not go there with this one. m8, Thukker LP store sucks ass. Worst in game. Teh only thing worth getting there are Mid-Grade Nomad implants, and you can get those from hisec LP stores anyway. Everyone is welcome to come visit all of the GWL stations. They are located in N-DQ2D, M-M, and E02, just a few jumps into the region. Rest of the region is a waste-land. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29750	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:05:33 - [715] - Quote It just occurred to me that the number of drifter spawns might coincide with the number of ships that shot at the first drifter. So basically, however many ships are shooting at drifters will be blap'd. I'm in class right now but I'm going to test this again tonight. I think the answer to this superweapon is drones, and letting one take the heat off the player's ship. I think this is a new nuance to the AI, due to the one-shot nature of the superweapon. Unless the AI is changed to account for the boom. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:42:37 - [716] - Quote Yea, you guys are right. I jumped directly on "new faction, 2 weeks of pew pew and stuff then everything back to normal". Like Allant Doran said, I also hope for more Lore/Storyline through next months from this. And Herzog Wolfhammer summed up perfectly what probably most of us dont want to happen. Anyway from the begining with new Star, now Unidentified Structures,Wormholes and Seekers/Drifters this cant end with a meh content There has to be more to this, something very good because EVE lore is epic. Someone asked if there is anything interesting in that system where they have the headquarters on SISI. I went there as soon as I saw it mentioned on forums, no Unidentified Structures/Wormholes or anything unusuall yet.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6205	Posted - 2015.02.10 00:02:14 - [717] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: It just occurred to me that the number of drifter spawns might coincide with the number of ships that shot at the first drifter. So basically, however many ships are shooting at drifters will be blap'd. I'm in class right now but I'm going to test this again tonight. I think the answer to this superweapon is drones, and letting one take the heat off the player's ship. I think this is a new nuance to the AI, due to the one-shot nature of the superweapon. Unless the AI is changed to account for the boom. If I recall right, from a player named Arcdragon from years ago (2009 - 2010) sleeper sites in WH space would spawn "per the threat" meaning if you land on a site with a dread you'll get way more than if you showed up in a cruiser or BC. Of course the class of WH also meant something in this equation. I don't know if that mechanic ever changed or if that was entirely true, nor the "math" of it at this point. But it would be good for the AI if reinforcements were based on threat level. It would certainly prevent farming them. I wonder how many the goons can spawn if they had a whole fleet pick a fight? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 49	Posted - 2015.02.10 00:09:12 - [718] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Rain6637 wrote: It just occurred to me that the number of drifter spawns might coincide with the number of ships that shot at the first drifter. So basically, however many ships are shooting at drifters will be blap'd. I'm in class right now but I'm going to test this again tonight. I think the answer to this superweapon is drones, and letting one take the heat off the player's ship. I think this is a new nuance to the AI, due to the one-shot nature of the superweapon. Unless the AI is changed to account for the boom. If I recall right, from a player named Arcdragon from years ago (2009 - 2010) sleeper sites in WH space would spawn "per the threat" meaning if you land on a site with a dread you'll get way more than if you showed up in a cruiser or BC. Of course the class of WH also meant something in this equation. I don't know if that mechanic ever changed or if that was entirely true, nor the "math" of it at this point. But it would be good for the AI if reinforcements were based on threat level. It would certainly prevent farming them. I wonder how many the goons can spawn if they had a whole fleet pick a fight? My experience with Wormholes is that you can escalate WH sites. They will have x - number sleepers, which you can defeat to win the site after a couple waves. However, bringing in Capitals, up to 4 caps in our case, generates additional large spawns. The site is only compelte after we have our fleet + 2 Carriers and 2 Dreads on field. The same might be the case for Drifters.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 368	Posted - 2015.02.10 01:07:30 - [719] - Quote Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. I have removed a couple off-topic posts. ISD Decoy Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29753	Posted - 2015.02.10 01:20:18 - [720] - Quote I'll confirm that's more or less how capital escalations work, but man is that old news. Anyway, I'm wondering if you could also keep the Drifter jammed until it dies, never allowing it to fire. Or, keep it damped down to arm's reach. The only problem with using EWAR is the fact that Drifters seem to break all locks at the end of its blue shield layer. Depending on its scan res, you might be able to land EWAR before it gets a lock on anyone. If it orbits at 17km, that's what, three, maybe four Recon damps. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|

Lachesiss nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness 183	Posted - 2015.02.10 07:09:33 - [721] - Quote Can anyone advise if hey have seen a drifter BS in Tierjev?. I sat there pounding all the sleepers but one didn't pop up . Guess they don't like Vindicators. On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Jove Eden Jovian Vengeance The Jovian Federation 27	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:09:40 - [722] - Quote Can anyone recommend a good video capture tool which maybe better than Frapps or is that the only one?. I thinking of using twitch to capture the start to finish of a fight on sisi. Couple of other things if anyone can help aswell. With regards to the Drifters and sleepers chasing people around will they also do this through acceleration gates?. I would like to know if these things did chase people around we could actually drag them into a Sansha spawn. With the drifter breaking locks was this only 1 ewar or more at the time of the lock break?.
Esnaelc Sin'led AdAstra. Beach Club Red Whines. 9	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:34:54 - [723] - Quote Jove Eden wrote: Can anyone recommend a good video capture tool which maybe better than Frapps or is that the only one?. I thinking of using twitch to capture the start to finish of a fight on sisi. Couple of other things if anyone can help aswell. With regards to the Drifters and sleepers chasing people around will they also do this through acceleration gates?. I would like to know if these things did chase people around we could actually drag them into a Sansha spawn. With the drifter breaking locks was this only 1 ewar or more at the time of the lock break?. If you got nVidia gfx card, use ShadowPlay. Really good capturing with mp4 encoding. I think ATI got the same kind of capturing software, but may be still in 'beta' mode, not sure.
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 504	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:21:44 - [724] - Quote I hope they start taking SOV and then there's a general call to arms in order to stop the spreading influence of the Drifters :D That would shake Null and SOV warfare a bit :D " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 504	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:43:03 - [725] - Quote Drifter description : "By all appearances and indications the Drifters are members of the Jove race, albeit far removed and with a strangely altered physiology. The high degree of cybernetic modification that the Drifters exhibit seems to go hand in hand with an implacable single-mindedness and utter ruthlessness while pursuing their mysterious goals. Whatever their ends may be, the technology at their command unquestionably rivals and perhaps even surpasses that which other Jove have been seen to use." We' re f&&ed.... " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled*
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 39	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:13:54 - [726] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Drifter description : "By all appearances and indications the Drifters are members of the Jove race, albeit far removed and with a strangely altered physiology. The high degree of cybernetic modification that the Drifters exhibit seems to go hand in hand with an implacable single-mindedness and utter ruthlessness while pursuing their mysterious goals. Whatever their ends may be, the technology at their command unquestionably rivals and perhaps even surpasses that which other Jove have been seen to use." We' re f*&&ed.... Perhaps they are controlled by the other?
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 493	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:21:35 - [727] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Drifter description. What Drifters actually are "For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 504	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:36:00 - [728] - Quote Arline Kley wrote: Nami Kumamato wrote: Drifter description. What Drifters actually are Please...the Drifters are to us what Species 8472 were to the Borg :) " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 493	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:38:55 - [729] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Please...the Drifters are to us what Species 8472 were to the Borg :) But unlike Janeway, we won't need to make an Unholy Alliance with Sansha to see them off.. "For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1908	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:45:57 - [730] - Quote I wouldn't count on that.

Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 504	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:51:54 - [731] - Quote Dang it! All this speculating about is annoying me! Fanfest Y U NO come sooner ?! " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 117	Posted - 2015.02.10 11:40:59 - [732] - Quote I woke up in a cold sweat, i had a bad dream. All the sleepers and the new drifter battleships are drones. The new (still cloaked) stations are not stations, they are a Jove faction (drone boat) frigates Just wait for a cruiser to turn up Je suis charlie
Lachesiss nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness 184	Posted - 2015.02.10 14:22:36 - [733] - Quote In relation to a comment earlier in the post about Carolines star looking like an eye when I was in Tierjev yesterday I looked at the star and I must be going mad but if you look at it the cloud base around the nebula is a head and a body with boobs. Please note no drink or drugs were involved. i must admit after playing EvE since beta (on other chars) I am applauding the story line behind this. Theirs so much speculation about the destruction of Jove space. The so called listening stations popping up all over new Eden. The Drifter BS. The Dev's who actually sat down and started all this with the design of the listening outpost's, the death of the star and everything that is coming deserve a goddam medal of some sort. And to keep it all quiet is just insane. On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17105	Posted - 2015.02.10 16:55:28 - [734] - Quote https://twitter.com/zaul_nex/status/565187941102661632 The drifters' true appearance A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2015.02.10 17:17:37 - [735] - Quote Drifters Quote: Following the appearance of the Circadian Seekers in New Eden, a new ominous threat now glides through the darkness. Whatever their intentions and motives are, Capsuleers will no doubt play an integral part of their plan. Extreme caution is advised if contact is made.
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2015.02.10 17:18:49 - [736] - Quote http://community.eveonline.com/releases/tiamat For those that didn't check the overview of upcoming features. Includes Drifters.. But no mention of them in the video :(
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 219	Posted - 2015.02.10 18:25:38 - [737] - Quote Drifters don't looks like humans at all. More like cyborgs. Star Trek's borgs. Pale skin, some sort of implant or metallic cranium part on side of the head. Dark side of Jovians. Like volkans and romulans. If they are jovians at all. What does it mean the word: drifter? I only found a medium fishing vessel that using drifting fishnets. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 6019	Posted - 2015.02.10 18:35:15 - [738] - Quote Speculation: Drifters are Sleepers that too Jove DNA to recreate clone bodies, which they then cybernetically adapted to allow control by a personality shard move out of their collective, effectively creating a mobile chassis for individual Sleepers. They used Jove DNA because it has been most adapted to use with cybernetic implants. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17106	Posted - 2015.02.10 20:16:10 - [739] - Quote Sleepers are Jovians- I'm almost certain that these Drifters are awakened Sleeper infomorphs with the Construct implants still attached to them (see the implants?). They look identical to the Jovians we see in EVE: Source and at the end of Fanfest 2012, save for the implants. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 244	Posted - 2015.02.10 20:18:40 - [740] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Drifters don't looks like humans at all. More like cyborgs. Star Trek's borgs. Pale skin, some sort of implant or metallic cranium part on side of the head. Dark side of Jovians. Like volkans and romulans. If they are jovians at all. What does it mean the word: drifter? I only found a medium fishing vessel that using drifting fishnets. Jovian's are actually described as looking a lot like this.. With lots of implants.. In game most Jove looked worse lol.. only without the implants.. And these are Jove, that's been confirmed. If anything, vs what the Jove look like now, these seem a few generations removed.. not as bad off.. As for what Drifter means.. it can also mean someone without a home.. Out trying to find themselves by just going from place to place.

VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 39	Posted - 2015.02.10 20:29:04 - [741] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Sleepers are Jovians- I'm almost certain that these Drifters are awakened Sleeper infomorphs with the Construct implants still attached to them (see the implants?). They look identical to the Jovians we see in EVE: Source and at the end of Fanfest 2012, save for the implants. do you have a photo?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17106	Posted - 2015.02.10 20:37:18 - [742] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Sleepers are Jovians- I'm almost certain that these Drifters are awakened Sleeper infomorphs with the Construct implants still attached to them (see the implants?). They look identical to the Jovians we see in EVE: Source and at the end of Fanfest 2012, save for the implants. do you have a photo? http://i.imgur.com/D8FwXLo.png?1 Jovians, post-incarna. They're described like this in Theodicy and Templar One, and this image appears in EVE Source They look near-identical to the drifters and even have the same outfit- the only difference is the cybernetic implants, which leads me to believe that they are indeed awakened Architect infomorphs A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 39	Posted - 2015.02.10 21:54:25 - [743] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: VTyx Soul wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Sleepers are Jovians- I'm almost certain that these Drifters are awakened Sleeper infomorphs with the Construct implants still attached to them (see the implants?). They look identical to the Jovians we see in EVE: Source and at the end of Fanfest 2012, save for the implants. do you have a photo? http://i.imgur.com/D8FwXLo.png?1 Jovians, post-incarna. They're described like this in Theodicy and Templar One, and this image appears in EVE Source They look near-identical to the drifters and even have the same outfit- the only difference is the cybernetic implants, which leads me to believe that they are indeed awakened Architect infomorphs I agree, once I saw them bringing in a sleeper vessel from a small wormhole which two formed I reached the same conclusion. They were the same race after all and had the same augmentations and modifications to allow an additional implant.
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 53	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:19:00 - [744] - Quote It's killing me that we still have a week to go until this release, but what kills me even more is that Scylla isn't until March and I'm even MORE excited for what that's bringing xD
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1083	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:21:22 - [745] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Rain6637 wrote: It just occurred to me that the number of drifter spawns might coincide with the number of ships that shot at the first drifter. So basically, however many ships are shooting at drifters will be blap'd. I'm in class right now but I'm going to test this again tonight. I think the answer to this superweapon is drones, and letting one take the heat off the player's ship. I think this is a new nuance to the AI, due to the one-shot nature of the superweapon. Unless the AI is changed to account for the boom. If I recall right, from a player named Arcdragon from years ago (2009 - 2010) sleeper sites in WH space would spawn "per the threat" meaning if you land on a site with a dread you'll get way more than if you showed up in a cruiser or BC. Of course the class of WH also meant something in this equation. I don't know if that mechanic ever changed or if that was entirely true, nor the "math" of it at this point. But it would be good for the AI if reinforcements were based on threat level. It would certainly prevent farming them. I wonder how many the goons can spawn if they had a whole fleet pick a fight? You're talking about capital escalations. Warp a cap into a w-space site and, yes, there is a chance of the sleepers escalating the site. W-space residents can give you more accurate data than I can. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1343	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:16:28 - [746] - Quote All this reminds me of what Sansha Kuvakei said when he first reappeared in the cluster, namely that 'We are the heirs to a mistake' and that he wanted to correct it. Perhaps he means that pour capsule tech is the 'mistake' ? After all, the quote in EvE Now does say 'all the mistake you are making, we already made' Don't forget, the first Sansha's Nation is the only nation that faced the full wrath of the 5 empires, under the push of the Jove. I suspect it wasn't only because of the True Slaves, because of two reasons: -Amarr got slaves & Jove don't care about it. Also Amarr attacked Jove & while they did face the results (initial fleet wiped & minmatar rebellion instigated by Jove/Feds) Jove were content with leaving the Amarr alone after that, showing that the Jove supporting the Minmatar rebellion wasn't out of a goal to remove slavery, but more of an opportunity, to keep amarr busy so they no longer have the willpower to attack the Jove again. -Caldari (Ishukone among them! A favorite of the Jove!) built mind control chips and the Jove never cared one iota about it. From this I suspect that Sansha's Nation discovered something regarding capsuleer tech about a hundred years ago & the Jove wanted it silenced or destroyed. After all, Nation was doing research into capsuleer tech & made some breakthroughs Considering Sansha is also present in at least two shattered wormholes I believe that Sansha's Nation will have something to add to all of this before it's all over. The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success! Gallente President Jacus Roden is elected for a second term
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29790	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:57:36 - [747] - Quote I can't wait to defeat the Drifter superweapons by loading ECM onto noobships as sacrificial lambs. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub \| Twitter \|-ámk.III \| Imgur \| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined \|
Aralieus The Inf1dels 248	Posted - 2015.02.11 02:03:05 - [748] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: All this reminds me of what Sansha Kuvakei said when he first reappeared in the cluster, namely that 'We are the heirs to a mistake' and that he wanted to correct it. Perhaps he means that pour capsule tech is the 'mistake' ? After all, the quote in EvE Now does say 'all the mistake you are making, we already made' Don't forget, the first Sansha's Nation is the only nation that faced the full wrath of the 5 empires, under the push of the Jove. I suspect it wasn't only because of the True Slaves, because of two reasons: -Amarr got slaves & Jove don't care about it. Also Amarr attacked Jove & while they did face the results (initial fleet wiped & minmatar rebellion instigated by Jove/Feds) Jove were content with leaving the Amarr alone after that, showing that the Jove supporting the Minmatar rebellion wasn't out of a goal to remove slavery, but more of an opportunity, to keep amarr busy so they no longer have the willpower to attack the Jove again. -Caldari (Ishukone among them! A favorite of the Jove!) built mind control chips and the Jove never cared one iota about it. From this I suspect that Sansha's Nation discovered something regarding capsuleer tech about a hundred years ago & the Jove wanted it silenced or destroyed. After all, Nation was doing research into capsuleer tech & made some breakthroughs Considering Sansha is also present in at least two shattered wormholes I believe that Sansha's Nation will have something to add to all of this before it's all over. ~mind completely blown~ Oderint Dum Metuant
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6211	Posted - 2015.02.11 03:45:49 - [749] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: All this reminds me of what Sansha Kuvakei said when he first reappeared in the cluster, namely that 'We are the heirs to a mistake' and that he wanted to correct it. Perhaps he means that pour capsule tech is the 'mistake' ? After all, the quote in EvE Now does say 'all the mistake you are making, we already made' Don't forget, the first Sansha's Nation is the only nation that faced the full wrath of the 5 empires, under the push of the Jove. I suspect it wasn't only because of the True Slaves, because of two reasons: -Amarr got slaves & Jove don't care about it. Also Amarr attacked Jove & while they did face the results (initial fleet wiped & minmatar rebellion instigated by Jove/Feds) Jove were content with leaving the Amarr alone after that, showing that the Jove supporting the Minmatar rebellion wasn't out of a goal to remove slavery, but more of an opportunity, to keep amarr busy so they no longer have the willpower to attack the Jove again. -Caldari (Ishukone among them! A favorite of the Jove!) built mind control chips and the Jove never cared one iota about it. From this I suspect that Sansha's Nation discovered something regarding capsuleer tech about a hundred years ago & the Jove wanted it silenced or destroyed. After all, Nation was doing research into capsuleer tech & made some breakthroughs Considering Sansha is also present in at least two shattered wormholes I believe that Sansha's Nation will have something to add to all of this before it's all over. Hmmmm. More epic. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17110	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:10:59 - [750] - Quote Okay guys, looking at EVE Source, I now retract my idea that these "Vigilant Tyrannos" are Sleeper. Miko Bour, the founder of the second empire, was the "First Tyrant of the Second Empire", and was a member of a "now-extinct" political faction (maybe not so extinct). Him and those after him were referred to as "Tyrants". Sounds quite a lot like Tyrannos, no? A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ

Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 222	Posted - 2015.02.11 07:07:22 - [751] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: I believe that Sansha's Nation will have something to add to all of this before it's all over. I think they just want a piece of jovians high tech. I wouldn't believe a puppet master. "...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..." The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6211	Posted - 2015.02.11 07:14:34 - [752] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: I believe that Sansha's Nation will have something to add to all of this before it's all over. I think they just want a piece of jovians high tech. I wouldn't believe a puppet master. Sansha Kuvakei once posted in the IGS forum. Maybe the role players might ask him. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Morgana Tsukiyo Samsara Dynamics 5	Posted - 2015.02.11 10:09:22 - [753] - Quote Thinking of balance and Yin Yang, the struggle between Individuality and Collectivity is one of the two themes we face with some frequency, and in different shades. Capsuleers are the paramount of individuality, we come and go as we please, we wreck havoc to millions and the universe is shaped for better or worst depending simply on our mood. On the other side, the Jove have manipulated their each uniqueness so much that they became detached from any other thing and wither alone even in groups. Sleepers are a harmonic collective that live in a utopian world where there is no need for an individualistic manifestation and everyone is cool with their connectivity detached from the "real" world. The Sansha are a collective created out of force and control, you have an individual pulling the strings and sharing the mind of millions and calling it enlightenment. What if some of the Jove and some of the Sleepers decided to embrace a little bit of each others characteristics, out of necessity and adaptability to survive, and trough Sansha tech (probably stolen, wormholes with their presence show they got slaughtered by something or someone) they now we have highly augmented individual manifestations of a collective purpose? After all, the Jove were dying of depression and the Sleepers well.... we ARE committing genocide against them and their guards. The capsuleer tech is based on the scanning of our brains at the moment of death, and uploading it to a new clone. There are several ways of bad thing happening in this process, such as what happened to Fatal of the Guristas or failing to activate a clone altogether. It-¦s like a download from a single server to another server. What if the Drifters are using a highly sophisticated P2P process where the physical bodies are not the servers, but simply a terminal where the manifestation of the conscience that is safely guarded on the collective and ready to present itself in any other body the moment they wish so? This seems highly adaptable, and makes the best of both worlds (individual and collective) available to them. And yet, there-¦s still the question of what do they want to do with it.....
Komodo Askold No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad 290	Posted - 2015.02.11 12:22:19 - [754] - Quote Morgana Tsukiyo wrote: What if the Drifters are using a highly sophisticated P2P process where the physical bodies are not the servers, but simply a terminal where the manifestation of the conscience that is safely guarded on the collective and ready to present itself in any other body the moment they wish so? This seems highly adaptable, and makes the best of both worlds (individual and collective) available to them. And yet, there-¦s still the question of what do they want to do with it..... That reminds me a lot of DUST clone mercenaries. Their "mind" is stored in a database and then transfered on a clone. If the clone dies, the brain state is transfered to the database, with the new experiences acting like an "file update". In fact, if they are left behind on a planet too far away of the database (outside its transmission range), they're pretty much going to lose years of their life, because their clones can't live more than 5 years (if I recall correctly), and when they die, the new experiences are not going to be added to the database. In fact, sometimes weirder things can happen like having 2 clones of the same person with the same mind inside them, yet be separate persons. Can't help but wonder how does that "lifestyle" feel like. And of course, if said technology was somehow taken from the Jove, Sleepers or Drifters... And we're yet to see what is going on with the Valkyries.
Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 17	Posted - 2015.02.11 14:50:32 - [755] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Okay guys, looking at EVE Source, I now retract my idea that these "Vigilant Tyrannos" are Sleeper. Miko Bour, the founder of the second empire, was the "First Tyrant of the Second Empire", and was a member of a "now-extinct" political faction (maybe not so extinct). Him and those after him were referred to as "Tyrants". Sounds quite a lot like Tyrannos, no? Unless of course, he's working with the sleepers, as they are clearly a part of this and have been confirmed to be a part of this by the devs. Team-up?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17115	Posted - 2015.02.11 15:23:21 - [756] - Quote Captain Davison wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Okay guys, looking at EVE Source, I now retract my idea that these "Vigilant Tyrannos" are Sleeper. Miko Bour, the founder of the second empire, was the "First Tyrant of the Second Empire", and was a member of a "now-extinct" political faction (maybe not so extinct). Him and those after him were referred to as "Tyrants". Sounds quite a lot like Tyrannos, no? Unless of course, he's working with the sleepers, as they are clearly a part of this and have been confirmed to be a part of this by the devs. Team-up? Well I'm pretty certain Bour would be dead by now- but this group would have been his. The Tyrants United the Jovians once before- who's to say they wouldn't again? Of course, this is all speculation- but I'm absolutely certain that the Tyrants have something to do here. And sleepers are definitely involved in a huge way- they started this whole thing- and they're still Jovian too :) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Jade Blackwind Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 277	Posted - 2015.02.11 15:46:13 - [757] - Quote Earlier last year a NPC (CCP actor) by the name of Hilen Tukoss, former founder of the Arek'jaalan project and Site One in Eram, suddenly reappeared and began posting on IGS asking the players to donate Jovian body parts for his new project. He did it in a rather weird way though and his posts were mixed with hexadecimal garbage, so most RPers decided that Tukoss fell victim to some sort of AI and that thing is now controlling him and tries to collect Jovian DNA. Utlimately, the toaster-Tukoss got his hands on a set of Jovian remains and went silent again. Now, the Drifters appear. Let's not forget that the "true" Jovians of the Directorate have their aggression curbed at the genetic level, pilots of the Jovian Navy (if such a thing even exists) being the only exceptions. Thus, the Drifters are not members of the Jovian civilization proper. tl:dr Drifters are cloned from the Jovian DNA collected from players via event, but they are not Jovians. They are tools controlled by either the Sleepers or the Other, personally I think it's the Other. Fun times ahead.
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1084	Posted - 2015.02.11 21:33:39 - [758] - Quote I wonder if the Drifters are cloned bodies made for the purpose of replacing the actual sleepers lost bodies? You know, those bodies from which we how shall I say, harvested, some interesting tech? (re:Templar One) Or perhaps they are simply "eyes" for The Other? Can he move his consciousness around from one body to another? Could there be more than one "Other"? http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 246	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:07:13 - [759] - Quote Jade Blackwind wrote: Drifters are cloned from the Jovian DNA collected from players via event, but they are not Jovians. They are tools controlled by either the Sleepers or the Other, personally I think it's the Other. Fun times ahead. Why would The Other need us to collect samples of Jove DNA? It has actual Jove in sleeping capsules.. That would be my biggest hole in the theory.. Now if it was some other groups.. Rogue Drones? Sansha? They would likely need the samples. Not that I think that's what happened. I don't the drifters are cloned. I think they are awakened. Perhaps originally Sleepers, but more likely I feel from before that time. Possibly from a previous Jove Empire, that have either decided to return, or were poked by something and are waking up and saying WTF. The Jove stations that are decloaking might be from their time, or more modern, hence their interest in it (and sleeper interest too). Also might explain how they ignore us (not considered a threat) but ill tempered if engaged. Would be nice for them to decide to carve out their own area of Null..and I don't mean just normal NPC Null, but one they will actively defend..
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2015.02.11 22:24:00 - [760] - Quote New update on Drifter Battleship and Apollo Tyrannos Link from Reddit post : Imgur

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17115	Posted - 2015.02.11 23:46:26 - [761] - Quote Sniper Smith wrote: Jade Blackwind wrote: Drifters are cloned from the Jovian DNA collected from players via event, but they are not Jovians. They are tools controlled by either the Sleepers or the Other, personally I think it's the Other. Fun times ahead. Why would The Other need us to collect samples of Jove DNA? It has actual Jove in sleeping capsules.. That would be my biggest hole in the theory.. Now if it was some other groups.. Rogue Drones? Sansha? They would likely need the samples. Not that I think that's what happened. I don't the drifters are cloned. I think they are awakened. Perhaps originally Sleepers, but more likely I feel from before that time. Possibly from a previous Jove Empire, that have either decided to return, or were poked by something and are waking up and saying WTF. The Jove stations that are decloaking might be from their time, or more modern, hence their interest in it (and sleeper interest too). Also might explain how they ignore us (not considered a threat) but ill tempered if engaged. Would be nice for them to decide to carve out their own area of Null..and I don't mean just normal NPC Null, but one they will actively defend.. I'm positive it isn't the other collecting the parts- and if you're saying a previous empire, that fits perfectly with the idea of the Tyrants (the leaders of the second empire) making their return- "Viligant Tyrannos" can mean "awakened tyrants". A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6216	Posted - 2015.02.12 00:14:06 - [762] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: New update on Drifter Battleship and Apollo Tyrannos Link from Reddit post : Imgur OK they are the baddies. We're doomed. Doomed I tell you. (British version: It would appear that we are doomed ) Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.02.12 00:31:54 - [763] - Quote Now that you mentioned, I am stealing. Shhh And they have a plan.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6217	Posted - 2015.02.12 00:42:42 - [764] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: Now that you mentioned, I am stealing. Shhh And they have a plan. When this becomes solid content and players go swooping in on those ships with their L4 mission boats (like on the first day of Incursion content where THOUSANDS of player ships were destroyed) that clip of Hudson with the piece of wreckage and that dialog needs to be streamed right through the Eve client at the moment of destruction. For the effect. I'm laughing thinking about this. It's exactly what they'll be saying. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 55	Posted - 2015.02.12 01:04:36 - [765] - Quote I for one welcome our new Sleeper Overlords. As in, no, seriously, CCP can I go work for these guys? I'm happy to assume they have the right idea.
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.02.12 01:22:59 - [766] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: When this becomes solid content and players go swooping in on those ships with their L4 mission boats (like on the first day of Incursion content where THOUSANDS of player ships were destroyed) that clip of Hudson with the piece of wreckage and that dialog needs to be streamed right through the Eve client at the moment of destruction. For the effect. I'm laughing thinking about this. It's exactly what they'll be saying. Say no more, considering how the procedure is in EVE, shoot first then ask questions I am laughing just thinking about it. Fun times ahead.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17118	Posted - 2015.02.12 01:50:22 - [767] - Quote I can see the shiny killmails now- one-shot by an NPC, their worst nightmare I;m becoming more and more convicnced that the Drifters/Tyrannos are the resurgence of the Second Empire's leading party, the Tyrants. They weren't bad- in fact, they united the Jovian factions as one. I wonder if that will hold any significance :) Also, their HQ as listed so far is in the Great Wildlands, directly adjacent to the location of the original two Jovian Empires. A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
Sarmatiko 1666	Posted - 2015.02.12 13:28:33 - [768] - Quote https://image.testeveonline.com/Character/3019582_1024.jpg https://image.testeveonline.com/Character/3019583_1024.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Hi7dToa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5g4q6LV.jpg
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 40	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:01:39 - [769] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: I can see the shiny killmails now- one-shot by an NPC, their worst nightmare I;m becoming more and more convicnced that the Drifters/Tyrannos are the resurgence of the Second Empire's leading party, the Tyrants. They weren't bad- in fact, they united the Jovian factions as one. I wonder if that will hold any significance :) Also, their HQ as listed so far is in the Great Wildlands, directly adjacent to the location of the original two Jovian Empires. Can you quote that source regarding the second empire please :)
Esnaelc Sin'led AdAstra. Beach Club Red Whines. 10	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:05:04 - [770] - Quote So that's a fifth 'faction' they gonna implement in the game to make new capsuleer rules available to players ?! (like faster SP learning / SP loss on pod-kill / permanent suspect timer / and so on)

VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 41	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:07:18 - [771] - Quote Esnaelc Sin'led wrote: So that's a fifth 'faction' they gonna implement in the game to make new capsuleer rules available to players ?! (like faster SP learning / SP loss on pod-kill / permanent suspect timer / and so on) Unlikely most likely the perma death will come with a form of trial account with caps or a non capsule based pilot. Sleepers/Jovians all have the same upload tech.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17118	Posted - 2015.02.12 14:09:44 - [772] - Quote VTyx Soul wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: I can see the shiny killmails now- one-shot by an NPC, their worst nightmare I;m becoming more and more convicnced that the Drifters/Tyrannos are the resurgence of the Second Empire's leading party, the Tyrants. They weren't bad- in fact, they united the Jovian factions as one. I wonder if that will hold any significance :) Also, their HQ as listed so far is in the Great Wildlands, directly adjacent to the location of the original two Jovian Empires. Can you quote that source regarding the second empire please :) EVE Source, pg.134 :) A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
dhunpael 47	Posted - 2015.02.12 17:58:13 - [773] - Quote Is this here the whole time, or is it new? I've never seen this before new cloud
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 41	Posted - 2015.02.12 19:45:58 - [774] - Quote dhunpael wrote: Is this here the whole time, or is it new? I've never seen this before new cloud a nebula
Narcotic Gryffin Yumping Amok 46	Posted - 2015.02.12 21:06:44 - [775] - Quote I havent read ever post here but has anyone else noticed a slight yet significant difference in the sleepers? In particular circadian vs wh sleepers and the shields? http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 41	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:10:18 - [776] - Quote Narcotic Gryffin wrote: I havent read ever post here but has anyone else noticed a slight yet significant difference in the sleepers? In particular circadian vs wh sleepers and the shields? it has been noticed yes
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 58	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:13:21 - [777] - Quote Can't remember if I ever got an answer for this; Why do the Drifters have full-body models for the pilots? Is that a normal NPC thing to do? Do Sansha, Angel etc all have pilot models somewhere in the files too?
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1353	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:17:57 - [778] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Can't remember if I ever got an answer for this; Why do the Drifters have full-body models for the pilots? Is that a normal NPC thing to do? Do Sansha, Angel etc all have pilot models somewhere in the files too? Not really commonplace, then again, most NPC's that got a custom made pic were from before the full body implementation (Jacus Roden, Sansha Kuvakei etc) In this particular case, I suspect the full body modification is to show how different the Jove are to us, almost an entirely alien race, despite our common ancestry as humans. And through it, Jove have motivations that are alien to us, something I hint at in my Jove article: 'Shrouded in mystery, the Jovian race' Note this is about the Jove of the Jovian Directorate, not these returning Jove, whom I suspect are something else entirely! The Republic strikes back! The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success!
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 59	Posted - 2015.02.13 00:10:36 - [779] - Quote Thanks for the link, I gave it a read and really liked it :) Additionally, you mention a rumour that the Jovians were building a superweapon of their own... could that be what has caused the Caroline's Star incident? A Jovian Superweapon used to detonate Sansha? :P
Unezka Turigahl Det Som Engang Var 611	Posted - 2015.02.13 02:53:58 - [780] - Quote So guys, guess what? I am one of them. I am a Drifter. [PROOF] Send me your ISK if you want to live.

Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 60	Posted - 2015.02.13 03:07:32 - [781] - Quote Unezka Turigahl wrote: So guys, guess what? I am one of them. I am a Drifter. [PROOF] Send me your ISK if you want to live. Seems legit.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1356	Posted - 2015.02.13 15:41:17 - [782] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Thanks for the link, I gave it a read and really liked it :) Additionally, you mention a rumour that the Jovians were building a superweapon of their own... could that be what has caused the Caroline's Star incident? A Jovian Superweapon used to detonate Sansha? :P Wel the whole Caroline Star is still an enigma wrapped in mystery. Outside 'hey it happened & This star shouldn't be able to go supernova!' we know little. Jove are suspect because of this old chronicle 'The Armageddon Project' indicating the Jove might have access to a weapon that can shatter a planet, or more... Also 'Drifter' is also a background selection option for Minmatar players that went for the Vherokior Bloodline: Drifters Drawing inspiration from their nomadic ancestry, wanderlust runs strong with many Vherokiors. While many curb their thirst for adventure, there are those who simply cannot settle down in one place for long. Never at rest, they will always be lured by the horizon, as there are places to see and riches to be discovered Above is the description given to the Vherokior Drifters, could help in pinpointing what CCP means with these new 'Jovian Drifters' The Republic strikes back! The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success!
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:00:11 - [783] - Quote The Scope: Shattered Worlds
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 173	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:17:49 - [784] - Quote i do often trips from Outer region null to highsec with interceptor and usually do 40-50 jumps every time. Ive tried different routes up and Down and counted every system With uindentified structurs... and there is about 1 for evey 4 system. And it also seems when i check map and info, the structurs are placed in system With very little Activity, which strengthens the theory about Jove gonnaa clean up or out sov. in systems that aint in use. Further... ive not yet found such structurs in systems in null that have an Activ population. So in my opinion, i still belive its CCP's plan to clean up the unused systems in null, which can give other the chance to claim sov.
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 688	Posted - 2015.02.13 19:22:53 - [785] - Quote It's a secrete weapon based on isogen-5. The amarr have been trying to build a weapon based of the Terran weapon the emperess has. Or Bob is paving the way for his return! CSM 10: Mike Azariah, Sugar Kyle, Chance Ravinne, Jenshae chrioptera Do No Vote For: Tora Bushido, Bobmon
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 173	Posted - 2015.02.13 19:36:08 - [786] - Quote Dradis Aulmais wrote: It's a secrete weapon based on isogen-5. The amarr have been trying to build a weapon based of the Terran weapon the emperess has. Or Bob is paving the way for his return! I dont think Bob Dole will run for Office again....
PhantomMajor High Flyers The Kadeshi 20	Posted - 2015.02.13 22:42:16 - [787] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: I'm also very interested in what the SoE and The Sanctuary have to do with all of this. There is way more to them than what meets the eye. The recent "Scope" seems to have proven you right
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 17120	Posted - 2015.02.13 23:12:09 - [788] - Quote Sansh Leko wrote: The Scope: Shattered Worlds Ooh, my butt is on point there A City made of Wood is built in the forest A City made of Stone is built in the mountains But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven. Jovian Proverb GÖâ
PhantomMajor High Flyers The Kadeshi 20	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:28:43 - [789] - Quote Can someone give me the link to the site that lists all the known system appearances please
Rhys Mabigonon Caldari Provisions Caldari State 25	Posted - 2015.02.14 06:22:02 - [790] - Quote PhantomMajor wrote: Can someone give me the link to the site that lists all the known system appearances please Here you go.

Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6238	Posted - 2015.02.14 07:20:13 - [791] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Sansh Leko wrote: The Scope: Shattered Worlds Ooh, my butt looks quite nice The scientists all looked like they were dressed like the kind of people who go to those clubs in Europe that I was never allowed into. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 961	Posted - 2015.02.14 20:43:04 - [792] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Sansh Leko wrote: The Scope: Shattered Worlds Ooh, my butt looks quite nice The scientists all looked like they were dressed like the kind of people who go to those clubs in Europe that I was never allowed into. I used to go to those clubs and they were as much fun as you think :D As for SoE I never trusted them after running one of their missions. I'm hoping I can turn in the sleeper stuff I've gotten from the caches and work with the drifters against the Amarr (and Other) and the corps. I'll protect the people of the Empires but the corps and the Empires themselves? I'm not so sure anymore...
Atreides 47 Atreides of Arrakis 23	Posted - 2015.02.15 08:46:44 - [793] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: https://image.testeveonline.com/Character/3019583_1024.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Hi7dToa.jpg I think that Drifter female looks like this actress - http://i.imgur.com/HJSYMvD.jpg , without hair. Good design CCP, again. CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Hah, give me working [img] tag too. Long Live the Fighters ! CCP and nerfs - http://i.imgur.com/MejTGfL.jpg
TheSmokingHertog TALIBAN EXPRESS 287	Posted - 2015.02.17 06:14:02 - [794] - Quote Atreides 47 wrote: Sarmatiko wrote: https://image.testeveonline.com/Character/3019583_1024.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Hi7dToa.jpg I think that Drifter female looks like this actress - http://i.imgur.com/HJSYMvD.jpg , without hair. Good design CCP, again. CCP Falcon wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: I'm... confused. What's going on? [img]http://i.imgur.com/A7TUlwk.png[/img] Hah, give me working [img] tag too. Try forumgold > http://puu.sh/g0yjU/5ab0312e7d.jpg
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29929	Posted - 2015.02.17 06:23:40 - [795] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3040743#post3040743 Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 117	Posted - 2015.02.17 13:14:33 - [796] - Quote As expected, with todays update, the cloaked 'unidentified stuctures' have become uncloaked. Hopefully they are a new station type, not sleeper carriers Je suis charlie
Lachesiss nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness 235	Posted - 2015.02.17 13:40:31 - [797] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: As expected, with todays update, the cloaked 'unidentified stuctures' have become uncloaked. Hopefully they are a new station type, not sleeper carriers By the size of them I dont think so. And do they actually need it. A drifter BS can alpha a ship easily. By the size of these things there more like planet killers or one big bomb to detonate a system or 2. On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Dienowthxbay 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.17 15:45:27 - [798] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: By the size of these things there more like planet killers or one big bomb to detonate a system or 2. I ll take 2 or even 3 - how much ?
Blobskillz McBlub Manson Family Advent of Fate 22	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:48:20 - [799] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: Prt Scr wrote: As expected, with todays update, the cloaked 'unidentified stuctures' have become uncloaked. Hopefully they are a new station type, not sleeper carriers By the size of them I dont think so. And do they actually need it. A drifter BS can alpha a ship easily. By the size of these things there more like planet killers or one big bomb to detonate a system or 2. that would kinda suck because we live in one of the systems with such a structure
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6252	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:51:20 - [800] - Quote Alright let's get this out of our system: "Look at the size of that thing!" Shut up Red 4. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 911	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:56:50 - [801] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Alright let's get this out of our system: "Look at the size of that thing!" Shut up Red 4. There's a trench running along one side of of the structure. I may or may not have immediately tried to do a Death Star run in a rifter first thing when I logged in today.... Vote Sabriz!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29939	Posted - 2015.02.17 17:01:46 - [802] - Quote The Revenant description is bothering me. What if Sansha Kuvakei has been trying to fight The Other or otherwise help capsuleerkind... and we've been farming his babies for ISK and LP. Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
Sarmatiko 1673	Posted - 2015.02.17 17:04:42 - [803] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: Hopefully they are a new station type, not sleeper carriers Maybe those are Jove cloning facilities or body storages. I wonder why currently existing Drifter characters (Apollo, Strategos, Artemis and Hikanta) all have same appearance? Was it simply CCP laziness\oversight or this was intentional to make them all look like clones?
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29939	Posted - 2015.02.17 17:05:45 - [804] - Quote Dradis Aulmais wrote: It's a secrete weapon based on isogen-5. The amarr have been trying to build a weapon based of the Terran weapon the emperess has. Or Bob is paving the way for his return! that damn hyphen! if only. so close. Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
PhantomMajor High Flyers The Kadeshi 20	Posted - 2015.02.17 21:48:07 - [805] - Quote Does anyone know if drag bubbles, dictor or HIC bubbles have any effect on our mysterious visitors?
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29942	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:11:15 - [806] - Quote I didn't think to test that. oops Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
PhantomMajor High Flyers The Kadeshi 20	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:39:43 - [807] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I didn't think to test that. oops I eagerly await your report :-)
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6256	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:51:22 - [808] - Quote PhantomMajor wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I didn't think to test that. oops I eagerly await your report :-) I'll put my money on them being interdiction nullified like T3. Would not be surprised if their warp is even immune to a scripted dictor. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1388	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:21:18 - [809] - Quote With thanks to all the people in this thread who did speculation, theorizing, checking & other stuff, I managed to create a nice article regarding all the Drifter-related stuff that appeared in this expansion! The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... Really wondering where all this is going to lead towards! Especially curious about those unidentified wormholes, a way to access Jove space if we can crack them open for our use? The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... The Republic strikes back!
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 964	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:04:41 - [810] - Quote Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity.

Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1611	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:11:08 - [811] - Quote Today's patch notes: Quote: The signature radius of the Unidentified Structure has been increased. Why increase the sig radius of something that can't take damages? Can you probe it down? What would be the point since you have the beacon allowing you to warp to it already. My bet is that this structure will eventually turn hostile and we will have the possibility to fight it. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 65	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:18:00 - [812] - Quote Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity. My alt ran a Limited Sleeper Cache yesterday. It was my first ever one, so I didn't pay much attention, but since you brought this up i'll add my 2 pence; The cache looked like it had already been attempted, but in a really minor way that I just don't see a Capsuleer doing. The first rift was already open, there was a lot of damaging AoE effects and one of the loot containers was already emptied, but that was it. The entire rest of the site was untouched and still very profitable. As I said, no idea if this is interesting knowledge, I'm not familiar enough with the sites to know, but there's my little story!
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 521	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:37:51 - [813] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity. My alt ran a Limited Sleeper Cache yesterday. It was my first ever one, so I didn't pay much attention, but since you brought this up i'll add my 2 pence; The cache looked like it had already been attempted, but in a really minor way that I just don't see a Capsuleer doing. The first rift was already open, there was a lot of damaging AoE effects and one of the loot containers was already emptied, but that was it. The entire rest of the site was untouched and still very profitable. As I said, no idea if this is interesting knowledge, I'm not familiar enough with the sites to know, but there's my little story! it is probable that someone attempted it already. Possibly they didn't have sufficient hacking skills and/or they were using a ship that is not very resistant so the AoE damage scared them off. I encountered a lot of these even before Tiamat. " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Blobskillz McBlub Manson Family Advent of Fate 22	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:39:16 - [814] - Quote so has noone tried polarized weapons yet?
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 65	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:40:38 - [815] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity. My alt ran a Limited Sleeper Cache yesterday. It was my first ever one, so I didn't pay much attention, but since you brought this up i'll add my 2 pence; The cache looked like it had already been attempted, but in a really minor way that I just don't see a Capsuleer doing. The first rift was already open, there was a lot of damaging AoE effects and one of the loot containers was already emptied, but that was it. The entire rest of the site was untouched and still very profitable. As I said, no idea if this is interesting knowledge, I'm not familiar enough with the sites to know, but there's my little story! it is probable that someone attempted it already. Possibly they didn't have sufficient hacking skills and/or they were using a ship that is not very resistant so the AoE damage scared them off. I encountered a lot of these even before Tiamat. Okay cool, thanks for the heads up. The AoE damage caught me off guard too, luckily I've been playing long enough to react quickly, haha.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 4747	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:55:14 - [816] - Quote Blobskillz McBlub wrote: so has noone tried polarized weapons yet? Yes, and no, it does nothing. Long answer.
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 521	Posted - 2015.02.18 12:02:01 - [817] - Quote Allant Doran wrote: Nami Kumamato wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity. My alt ran a Limited Sleeper Cache yesterday. It was my first ever one, so I didn't pay much attention, but since you brought this up i'll add my 2 pence; The cache looked like it had already been attempted, but in a really minor way that I just don't see a Capsuleer doing. The first rift was already open, there was a lot of damaging AoE effects and one of the loot containers was already emptied, but that was it. The entire rest of the site was untouched and still very profitable. As I said, no idea if this is interesting knowledge, I'm not familiar enough with the sites to know, but there's my little story! it is probable that someone attempted it already. Possibly they didn't have sufficient hacking skills and/or they were using a ship that is not very resistant so the AoE damage scared them off. I encountered a lot of these even before Tiamat. Okay cool, thanks for the heads up. The AoE damage caught me off guard too, luckily I've been playing long enough to react quickly, haha. The lower tier Sleeper Caches can be done in an Astero (from personal experience). Manual navigation advised. The big one requires some beef plus a way to deal with the sentries. Ssome - if not all - can be disabled by hacking certain structures, but in case you fail you should be prepared to either gtfo or fight/tank them. Stratios or Nestor recommended (although flying those in Null is like having a huge bullseye painted on your back - in the case of Nestor it's probably more akin to a deathwish). " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Allant Doran Patriot Security Services New Signature 65	Posted - 2015.02.18 12:11:05 - [818] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: The lower tier Sleeper Caches can be done in an Astero (from personal experience). Manual navigation advised. The big one requires some beef plus a way to deal with the sentries. Ssome - if not all - can be disabled by hacking certain structures, but in case you fail you should be prepared to either gtfo or fight/tank them. Stratios or Nestor recommended (although flying those in Null is like having a huge bullseye painted on your back - in the case of Nestor it's probably more akin to a deathwish). I'm currently using a very low-skilled Astero but it has been enough to scan down hi-sec, limited sleeper sites, which are generally easy enough. The Stratios is my favourite ship in the game, so I intend to have my alt get Mastery V in it eventually. I wish I could justify/risk the Nestor more too but it's just an expensive hull that offers no benefit worth it's cost. Especially, to bring this back on-topic, with the increase in interest (for me anyway) in the Drifters/Sleepers. More and more content seems to be relevant to what's coming from beyond K-Space but I've seen nothing yet that justifies the 1.X Billion Isk on a Nestor hull alone.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 964	Posted - 2015.02.18 12:35:27 - [819] - Quote Nami Kumamato wrote: Allant Doran wrote: Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote: Something has changed in the sleeper caches seemingly. I found a Standard Cache yesterday and along with the usual Hyperfluct gate there were two rifts open, both rifts took me to the site without need to hack the gate. On entry there was a large amount of toxic substances already scattered around the site making it much more difficult to navigate. I'm not sure why this was, or whether someone less prepared had stumbled into the site and triggered the extermination units through failing hacks. I failed none on the cans I could reach so couldn't say as none of the usual cans were missing. The riift to the hidden region was already cracked open too. It seems if it wasn't a capsuleer that triggered this event then whatever passed through to cause these sites damage in the first place has made a second pass. Either that or the Drifters are not taking too kindly to our curiosity. My alt ran a Limited Sleeper Cache yesterday. It was my first ever one, so I didn't pay much attention, but since you brought this up i'll add my 2 pence; The cache looked like it had already been attempted, but in a really minor way that I just don't see a Capsuleer doing. The first rift was already open, there was a lot of damaging AoE effects and one of the loot containers was already emptied, but that was it. The entire rest of the site was untouched and still very profitable. As I said, no idea if this is interesting knowledge, I'm not familiar enough with the sites to know, but there's my little story! it is probable that someone attempted it already. Possibly they didn't have sufficient hacking skills and/or they were using a ship that is not very resistant so the AoE damage scared them off. I encountered a lot of these even before Tiamat. That sounds very much like someone had already tried and failed the site and yes an astero is fine for the limited caches. I raised my findings with regards to the Standard cache as there were 2 rifts leading into the site whilst the Hyperfluct gate was still unhacked. Someone or somethinghad already hit this site and not in the way I had 'investigated' them previously. I hope those drifters haven't been keeping score :D
BugraT WarheaD 150	Posted - 2015.02.18 12:58:38 - [820] - Quote It seems that Drifter Battleships are entering Factionnal Warfare combat sites ... EVEN THE NOVICES ! For those who are not really aware, novices combat sites can only be entered by Tech I frigates ... And now by Drifter Battleships ! It seems that they are engaging militia pilots in the sites even if those pilots didn't engage the battleship first. http://tof.canardpc.com/view/fbd82d7b-7580-4379-b84f-6fba5b90b648.jpg <- sorry it's in french I know.

Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1103	Posted - 2015.02.18 15:02:10 - [821] - Quote BugraT WarheaD wrote: It seems that Drifter Battleships are entering Factionnal Warfare combat sites ... EVEN THE NOVICES ! For those who are not really aware, novices combat sites can only be entered by Tech I frigates ... And now by Drifter Battleships ! It seems that they are engaging militia pilots in the sites even if those pilots didn't engage the battleship first. http://tof.canardpc.com/view/fbd82d7b-7580-4379-b84f-6fba5b90b648.jpg <- sorry it's in french I know. Basically, just conversational about the encounter. "Found a drifter in a novice. Did you engage it? No. Holy ****! etc..." Curious that it A: went into a site of any kind. B: shot the pilot without provocation. Makes me wonder if perhaps the pilot had previously engaged a drifter elsewhere. Maybe they shoot based on standings. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
BugraT WarheaD 150	Posted - 2015.02.18 15:33:36 - [822] - Quote After chatting with the guy and other people online, he seems that he never engage the drifter but engage the caldari NPC. There's rumors about the fact that drifter attack people that are attacking their own target. The guy confirm that he has drones in passive mode, and didn't have Drifters on overview (to avoid attacking them by misclicking). He warp on novice, enter the plex, engage the Caldari NPC and ... Die. He only understand what happen while looking at the km : Quote: 2015.02.18 11:52:00 Victim: Alexandros hoMegas Corp: Prima Gallicus Alliance: Unknown Faction: Gallente Federation Destroyed: Tristan System: Heydieles Security: 0,3 Damage Taken: 1796 Involved parties: Name: Drifter Battleship / Unknown Damage Done: 1728 Name: State Frigate / Caldari State (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 68 I can ensure you that he was no dummy, so i think he's telling the truth about this.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6261	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:56:46 - [823] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: With thanks to all the people in this thread who did speculation, theorizing, checking & other stuff, I managed to create a nice article regarding all the Drifter-related stuff that appeared in this expansion! The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... Really wondering where all this is going to lead towards! Especially curious about those unidentified wormholes, a way to access Jove space if we can crack them open for our use? Nice little nod to Hellraiser there. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1397	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:25:19 - [824] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: With thanks to all the people in this thread who did speculation, theorizing, checking & other stuff, I managed to create a nice article regarding all the Drifter-related stuff that appeared in this expansion! The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... Really wondering where all this is going to lead towards! Especially curious about those unidentified wormholes, a way to access Jove space if we can crack them open for our use? Nice little nod to Hellraiser there. They are showing us a whole new world of pain As noted above, if these drifters remain this aggressive in sites & remain capable of warping into sites we can't with our battleships, alot of people are gonna lose ships! It is noted that the Drifters seem to have a weakness to ECM, one that seems to go further then just being unable to target you. When a Drifter is flooded with ECM, he seems to just turn idle & sit there, not fighting back even when the ECM drops off. Guess their cybernetic bodies get fried by our ECM, they weren't ready for it! (I suspect it'll get patched out/fixed at some point tho) The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... The Republic strikes back!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6262	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:30:20 - [825] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jandice Ymladris wrote: With thanks to all the people in this thread who did speculation, theorizing, checking & other stuff, I managed to create a nice article regarding all the Drifter-related stuff that appeared in this expansion! The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... Really wondering where all this is going to lead towards! Especially curious about those unidentified wormholes, a way to access Jove space if we can crack them open for our use? Nice little nod to Hellraiser there. They are showing us a whole new world of pain As noted above, if these drifters remain this aggressive in sites & remain capable of warping into sites we can't with our battleships, alot of people are gonna lose ships! It is noted that the Drifters seem to have a weakness to ECM, one that seems to go further then just being unable to target you. When a Drifter is flooded with ECM, he seems to just turn idle & sit there, not fighting back even when the ECM drops off. Guess their cybernetic bodies get fried by our ECM, they weren't ready for it! (I suspect it'll get patched out/fixed at some point tho) That's a good observation. WTB : Scorpion Bring back DEEEEP Space!
HeXxploiT Little Red X 98	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:27:30 - [826] - Quote I'm so confused. Can someone summarize the difference between Seeker and Drifter? For the longest time I was thinking they were the same thing.
Jandice Ymladris Aurora Arcology 1399	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:03:54 - [827] - Quote HeXxploiT wrote: I'm so confused. Can someone summarize the difference between Seeker and Drifter? For the longest time I was thinking they were the same thing. Currently the relation isn't fully understood. Seekers are the little circadian Seeker drones scanning everyone and being friendly, until you start shooting them. No idea if they are manned and if their allegiance is Sleepers or Drifters. The Drifters are the guys who recently appeared in big bad battleships, equipped with weapons that grind to dust any unprepared ship (including capitals) While they won't attack on sight, they are alot touchier then the Seekers. Approach their unidentified wormhole sites or the Uncloaked Pillars (the Jove stations) too close and they get mighty itchy with their trigger finger. The Drifter ships are also manned by the cybernetic Jove (Drifters? Sleepers? Enheduanni?) who are part of a faction called 'Vigilant Tyrannos' who seem to be heirs or descendants of the Second Jove Empire, a period that was a golden age for the Jove, where their technology was beyond what we have today (including the Jove Directorate we know) Also, CCP Paradox reveals the destruction numbers of the first day involving drifters: 217 capsuleer ships destroyed by the Drifters, versus 43 Drifter battleships destroyed by capsuleers They are showing us a whole new world of pain! The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us.... The Republic strikes back!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6263	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:13:32 - [828] - Quote Jandice Ymladris wrote: HeXxploiT wrote: I'm so confused. Can someone summarize the difference between Seeker and Drifter? For the longest time I was thinking they were the same thing. Currently the relation isn't fully understood. Seekers are the little circadian Seeker drones scanning everyone and being friendly, until you start shooting them. No idea if they are manned and if their allegiance is Sleepers or Drifters. The Drifters are the guys who recently appeared in big bad battleships, equipped with weapons that grind to dust any unprepared ship (including capitals) While they won't attack on sight, they are alot touchier then the Seekers. Approach their unidentified wormhole sites or the Uncloaked Pillars (the Jove stations) too close and they get mighty itchy with their trigger finger. The Drifter ships are also manned by the cybernetic Jove (Drifters? Sleepers? Enheduanni?) who are part of a faction called 'Vigilant Tyrannos' who seem to be heirs or descendants of the Second Jove Empire, a period that was a golden age for the Jove, where their technology was beyond what we have today (including the Jove Directorate we know) Also, CCP Paradox reveals the destruction numbers of the first day involving drifters: 217 capsuleer ships destroyed by the Drifters, versus 43 Drifter battleships destroyed by capsuleers They are showing us a whole new world of pain! Has CODE. tried bumping them yet? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Semma-Creative Severasse Shadow Assault Squad 1	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:19:43 - [829] - Quote Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29951	Posted - 2015.02.19 01:53:40 - [830] - Quote I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.

Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6268	Posted - 2015.02.19 01:57:16 - [831] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. Not unless they have tactical shield manipulation. Just kidding. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ned Thomas Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 921	Posted - 2015.02.19 01:59:19 - [832] - Quote Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. Vote Sabriz!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6273	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:06:15 - [833] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. A caldari gallente alliance would be formidable. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 19	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:13:10 - [834] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. I'm starting to think that these 'drifters'/'Vigilant Tyrannos' aren't actually Jove, but trying to make us THINK they're jove. Somebody, either sleepers or these guys, stole a whole bunch of jove bits through identity theft. And all the drifter pilots are virtually identical as far as we can tell. So... why do you need a bunch of exploded cloned jove bits, and then suddenly show up in heavily cybernetic bodies? This is completely precluding the whole 'Minmitar would only work with the Amarr willingly if the literal apocalypse (not the battleship) was at hand and the only chance to survive was to join forces. The whole 'slavery' bit is still a bit of a sticking point.
BugraT WarheaD 151	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:59:00 - [835] - Quote Alliances beetwen factions that are actually in war is very unlikely.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 4860	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:45:53 - [836] - Quote Here's the resist info I calculated, for anyone interested. Overshield/Shield: EM: 50% Thermal: 20% Kinetic: 50% Explosive: 50% Armor: EM: 10% Thermal: 50% Kinetic: 50% Explosive: 50% Structure is 0%. Since Armor is its toughest pure HP defense, you will want to shoot EM.
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 504	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:49:20 - [837] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. I would rather drive an Amarrian flag into Matar, preferably through the body of Maleatu Shakor at the same time, than ally with those recidivists ^_^ "For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 4860	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:49:50 - [838] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. The Overshield resets all damage to the shield. So it'd be two shots.
Nami Kumamato School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 523	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:49:53 - [839] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. What I find crazy-nuts is that CONCORD has a Jovian bat-phone. They even presumably have a Jovian representative in the Inner Circle (however we know they have not been in contact for a long time - since the Sansha incursion in Jove space if I'm not mistaking). So have they tried contacting him (in the light of recent events) ? And if they did, have the Jove replied ? And if they replied - what was their response? I find it hard to believe that the minute advanced Jove tech starts shooting things in Empire space, not to mention Jove stations uncloaking in our backyard, CONCORD is not overheating the Jovian bat-phone. If all CONCORD got was "Your message was seen on [insert stellar date here]" - things don't sound so good. " And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit - I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! " - Ramona McCandless, Untitled
Anthar Thebess 879	Posted - 2015.02.19 13:09:28 - [840] - Quote I think that at some point they will just come and kill group that was killing them since they show up. NPC factions are not attacking them , so this leaves only capsulers. Have you noticed that they have in their corp decryption : Controlled systems : 0 Controlled stations : 0 Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.

