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Valora
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:37:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Valora on 28/09/2006 15:37:25 yaRr
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:37:00 -
[2]
The whole of EvE is eagerly awaiting Kali, no one dares risk anything, no one wants to invest in the "wrong" campaigns. Scalpels are being used instead of broadswords, and the broadswords are getting rusty. Today, we sharpen ours, to shine all the way.
No more.
As of today, the whole of BoB goes into full war mode.
"The pendulum, with brazen din, Proclaims the midnight; we begin To call to mind, ironically, What uses we have made of this Dead day that drops to the abyss: TodayùO, date prophetical, Friday, twentynine, in somber folly Maugre the truth our heart maintains, We, seeing still the light that sains, Have walked in ways heretical." **
The Pendulum is about to swing. It begins.
**Examination at Midnight (L'Examen de Minuit) Clark Ashton Smith
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dimensionZ
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:38:00 -
[3]
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:38:00 -
[4]
Edited by: ponieus on 28/09/2006 15:39:32 yarR --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:38:00 -
[5]
w00t i'm in a bob thread .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:39:00 -
[6]
Woot Finally !
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Red Lantern
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:39:00 -
[7]
Locked and loaded
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Zeus
Amarr Evolution
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:40:00 -
[8]
Oh no
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Kazim
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:40:00 -
[9]
Oh don't mind me boys n girls, I just wanted to brake the chain of bob replys
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:41:00 -
[10]
Yarr - Here we go...
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myggan
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:41:00 -
[11]
have fun our enemys
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Poizonous Lizard
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:41:00 -
[12]
Woot, page 1!
\o/
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Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:42:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Zhaine on 28/09/2006 15:44:55 2nd!
Second non-BoB that is.
And Edit: Cool post, sounds like fun (and lag) is gonna be had. - - - - - - - - - -
Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
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hangovur
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:42:00 -
[14]
WOOT!!
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:42:00 -
[15]
lets play
>: ) |
OriaZ
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:42:00 -
[16]
\o/ The time has come !
Black Nova Corp French Wing BOB Caldari Alliance Championship Winners |
AvanCade
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[17]
YARRRRRR
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Darcuese on 28/09/2006 15:43:24 Finaly some (de)constructive action -------------------------------------------- Space available for advertising atm |
Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[19]
Rawrrrrrrrrr DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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N2IHC
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[20]
Let the fun begin. Yarr!!
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[21]
The magnet awaits.
¼+¼ a history |
Al Haquis
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:43:00 -
[22]
B-Boy time.
With love from Al Haquis
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:44:00 -
[23]
YARRR!!
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Ordep
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:44:00 -
[24]
Let¦s PARTYYYYYYYYYYY
Made in Portugal
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:46:00 -
[25]
bob who ?
JOIN cooolest channel in game "wierchas fan club" be cool ^^ |
Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:47:00 -
[26]
Can i come? ill be good --------------------------
AHH the Stupid forum DELETED(!) all my mod chat in my sig when i added this image :( |
Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:47:00 -
[27]
/me brings the milk'n'cookies.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Vily
Lilium Venture Initiative
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:47:00 -
[28]
So who is attacking who? BOB are like soooooo crazy. Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily |
WiZZyWiGG
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:47:00 -
[29]
Mmmmm War
Can't wait ____________
BNC makes me feel Naughty |
Lianhaun
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:48:00 -
[30]
I¦m so excited and I just cant hide it.
*boogies*
YEAH BABY I CAN FINALLY SHOOT NON BOB
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Rasitiln
Minmatar SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:48:00 -
[31]
There is no pendulum. --------
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:50:00 -
[32]
been awhile since the last molle announcement.
give the universe hell guys.
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:51:00 -
[33]
If I replace the word 'broadsword' with 'blob' and 'sharpen ours' with 'cause lag', then suddenly this post becomes far less cryptic.
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Raoul Endymion
Gallente x13 Barracudas.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:51:00 -
[34]
lets hope they're gonna go make a dent in CYVOK's ego...erhm...i mean, his big new shiny ship :p
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James Damar
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:52:00 -
[35]
Oh god the server is gonna crash becaues of this ain't it :'(
Good luck to BoB, good luck to who ever they end up focusing on and let's all have some fun
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Abdalion
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:52:00 -
[36]
Stop spamming. ___
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Lefevre
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:52:00 -
[37]
Interesting times ahead
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Robet Katrix
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:53:00 -
[38]
DAMN.
(hides in fear)
wonder who is getting the um.... broadswing?
please sir? can i have some more?
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:55:00 -
[39]
Edited by: End Yourself on 28/09/2006 15:56:15 grmml i want back on page one!!!
good luck and may many hobbits die.
edit: YAY, cheers abdalion, edited/deleted me back on page 1
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Abdalion
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:55:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Amthrianius Deleting posts just so you could be on the first page Abdalion!
I know your game!
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Incinate
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:57:00 -
[41]
i'm in a bob thread!
Gl to both sides
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CYVOK
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:59:00 -
[42]
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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etheris
Gallente eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:59:00 -
[43]
Do Broadswords broadswing or do they swingbroadly?
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Schneiderr
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:59:00 -
[44]
sorry guys, took the wrong bookmark
anyways, have fun |
ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:59:00 -
[45]
I guess Yarr isnt allowed even though its our war cry..
but lets have some fun..
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 15:59:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Incinate i'm in a bob thread!
Gl to both sides
Both?
Im sure you mean All ---------------
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:00:00 -
[47]
Good luck too ya and have fun all.
P.S. Lets have some nice and smack free fights
Don't be a great man just be a man |
SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:00:00 -
[48]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:00:00 -
[49]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
ROFL im like shaking in my boots. Reality check m8 *wink*
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:01:00 -
[50]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
No need to start a flame war. I expect much better from the heads of the best know alliances in the game.
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Robet Katrix
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:01:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Robet Katrix on 28/09/2006 16:03:10 the target is revealed!!! i knew that mc thread and this one were linked !!!! incredible ! fantastic ! unbelievable !
Quote: No need to start a flame war. I expect much better from the heads of the best know alliances in the game.
are you JOKING!!! BRING IT ON!!! molle vs. cyvok, somebody better be selling tickets
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Axis Mikels
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:01:00 -
[52]
its kill bobbet time.. yar bring your best.
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Justice forHungary
Amarr Wings of Turul Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:02:00 -
[53]
I realy like your style .
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:03:00 -
[54]
Think i'm going to spend my afternoon sitting and watching the flaming that will undoubtedly come from this thread.
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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nickky01
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:03:00 -
[55]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
i lol'd at that, then lol'd again at sirmolle's reply...FINALLY these forums are heating up again
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Suladriel
Caldari Penguinista.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:03:00 -
[56]
And so, it begins ..... /kosh voice
Oh, and, I'm in a BoB thread!
-------------- .___. {O,o} /)__) -"-"- O RLY?
I'm not famous, nor infamous.
Your bio looks much better in colour, and I haxed this sig. --Jorauk |
MacDuncan
Minmatar Unknown Society
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:03:00 -
[57]
Edited by: MacDuncan on 28/09/2006 16:04:52 /me sits back in deepest empire and grabs popcorn...beer anyone...:-)
HF all together!! --
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Poizonous Lizard
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:05:00 -
[58]
Well well well,
War, yar and many kabooms to follow.
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:05:00 -
[59]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Ok you got me, I give up. You snugglie wabbit :)
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Galimiy Portret
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:05:00 -
[60]
Surrounded by enemies... We will fight to the last isk and carbon atom available.
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Frools
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:05:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Chip2k3 Think i'm going to spend my afternoon sitting and watching the flaming that will undoubtedly come from this thread.
me too, these forums have been really boring recently
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Nepereta
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:06:00 -
[62]
finally. Wanted to fight you people for a long time. My only advice to the HC of both sides is consult GMs with regard to theatres we need full strength Jita nodes or Eve is gonna crash.
Originally by: CC 3 Cybok and lacky's REVENGE WILL BE SWEAT ILL BE BACK
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:06:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Frools
Originally by: Chip2k3 Think i'm going to spend my afternoon sitting and watching the flaming that will undoubtedly come from this thread.
me too, these forums have been really boring recently
And I thought I might actually get some work done today...
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DETOVI
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:06:00 -
[64]
Wow look at all the new fancy siggys!
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:07:00 -
[65]
Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:07:00 -
[66]
the cheese is old and molley, and your spoon is dull and rusty :)
So...if all of BOB's going on a roadtrip to azn, who's going to protect the peon's? I think BOB's going to be loosing alot of peon's as the flood of people go into BOB's space killing anything found.
Anyways, GL with the Campaign BOB....and GL to ASCN/AXE/POS.
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
Idaeus
Gallente Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:07:00 -
[67]
Yay! Christmas came early this year. I love you guys, this is the bestest present ever.
Mmm.. bloodbath.
+IOI? |
Fendragun
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:07:00 -
[68]
hey cyvok, when we have you on the ropes you wont have me and chowdown offering you an easy way out this time.
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:07:00 -
[69]
i guess the market value of hobbit corpses will drop pretty low in the near future..
gl hf guys
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:08:00 -
[70]
Good luck to old enemies in BoB, except DTee, you get no good luck =P. Have fun everyone.
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Karl Shade
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:09:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
Mine?
-
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Incinate
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:10:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Incinate i'm in a bob thread!
Gl to both sides
Both?
Im sure you mean All
Gl to all sides
Better?
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BadManEdmundo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:11:00 -
[73]
Edited by: BadManEdmundo on 28/09/2006 16:11:55
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
Step out of the way?
*Chuckles* __________________
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Yucali
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:12:00 -
[74]
you guys couldn't even destroy the goonies, im sure ASCN is wetting themselfs ^.^
gl to all, I hope you all kill each other
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:12:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
complex whoring,
what else?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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XiZ0r
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:12:00 -
[76]
war
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wizzard66
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:12:00 -
[77]
Yeah war!! Finally :-)
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Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:13:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Waut on 28/09/2006 16:13:29 Can't you guys wait one more week? I'll be on a trip for a few days and I want to see who draws first blood
In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:13:00 -
[79]
Lucky ASCN tbh :( BoB drops good loot.
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:14:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could LAG nicely in the south,
you seem to have made a typo hans, I fixed it for yah
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
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Stockarian
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:14:00 -
[81]
Should be most amusing.
Athelas Loraiel > "This isn't a fleet, we're only the appetizer."
