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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[481]
I wonder if BoB will roll out the motherships.
FREEE is Recruiting |

Trinity Faetal
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[482]
<sarcasm>
bob is gonna play the "let's blob them" game again >D shame on you you have like so much more members then ascn.. booo
</sarcasm>

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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:24:00 -
[483]
Does this mean no Christmas cards this year?
Looking foward to the fun fights. Lets all hope the server can cope.
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Ekon Bor
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:27:00 -
[484]
Yay for fights that i dont have to travel 60 or so jumps for \0/ I'm happy to be +12 GMT , and hopefully get into some good lagfree pew pew
Does this color make me look fat?- Tirg |

DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:27:00 -
[485]
A reply to Steel Rat and everyone else who doesn't understand the whole 'lag tactics' issue, and I will say this with as much sincerity and little vitriol as I humanly can.
Not once in the history of EVE Online have the servers supported all out warfare between the two largest forces. Not once. If you disagree, feel free to give me any date since May 5th 2003, I will give you two corp/alliance names that would cause the server to melt.
Improvements have been made, but they have just barely kept up with the steadily increasing growth of the game. The moment 50v50 becomes possible, everyone starts forming gangs of 100. Don't you think Kali will bring better performance as well as new customers?
It may be acceptable for you to wait, but we won't. Did you read the latest blog? There won't be any changes to POS warfare in Kali 1 whatsoever. That means waiting what.. another year until the next installment of Kali? The first one took two years alone.
This alliance was built for one purpose only: War.
The moment we put our weapons down, we become like everyone else. That is unacceptable. Like it or hate it, but we're doing you and EVE a huge favour by not making any further concessions. Enough is ENOUGH. At some point I'd like to stop throwing my fifteen bucks at CCP with the words "I hope". They will work hard to make it playable, or risk losing customers. Simple.
You've known Molle for how long now, Steel Rat? If you say you didn't know this already, I wouldn't believe you for a second.
Yes, every person on the face of this planet can predict there will be lag. There is lag with every fight. There are nodes being crashed even with NO fight. If the node goes down because you were fighting for your home, so be it. I wouldn't expect any less in fact. BoB leaders chose ASCN because they knew you would at least attempt a fight while other alliances simply use it as justification for their defeat.
The difference is, and this is crucial.. your leader has managed to go against everything ASCN and BoB (supposedly) stand for by disrespecting the game with deliberate attacks on the server's stability. This is NOT THE SAME as warping a fleet into our fleet and trying to have a fight or trying to defend your home. This is him suggesting they sit at POS doing nothing but dropping a bunch of crap. Drones and cans deployed from within a force field have zero combat relevance. Its not a part of any strategy of warfare that has ever existed in this game.
Since CYVOK made that blog, there has been numerous individual interpretations of what he "actually meant". Nothing but damage control, and if you believe our reading comprehension is that low you've managed to disrespect the enemy far more than him. Regarding us.. some people in BoB are laughing at this. Why not? CYVOK just contradicted two years worth of "honor" preaching. Others are genuinely dissapointed, because they believed the image/reputation of ASCN as an alliance that doesn't do these things. Most are shaking their heads.
The truth is I don't see ASCN doing these suggested "tactics" on a massive scale. But we both know that out of 5000 people it will be done simply because he okayed it. So we are condemning your leader for sending such a wholeheartedly stupid message.. not because there will be lag, or you will be causing it.. but because he is arrogant enough to think it will help him protect his empire.
CYVOK is a visionary, no doubt about it. He's been forming this 0.0 empire of his for a long time now,. He knew one day someone would come to challenge it. He took extra care to ensure the right attitudes were formed for his members.
Then at the eve of this Great Southern War, he forgets to keep his own fears in check and fumbles. Does he deserve leeway? Sure, given the amount he's done for ASCN. But jesus christ if he says stuff like that ever again.. impeach.
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:28:00 -
[486]
I vote we call this war "The DigitalColunist Bruised Ego War"
(God if someone stuck a pin in THAT ego the universe woudl explode.)
Anyway it will be nice to see what happens when Bob attacks someone thats not in 7 other wars.
Let the Blob commence *sees about packing a bag for a journey to delve for some ratting*
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Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:30:00 -
[487]
Good luck all, hope we're invited at some stage 
Best Regards
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:31:00 -
[488]
Finally!
I have been waiting for this, lets have some fun.... finally
I have very little doubt ASCN will retain all our space and all our stations once this is all over, if that is the case when hostilities end, I will claim Victory for ASCN. If we also hold stations in Bob space I will claim a resounding victory :)
What will it take for Bob to claim victory ?
I am just asking so we dont have to have another 30+ page thread discussing it afterwards :)
/Gil
Dont get mad - Get even |

Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:31:00 -
[489]
LOL. I've just spent the better part of 30minutes reading this thread from about page 10 to now. I've never actually seen so much kiddie smack (from both sides).
To those of you who are suggesting that we intend to crash nodes yada yada, we're not. It might not have been put across well, it may have sounded bad the way it was phrased "sending out 300 fighters should crash the node". That sounds out of order right? However, the phrase "Sending out 300 fighters WILL crash the node". That sounds fine to me. I think every person who read this as a friendly automatically changed the "should" to "will" in their heads without even thinking about it, thinking "Hey its probs gonna happen whether we like it or not", whereas our enemies read it as "should" and immediately got on the ole high horse shouting "ZOMG THEY IS GONNA CRASH TEH N0DE HAXXORZZZZ!!!!!1111". I'll also point out that CYVOK's grammar is bad. BAD. So if something has been interpretted one way by us and another way by you then we apologise, it was not meant like that. I personally want as much enjoyment as I can get out of this, hopefully CCP can enforce a few nodes coupled with some spread out warfare and we can have some fun. However, if lag becomes that big an issue that nodes crash, then unless you see us flying intys with shuttles containing BM's, then its most likely that its the current state of the server. But dont forget. You're attacking us at a time when the server state is dodgy at best, so dont blame us for wanting to defend our territory with any ship we can get in the sky.
I'll finish by saying that this is just my personal opinion and take on what i've read up to this point. Please dont flame me 
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee! 
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:35:00 -
[490]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Yes, every person on the face of this planet can predict there will be lag. There is lag with every fight. There are nodes being crashed even with NO fight. If the node goes down because you were fighting for your home, so be it. I wouldn't expect any less in fact. BoB leaders chose ASCN because they knew you would at least attempt a fight while other alliances simply use it as justification for their defeat.
The difference is, and this is crucial.. your leader has managed to go against everything ASCN and BoB (supposedly) stand for by disrespecting the game with deliberate attacks on the server's stability. This is NOT THE SAME as warping a fleet into our fleet and trying to have a fight or trying to defend your home. This is him suggesting they sit at POS doing nothing but dropping a bunch of crap. Drones and cans deployed from within a force field have zero combat relevance. Its not a part of any strategy of warfare that has ever existed in this game.
Since CYVOK made that blog, there has been numerous individual interpretations of what he "actually meant". Nothing but damage control, and if you believe our reading comprehension is that low you've managed to disrespect the enemy far more than him. Regarding us.. some people in BoB are laughing at this. Why not? CYVOK just contradicted two years worth of "honor" preaching. Others are genuinely dissapointed, because they believed the image/reputation of ASCN as an alliance that doesn't do these things. Most are shaking their heads.
QFT
... if people can't understand the point Digi is trying to convey then they are beyond help.
Instead of trying to help alleviate the servers problems, Cyvok's reply in these forums and his blog demonstrate quite clearly that if things aren't going his way the servers are gonna die...
And thats very sad.
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EL TITAN
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:35:00 -
[491]
i vote for someone to answer my question :(
what did cyvok/ascn decide to name their titan? I hope its a good name, or maybe im just too into caring about it ;x _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:36:00 -
[492]
no, it's not EL TITAN in case you were hoping ;)
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee! 
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:36:00 -
[493]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Then at the eve of this Great Southern War, he forgets to keep his own fears in check and fumbles. Does he deserve leeway? Sure, given the amount he's done for ASCN. But jesus christ if he says stuff like that ever again.. impeach.
Never!
I'd follow CYVOK even if he *cough* joined Burn Eden, went to Jita to smartbomb noobs or even joined BOB!
As for this "tactic", mentioned a month ago in relation to a different opponent who has used login exploits, bookmark exploits and other unsavory methods, I can only see it be used if we are down to 1 station (out of 20 or so? I can't keep track) and we are all in noob ships.
¼+¼ a history |

