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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:12:00 -
[871]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that. --
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:13:00 -
[872]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
And again proving BOBs rise to sainthood as the most baffling ever.
Their constant out of game espionage has been happening since 2002 (yes.. before release).
As for John, he is responsible for his own words. I don't even have access to those forums myself nor do I have a reason to.
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
It is not honorable, and its pretty ****ty for themselves but they chose their bed. Out of game open season? You don't want that if you want them to keep playing with you.
NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
Put it back in the holster or bleed.
Off you go then. --------------
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Sevyc
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:15:00 -
[873]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
I'm confused, why does this BoB person have access to what looks to be an internal ASCN corp forum?
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:15:00 -
[874]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that.
If there`s a bug in your killboards, how can we be certain that your loses is 100% genuin? I call that lack of reliability.
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:16:00 -
[875]
Originally by: Sevyc I'm confused, why does this BoB person have access to what looks to be an internal ASCN corp forum?
Because everyone but me has an alt in that corporation.
This is nothing new from BOB.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:18:00 -
[876]
Originally by: KSUDruid What is your freaking problem dude? Now you're threatening Dev's that are (supposedly, lol) in BoB? Are you really that insecure that you want to take on the creators of this game?
Originally by: Reddari NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
See it this time?
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:19:00 -
[877]
Less espionage makes for a better game and more interesting.
For everyone.
Surely you can't deny that.
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ItakeItDeep
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:19:00 -
[878]
Edited by: ItakeItDeep on 30/09/2006 00:19:07 not again
- I you see this post, then I screwed up. alt by NAFnist
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:20:00 -
[879]
Originally by: NAFnist About the spies thing. Its about how far you push it. Personally I dont need inside info to help kill my foes.
But dont come here complaining. It said Espionage on Feature List in manual ;p
That website isn't part of Exefile.exe
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:20:00 -
[880]
About the spies thing. Its about how far you push it. Personally I dont need inside info to help kill my foes.
But dont come here complaining. It said Espionage on Feature List in manual ;p
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[881]
this is just a phase all peeps that have ever come up agianst All of BoB accuse the same thing..
its ok..
your seat number is 175460 and here is your "Welcome to the FanClub" manual..
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[882]
Originally by: Reddari Less espionage makes for a better game and more interesting.
For everyone.
Surely you can't deny that.
If BOB got me nailed I can always tell myself the had an advantage I didnt, even tho its not true XD
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[883]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that.
If there`s a bug in your killboards, how can we be certain that your loses is 100% genuin? I call that lack of reliability.
Dev
It is a bug of representing, which is not affecting to the content of the killmail. Nice try, no candy for you tho. --
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:23:00 -
[884]
Originally by: ponieus this is just a phase all peeps that have ever come up agianst All of BoB accuse the same thing..
its ok..
your seat number is 175460 and here is your "Welcome to the FanClub" manual..
I was in Fountain the summer of 2003 when EVOL were under contract to take the region over for their clients.
It failed, but the Fountain Alliance was born from it.
I've fought against them, and on a couple occasions with them, for a long time, under different names.
I don't need to join a club.
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:23:00 -
[885]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: KSUDruid What is your freaking problem dude? Now you're threatening Dev's that are (supposedly, lol) in BoB? Are you really that insecure that you want to take on the creators of this game?
Originally by: Reddari NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
See it this time?
You just threatened to expose Dev's in-game characters in public. Are you really so dense as to claim that use of things like IRC and Teamspeak (out of game communication?) means the Dev's like us more and give us more information?
They make their livelyhood from this game, I'm as critical of them as anyone when stuff doesn't go my way, but listen to yourself man! Do you really understand what you just said? Dunno about you, but I have a job, and like to get paid. I'm betting the Dev's are the same.
Listen to yourself.. You've totally lost it..
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:24:00 -
[886]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
And again proving BOBs rise to sainthood as the most baffling ever.
Their constant out of game espionage has been happening since 2002 (yes.. before release).
As for John, he is responsible for his own words. I don't even have access to those forums myself nor do I have a reason to.
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
It is not honorable, and its pretty ****ty for themselves but they chose their bed. Out of game open season? You don't want that if you want them to keep playing with you.
NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
Put it back in the holster or bleed.
Wow really?! BOB Devs! You should Ö that buddy, oh and this is you.
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:25:00 -
[887]
:P
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:27:00 -
[888]
haha, nice pic. You should make it a link before Abdalion pwns it. --
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:28:00 -
[889]
Originally by: KSUDruid You just threatened to expose Dev's in-game characters in public. Are you really so dense as to claim that use of things like IRC and Teamspeak (out of game communication?) means the Dev's like us more and give us more information?
They make their livelyhood from this game
No.
I'm trying to get you to understand that this is a two-way street, a double-edged sword.
Their livelyhoods aren't in danger. It would just mean they would have to abandon their characters and create new ones. They got free accounts anyways.