Cheers, Stock
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etheris
Gallente eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:14:00 -
[82]
*throws mud at Hans*
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:15:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
And what about the traditional anti-BoB alliances/corporations? Do you think the north is going to watch all of this from afar?
____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships |
Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:15:00 -
[84]
Originally by: BadManEdmundo Edited by: BadManEdmundo on 28/09/2006 16:11:55
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
Step out of the way?
*Chuckles*
I must admit I would dodge SirMolle's pendulous swinger too.
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CYVOK
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:16:00 -
[85]
Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 16:16:25
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
I was attempting to be funny. See you on field.
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FraXy
Caldari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:17:00 -
[86]
I quit the game.
Anyone want my gear mail me at "[email protected]".
This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:17:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
And what about the traditional anti-BoB alliances/corporations? Do you think the north is going to watch all of this from afar?
Erm well having 'been there' then yeah I reckon so, hopefully not as the game needs to break free of stalemates and also it drums up business for us.
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Robet Katrix
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:17:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Robet Katrix on 28/09/2006 16:18:12
Quote: I was attempting to be funny.
cyvok you need to work on your comedian skills at least get sarcasm to lvl 4!
im totally psyched now. hell im ex-ascn and i still think the bobbits vs. the hibbots is gonna be so awesome
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:18:00 -
[89]
How self important can the op be?
Let us know when you actually do something.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:18:00 -
[90]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 16:16:25
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
I was attempting to be funny. See you on field.
I wasn't, I was being honest.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:19:00 -
[91]
This will be intresting . Going for the hobbits, best of luck. Going for us, burn in hell .
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Vily
Lilium Venture Initiative
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:21:00 -
[92]
can anyone say titan envy? ------------------------ Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily |
Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:27:00 -
[93]
So what Molle is saying is.... BOB has some Vasoline and Rubber Gloves and some Rectums are about to attended too.
/emote Backs his rear end against a wall
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nickky01
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:28:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could LAG nicely in the south,
you seem to have made a typo hans, I fixed it for yah
BoB + ASCN + AXE + POS = 8836 people
i really do look forward to fighting...but i'm already dreading the lag :( might as well save money and just not buy ammo
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:28:00 -
[95]
bye bye bob then
♥
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:29:00 -
[96]
Before anyone else beats me to it...
There are no hobbits.
Goodbye.
FREEE is Recruiting |
Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:29:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Lianhaun Damn, i haven¦t played much lately. I actually caught myself thinking if i should buy more clothes so i have something special to wear.
I suck at life
LoL hiya hun ! Was thinking just the same, i should really buy new shoes for this occasion. Seeing as i might actually undock now *\o/*
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Lianhaun
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:30:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: Lianhaun Damn, i haven¦t played much lately. I actually caught myself thinking if i should buy more clothes so i have something special to wear.
I suck at life
LoL hiya hun ! Was thinking just the same, i should really buy new shoes for this occasion. Seeing as i might actually undock now *\o/*
Yeah shoes are alreayd on the agenda actually. They are killer shoes so fitting to pvp in I guess. Now I need to find a killer outfit to go with it, I did see some nice skirts.
BTW we need to chat sometime, I have a surprise and hot gossip for you
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OhMyGodess
Caldari Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:30:00 -
[99]
according to bob killboard target is "Avatar"
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TitusFlamininus
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:31:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Shrike
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
May I quote you on that later?
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:31:00 -
[101]
That time of the year again, may the heat of the forum warm up the cold season.
- Gob
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Al Haquis
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:31:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Lianhaun Damn, i haven¦t played much lately. I actually caught myself thinking if i should buy more clothes so i have something special to wear.
If you think im holding your shopping bags in ACSN space then your dead wrong Woman, now remember to pew pew the other people.
With love from Al Haquis
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Lianhaun
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:32:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Al Haquis
Originally by: Lianhaun Damn, i haven¦t played much lately. I actually caught myself thinking if i should buy more clothes so i have something special to wear.
If you think im holding your shopping bags in ACSN space then your dead wrong Woman, now remember to pew pew the other people.
With love from Al Haquis
You flew an indy, ask Molle how I feel about indies.
You had it coming, if your a good boy and hold my ammo i might target the red people instead of the blue and purple ones.
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:32:00 -
[104]
Originally by: The Armin Good luck to old enemies in BoB, except DTee, you get no good luck =P. Have fun everyone.
Now thats not nice :( Why you gota play like that? Why not love for me? I would wish you goodluck after all.
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Hawkings SJ
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:33:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: DHB WildCat Gee didnt see that this coming...... Anyways good luck to both sides. The really interesting part is how big this is going to get. I cant wait!!!!
Guessing sides..... ASCN / AXE / POS / Celes
BoB / FIX / AAA / D2 /
and who knows what MC is doing.... I can never tell. (maybe seleene) hehe
Okay looking foward to killing both sides have fun!
DHB WildCat
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
Well, what about coordinating with them just enough so that your alliances fleets don't happen to all attack the same region of ASCN/AXE space at the same time? Then you wouldn't have to officially ally with them, but the effect to ASCN/AXE would be the same, right?
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CelticKnight
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:34:00 -
[106]
So it has finally begun? Suspense was starting to kill me, well as you said. Locked and loaded,
By the end of this the eve-online cluster will be a smouldering ruin with a few hundred devs crying over the smoking remains.
This will change the course of eve forever imo.
Lets ROCK AND ROLL! Im dont have a sig. |
Rick Thwaites
The Clearwater Society THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:34:00 -
[107]
Excellent post.
<3 to Hectic.
Have fun, boys! -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected])
Not the first time I have been told I am too big... |
liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:34:00 -
[108]
Edited by: liquidism on 28/09/2006 16:33:45
Originally by: Shrike
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
word. wont happen, ever.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:35:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: DHB WildCat Gee didnt see that this coming...... Anyways good luck to both sides. The really interesting part is how big this is going to get. I cant wait!!!!
Guessing sides..... ASCN / AXE / POS / Celes
BoB / FIX / AAA / D2 /
and who knows what MC is doing.... I can never tell. (maybe seleene) hehe
Okay looking foward to killing both sides have fun!
DHB WildCat
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
Well, what about coordinating with them just enough so that your alliances fleets don't happen to all attack the same region of ASCN/AXE space at the same time? Then you wouldn't have to officially ally with them, but the effect to ASCN/AXE would be the same, right?
Tinfoil ftw.
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Al Haquis
Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:35:00 -
[110]
Kryztal !!!!!!
She is beeing mean to me.
With love from Al Haquis
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:35:00 -
[111]
I'm a BoB thread \o/
Good luck Molle... and damn I hope that pendulum doesn't hit us
-[23] Member-
Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON! |
Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:35:00 -
[112]
if we kill same people it doesn't mean we ally.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:36:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: DHB WildCat Gee didnt see that this coming...... Anyways good luck to both sides. The really interesting part is how big this is going to get. I cant wait!!!!
Guessing sides..... ASCN / AXE / POS / Celes
BoB / FIX / AAA / D2 /
and who knows what MC is doing.... I can never tell. (maybe seleene) hehe
Okay looking foward to killing both sides have fun!
DHB WildCat
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
Well, what about coordinating with them just enough so that your alliances fleets don't happen to all attack the same region of ASCN/AXE space at the same time? Then you wouldn't have to officially ally with them, but the effect to ASCN/AXE would be the same, right?
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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DeadDuck
Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:37:00 -
[114]
Good luck to everyone involved, my heart will be with ASCN tbh.
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The Anointed
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:37:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Lianhaun
Yeah shoes are alreayd on the agenda actually. They are killer shoes so fitting to pvp in I guess. Now I need to find a killer outfit to go with it, I did see some nice skirts.
Everyone knows naked pvp is the only way forward.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:39:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 28/09/2006 16:39:13 Kryztal:
"LoL hiya hun ! Was thinking just the same, i should really buy new shoes for this occasion. Seeing as i might actually undock now *\o/*"
i thought u islandic ppl hunt down animals and use fur to make shoes? :P
lookin forward to some good fights, and i guess both sides hope that the lag wont be killer n1. now you and us can show eve that wars can b won without dirty tricks. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:39:00 -
[117]
Okay its seems BoB is going to try this solo....... hope you enjoy the butt kicking that will ensue. -A- has a better chance at it than BoB does 8(.
/me waits for -A- / ASCN war
DHB WildCat
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:40:00 -
[118]
*Comment* Propoganda is what makes these forums so cool :)
*Personal Interest* If BOB is going to attack ASCN it would be interesting to see.
*Fact* ASCN/Ax's (despite the split of the 2 alliances there still as 1) leadership/stability/economy is something that really has stood the test of time. So has BOBs.
*Speculation - Biased* However what I suspect will happen is allot of the completelty new corps that joined ASCN/Axion will either buck up or they will leave thus droping the alliance count of ASCN or AX and then when BOB gets bored declare a victory that they made <insert figure> alts leave an alliance they never even cared about :)
Now before the next BOB member flames me for something i write to prove me wrong or make them selfs look big, ive added little titles to say what items in what context...
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TrippyX
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:42:00 -
[119]
Edited by: TrippyX on 28/09/2006 16:42:43 Bring it on!! ill be waiting for ya'll
just renewed subscription so time for some fun!! ------------ 'Primarch, Progenitor - To your glory, and the glory of Him on Earth.' |
Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:42:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Al Haquis Kryztal !!!!!!
She is beeing mean to me.
With love from Al Haquis
Oh quit being a panzy and take your abuse like a man. You know you like it anyway.
:p
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Mauxir
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:43:00 -
[121]
Bold I love you.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:44:00 -
[122]
I... I... I love you to Maux
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:44:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Baun How self important can the op be?
Let us know when you actually do something.
Mate, leave the trolling for page 5 at least yeah
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Corey Grim
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:45:00 -
[124]
Nice post molle, lets see how many alliances actually join the fighting and wich sides.
Its spring time so lot of wars in eve spring/winter time allways. thats only good thing coz its only medicine for my sringtime depression.
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eeski
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:46:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Manfred Sideous So what Molle is saying is.... BOB has some Vasoline and Rubber Gloves and some Rectums are about to attended too.
/emote Backs his rear end against a wall
lol best quote so far
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Mael Duakal
Gallente Interlunium Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:47:00 -
[126]
Good luck to ASCN and allies.
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Gussler
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:47:00 -
[127]
BoB, D2, AAA... and who ever else you guys might have organised with to come and try take us on. Can you please not keep logging out so that we can actually have some realistic fights based on tactics? This logging out crap has to stop, im sure the devs did not intend Eve battles to be, who can be the fastest 'loggers' would be the winners. Also please limit any lag tactics please.