Grainsalt
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:43:00 -
[494]
Now this is why I play EVE. Finally, a fight worth fighting for. In a few months I won't be able to play as much as I like, this is what is gonna crown my game, a big a*s southern war, Fantastic. Thank You and good luck to all.
Respect.
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For T2 Tinfoil Hats, contact Grainsalt ingame.
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Hackett
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:45:00 -
[495]
Well - at least the forum seem more lively at last.
Luv all the posts asking what we are going to do. You know the the answer - it involves the sea... ;)
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Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
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Dark Destiny
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:45:00 -
[496]
Just don't roll over and die on us before we get there. Only thing you can be sure of in life is that you will die. |

MECHcore
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:46:00 -
[497]
ASCN give those bastids hell :)
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:47:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Grainsalt Now this is why I play EVE. Finally, a fight worth fighting for. In a few months I won't be able to play as much as I like, this is what is gonna crown my game, a big a*s southern war, Fantastic. Thank You and good luck to all.
Respect.
Me too. First kid on the way. tbh i dont even know how much i will get to play Eve once he/she is born which is why I'm looking forward to this so much. Its a chance to fight in one of the greatest battles that have/may ever happen. But the trolls, whiners and general ****ers are spoiling it for me. :'(
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee! 
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Calderio
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:50:00 -
[499]
may the blood flow red, i intend on gorging myself with it, this is gonna be a fun war. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RIP Kevin Wessel, Age 20, Departed April 19 2005, Baghdad |

Retnik
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:50:00 -
[500]
LOL propaganda FTL. Anyways I am looking forward to some good fights with you BOB. Keep the smack down please, really it is not needed. If all you can do is be forum warriors that is fine, but you are better then that.
So in short don't sing it, bring it.
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Planek
Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:01:00 -
[501]
and it begins. Hope we have good and respectable fights.
remember to fraps everything!!!! we gotta make a good video after the fights.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:03:00 -
[502]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
If you disagree, feel free to give me any date since May 5th 2003, I will give you two corp/alliance names that would cause the server to melt.
May 6th 2003 December 25th 2003 January 18th 2004 April 1st 2004 November 26th 2004 Febuary 31st 2005 July 19th 2005 Febuary 21st 2006 September 28th 2006
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crocmore
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:08:00 -
[503]
in before 20th page  -------------------------------------------------------
In the name of God, impure souls of the living dead shall be banished into damnation |

Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:08:00 -
[504]
Gl eve servers
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Crux Australis
Legionari
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:09:00 -
[505]
Originally by: Randay Febuary 31st 2005
I am *really* interested in this one !

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Relyen
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:15:00 -
[506]
The Great Southern War begins soon....
I've watched the BoB video's, heard about your skills, and yet I've never known a single member of your alliance. Regardless, I've developed a huge amount of respect for BoB and the reputation it's achieved as the best PvP alliance in EVE.
It was watching one of your video's that got my into PvP.
Win or Lose, fighting in combat is the only true way to learn. So, fighting against BoB in combat will be one of the best combat learning experiences I will ever get in EVE. I can't wait to meet you in space.
But since I have my faith in ASCN & AXE. I believe that the sleeping giant will finally awaken. Relyen Dalamar Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Empire |

Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:18:00 -
[507]
BoB attack us? nice, more targets.
HF and GL to both sides :-) ----------------------------------
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:18:00 -
[508]
This should make for some good reading.
WTB New Nodes ------------------------
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LodeArm
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:19:00 -
[509]
Best get some beers in then.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:25:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Randay
May 6th 2003 December 25th 2003 January 18th 2004 April 1st 2004 November 26th 2004 Febuary 31st 2005 July 19th 2005 Febuary 21st 2006 September 28th 2006

haha. <3 Outbreak.
Good luck ASCN, this is going to be a hell of a fight.
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