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Blitzkrieg
The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:34:00 -
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One ship, a rather large one I might add, but is it all it takes to generate all this sudden hate from BoB?
CCP needs to add to Titan a dual bonus: "Increase forum flammage by 100% and add 25% to bagwagon per level"
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Originally by: Nira Li hmm...
I hope CEO Pyrex and his guys won't hide as much this time.
Cya.
No idea who you are or why you are smacking me. its a game...... a game..... you know...not real
So you want to smack me cos i took the moral highground huh? well srry dude, i love this game but not enough to take it as serious as you seem to. sure i wil fight and die many times to bob, you guys are prolly the best eve has to offer but i fail to see why the need to insult me personally. in fact to memory i havnt met you in game or real life ever so again im at a loss unless this is an attempt at 'jive' talk lol
Lets just try to have some fun eh? and leave the stupid child speak for those that play WOW :P
CEO Pyrex Confused at the hate
Meh it's not smack =( I'm just grumpy, the Xetic war was so boring with you guys in a safe most of the time and it ruined my movie.
Cya.
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Cyvok has never condoned us doing anything that GMs have deemed an exploit.
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Trev Kachanov
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:37:00 -
[304]
finally time to burn off some war stock :)
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:39:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
considering the things we've been thru in this game, one cannot be too carefull.
experience told us in the past that what's blue now, might turn red in half hour. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Blitzkrieg One ship, a rather large one I might add, but is it all it takes to generate all this sudden hate from BoB?
CCP needs to add to Titan a dual bonus: "Increase forum flammage by 100% and add 25% to bagwagon per level"
lol
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
I was wondering who you reminded me of. It's Judge Dredd.
Awful movie btw. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
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Hast, one point.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
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Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
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Riddari, serve.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Bishop 5
Gallente Perfect Order
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
[311]
fraps plz :D
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Spikum
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Spikum on 28/09/2006 19:43:59
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Hi Nez,
Just wanted to chip in a bit and say that it does sound like your following the tried and tested Bob propoganda line of saying something over and over again for 40 pages means its true.
Look at the facts, TWD posts something which is immediately claimed by a bunch of junior (i presume grunt level) ASCN memebers as taken totally out of context in a larger post by CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME speaking against this type of tactic.
Now for a rebuke against a forum slur it was pretty concise by all repliers about what the post actually said. So it makes me believe the post is..
1. real on the ASCN forums. 2. been partially quoted to give the forums sommit to rabble about to work as propoganda, hence why TWD bothered in the first place.
But underlaying it all you gotta think for a just a second is CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME absoultely retarded enough to post a "Rite we are all going to exploit on mass" plan on the ASCN forums which as everyone knows every man and their dog can get access too? Really? You really think what your trying to imply is the truth?
So stop banging on about it and let the smack continue on a more base level. I repeat my earlier point. Saying something repeatedly for 40 pages till the lock, doesnt make it true.
But hey, it's your friends war and your rep so you play it your way...
Best Regards,
Taurequis
/goes back to the popcorn.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
You are a biased referee. We know you want to have his babies! ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
HordeZla
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:47:00 -
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too much to read in such a short time....
Have fun to the hostiles, lets keep it smack free, I have been given a global muting
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:47:00 -
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I cba reading all posts, and I am not an official spokesman of ascn, but about lag:
1. You might aswell wait for us to actually lag you out before whining on forums - when we "thought" aaa lagged us out on purpose we had the decency to wait until we got spanked before complaining about it
2. If we create lag *on purpose* you can petition us and we all get banned for violating eula.
3. It doesnt take 300 people to lag the node to death, right now systems cant stand over 100-150 people unless they are assigned their own nodes. So yes, nodes will crash - and you know it. You you decided to pull this pre-empitive forum spin tho, impressive
- Gob
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
I'm getting too old for this
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Doomsday Machine
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Wow, TWD posted a snipped log from ASCN's private forums and lemmings like you scream bloody murder at ASCN for pre-meditated lag expoits. I wish everyone was as gullable as you.
Dumbest troll to bless this thread, maybe you should stop whining and read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Liet Traep on 28/09/2006 20:04:30 Edited by: Liet Traep on 28/09/2006 20:03:54
Originally by: Grimpak nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!",[/quote
nah, it's just me dude. Screaming in the wilderness. This reminds me more and more like the last days of xetic. So many of the same players are in different corps and alliances now but I bet you a large number of the BoB players fought against xetic in that war then. This is going to be exciting and only happening about a year after I expected it.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Taurequis
Hi Nez,
Just wanted to chip in a bit and say that it does sound like your following the tried and tested Bob propoganda line of saying something over and over again for 40 pages means its true.
Look at the facts, TWD posts something which is immediately claimed by a bunch of junior (i presume grunt level) ASCN memebers as taken totally out of context in a larger post by CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME speaking against this type of tactic.
Now for a rebuke against a forum slur it was pretty concise by all repliers about what the post actually said. So it makes me believe the post is..
1. real on the ASCN forums. 2. been partially quoted to give the forums sommit to rabble about to work as propoganda, hence why TWD bothered in the first place.
But underlaying it all you gotta think for a just a second is CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME absoultely retarded enough to post a "Rite we are all going to exploit on mass" plan on the ASCN forums which as everyone knows every man and their dog can get access too? Really? You really think what your trying to imply is the truth?
So stop banging on about it and let the smack continue on a more base level. I repeat my earlier point. Saying something repeatedly for 40 pages till the lock, doesnt make it true.
But hey, it's your friends war and your rep so you play it your way...