/rant off
Good luck BoB and Co, bring only your best, I expect nothing less of you.
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Aertuun
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:47:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: DHB WildCat Guessing sides.....
ASCN / AXE / POS / Celes
BoB / FIX / AAA / D2 /
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
Well, considering the MC thread just TWELVE HOURS AGO on this forum (BoB: "BoB offensive? What BoB offensive?") don't be surprised if the EVE community is slightly sceptical about that
Good luck to all concerned!
Good hunting to ASCN.
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:48:00 -
[129]
Well, thats not really an official announcement but,
why should we work with BoB?
We dont need bandwaggons to be cool
From Dusk till Dawn
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Lucas Smaise
x13 Barracudas.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:49:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Lucas Smaise on 28/09/2006 16:49:45 Can we get a list with who is on which side?
Lucas Smaise
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:50:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Nafri Well, thats not really an official announcement but,
why should we work with BoB?
We dont need bandwaggons to be cool
Yeah, you're uncool regardless!
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:51:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Nafri Well, thats not really an official announcement but,
why should we work with BoB?
We dont need bandwaggons to be cool
Yeah, you're uncool regardless!
my mom said Im cool, do you want to say that my mom is lying?
From Dusk till Dawn
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:51:00 -
[133]
the wheels are in motion now.
Good luck gents and we will meet on the fields of battle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Lucas Smaise Edited by: Lucas Smaise on 28/09/2006 16:49:45 Can we get a list with who is on which side?
Lucas Smaise
simple
BoB v. ASCN/AXE and whatever lil ones tag along iwth them. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Nafri Well, thats not really an official announcement but,
why should we work with BoB?
We dont need bandwaggons to be cool
Yeah, you're uncool regardless!
my mom said Im cool, do you want to say that my mom is lying?
No, your mom also THINKS your cool. But she doesnt know the rest of the Eve community so shes naturally biased to you!
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Pr1at Bunny
Caldari adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could escalate nicely in the south, wonder what AAA and LV will do.....................
And what about the traditional anti-BoB alliances/corporations? Do you think the north is going to watch all of this from afar?
Yes they are , really tell me what are they gonna do against them ?
If i see how some stuff goes within Razor ... yeh look deffo like a thick team ____________________
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The Anointed
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[137]
Just out of interest, having read a few things about kali, and sir molle mentioning it in his post.
Is the reason your attacking now that in the future (dependant on speculation) with all the upcoming additions such as limited gate control, starbase defences etc, that ASCN would be able to turn their home systems into an iron curtain?
Or is this your way of unveiling your titan/s?
To be honest, its what eve needs justnow, alliance situation was stale for a little while imo.
Good luck to both sides.
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eeski
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[138]
CCP please can we have this live on EVETV
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M4sterm1nd
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:52:00 -
[139]
Ugh... war... Again.
I mean : "Oh YIPPY! War for a change!" grumble.
Why is it that in any population with a male constituency, some of them will always feel the need to wave a particular bodypart around?
War does not determine who is right, people, only who is left. Nothing good can come of war but the ending of it. The only winner in the war of 1812 was Tchaikovsky. Fight fire, with fire, and all you get is ashes. He who taketh up the sword shall perish by the sword. Think ye that evil can be overcome by evil or violence by violence? the way of peace requireth courage and patience, but it will prevail.
And to BoB : he that chops the tallest tree, may find himself beneath it. |
Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:53:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Hast the wheels are in motion now.
Good luck gents and we will meet on the fields of battle
Omee : Thug what's our evil plan?
EvilThug : 1. Steal Hast's Panties - 2. abuse him
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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CelticKnight
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:53:00 -
[141]
the AAA vs ASCN&AXE has been going on for MONTHS. All this means is another party is going to join in the celebration and give us more targets to kill Im dont have a sig. |
Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:53:00 -
[142]
Originally by: DeadDuck Good luck to everyone involved, my heart will be with ASCN tbh.
Screw that, I'm hoping they both nuke each other into oblivion in a massive orgy of mutually assured destruction.
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:53:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Lucas Smaise Edited by: Lucas Smaise on 28/09/2006 16:49:45 Can we get a list with who is on which side?
Lucas Smaise
ascn/axe/pos vs. bob
and we will kill whatever we see in space, regardless of alliance ticker.
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:54:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Hast the wheels are in motion now.
Good luck gents and we will meet on the fields of battle
Omee : Thug what's our evil plan?
EvilThug : 1. Steal Hast's Panties - 2. abuse him
That is soooooooo wrong
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:55:00 -
[145]
Originally by: liquidism Edited by: liquidism on 28/09/2006 16:33:45
Originally by: Shrike
The day we ally AAA and D2 is the day BoB doesnt exist anymore.
word. wont happen, ever.
word.
Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE. |
PMolkenthin
Psykotic Dreams Barracudas.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:55:00 -
[146]
Cool. I hope everyone dies.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:56:00 -
[147]
aslong as evil thug and omeega tries to steal my panties we wont be allies
and that wont stop anytime soon
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Alberta
Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:57:00 -
[148]
Originally by: The Anointed Just out of interest, having read a few things about kali, and sir molle mentioning it in his post.
Is the reason your attacking now that in the future (dependant on speculation) with all the upcoming additions such as limited gate control, starbase defences etc, that ASCN would be able to turn their home systems into an iron curtain?
Or is this your way of unveiling your titan/s?
To be honest, its what eve needs justnow, alliance situation was stale for a little while imo.
Good luck to both sides.
There's nothing particularly unusual about the timing of this compared to the timing of past major operations.
Let's get out there and have some fun! Hope I can manage to squeeze some decent game time in for the first time in ages.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:00:00 -
[149]
Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 28/09/2006 16:59:04
Originally by: Gussler BoB, D2, AAA... and who ever else you guys might have organised with to come and try take us on. Can you please not keep logging out so that we can actually have some realistic fights based on tactics? This logging out crap has to stop, im sure the devs did not intend Eve battles to be, who can be the fastest 'loggers' would be the winners. Also please limit any lag tactics please.
/rant off
Good luck BoB and Co, bring only your best, I expect nothing less of you.
Bit hard to limit lag tactics when YOUR leaders approve and encourage them :/ but never mind me. Goodluck to everyone and ASCN. I cant wait to pew pew you. I have respect for you guys and like the fact that you fight.
yeah something about 300 frigs and 300 fighters.. hmm sound familer..
I cant wait to pew pew some ships..
agian gl to both sides we about to have the time of our lives.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:03:00 -
[150]
Xmas has come early . Thank you Uncle Bob, its just what I wanted.
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:04:00 -
[151]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
♥ Cyvok ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |
Naldo
Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:05:00 -
[152]
I thought I would pop my head in to say cool.
That is all.
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:06:00 -
[153]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 16:16:25
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
I was attempting to be funny. See you on field.
I wasn't, I was being honest.
Yay internet, eh?
I hope you guys lose. It would be great to see such a massive tool comment being thrown back into your face. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:07:00 -
[154]
hope gms help ya with nodes, gl all sides involved and hope to c fraps with titan in action :D
imho the winner will be the side that get more allies...
TDG Recruitment |
Spartac0
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:09:00 -
[155]
can't wait for some oldschool fun tbh GL eve :P
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:09:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Hast aslong as evil thug and omeega tries to steal my panties we wont be allies
and that wont stop anytime soon
I once ate an entire red candle.
If you're trying to quote Brick Tamland the line is "I ate a big red candle". kthx
Thank you for that note, I'll be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:10:00 -
[157]
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Anderson Wes
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:10:00 -
[158]
Here's to a good clean fight, guys. Remember, this is all a game so let's have some fun. While I can't wish BoB 'luck' seeing that I'm rooting for our side, I will hope that you guys will have as much fun as I will.
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Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:10:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Xmas has come early . Thank you Uncle Bob, its just what I wanted.
This is my first Christmas in EvE...and to think, it's coming early.
You guys realize we're going to make CCP work over-time with this epic war, which will ultimately delay the release of Kali, right? /Crosses fingers and hopes it's not true.
Best of luck to all those involved.
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Low Blow
Amarr Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:12:00 -
[160]
"only the dead have seen the end of the war" |
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:13:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Chip2k3
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Hast aslong as evil thug and omeega tries to steal my panties we wont be allies
and that wont stop anytime soon
I once ate an entire red candle.
If you're trying to quote Brick Tamland the line is "I ate a big red candle". kthx
Thank you for that note, I'll be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
I LOL'ED
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:17:00 -
[162]
Predictions....
Well, taking systems is particularly difficult, and these days seems to only happen due to mistakes.
BoB and ASCN will be dropping POSs down in their station systems to either lock down sovereignty where there's few enough moons to do so, or ensure that the other side can't easily drop a few POSs and nick it.
BoB has few corps, mainly high SP players, who tend to be relatively passive when there's not much going on, but active when there's a big fight. Biggest risk for BoB is their players get bored of it and don't log on much.
ASCN is a different kettle of fish, plenty of corps in ASCN, some of whom may not be pleased with the ASCN leadership - it's a natural thing for alliances with big amounts of corps. Some corps may leave. Some of the players in ASCN may be financially drained, and unable to continue.
With the lag the way it is, and blob combat the way it is, I think we'll see plenty of forming up, plenty of camping, but not 24/7 shooting. As to who is going to win? Well, I'd imagine BoB have plans for who they are going to install into ASCN space, they've shown they want to conquer 0.0 by installing entities as dominions. Perhaps these will be formed of ex-ASCN people if BoB make big territorial gains.
On the other hand, if the masses of ASCN are led properly then BoB simply will not have the numbers to compete, and they will start to lose stations, ASCN is large enough to extend into BoB space, and perhaps assimilate all of it.
Conversely, it could all end up being one big standoff, the fight moving from system to system, but very little territory switching hands.
My prediction is the stalemate.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:17:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Sir Erighan
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Xmas has come early . Thank you Uncle Bob, its just what I wanted.
This is my first Christmas in EvE...and to think, it's coming early.
You guys realize we're going to make CCP work over-time with this epic war, which will ultimately delay the release of Kali, right? /Crosses fingers and hopes it's not true.
Best of luck to all those involved.
Who cares about kali if there is "player created/driven content" going to deliver tons of fun?!?