Azami Nevinyrall Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 2219	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:46:00 - [841] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. The Overshield resets all damage to the shield. So it'd be two shots. Once you get through the "blue" shields, everyone that has a lock on it is broken, and whoever knocked it's shield out suddenly explodes... Hello, world!
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 266	Posted - 2015.02.19 17:31:46 - [842] - Quote BugraT WarheaD wrote: Alliances beetwen factions that are actually in war is very unlikely. Technically.. Only the Amarr and Minmatar are truly at war. Gal/Cal have occasional skirmishes, but as a general rule they don't go looking for fights. (Luminiare was more an opportunity that couldn't be passed up, than a resurgence of war.. hence why nothing really happened after it.) Hell it's not the first time a major event happened between these two powers that could have lead to full scale war but both sites declined.. Kamikaze Nyx anyone? Caldari Prime also is a rather special case in relations, being the Caldari Homeworld, and in Gal space.. As a Gal, I personally would rather be working with the Caldari, than the Minmatar. Despite history, both sides are cultural.. compatable? They were together for a long time, so they already understand eachother. Neither side has shown any interest in a major war, expansion, etc. Both have stable Gov't, strong economies. And while I feel for the Minmatar, they do sometimes act like spoiled brats. What really irked me with them was right after Caldari Prime, the Minm sent a fleet into Gal space to try and retrieve a Prisoner. Now they got beat down, hard, but if this is what we can expect from our Allies, then I'd rather be with the Caldari, where they are less emotional and more, looking at the bottom line, so to speak. Lastly, the Alliance between the Amarr and Caldari isn't one based on culture, shared ideals, etc. For the Caldari, it's about business, for the Amarr it's a buffer against the Gal. Not to mention the fact that on a socio-economic way, the Caldari-Galtente are likely the two most closely tied empires. Right down to joint businesses.. I don't think you'll find any Amarr-Minmatar co-op's. It is also worth reminding everyone that all empires HAVE worked together before, as a unified force. It's how the Sansha were originally defeated. They are more than able to do it if they feel it's in their benefit (or no other choice). Personally.. I think Gal-Caldari getting closer, and Gal-Minm getting farther apart would make for some interesting events.. But this is all a little OT for the Drifter talk. I think we need some drifters on the Jita undock.. maybe.. 40 or so.. I feel good things could come from this :)
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 4931	Posted - 2015.02.19 21:15:50 - [843] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. The Overshield resets all damage to the shield. So it'd be two shots. Once you get through the "blue" shields, everyone that has a lock on it is broken, and whoever knocked it's shield out suddenly explodes... I know?
Semma-Creative Severasse Shadow Assault Squad 1	Posted - 2015.02.19 23:05:34 - [844] - Quote Captain Davison wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Semma-Creative Severasse wrote: Its cool to see Mimnatar not "mobilizing fleets" like the other factions. This clearly reflects the good standing the Jove has with the Minmatar. Heh good think I have a really good standing with Minm Here, you wanna go crazy-go-nuts with this, imagine: The Amarr and Minmatar have shown the least distress over the appearance of the Drifters....so......somewhere in this storyline, an event will cause the Minmatar and Amarr to join forces on behalf of the Drifters/Seekers, while the Caldari and Gallente are forced to either team up or be destroyed, thus redrawing the warzones in faction warfare. Now that would be a fun twist. I'm starting to think that these 'drifters'/'Vigilant Tyrannos' aren't actually Jove, but trying to make us THINK they're jove. Somebody, either sleepers or these guys, stole a whole bunch of jove bits through identity theft. And all the drifter pilots are virtually identical as far as we can tell. So... why do you need a bunch of exploded cloned jove bits, and then suddenly show up in heavily cybernetic bodies? This is completely precluding the whole 'Minmitar would only work with the Amarr willingly if the literal apocalypse (not the battleship) was at hand and the only chance to survive was to join forces. The whole 'slavery' bit is still a bit of a sticking point. My assumption is that they are Jove, that either hit a limit with genetic modifications, turned to cybernetic. OR got exiled by the Jove becuase of their cybernetic mods, hence the name "Drifters". We all know how the Jove used to believe in genetic mods They could be exploring with seekers to try and find new technologies. But I doubt that, considering how much more advanced they are. I'm excited to see what we can learn from them though. New T3s, something like from sleeper loot (tactical destroyers), but from drifter loot (still don't like the idea of shooting them) or from SOE reaching out to contact
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29956	Posted - 2015.02.20 00:42:03 - [845] - Quote Im trying to figure out if I have it in me this weekend for more sisi Drifter testing. I'm thinking no. They're more common in the south? Is that what I read Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1115	Posted - 2015.02.20 15:02:58 - [846] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. 6 Moroses? :nods: perhaps http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Vladof Alduin The Graduates Forged of Fire 5	Posted - 2015.03.01 15:26:51 - [847] - Quote Went to thera today for some sightseeing, and found something interesting: Planet 8 (Thera VIII) is a shattered world but has a surface gravity of 17,3 m^2/s^2. Which is very weird because according to the data from https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Shattered_Planets shattered worlds have very very low surface gravities. Planets 1 to 7 in thera has correct gravities (in-game info windows shows their gravity as 0.0 but its correct). So, either CCP made a mistake about planet 8's data or planet 8 is not a shattered planet, it might be normal but made to look like a shattered world so somebody or something can use it as hiding place. Considering unidentified wh's used by drifters lead to thera, and some communication relay in one of the sites (Expedition Co....... i don't remember the full name) in thera says in its description: "... seems to be knocked out of comission by several precise energy weapon strikes to its processing cores(drifters use energy weapons)" i think theplanet has important role in drifter activity.
GC94 Hive Industries 0	Posted - 2015.03.22 15:48:49 - [848] - Quote so here's and after action report on the sleepers in Marosier. i jumped to the unidentified structure today at 3pm (gmt) following their fleet (5 cruisers), at first they didn't attack me so i sat and watched them for a a few seconds before they started to do something to the jump beacon and for a brief moment it looked like the same effect as a webber or wormhole with the spherical center and wavy distortion effect but i didn't get a good look as they quickly attacked and i jumped the hell out of there. I decided to go back 20 mins later and they where gone so i sat at 175Km from the beacon to see what they would do when they came back. after a few mins they came back and immediately locked and attacked again without hitting so again i jumped out to 100km from a station intending to go back again but they followed me there and attacked again but this time they took my shields down to 20% with their first shot and took 10% off my armor before i could jump again. I'm going back to see if i can find out anything else.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18005	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:09:27 - [849] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: Prt Scr wrote: Hopefully they are a new station type, not sleeper carriers Maybe those are Jove cloning facilities or body storages. I wonder why currently existing Drifter characters (Apollo, Strategos, Artemis and Hikanta) all have same appearance? Was it simply CCP laziness\oversight or this was intentional to make them all look like clones? Hm- looks like you got the answer to that now, at least partially "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Tuttomenui II Aliastra Gallente Federation 258	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:17:01 - [850] - Quote Has anyone tried to engage drifters with a POS. Would be interesting to see what the super weapon would do to one.

Prt Scr 569th Freelancers 124	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:13:14 - [851] - Quote as of todays patch, the unknown stucture in Kirras is called 'Jove observatory'. It has also been damaged/distroyed and has parts actualy blown out. u+É-¦ssn+¦ p+É¦¥+¦ -ç,u+É+ö -¦ -çnq -Ä+¦+¦os +»,-¦
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18006	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:33:42 - [852] - Quote Prt Scr wrote: as of todays patch, the unknown stucture in Kirras is called 'Jove observatory'. It has also been damaged/distroyed and has parts actualy blown out. Yup! The Drifters and Seekers have been observed burning into the sides of them with a beam, then tractor ing something with the same beam they used on the corpses in the trailer. "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Ned Thomas Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 1299	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:49:42 - [853] - Quote I knew the towers and the Drifters/Seekers weren't part of the same group. Can't wait to see them working over an observatory. Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers! Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1185	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:02:54 - [854] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm willing to bet I can blap Drifters dead before they let off a superweapon, using some Serpentis webs and target painters to lock it down nice and snug before an 18 gun salute from siege Moroses. A blap Phoenix under similar conditions (double-faction web Vigilant) using Improved Crash and all relevant skills at 5 (excepting Caldari Dread 4) will 1-shot it through the initial shield layer. Another 3 volleys will finish it off, assuming it doesn't take out the webbing ship first. They have been known to do that on sisi. If you bring a heated triple faction TP Hyena and a triple faction web Daredevil, then maybe. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 20	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:10:49 - [855] - Quote Soldarius wrote: deleted by author as duplicate response So the Drifters are salvaging Jove bodies? This coincides with the message that were claimed to have been sent by Hilen Tukoss asking for jovian body parts. Check IGS forums for details. Yeah, as far as I know, I was the first one to put the pieces together a while back when they started emerging.
Sansh Leko The Scope Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:23:50 - [856] - Quote We have seen in Fanfest trailer "Emergent Threats" that Seekers are now officially corpse collectors. Gentleman Gamer released a footage of the actual ingame Seeker scooping Maverick body seen near the end of his video. Seeker Experiment Now that is some weird awesome creepy thing right there, dont know if anyone of you have seen the video but you should check it. Also go ahead and feed them Sekkers, help them build the army WTB 1000 Corpses. EVE Forever
Lachesiss nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness 312	Posted - 2015.03.25 12:13:19 - [857] - Quote I had a hilarious moment on a gate last night. I jumped into a system and saw 2 drifter battleships and a sleeper just sitting there on a gate. With all the alpha these drifter bs give out I sat there in my cloak timer thinking hmm. do i decloak.. will i get blown up. at that point just before I decloaked all 3 ships warped off. I Have kept up to date on the drifters to the point that I didnt know they hang around gates. Do they agress on gates now or only if provoked?.. On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Ned Thomas Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 1319	Posted - 2015.03.25 13:38:03 - [858] - Quote Lachesiss wrote: I had a hilarious moment on a gate last night. I jumped into a system and saw 2 drifter battleships and a sleeper just sitting there on a gate. With all the alpha these drifter bs give out I sat there in my cloak timer thinking hmm. do i decloak.. will i get blown up. at that point just before I decloaked all 3 ships warped off. I Have kept up to date on the drifters to the point that I didnt know they hang around gates. Do they agress on gates now or only if provoked?.. So far as I know, they only agress unprovoked at the Jove Observatories (formerly Unidentified Structures) and Unidentified Wormholes. Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers! Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
Lachesiss nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness 312	Posted - 2015.03.25 13:52:05 - [859] - Quote Also on a blah blah note. Wasnt there a summit of the leaders of all 4 races and concord regarding this recently. Sorry to be dumb but why the hell did they put themselves all in one basket. Also why are concord treating any of them as a threat?. There killing chars left right and center. Surely this is enough reason for concord to blob them out of existence On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Ned Thomas Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 1320	Posted - 2015.03.25 15:35:40 - [860] - Quote Hmmmm.....seems I might be wrong on the "they only attack under certain conditions"...lots of people are saying that Seekers will attack anywhere and everywhere now for no reason. Guess they really want those corpses. Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers! Onward to Thera with Eve Scout