Best Regards,
Taurequis
/goes back to the popcorn.
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Originally by: Cyvok As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above. Until CCP posts publicly that these are Exploits and publicly states they will start enforcing bans against their users, I say **** Um. If ASCN comes under attack and we have 600 players crash the server maybe CCP will finally realize the scope of the problem that have. The good players of EvE do not deserve to get their asses handed to them in every battle because we refuse to break the rules when our enemies have been getting away with it for years, and now the use of such ôtacticsö are becoming epidemic.
.. this from the full version of the document posted by Truth1.
The document, whilst referring to -AAA-/Red and their supposedly dirty tactics, does authorise premeditated node crashing. The line that ASCN are peddling is that they would only use such tactics against -AAA-/Red. There are posts to that effect already in this thread.
Now... if BoB are deemed to be "bad" people there is no reason, based upon the above logic, why premeditated node crashing would not be authorised for BoB also.
I have no idea where from the ASCN forums, these posts came from, it does not matter, the fact of the matter is that Cyvok wrote them. He is the maximum authority within ASCN.
The cat is out of the bag, I'm afraid, and the onus is really on ASCN to categorically debunk it at an official level.
I think this issue is important enough to be raised again and again.
The servers are already straining under the increased playerbase, it only takes around 200 pilots to crash a system these days, particularly when POS are the backdrop to an engagement.
The mere suggestion of pre-meditated node crashes on a server that is already near breaking point is nothing short of criminal.
If ASCN, one of the foremost alliances in the game with a wealth of resources at its disposal and a huge number base to draw on feels it necessary to stoop to such levels.. what possible hope is there for EVE as a game. Instead of setting an example, ASCN would be promoting the mindset which encourages players to do anything to avoid losing.
Thats why I think this is important and why I will keep posting on this issue.
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iqplayer
Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
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*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: DTee
Originally by: The Armin Good luck to old enemies in BoB, except DTee, you get no good luck =P. Have fun everyone.
Now thats not nice :( Why you gota play like that? Why not love for me? I would wish you goodluck after all.
Cause you yelled at me in local once :(
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
I'm getting too old for this
You'll manage, we have a long way to go yet
Eve Blacklight Style
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:10:00 -
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Hello.
Lets play a game called "Spot the Hypocrisy".
Originally by: CYVOK Blog 25 Their has NEVER been a force in EvE that has successfully built an Alliance to the strength and accomplishment of ASCN. NEVER has an Alliance of Alliances been established in such a way that they act as one like that of ASCN, AXE & POS. Never has one organization been able to establish a feeling of belonging to something bigger then their own Corp like this group. NEVER has any organization ever done the above and remained honorable, honest, fair and respectful to the rest of the EvE player base.
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Originally by: CYVOK Blog 25 What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
Scream of misquotes, and preach context all you like. CYVOK's Blog is rapidly approaching the legendary status of Ragnar's Hat and the Remedial Solution.
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |
Aceformat
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:11:00 -
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I've flown with many of the DICE members while I was with VLINC in the north against what was NBSI, PA and RISK (Who are still going) not to mention all the other factions, and the majority of those people I respect. BOB on the whole I know of this fear you seem to hold over people for what reason I cannot understand but I know this much, new to ASCN I may be but I will fight for every inch of ASCN homeland, be it with the end of my pod or yours.
Flames and propoganda do not bother me, yes I've died at the hands of bob pilots and yes Ive killed some. the truth will be known in the comming weeks, months, hell years. "gf" will be the only local chatter you see from me, lets hope you act accordingly also.
GL but more importantly HF
(these are my opinions alone)
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:13:40
Originally by: iqplayer
*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
I have read all threads pertaining to the 9uy UK/ISS/MC vs Assorted Pirates war, tyvm.
Whilst yes nodes in large scale conflicts will crash, it is unavoidable with the current state of the servers, using additional "tactics" (shuttles, offline modules, cramming systems full of non-combat pilots etc..) on purpose is quite another.
And that is what the quoted post from the ASCN forums alludes to, and that is what ASCN leadership need to address....
Accidental node crashing, is one thing, crashing the node intentionally to avoid losing a battle is quite another.. and there is a difference.
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist CYVOK's Blog is rapidly approaching the legendary status of Ragnar's Hat and the Remedial Solution.
Hi Digi!
I see you found something, categorically not applicable in the context you portray it, which you will repeat 2140 times the next 7 days to make it so!
CONGRATS!
Oh man he is always so happy when he makes up a bone like this and gets to chew on it forever.
I remember Fountain 2003. EVOL didn't reach its claimed goal there and hasn't since then, except for Delve.
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
The document, whilst referring to -AAA-/Red and their supposedly dirty tactics, does authorise premeditated node crashing.
The way I read that, the node crashing mentioned here is neither intentional nor premeditated, but simply a side effect of the gameplay. However, my opinion is anything but official so I somehow doubt it will appease you.
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Cloue
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:13:40
Originally by: iqplayer
*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
I have read all threads pertaining to the 9uy UK/ISS/MC vs Assorted Pirates war, tyvm.
Whilst yes nodes in large scale conflicts will crash, it is unavoidable with the current state of the servers, using additional "tactics" (shuttles, offline modules, cramming systems full of non-combat pilots etc..) on purpose is quite another.
And that is what the quoted post from the ASCN forums alludes to, and that is what ASCN leadership need to address....
Accidental node crashing, is one thing, crashing the node intentionally to avoid losing a battle is quite another.. and there is a difference.
Why do you care so much, how does this affect you, go back under your rock worm
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CYVOK
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
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