And btw i highly doubt CCP would mind some further dragon code stress testing.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:18:00 -
[164]
I find myself reading this thread and thinking " Who gives a F#$k, GAME ON".
When we die God's job is to judge us..........My job is to arrange that meeting
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:19:00 -
[165]
.... at long last we got a Molle post
This is gonna be the mother of all conflicts, and this time if there is a clear loser its gonna hurt a lot....never before have so many assets been deployed in 0.0 space.
My only hope is that both entities follow through to the end..... servers withstanding.
@ Cyvok - what on earth where you thinking when you made your standings announcement post? Seems like ASCN have been attending the Orc A school of diplomacy..... It made it look like you wanted this conflict to start and that your intention was to get the ball rolling.
The deja-vu here is almost unbearable. (Xetic anybody?)
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Methos
Caldari DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:20:00 -
[166]
What you have already phased yourself out? BoB sohuldnt be to mad that ASCN HAS a titan. I could swear I heard that you already have 2. BoB is just mad ours is bigger than thiers But I think we all are looking forward to the chaos.
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DirtyHarry
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:21:00 -
[167]
wowzers a real war at last, GL BoB give em hell
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papaPadla
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:21:00 -
[168]
I guess that the last patch was all about putting BOB's balls back in game... i know was removed some time ago. But i was expecting: "Nice titan... well take it" saying u declare war is no fun. -------------------------------------
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:22:00 -
[169]
Well this explains the standing orders to quote "Watch ROCKY IV, Over and over and over again." from Cyvok.
This thread is surprisingly lacking major mud by the primary parties involved.
Theres a lot of enthusiasm on both sides, I'm hoping to get a lot of good clean fights out of this.
It's just a game folks, so lets enjoy the spectacle of it.
Bob I look forward to fighting you, you may be overwhelming but at least your honost. There will be a blitzkreig and a defense the likes of which EVE has never seen, I can't wait.
As far as my Fellow ASCN pilots, hold your heads up high and don't be goaded. The mightiest force in EVE has decided that we are worth killing, we've accomplished much to make it that way.
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dj lightning
Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:24:00 -
[170]
TBH who cares ?
Its not just going to be BOB vs ASCN i know who we will be attacking.
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Frools
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:25:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Gierling
This thread is surprisingly lacking major mud by the primary parties involved.
cos this forum has been boring and nobody wants the most entertaining thread in months to be locked
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:27:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Nez Perces .... at long last we got a Molle post
This is gonna be the mother of all conflicts, and this time if there is a clear loser its gonna hurt a lot....never before have so many assets been deployed in 0.0 space.
My only hope is that both entities follow through to the end..... servers withstanding.
@ Cyvok - what on earth where you thinking when you made your standings announcement post? Seems like ASCN have been attending the Orc A school of diplomacy..... It made it look like you wanted this conflict to start and that your intention was to get the ball rolling.
The deja-vu here is almost unbearable. (Xetic anybody?)
Yeah this reminds me of the beginning of xetic/.5 war. That's okay I'm not going to be queing up in feyth everyday day to die now. I'm going to grab some popcorn and a tinfoil hat and enjoy the next couple of weeks.
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Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:28:00 -
[173]
Yarrr, phun will come to us.
/me asks HC if we should set northeners to blue that they feel comfort before they hop on the bandwagon...
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Lacero Callrisian
Minmatar Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:31:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Frools
Originally by: Gierling
This thread is surprisingly lacking major mud by the primary parties involved.
cos this forum has been boring and nobody wants the most entertaining thread in months to be locked
And there's no more alts to screw things up :)
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MOS DEF
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:32:00 -
[175]
Originally by: eeski CCP please can we have this live on EVETV
All the dying nodes would be too embarrassing.
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Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:32:00 -
[176]
Awesome videos with lots of explosion, cool music and awesome effects please.
Thanks in advance.
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Wrok
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:34:00 -
[177]
i love it when sir molle speaks all shady and sneaky like...
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TWD
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:34:00 -
[178]
Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
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2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
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As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above.
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Tabaldak
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:35:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Tabaldak on 28/09/2006 17:35:59 Oh please. bob starts the spin already.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:36:00 -
[180]
Originally by: TWD As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above.
.... this cant be for real... if it is, oh dear.. /emote shakes head
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:37:00 -
[181]
Seems that BoB finally heard that ASCN systems have good spawns.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:37:00 -
[182]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Baun How self important can the op be?
Let us know when you actually do something.
Mate, leave the trolling for page 5 at least yeah
Did you expect anythign less from Celes , honestly ?
/me waits welsh wizard flaming post "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:37:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Tabaldak Edited by: Tabaldak on 28/09/2006 17:35:59 Oh please. bob starts the spin already.
So you're saying that we made that up ? .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Garramon
Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:38:00 -
[184]
Oh snap! For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious. |
Guard'in
Caldari Trade Consortium Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:38:00 -
[185]
Official NON-Official Center Placement Title Header Image
Anybody else realise when the Pendulum swings it comes back? For that matter in Space a Pendulum assuming it can't make a full 360 degree swing, will come back with the same force as when it left it's starting position.
Official NON-Official Conundrum-Like Poem
-Carry On
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Cmd Woodlouse
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:39:00 -
[186]
Yay, no more tshirts me guesses.
Good choice. --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:40:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Liet Traep Yeah this reminds me of the beginning of xetic/.5 war. That's okay I'm not going to be queing up in feyth everyday day to die now. I'm going to grab some popcorn and a tinfoil hat and enjoy the next couple of weeks.
C'mon down Liet, I will still lose more ships than you this time round as well
(luckily I have 130 Ares in Esa to keep me going, cheap ships 4tw) :)
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:40:00 -
[188]
I thought, it was peace for our time...
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Slender Brenda
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:41:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Yay, no more tshirts me guesses.
Good choice.
WTF woody in solidline ... did you sold your char or did unfo use his charms on you?
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:41:00 -
[190]
Originally by: TWD Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
-----------
2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
....
As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above.
Cyvok: It's one GM, two GMs... Exploit as much as you want but please please please leave the poor apostrophe alone!
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:42:00 -
[191]
Why a partial quotation? Quote the whole thing TWD. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:42:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Tabaldak Edited by: Tabaldak on 28/09/2006 17:35:59 Oh please. bob starts the spin already.
So you're saying that we made that up ?
tbh to early to bring it out, wait till the thread slows down before you post stuff like taht, that way when people read the first and last page they feel informed by something new.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:43:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Daald Why a partial quotation? Quote the whole thing TWD.
seperate documents cant be quoted together?
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:44:00 -
[194]
Wow it's already been kicked up a notch by the posting of private message boards.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:45:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Daald Why a partial quotation? Quote the whole thing TWD.
.. so you admit its a real document? what could the rest of it possibly say that would make it better?
If that document is genuine.. then ASCN just guaranteed a place in the history books as the moral equivalent of Burn Eden.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:45:00 -
[196]
Quote:
seperate documents cant be quoted together?
That's an extract from Cyvok, 8/21/06 post. "The winds of change" section. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
Lianhaun
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:49:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Rolled Wow it's already been kicked up a notch by the posting of private message boards.
Thank you for validation. Please come again.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:49:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Guard'in Official NON-Official Center Placement Title Header Image
Anybody else realise when the Pendulum swings it comes back? For that matter in Space a Pendulum assuming it can't make a full 360 degree swing, will come back with the same force as when it left it's starting position.
Official NON-Official Conundrum-Like Poem
-Carry On
We're well aware of what it means, are you smart enough to work out what it means for you?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:50:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Daald
Quote:
.. so you admit .. If that document is genuine.. then ASCN just guaranteed a place in the history books
See, that changes the context.
You chopped my sentence up and changed the order, thats re-writing not changing the context....
K.. so you say that TWD quoted out of context, the onus is now on ASCN to defend itself with the full document.
Present the full document so that we can see how badly you were misquoted.
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:50:00 -
[200]
Interesting....
Lets try to have some good fights and remember this is a game so means nothing outside of the eve world. I see endless spams on posts like this spewing hate and bile....i do wonder why. i was even privy to a private convo between some of the conspirtors of this little 'event' frankly the pure concentrated hatred towards something that is in a game made me actualy chuckle as it showed serious issues in reallife with inability to differentiate eve and RL.
Its like football (UK) people have killed one another in real life cos so and so's teams have beaten x y and Z. when asked why these hooligans do it, the moment just took them that is why, they see the absurdity of the action only when the redmist is gone.....
I would like to remind all that this is just a game and to leave the crazy childish smacktalk at the door cos we arnt really interested in the fact some people have issues and cannot see their real lives turning to **** day on day while their eve char gets dread skills :)
Have fun and kill much but dont forget that after all...... its just a game and means nothing in the grand scheme that is your own personal precious life. eve is entertainment not a career or lifestyle. (if you think it is then you have issues)
peace out .... war in
CEO Pyrex
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:52:00 -
[201]
Edited by: DTee on 28/09/2006 17:53:35
Originally by: GrumpE I know BoB doesn't like to play defense, but why would they be leaving home at this time? Don't they have to protect their capital shipyard building their Titan?
We are building a titan? I thought we already had 5
btw to the guy up there. Tbh this has been a pretty calm thread compared to threads like this in the past. I doubt anyone hates anyone or is spewing ANYTHING.
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Tabaldak
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:52:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Lianhaun
Originally by: Rolled Wow it's already been kicked up a notch by the posting of private message boards.
Thank you for validation. Please come again.
Misquoted: - To quote erroneously or incorrectly
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:52:00 -
[203]
YARR BBQ is on what more can u hope for after 4 month away from game.
looking forward to some hopefully epic battles.
cya out there all of u
*snip* Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty |
HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:53:00 -
[204]
"Let the rain pour down from God above With the blood of my blade, no love, begin the flood Open the gates, let the battle begin, wherein With wind at our backs, ready for any attacks Sound the horns, prepare for war, begin the storm!"
>>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<< |
Khayman33
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:53:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Stamm Predictions....
Well, taking systems is particularly difficult, and these days seems to only happen due to mistakes.
BoB and ASCN will be dropping POSs down in their station systems to either lock down sovereignty where there's few enough moons to do so, or ensure that the other side can't easily drop a few POSs and nick it.
BoB has few corps, mainly high SP players, who tend to be relatively passive when there's not much going on, but active when there's a big fight. Biggest risk for BoB is their players get bored of it and don't log on much.