I don't think they have given you any special advantages either. Read my post again and see that mentioned.
I don't intend to do this, I have kept quiet for several years and I can keep quiet for several more, and I intended to.
This is about out of game knowledge seeping into the game environment.
Among your out of game secrets are these names.
Shout about others private affairs and don't be offended when your secrets are shouted back.
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:29:00 -
[890]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
:P
LOL
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:33:00 -
[891]
I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
It makes me sad to see that kind of thing. It ruins the gaming experience for everyone logged into Eve by sinking to that levle guys.
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[892]
welcome to the world of 'anything goes in POS warfare'
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[893]
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[894]
oops, sorry, that post wasn't supposed to happen. Can't seem to edit it though :/ Bah.
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:42:00 -
[895]
Originally by: Reddari I'm trying to get you to understand that this is a two-way street, a double-edged sword.
Their livelyhoods aren't in danger. It would just mean they would have to abandon their characters and create new ones. They got free accounts anyways.
I don't think they have given you any special advantages either. Read my post again and see that mentioned.
I don't intend to do this, I have kept quiet for several years and I can keep quiet for several more, and I intended to.
This is about out of game knowledge seeping into the game environment.
Among your out of game secrets are these names.
Absolutely not. There's no '2-way street' about it. You publicly THREATENED to expose Dev's in BoB's real characters. Your accounts should be isntantly banned IMHO. How can you sit there and say anything with a straight face when you'd be that two faced.
I have met a fair portion of members in this alliance Face to Face, including our Fleet Commanders, CEO's, and Directors.. I've seen pictures from get-togethers in other countries we've had out of game and *gasp* none of them look like Oveur, t20, TomB, or Hellmar.
Even the semblance though, that another player in this game, would threaten to expose Dev's character for political gain of his own is absolutely unnaceptable.
Originally by: Reddari Shout about others private affairs and don't be offended when your secrets are shouted back.
My private affairs are just that.. Mine. This includes things like where I work, where I live, and what I choose to do with my free time, such as playing video games. I would think most people in this game would subscribe to that though. That you would even consider violating the line between Real-Life and In-Game frankly makes me want to puke.
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
Wulfgard
Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:43:00 -
[896]
Originally by: CamMan Edited by: CamMan on 30/09/2006 00:11:39
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Wow its hard to express how disappointing this is turning out to be so far.
I was really looking forward to this all week but if GQ2 turns out to be a taste of things to come then its all over already.
We can never again jump into a hostile camp and I doubt that Bob will so it will just be a race to blob up a system and then sit there.
We lost more ships than can appear on Bobs KB most of whom did not load, did not know they had even manage to jump into the system. I was sat on TS and people had to check the Bob KB to see if there were dead or not or what had happened.
We expected some lag but its just impossible to have any meaningful fleet actions in this game as it stands.
CCP you need to state now what the servers are capable of and we can try to come to some kind of understanding re engagements in this "war" because this, well this is just pointless.
BoB did jump into a gang in 2I- from GQ2 tonight, and it did crash the node :(
The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the majority ASCN pilots that werent carrying BM's
edit: Just to satisfy Fitz Chivalry, there were 4 killmails that had BMs in the cargo hold form that small engagement. There was also this statement that was taken from local chat "Amior > if BoB comes in guys - pull out all ur drones so it cause them lag."
PS. No disrespect to ASCN, I am sure this is just a vast minority of people doing the wrong thing.
Ohh this is a very sad post...
Concerning the BMs you found in some of the cargo hold of some ASCN members, I can give a quick answer: I was part of the gang that jumped in GQ2, crashed and died as we tried to relog to your gate camps. A lot of our gang members had no safe spots for the previous system and so we asked some of our pilots to make a few copies for the people who didn't have a safe BM. What happened is we got a rush of blood to our head and decided to jump thru before waiting any longer (the safe bms were never distributed).
But I guess I am waisting my time typing here. We are ASCN, we are the vile exploiters, ebils, dishonorable and many others titles that I am too tired to recollect. I guess you are coming to wipe us out in order to restore what's right and just in this part of the galaxie? Hmm... What do they feed you at the BoB Cantina?
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:44:00 -
[897]
Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
Congratulations, You are the first person in 3 years (my entire eve-time) to make it into my sig. Its never happened before! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you |
Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:45:00 -
[898]
By Jove, I can't resist, this must be what it feels like for the forum warriors!
And again!
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:46:00 -
[899]
Edited by: pershphanie on 30/09/2006 00:45:56
Originally by: Afonso Henriques Edited by: Afonso Henriques on 30/09/2006 00:38:49 I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
Apparently it is ok as long as you later deny it and call it propaganda when someone directly quotes ascn corp leadership.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:46:00 -
[900]
Mmm wheres the old forum wars gone? The ones about killboards and kd ratios and who is backstabbing who - and alts popping all over and getting whacked.
This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
- Gob
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