Tetsuya Ogeko Akimamur Industries 1	Posted - 2015.03.25 20:10:17 - [861] - Quote They seem to have their own corp now with two dudes in it. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000274/
Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 21	Posted - 2015.03.26 00:39:54 - [862] - Quote You know, could it be possible that the big thing behind that sleeper structure seen in the trailer could have been a sleeper Iaptian Titan? Their capital, if you will, and the probable center of a future live event?
TheSmokingHertog TALIBAN EXPRESS 300	Posted - 2015.03.26 01:55:10 - [863] - Quote Tetsuya Ogeko wrote: They seem to have their own corp now with two dudes in it. That highsec kills.... be carefull with posting KB's outside C&P though.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6492	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:43:14 - [864] - Quote Tetsuya Ogeko wrote: They seem to have their own corp now with two dudes in it. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000274/ :-O NPCs with killboards! Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 21	Posted - 2015.03.26 04:02:03 - [865] - Quote Devs, there is some speculation on the Interstellar Summit that the Drifter weapons are in fact some kind of meson beam. Could we get confirmation yea/nay?
Lord Doomberries Savoy Technologies 4	Posted - 2015.03.27 18:30:04 - [866] - Quote Saw a patrol of Drifters in Sibe and decided to attack them, all went well until the battleships showed up lol, do not advise... they like two hit killed my tengu :(
Arla Sarain 368	Posted - 2015.03.27 21:18:55 - [867] - Quote New vid up at now.eveonline.com Apparently they are taking apart the observatories. Weird.
VTyx Soul MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels 45	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:00:13 - [868] - Quote Intersting, I wonder why they are harvesting the materials. We know of the connection between sleepers and the jovians. The observatorys must contain data or technology which the sleepers can not fully engineer currently.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6505	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:03:38 - [869] - Quote They are probably after more than bodies. They are building something. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18011	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:24:17 - [870] - Quote 3/27: ADDITIONAL MATERIAL: READ THESE https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=413381&find=unread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=404435&find=unread There's a lot more going on than I was able to know when I wrote this- these give more information :) "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*

Captain Davison Malachi Keep Detachments 22	Posted - 2015.03.27 23:31:07 - [871] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: They are probably after more than bodies. They are building something. What, like an Iaptian Titan, or a super-station?
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 986	Posted - 2015.03.28 00:59:43 - [872] - Quote Captain Davison wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: They are probably after more than bodies. They are building something. What, like an Iaptian Titan, or a super-station? I may have pointed out that the Jove observatories would result in hilarious grid clearing fun if they were to warp in during an event at Fanfest. If I had, it would have been met by some of the more joyful evil laughter I have heard since giving some one a Nerf Firefly modified to fire with an electromagnetic catapult.
Hiram Alexander State Reprisal 355	Posted - 2015.03.28 01:42:15 - [873] - Quote Captain Davison wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: They are probably after more than bodies. They are building something. What, like an Iaptian Titan, or a super-station? INB4 "They're building Ishtars..."
Commissar Kate GoonWaffe 399853	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:00:08 - [874] - Quote Hiram Alexander wrote: Captain Davison wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: They are probably after more than bodies. They are building something. What, like an Iaptian Titan, or a super-station? INB4 "They're building Ishtars..." Well you can't go wrong with Ishtars. -k8 My Fanclub
Celthric Kanerian Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation 260	Posted - 2015.04.03 21:36:31 - [875] - Quote Maybe building motherships as the one which appeared at Battle of Vak'Atioth?
Malgalad Shrubbery Acquisitions Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance 9	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:56:44 - [876] - Quote From what I've read about the Drifters is that they can't be taken down by subcaps, i saw the vid of a Cerberus doing this, but it was later "patched" so that the Drifters adapted and could web/nuke out to a Cerberus' kiting range. please correct me if i'm wrong on this? or does jamming/dampening them work? So if this is the case Drifters can't be dealt with in highsec, could this be a prelude to Concord/faction navies allowing capitals into highsec, something that devs mentioned may happen at some point? thoughts?
Asura Vajrarupa Mud-N-Sparklez 46	Posted - 2015.04.05 01:04:35 - [877] - Quote Malgalad wrote: From what I've read about the Drifters is that they can't be taken down by subcaps, i saw the vid of a Cerberus doing this, but it was later "patched" so that the Drifters adapted and could web/nuke out to a Cerberus' kiting range. please correct me if i'm wrong on this? or does jamming/dampening them work? So if this is the case Drifters can't be dealt with in highsec, could this be a prelude to Concord/faction navies allowing capitals into highsec, something that devs mentioned may happen at some point? thoughts? It definitely suggests that we are looking at an end to the "Empyrean War"". Capsuleers and the Drifters are both entities not tied to a single body, both command massive ships capable of great destruction, both have agendas that are barely fathomable to a normal mortal, and both seemingly do not care for each other at all. Both groups are infomorphs, both groups are at cross purposes. "Infomorph War" it is. Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18087	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:13:40 - [878] - Quote Hello everyone! It's been a while since I last posted here, but I felt it would be worth it to showcase the main theory I've worked on regarding who and what the Drifters are: You can read it here! Anyhow, with the Entosis links on the horizon, I'm hoping we'll be seeing more interesting events unfolding soon! "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1783	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:17:44 - [879] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Hello everyone! It's been a while since I last posted here, but I felt it would be worth it to showcase the main theory I've worked on regarding who and what the Drifters are: You can read it here! Be sure to listen in on the Aideron Robotics Entosis Lore Panel tomorrow night for discussion on this and more! text is a bit light on white...... bad. This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others .... "I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon Ron Gilbert made me cry.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises 18088	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:23:52 - [880] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Hello everyone! It's been a while since I last posted here, but I felt it would be worth it to showcase the main theory I've worked on regarding who and what the Drifters are: You can read it here! Be sure to listen in on the Aideron Robotics Entosis Lore Panel tomorrow night for discussion on this and more! text is a bit light on white...... bad. Ah, that appears to be a problem on mobile- it does that for me too. I'll adjust it to make it universally viewable :P "A City made of Dreams...is built in heaven" - GÖâ- GPƒ *U-Ç+¬ß¦ç-ƒ's Sß¦¢ß¦Å-Ç-Å*

Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1783	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:26:31 - [881] - Quote nice summary! txtcolour is horrible though. chrome on android. edit: thanks! :) great font btw! :) This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others .... "I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon Ron Gilbert made me cry.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1625	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:44:20 - [882] - Quote Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote: Hello everyone! It's been a while since I last posted here, but I felt it would be worth it to showcase the main theory I've worked on regarding who and what the Drifters are: You can read it here! Be sure to listen in on the Aideron Robotics Entosis Lore Panel tomorrow night for discussion on this and more! text is a bit light on white...... bad. Ah, that appears to be a problem on mobile- it does that for me too. I'll adjust it to make it universally viewable :P Is it supposed to be black text on #2c2b2b grey?
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1785	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:47:07 - [883] - Quote Now it's black text and properly readable. Before it was too light. This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others .... "I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon Ron Gilbert made me cry.
Adacia Calla Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 67	Posted - 2015.04.13 12:50:51 - [884] - Quote What exactly is wrong with black text on white background, like everything else in the written language for the last 5000 years? Test signature....forum not applying settings :(
Soldarius Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent 1249	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:28:44 - [885] - Quote Adacia Calla wrote: What exactly is wrong with black text on white background, like everything else in the written language for the last 5000 years? Plz, show us all some examples of black text on a white background from 5000 years ago. I'm sure the ancient Sumerians were quite adept at bleaching tree-pulp. On topic, nice summary. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Hicksimus Xion Limited Resonance. 584	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:10:09 - [886] - Quote Adacia Calla wrote: What exactly is wrong with black text on white background, like everything else in the written language for the last 5000 years? 10/10 this trolling will change the thread topic to the history of paper. Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
Adacia Calla Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 68	Posted - 2015.04.13 16:13:27 - [887] - Quote Soldarius wrote: Adacia Calla wrote: What exactly is wrong with black text on white background, like everything else in the written language for the last 5000 years? Plz, show us all some examples of black text on a white background from 5000 years ago. I'm sure the ancient Sumerians were quite adept at bleaching tree-pulp. On topic, nice summary. Dark pigment on a MUCH LIGHTER background has been incredibly prevalent in the written history of the human race. Not ******* black on near-black background. Test signature....forum not applying settings :(
TheSmokingHertog TALIBAN EXPRESS 304	Posted - 2015.04.14 11:28:01 - [888] - Quote When the Jove Empire collapsed, and then when the seekers found a way to destabilize the listening network, causing a decloaking all over.... Where there still Jove bodies in these outposts, or were they all gone? If so... would the seekers be collecting Jove bodies from the observatories?


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