ASCN is a different kettle of fish, plenty of corps in ASCN, some of whom may not be pleased with the ASCN leadership - it's a natural thing for alliances with big amounts of corps. Some corps may leave. Some of the players in ASCN may be financially drained, and unable to continue.
With the lag the way it is, and blob combat the way it is, I think we'll see plenty of forming up, plenty of camping, but not 24/7 shooting. As to who is going to win? Well, I'd imagine BoB have plans for who they are going to install into ASCN space, they've shown they want to conquer 0.0 by installing entities as dominions. Perhaps these will be formed of ex-ASCN people if BoB make big territorial gains.
On the other hand, if the masses of ASCN are led properly then BoB simply will not have the numbers to compete, and they will start to lose stations, ASCN is large enough to extend into BoB space, and perhaps assimilate all of it.
Conversely, it could all end up being one big standoff, the fight moving from system to system, but very little territory switching hands.
My prediction is the stalemate.
You forget to include all bandwagon alliances which is a determinant part depend of their effectiveness
Gl&Hf for all and please make cry CCP ;)
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Tessa Vaako
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:54:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Present the full document so that we can see how badly you were misquoted.
While it's not my place to post the full document. I'll say that that document was written in response to an expected AAA invasion. As such it contained the expected tactics that we would see from AAA and how we could respond to them. It has NO bearing on the current situation. -- The Future is Exciting.
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:54:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Daald
Quote:
seperate documents cant be quoted together?
That's an extract from Cyvok, 8/21/06 post. "The winds of change" section.
no, the first lines are from the most recent post, the second part is being sarcastic about -A- (or as i think they still were at the time, seperate entities thereof)
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Basilii
Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:55:00 -
[208]
wtb ticket .
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Elisca Black
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:56:00 -
[209]
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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:58:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Lianhaun
Thank you for validation. Please come again.
Your funny. TWD said he quoting CYVOK's words. I didn't.
The horse goes infront of the cart.
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:59:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Liet Traep Yeah this reminds me of the beginning of xetic/.5 war. That's okay I'm not going to be queing up in feyth everyday day to die now. I'm going to grab some popcorn and a tinfoil hat and enjoy the next couple of weeks.
C'mon down Liet, I will still lose more ships than you this time round as well
(luckily I have 130 Ares in Esa to keep me going, cheap ships 4tw) :)
Fitz, I'm already down. I was chasing some of your hobbit kin down in esoteria earlier. :) Good luck with the fighting.
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:00:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Evelyn Exe on 28/09/2006 18:01:36 meh I am not getting into the smack with you guys, you are masters.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:02:00 -
[213]
The Winds of Change
As we look at the Universe of EvE today we find ourselves in an ever increasing environment of hostility and Evil.
Our Foes are not the honorable combat pilots of BoB, the5, or the MC who do not need sploits and cheats to win on the battle field. Our Foes are some of the most dishonorable and worst players in the history of online gamming.
They fight to expand their ability to gain and sell ISK & Loot out of game. They fight to prove to the universe that they are better then YOU, because they can get away with anything.
They donÆt care about EvE as a game or the Community of Players that built this game from day 1 into what it is today. They only care about what they can get out of it for their selfish selves.
They donÆt want to Play Eve to win it, they just want to take advantage of what others have built.
In combat today we are faced with: 1) MASSIVE log in traps -100 or more members of the same organization that all just happen to log in at the same time in the same system and cause so much lag and CTD that the defender has almost no chance at survival. Their Excuse ôWe just all decided to play at the same timeö (and the GMÆs buy it)
2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
4) SUPER DEEP space ôsafespotsö or sploitspots -Although ôfixedö several patches ago and making new ones declared an exploit it is NEEVR enforced. Using deep space probes almost anyone that has a bit of creativity can create off grid safe spots 200-300 even 400 AU from anything, effectively making them completely invincible to defending forces. They can place an infinite amount of supplies at these locations with near 100% certainty that they will never be compromised. The Excuse ôSince you can make them using in-game tools its totally legalö
5) LOG OFF, log on alt -Need to save your ship during combat or Lag, easy. Log of your main and immediately log on another character that is on that same account. Poof, the main disappears regardless of PvP ôsa***uardsö. Or better yet, do it as soon as you jump through a gate and you never appear on the other side. BUT, when you log back in you are on the other side, do it with 100 of your friends, and BAM, instant log on trap on the other side of the gate and the defensive force NEVER even got to shoot you. Even though this has been deemed and Exploit, it happens all the damn time today. The Excuse: ôWe canÆt prove thatÆs what happened, maybe they CTD when they jumpedö ûSee also #1 The universe of EvE today is slowly being taken over by thugs. Not the thugs that enjoy combat and honorable gamming but those that only care about ruining the game for as many others as possible.
As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above. Until CCP posts publicly that these are Exploits and publicly states they will start enforcing bans against their users, I say **** Um. If ASCN comes under attack and we have 600 players crash the server maybe CCP will finally realize the scope of the problem that have. The good players of EvE do not deserve to get their asses handed to them in every battle because we refuse to break the rules when our enemies have been getting away with it for years, and now the use of such ôtacticsö are becoming epidemic.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:07:00 -
[214]
This was posted on "Monday 21 August 2006" in regards to sploits by other entities. ASCN would never use these tactics against BOB and others who do not use them. However BOB seem less honorable themselves misquoting and spying to get the quote in the first place...... the fact that bob leaders openly posted spied blogs shows they are not worthy of the admiration they seem to have.
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Hydraxian
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:07:00 -
[215]
Cyvok & ASCN Ftw
Good Hunting and good luck
Signature hijacks ftw
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Alpine 69
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:08:00 -
[216]
looks like there are "Interesting" times ahead....
lets lock n load.
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Kurieg
Universal Manufacturing Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:08:00 -
[217]
And CYVOK is right on that score. Every single player-conflict driven MMOG creator needs to understand that a professional officiating crew is *required* for good player competition. It's ultimately a stupid strategy to rely on player's to both fight AND officiate themselves.
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:09:00 -
[218]
Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song. ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
Galimiy Portret
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:09:00 -
[219]
Originally by: TWD Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö...
*snip* (some text placed totally out of context) *snip*
... call them I have just listed above.
OMG. I thought BoB was better than this.
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Son
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:11:00 -
[220]
That's not good, that's the best notice I've never read from EvE-O.
War, war never changes, war is our life, war is my fun. Have fun & enjoy, I'll do. Thank you.
Originally by: "Frools" We will fight to the last isk and carbon atom available.
/signed, I don't have better words to say the same.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:12:00 -
[221]
Lag fest 06.
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:12:00 -
[222]
That's one heck of a blatant misquote, then.
Stupidly done, of course, since it is so easy to debunk. And spying on private forums doesn't exactly show the honor someone vying for the moral highground should have, either. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
rmfHathor
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:13:00 -
[223]
Why did TWD venture that sleazy attempt at misinformation knowing full well that all it would take is the posting of the full document to make him look like a bad?
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SkaffenAmtiskaw
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Darko1107 Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song.
The video rocks too.
Oh, and ASCN, I really wouldn't get all high and mighty about forum spying - it goes both ways. ______
'A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc.' - Wrangler on m0o corp. |
Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Darko1107 Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song.
QFT .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
[226]
Should be good fun, and to re-itterate what Fit'Zeh said may the fights be good, and may the lag monster be ever un-present or at least sleeping at the right times.
Catch ya in space ASCN.
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03! |
Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:15:00 -
[227]
I think i just did a sex wee in my pants.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:15:00 -
[228]
where the hell is DB Preacher anyway? He used to post a lot it seems O.o
Originally by: Xrak Lag fest 06.
Way better name than GSW, LF06? sounds like two 0.0 systems to me.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:18:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs I think i just did a sex wee in my pants.
Dobbs, we need to find you some professional help.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:19:00 -
[230]
Forum Spying is one thing, But lying and misquoting to the EVE public is another.. I spy on ASCN, but i at least want the truth to be told, not a spin on it for my benefit.
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Grihmstein
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:19:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Grihmstein on 28/09/2006 18:20:38
You can tell I dont use these boards a lot. Stupid thing posted with my market search alt. Reposting with default below.
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
[232]
Edited by: DTee on 28/09/2006 18:22:21 For crying out loud. The ASCN screaming bloody murder about mis-quoting :/ Just give it a rest. Everyone seen the most recent document by now. So the damage control you are TRYING to do doesn't work. Please post the full document that the first part of the quote was taken from.
All is fair in love and war (within the game rules) in reference to spying intelligence etc. I'm sure everyone has a spy everywhere. So lets just get it on have a nice clean fight and have fun. without crying like little girls.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Farham on 28/09/2006 18:21:42
Quote: Oh, and ASCN, I really wouldn't get all high and mighty about forum spying - it goes both ways.
The difference is ASCN isn't trying to make a respectable foe like BOB look bad by posting partial snippets of a statement that has nothing to do with this conflict.
Not only that but with the original post here now with the full context, TWD just really made your honorable alliance look a little petty.
Either way, good luck, I have plenty of ships for you to come kill.
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Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
[234]
That's one hell of a misquote TWD. What's wrong? BoB spin is usually to a much higher standard than this. CYVOK was even paying your alliance some very nice compliments that got edited out
CAPTAIN THUNK
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
Ria Sotori
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:22:00 -
[235]
So many hobbits... I need more ammo :D
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:25:00 -
[236]
How i wish i was involved.. if any of my old ASCN chum(p)s read this, good luck, god speed..
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
Maruk Ihnati
Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:25:00 -
[237]
Originally by: TWD Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
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2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
....
As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above.
Thank you for taking this and putting it out of context.
The first paragraph is stating facts about eve's gameplay.
No.2 and 3, are the exploits WE have faced from a blog long ago.
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Ordo Abchao
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:27:00 -
[238]
All your base are belong to us, destruction is at hand, make your time!
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Order out of Chaos |
welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:28:00 -
[239]
Good luck ya'll!
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:29:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Maruk Ihnati
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
Thank you for taking this and putting it out of context.
The first paragraph is stating facts about eve's gameplay.
No.2 and 3, are the exploits WE have faced from a blog long ago.
So wtf is the first part of the quote about?!?
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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RogerWilco
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:30:00 -
[241]
Finally... ♥♥♥♥ u molle...
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:32:00 -
[242]
good luck to all and have fun
the only loser in this conflict will be the server as it keels over and DIES
the south is about to turn into a lag filled hell hole
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Galimiy Portret
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:33:00 -
[243]
I thought BoB were sane people... Recently, their words are full of insanity and hubris.
Remember the ancient words:
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
God forbid this destiny befalls you.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:33:00 -
[244]
*chin*
FOr a lag-less and smack-less war!
*drinks in one big gulp*
/me sells the freighters. /me buys more fighting ships.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:35:00 -
[245]
I just want to see that Titan fight stuff.
As fun as the war sounds, my fear is that it'll just further demonstrate the current server inadequacies.
Hell, I want that Titan on my killboard.
May there be many explosions!
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:35:00 -
[246]
Originally by: DTee
For crying out loud. The ASCN screaming bloody murder about mis-quoting :/ Just give it a rest. Everyone seen the most recent document by now. So the damage control you are TRYING to do doesn't work. Please post the full document that the first part of the quote was taken from.
... well seems that ASCN leadership should now come clean and categorically state that they will do their damndest to play fair and not purposefully crash nodes.
Even the original document posted by the spy alt Truth1, authorises the use of premeditated node crashing. If ASCN were prepared to do that for -AAA-/Reds, there is no telling that they will not use it for BoB, as thier opinion of BoB will have also changed since the date of the document.
ASCN leadership must publicly state their position on pre-meditated node crashing, irrespective of whom they are fighting.
Crashing nodes on purpose has to be the worst form of institutionalised exploiting, not only spoiling the game for the enemy but for your own troops and the community at large, node drops affect systems across EVE.
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:36:00 -
[247]
Could you guys share the same killboard for this? like eve-killboard.net?
We'll count the forums hits (especially below the belt, TWD scores first point) manually.
____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships |
fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:36:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Captain Thunk That's one hell of a misquote TWD. What's wrong? BoB spin is usually to a much higher standard than this. CYVOK was even paying your alliance some very nice compliments that got edited out
CAPTAIN THUNK
Your funny
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Maruk Ihnati
Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:36:00 -
[249]
Edited by: Maruk Ihnati on 28/09/2006 18:36:54
Originally by: Maruk Ihnati
So wtf is the first part of the quote about?!?
Guess its about all ascn should get out of the system so bob can have a lagfree fight...
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jeNK
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:44:00 -
[250]
Edited by: jeNK on 28/09/2006 18:44:55 WTB: Lag free cluster.
Also, it's a given that anything posted by 'spies' will be manipulated.
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:44:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: DTee
For crying out loud. The ASCN screaming bloody murder about mis-quoting :/ Just give it a rest. Everyone seen the most recent document by now. So the damage control you are TRYING to do doesn't work. Please post the full document that the first part of the quote was taken from.
... well seems that ASCN leadership should now come clean and categorically state that they will do their damndest to play fair and not purposefully crash nodes.
Get a clue. The ASCN leadership does not need to answer to you or anyone else about an internal order.
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:46:00 -
[252]
Edited by: thoth foc on 28/09/2006 18:46:23
Originally by: Bazan Kor .. about an internal order.
you actually have this?
the number of ASCN pilots we see running away and leaving their "alliance mates" to die.. i kinna assumed there wasnt much order..
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Slender Brenda
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:46:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig TWD you perfectly know that whatever happens ascn wont keep a single man back to defend its space, and since we are many, that is gonna mean lag, wheter we want it or not.
Interesting that you decided to post that weird mix of two quotes that you conveniently put out of context. Thumbs up.
Especially since you all launch drones all the time.
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Creon
Amarr Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:47:00 -
[254]
Geeeeeze.....how much more posting before the fight beginns? Good luck to all involved.
Cujo From A Former Life, Reincarnated As Creon.
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Kanae
Minmatar Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:48:00 -
[255]
In referance to lag/node comments
It would be nice if leave a ship at a pos it kindof auto-docks with the main control tower (you can undock it in reinforced mode or not).
I wont name names but I have warped in on a few pos's with litterally 100+ ships (mostly shuttles) adrift and people pop thier maintance arrays jetting 100+ ships when a dread fleet warps in.
unmanned ships need to auto-dock with control tower or something.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:48:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Creon
Geeeeeze.....how much more posting before the fight beginns? Good luck to all involved.
/tips his hat to Creon.
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Axis Mikels
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:48:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Cadiz Looks like the intel was good. Fantastic; this is just what I've been waiting for. For the last while the only PvP that has been consistenty available to us NoQ lads has been pipe camps (about as fun and satisfying as watching paint dry, bar the vox banter) and sweep gangs in Catch/Stain (in which most hostiles safespotski, logoffski, or stationdockski upon our arrival) - now we've got some real targets, rawr!
I'm damn well looking forward to this, BoB; I owe you some thanks for livening things up again. Now let's hope the servers don't buckle and snap under the brutal strain that is no doubt going to ensue. I had a hell of a time crossing swords with you gentlemen in V2 and 9CG, and I don't doubt that it's going to be a joy this time as well!
Let's rock.
I thought all you guys did was die?
no all u guys do is logoffski..
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:48:00 -
[258]
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 28/09/2006 18:46:23
Originally by: Bazan Kor .. about an internal order.
you actually have this?
the number of ASCN pilots we see running away and leaving their "alliance mates" to die.. i kinna assumed there wasnt much order..
Again you take a quote and change it to take it out of context, whats up with your alliance tonight?
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Gabba
Species 5618
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:50:00 -
[259]
"it shows that the ASCN leadership (still?) endorses sabotaging the server to further their cause" Thats not what it says, go back to the original text and read it again, its what you would call:
empirical
ûadjective 1. derived from or guided by experience or experiment. 2. depending upon experience or observation alone, without using scientific method or theory, esp. as in medicine. 3. provable or verifiable by experience or experiment.
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:53:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Bazan Kor
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 28/09/2006 18:46:23
Originally by: Bazan Kor .. about an internal order.
you actually have this?
the number of ASCN pilots we see running away and leaving their "alliance mates" to die.. i kinna assumed there wasnt much order..
Again you take a quote and change it to take it out of context, whats up with your alliance tonight?
changed? either u have issued orders internally or not.. u can hardly misquote that
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:54:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Nez Perces
... well seems that ASCN leadership should now come clean and categorically state that they will do their damndest to play fair and not purposefully crash nodes.
I don't see why ASCN leadership needs to make a public statement about an internal blog that was taken out of context. CYVOK has made clear what is and is not acceptable to ASCN.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:55:00 -
[262]
I can see the spin war is going to be fun on this one as well
Good luck, have fun and schtuff.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:56:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Crucifier I thought all you guys did was die?
No, that's just me personally. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:56:00 -
[264]
Edited by: Blacklight on 28/09/2006 18:56:56
Originally by: Geeknik I don't see why ASCN leadership needs to make a public statement about an internal blog that was taken out of context. CYVOK has made clear what is and is not acceptable to ASCN.
CYVOK's caught red handed exhorting his troops in two lengthy blog messages posted some time (4-6 weeks? I'll have to check) appart, demonstrating a consistency in policy, to lag out systems and bring the nodes down if necessary to defend their space and it is denied vigorously by ASCN members... lol.
Did he trip over and accidentally hit the keys in that order and post it by accident then? Did he suddenly lose his grip on the English language and mean something completely different when he espouses lag generating and node crashing tactics? Perhaps the mythical room full of monkeys that can recreate Shakespeare's greatest works at random also managed to access ASCN's forums and produce those blog sections at random too?! The mind boggles.
We expect you to bring all your people, it would be exceedingly niave to expect otherwise. However, we were all more than a little amused when the guy who repeatedly refer's to ASCN's honourable behaviour to his members in the very next breath advises them to use tactics to deliberately bring the server down if thats what it takes to defend their space.
Perhaps the spin war won't be such good fun if this is the best you can do
Eve Blacklight Style
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Swor
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:58:00 -
[265]
7 days war
6 days of lag and server crashes and 1 day to packup and go home frustrated
its too bad the server can't handle this war, it would have made an epic fight
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:58:00 -
[266]
TWD always a bit nubbish at smack.
Allow me to respond.
Hey Kryztal, still camera-shy? Hey Lianhaun, "back" so soon? Hey Al Haquis, you know you didn't lift a finger for Unity?
See, thats all cryptic smack but understood by each one of them! It's in fact not smack but psy-war!
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:59:00 -
[267]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 28/09/2006 18:46:23
changed? either u have issued orders internally or not.. u can hardly misquote that
Oh nice to see the roll eyes are out already. How does pilots running away in battle (which i doubt anyway) have anything to do with and internal order concerning AAA? You clip two words out of what I said and start talking about something else.
If you mean internal orders in general then i think your spies have proved we do indeed receive them from HC regularly....
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Itzena
Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:00:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Lord WarATron Thankfully, I can assume 99% of BoB Pilots are above this, and do not fall for ploys like that.
Did you forget the 'defeat' of Goonswarm so soon? Smear campaigns and spin is BoB's modus operandi - why try and win wars in-game when you can win them on the boards? -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be. |
Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:01:00 -
[269]
Would you like to borrow a JCB Blacklight? It seems to me it's the BoB leadership that are having comprehension problems. You're only reading the parts convenient to you.
Are these the last crazy actions of an alliance on the verge of implosion? It's gonna be a damn interesting next few weeks around here.
CAPTAIN THUNK
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
James Potkukelkka
BGG Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:01:00 -
[270]
Originally by: SirMolle
As of today, the whole of BoB goes into full war mode.
Bold move, especially with the current state of the server.
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Tessa Vaako
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:01:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Blacklight
CYVOK's caught red handed exhorting his troops in two lengthy blog messages posted some time (4-6 weeks? I'll have to check) appart, demonstrating a consistency in policy, to lag out systems and bring the nodes down if necessary to defend their space against enemies that would do the same to them.
There, fixed that for ya.
We'll play nice if BoB. My past experience with BoB says that there is much fun ahead.
-- The Future is Exciting.
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:05:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 28/09/2006 18:56:56
Originally by: Geeknik I don't see why ASCN leadership needs to make a public statement about an internal blog that was taken out of context. CYVOK has made clear what is and is not acceptable to ASCN.
CYVOK's caught red handed exhorting his troops in two lengthy blog messages posted some time (4-6 weeks? I'll have to check) appart, demonstrating a consistency in policy, to lag out systems and bring the nodes down if necessary to defend their space and it is denied vigorously by ASCN members... lol.
Did he trip over and accidentally hit the keys in that order and post it by accident then? Did he suddenly lose his grip on the English language and mean something completely different when he espouses lag generating and node crashing tactics? Perhaps the mythical room full of monkeys that can recreate Shakespeare's greatest works at random also managed to access ASCN's forums and produce those blog sections at random too?! The mind boggles.
We expect you to bring all your people, it would be exceedingly niave to expect otherwise. However, we were all more than a little amused when the guy who repeatedly refer's to ASCN's honourable behaviour to his members in the very next breath advises them to use tactics to deliberately bring the server down if thats what it takes to defend their space.
Perhaps the spin war won't be such good fun if this is the best you can do
I think if you really think about it the first blog can be ignored given AAA were employing these tactics against us and as you can see from the full blog they were allowed by cyvok so that ccp would sit up and actually do something about the exploiters.
The second blog, if you actually read it, all of it, and it is long, the quote comes not as an order but rather as a description about what will happen. You KNOW we'll have 300 in a POS and you KNOW we will release whatever fighters we have. Cyvok is merely saying that the node WILL crash. Were hardly going to hold back forces to stop a crash. Its not our fault. They wont be released with the intention of a crash but rather it will probably come as a result of it.
YOU KNOW THIS, stop trying to put us in a bad light so others will come and attack us as some sort of crusade against the exploiting ascn. Its petty. Why, dont you think you can take us by yourselves?
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:05:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Bazan Kor
Originally by: thoth foc
changed? either u have issued orders internally or not.. u can hardly misquote that
How does pilots running away in battle (which i doubt anyway) have anything to do with and internal order concerning AAA?
issuing orders infers internal discipline..
great having to spell stuff out already
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:05:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Blacklight
Perhaps the spin war won't be such good fun if this is the best you can do
I didn't confirm, deny or "spin" anything. I simply said I didn't see a reason for CYVOK to respond to it publicly.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:07:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Bazan Kor
Get a clue. The ASCN leadership does not need to answer to you or anyone else about an internal order.
.. oh yes they do, if ASCN want to retain any semblance of moral highground your leadership has to publicly debunk any accusations of premeditated node crashing.
Node crashing of systems would not only affect ASCN but many other EVE players too.
On the other hand ASCN leadership can play "we can't hear you la la la la la" .. and then the general public can make its own mind up.
Of you can always do a Burn Eden and profess that "you don't give a ****"
Whats it gonna be?
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Inmate 19225004
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:12:00 -
[276]
ASCN - first alliance to build a Titan.
BoB - first alliance to destroy a Titan.
Any questions?
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:13:00 -
[277]
hmm...
I hope CEO Pyrex and his guys won't hide as much this time.
Cya.
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:13:00 -
[278]
I love this thread already
Eve Blacklight Style
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:15:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Bazan Kor
Get a clue. The ASCN leadership does not need to answer to you or anyone else about an internal order.
.. oh yes they do, if ASCN want to retain any semblance of moral highground your leadership has to publicly debunk any accusations of premeditated node crashing.
Node crashing of systems would not only affect ASCN but many other EVE players too.
On the other hand ASCN leadership can play "we can't hear you la la la la la" .. and then the general public can make its own mind up.
Of you can always do a Burn Eden and profess that "you don't give a ****"
Whats it gonna be?
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:15:00 -
[280]
TWD, BOB did issue warnings through backchannels at least once that they were going to fight ASCN, So dont act like Cyvok just pulled it out of thin air. And what I hear is that BOB was going to invade and *****ed out.
BTW: If there is a AAA fleet in Esoteria, a D2 fleet in Paragon, And a BOB fleet in feyth and they purposely avoid each other, that is a Bandwaggon, allies or not.
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Doomsday Machine
Caldari Jovian Labs
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:16:00 -
[281]
Wow, this entire thread is giving me a headache. BoB yet again amazes me on how many egotistical jerks they can fit into 1 alliance. BoB, get over yourselves, youre no better than anyone else in this game, quit thinking you are.
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Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:16:00 -
[282]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Tessa Vaako
Originally by: Blacklight
CYVOK's caught red handed exhorting his troops in two lengthy blog messages posted some time (4-6 weeks? I'll have to check) appart, demonstrating a consistency in policy, to lag out systems and bring the nodes down if necessary to defend their space against enemies that would do the same to them.
There, fixed that for ya.
We'll play nice if BoB. My past experience with BoB says that there is much fun ahead.
When there is a person in your leadership that is so paranoid that he issued 3 false warnings about BoB invading, falsly talking about 50 BoB/MC capital ships in stain, sending eve mails to people in BoB falsly accusing of us having spies on their teamspeak and falsly claiming that we're allied with D2 / AAA / RA there is no telling if he starts to accuse us of using those exploits.
Interesting, perhaps you can back this up, perhaps not...point is after your previous efforts I'm not so sure anyones still listening to you
Not the only thing could be going to haunt you, have you considered that ghosts from your past of 'destroyed' alliances such as GoonSwarm may be wishing to take a part in this war - with or without ASCNs blessing?
CAPTAIN THUNK
(PS. We the public, demand the return of PB Dreacher who at least put some effort into the bob spin)
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:17:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Riddari Hey Al Haquis, you know you didn't lift a finger for Unity?
Understood by more than him, Rids, and unfortunately for you you're about as far from the truth as it can be.
Better luck next time.
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PhalHell
Minmatar Rome SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:18:00 -
[284]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
Thank you for that note, ill be pushing that statement down your throat shortly.
You two make sure not to crash EVE every hour or both of you will have a problem with me !!
The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my corps, not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary.
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:20:00 -
[285]
Originally by: TheTruth1 TWD, BOB did issue warnings through backchannels at least once that they were going to fight ASCN
Was that even needed? Is anyone honestly surprised by the turn of events? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:20:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
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Machiavelli7
Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:22:00 -
[287]
Yay Nez Percez, the Andrew Marr of Eve \o/ |
Doomsday Machine
Caldari Jovian Labs Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:22:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
Nez, youre wasting forum space with your babble, its already been established that what TWD posted was completely taken out of context. Everything youre posting is just flamebait, so stfu and go somewhere you are wanted...
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:24:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Nira Li hmm...
I hope CEO Pyrex and his guys won't hide as much this time.
Cya.
No idea who you are or why you are smacking me. its a game...... a game..... you know...not real
So you want to smack me cos i took the moral highground huh? well srry dude, i love this game but not enough to take it as serious as you seem to. sure i wil fight and die many times to bob, you guys are prolly the best eve has to offer but i fail to see why the need to insult me personally. in fact to memory i havnt met you in game or real life ever so again im at a loss unless this is an attempt at 'jive' talk lol
Lets just try to have some fun eh? and leave the stupid child speak for those that play WOW :P
CEO Pyrex Confused at the hate
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:25:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
Nez, youre wasting forum space with your babble, its already been established that what TWD posted was completely taken out of context. Everything youre posting is just flamebait, so stfu and go somewhere you are wanted...
Did you actually read any of the last 40 pages of this thread?
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Gabba
Species 5618
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:26:00 -
[291]
TWD you have made your bed, you should sleep in it. Here is another one:
obfuscate ûverb (used with object), -cated, -cating. 1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy. 2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information. 3. to darken.
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Doomsday Machine
Caldari Jovian Labs Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:26:00 -
[292]
Originally by: DTee
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
Nez, youre wasting forum space with your babble, its already been established that what TWD posted was completely taken out of context. Everything youre posting is just flamebait, so stfu and go somewhere you are wanted...
Did you actually read any of the last 40 pages of this thread?
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:26:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
Nez, youre wasting forum space with your babble, its already been established that what TWD posted was completely taken out of context. Everything youre posting is just flamebait, so stfu and go somewhere you are wanted...
No it was'nt ASCN have just vigorously denied that it meant what it really did mean. Besides what context is an excuse for telling your people to deliberately cause lag and crash nodes and then call them acceptable tactics? I fail to see an excuse for that type of exploiting behaviour. --------------
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:27:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Hast so what your saying is that you would rather sit 300 people inside a POS twiddling thumbs waiting for the node to drop rather then doing something constructive
Hi. You have reached level 1 of not so good smacktalk.
Please use words derived from "construction" for any other entity in EVE than ASCN.
Bye.
Hi. Congratulations in finally completing the course in basic insulting 101
here is your badge and diploma.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:27:00 -
[295]
cant wait to get yarin down paragon way again. the order is a privalage, SirMolle thx
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:30:00 -
[296]
alright as this is starting to become a funny rabble thread i would like to contribute something funny to it. its not meant personal by any means and plz dont feel urself aggored too much
Little known facts about BoB
1. BoB alliance doesnt sleep. BoB waits.
*cough* okàokàlets start overà
1. BoB does never fit stabs. They fit only dmg mods !
2. BoB does never tank. The sheer amout of fear ppl have when BoB jumps into a sys insta kills an outpost and all in it. So why tankin ?
3. BoB was once aggroed by a 12 year-old n00b in an ibis. The lil boy will never be the same again.
4. BoB once posted a setup on the forums to show that a typhoon is a useful pvp ship. Afterwards TomB had to nerf the whole minmatar race several times to compensate the catastrophic shift in game balance it caused.
5. BoB once filed a petition coz rats were too easy to kill. CCP released the Sansha Ultima Station 10/10 complex to keep BoB satisfied. Even if it made BoB only kill a plex in 10 secs instead of the usual 2.0587 seconds (2 secs for ammo reload).
6. BoB once announced a player gathering. Also know as ôOperation: Iraqy Freedomö
7. When a BoB member is equipped with a flash light the only way to survive against him in a 1vs1 is a 99% EM and Thermal resistance tank and 4 capital armour reps.
8. If BoB ganks someone in empire concord looks the other way.
9. If BoB members play WoW, CS:S or Battlefield 2 they donÆt do it coz they like the game. But to compensate for the insufficiency of targets during downtime.
10. BoB members actually donÆt need T2 gear and fully equipped battleships to overwhelm an empire. They just declare war and wait till the enemy hauls all their assets into their space to get instapopped once they deployed all goods at BoB corporate hangars. Its easier that way.
11. Once a BoB member smacked someone in local so hard that he, in a fully equipped dreadnought was kicked into structure and got to jump out of system.
12. When BoB is hunting enemy intruders they actually donÆt set up bubbles and sniper Bs to cover the gates. They just anchor a can saying öBOOM Headshot!ö and every one who dares to enter the sys wakes up in his clone bay.
13. If BoB post on eve online forums the isd looks the other way.
14. If BoB members use lasers they do Kinetic and Explosive dmg aswell.
15. If a BoB member scrambles u with a 1 point disruptor u need at least 7 lows full of stabs to have a 50/50 chance of escaping.
16. In the BoB language ôcarebearö means ôpreyö.
17. If a BoB player mines he donÆt uses mining lasers. He just targets the roid and waits till the minerals appear pre-refined in his hold.
18. Moving closer to a cloaked BoB covert ops wont decloak the BoB spy but will cloak u. no one was ever seen again after he vanished this way.
19. All POS passwords are overwritten by the general password ôBoBö. The POS just fear to face the consequences resulting in an access denial.
20. BoB members instantly claim sovereignty over a system by their simple presence.
21. BoB is the reason the jovians left the known universe and vanished in the mysterious unreachable outer regions of Eve.
22. Minmatar where enslaved by the amarr. But the amarr where enslaved by BoB.
23. The only reason BoB allows the gallenteans to live in a free democracy is their affectation for pimped gallentean luxury cars, spiced whine and exotic dancers.
24. Navy Issue Ships is a try of CCP to allow the rest of the non-BoB eve community to withstand an BoB attack long enuff to pay the ransom.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:30:00 -
[297]
Thank you for something to skim through at work. I am just happy some people don't change in this game.
crice
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:31:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine Wow, this entire thread is giving me a headache. BoB yet again amazes me on how many egotistical jerks they can fit into 1 alliance. BoB, get over yourselves, youre no better than anyone else in this game, quit thinking you are.
We taek pride in knowing we affect some personally like this..
chillman its a game.. you know pew pew pow pow BOOOOMMM>.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:31:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
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Doomsday Machine
Caldari Jovian Labs Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:34:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Wow, TWD posted a snipped log from ASCN's private forums and lemmings like you scream bloody murder at ASCN for pre-meditated lag expoits. I wish everyone was as gullable as you.
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Blitzkrieg
The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:34:00 -
[301]
One ship, a rather large one I might add, but is it all it takes to generate all this sudden hate from BoB?
CCP needs to add to Titan a dual bonus: "Increase forum flammage by 100% and add 25% to bagwagon per level"
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:34:00 -
[302]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Originally by: Nira Li hmm...
I hope CEO Pyrex and his guys won't hide as much this time.
Cya.
No idea who you are or why you are smacking me. its a game...... a game..... you know...not real
So you want to smack me cos i took the moral highground huh? well srry dude, i love this game but not enough to take it as serious as you seem to. sure i wil fight and die many times to bob, you guys are prolly the best eve has to offer but i fail to see why the need to insult me personally. in fact to memory i havnt met you in game or real life ever so again im at a loss unless this is an attempt at 'jive' talk lol
Lets just try to have some fun eh? and leave the stupid child speak for those that play WOW :P
CEO Pyrex Confused at the hate
Meh it's not smack =( I'm just grumpy, the Xetic war was so boring with you guys in a safe most of the time and it ruined my movie.
Cya.
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:35:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Cyvok has never condoned us doing anything that GMs have deemed an exploit.
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Trev Kachanov
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:37:00 -
[304]
finally time to burn off some war stock :)
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:39:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Grimpak
nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!", and as you know aswell forum rep isn't on our side.
we grew a bit tired after the 10000001th "omg ascn die!" thread and most of us are not surprised about whatever our enemies post in the forums.
so yeah, you could say it's a bit of "omg I can't hear you" with "I don't care with what you post"
but this is my way of seeing things. year and half in ASCN seeing dirt being thrown at us from all sides made me like that
Is that the current mindset of ASCN, I hope for your sake that its not...
not two days ago everybody and his dog was lavishing congratulations on you for being the first Alliance (at least publicly) to build a titan. Crikey even the Devs stopped by and said congratz, you were on the news etc.. and the toast of EVE.
Two days later everybody hates you?
Chronic paranoia is bad for your health..
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
considering the things we've been thru in this game, one cannot be too carefull.
experience told us in the past that what's blue now, might turn red in half hour. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:40:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Blitzkrieg One ship, a rather large one I might add, but is it all it takes to generate all this sudden hate from BoB?
CCP needs to add to Titan a dual bonus: "Increase forum flammage by 100% and add 25% to bagwagon per level"
lol
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:40:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
I was wondering who you reminded me of. It's Judge Dredd.
Awful movie btw. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
[308]
Hast, one point.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
[309]
Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:41:00 -
[310]
Riddari, serve.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Bishop 5
Gallente Perfect Order
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
[311]
fraps plz :D
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meh |
Spikum
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
[312]
Edited by: Spikum on 28/09/2006 19:43:59
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Hi Nez,
Just wanted to chip in a bit and say that it does sound like your following the tried and tested Bob propoganda line of saying something over and over again for 40 pages means its true.
Look at the facts, TWD posts something which is immediately claimed by a bunch of junior (i presume grunt level) ASCN memebers as taken totally out of context in a larger post by CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME speaking against this type of tactic.
Now for a rebuke against a forum slur it was pretty concise by all repliers about what the post actually said. So it makes me believe the post is..
1. real on the ASCN forums. 2. been partially quoted to give the forums sommit to rabble about to work as propoganda, hence why TWD bothered in the first place.
But underlaying it all you gotta think for a just a second is CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME absoultely retarded enough to post a "Rite we are all going to exploit on mass" plan on the ASCN forums which as everyone knows every man and their dog can get access too? Really? You really think what your trying to imply is the truth?
So stop banging on about it and let the smack continue on a more base level. I repeat my earlier point. Saying something repeatedly for 40 pages till the lock, doesnt make it true.
But hey, it's your friends war and your rep so you play it your way...
Best Regards,
Taurequis
/goes back to the popcorn.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
You are a biased referee. We know you want to have his babies! ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
HordeZla
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:47:00 -
[315]
too much to read in such a short time....
Have fun to the hostiles, lets keep it smack free, I have been given a global muting
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:47:00 -
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I cba reading all posts, and I am not an official spokesman of ascn, but about lag:
1. You might aswell wait for us to actually lag you out before whining on forums - when we "thought" aaa lagged us out on purpose we had the decency to wait until we got spanked before complaining about it
2. If we create lag *on purpose* you can petition us and we all get banned for violating eula.
3. It doesnt take 300 people to lag the node to death, right now systems cant stand over 100-150 people unless they are assigned their own nodes. So yes, nodes will crash - and you know it. You you decided to pull this pre-empitive forum spin tho, impressive
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:01:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
I'm getting too old for this
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:02:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
I tried, but most of them were all you BoB lackies screaming about how you are gonna pwn ASCN's face. Got lame after the 4th post...
Then it would infact be you that is wasting forum space... you didn't even read the thread in its entirety
Why don't you sit down read the thread and then post ... a lackey is one who mindlessly supports a particular side without thought or consequence.
ASCN stands accused of the basest form of exploiting: premeditated node crashing. The ball is firmly in ASCN's court....
Wow, TWD posted a snipped log from ASCN's private forums and lemmings like you scream bloody murder at ASCN for pre-meditated lag expoits. I wish everyone was as gullable as you.
Dumbest troll to bless this thread, maybe you should stop whining and read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Liet Traep on 28/09/2006 20:04:30 Edited by: Liet Traep on 28/09/2006 20:03:54
Originally by: Grimpak nez, since the downfall of xetic where EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG AND CAT AND IGUANNA throwed dirt at us we had seeing things like "omg ASCN you suck!" or "omg ASCN die!",[/quote
nah, it's just me dude. Screaming in the wilderness. This reminds me more and more like the last days of xetic. So many of the same players are in different corps and alliances now but I bet you a large number of the BoB players fought against xetic in that war then. This is going to be exciting and only happening about a year after I expected it.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:04:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Taurequis
Hi Nez,
Just wanted to chip in a bit and say that it does sound like your following the tried and tested Bob propoganda line of saying something over and over again for 40 pages means its true.
Look at the facts, TWD posts something which is immediately claimed by a bunch of junior (i presume grunt level) ASCN memebers as taken totally out of context in a larger post by CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME speaking against this type of tactic.
Now for a rebuke against a forum slur it was pretty concise by all repliers about what the post actually said. So it makes me believe the post is..
1. real on the ASCN forums. 2. been partially quoted to give the forums sommit to rabble about to work as propoganda, hence why TWD bothered in the first place.
But underlaying it all you gotta think for a just a second is CYHOWEVERYOUSPELLHISNAME absoultely retarded enough to post a "Rite we are all going to exploit on mass" plan on the ASCN forums which as everyone knows every man and their dog can get access too? Really? You really think what your trying to imply is the truth?
So stop banging on about it and let the smack continue on a more base level. I repeat my earlier point. Saying something repeatedly for 40 pages till the lock, doesnt make it true.
But hey, it's your friends war and your rep so you play it your way...
Best Regards,
Taurequis
/goes back to the popcorn.
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Originally by: Cyvok As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above. Until CCP posts publicly that these are Exploits and publicly states they will start enforcing bans against their users, I say **** Um. If ASCN comes under attack and we have 600 players crash the server maybe CCP will finally realize the scope of the problem that have. The good players of EvE do not deserve to get their asses handed to them in every battle because we refuse to break the rules when our enemies have been getting away with it for years, and now the use of such ôtacticsö are becoming epidemic.
.. this from the full version of the document posted by Truth1.
The document, whilst referring to -AAA-/Red and their supposedly dirty tactics, does authorise premeditated node crashing. The line that ASCN are peddling is that they would only use such tactics against -AAA-/Red. There are posts to that effect already in this thread.
Now... if BoB are deemed to be "bad" people there is no reason, based upon the above logic, why premeditated node crashing would not be authorised for BoB also.
I have no idea where from the ASCN forums, these posts came from, it does not matter, the fact of the matter is that Cyvok wrote them. He is the maximum authority within ASCN.
The cat is out of the bag, I'm afraid, and the onus is really on ASCN to categorically debunk it at an official level.
I think this issue is important enough to be raised again and again.
The servers are already straining under the increased playerbase, it only takes around 200 pilots to crash a system these days, particularly when POS are the backdrop to an engagement.
The mere suggestion of pre-meditated node crashes on a server that is already near breaking point is nothing short of criminal.
If ASCN, one of the foremost alliances in the game with a wealth of resources at its disposal and a huge number base to draw on feels it necessary to stoop to such levels.. what possible hope is there for EVE as a game. Instead of setting an example, ASCN would be promoting the mindset which encourages players to do anything to avoid losing.
Thats why I think this is important and why I will keep posting on this issue.
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iqplayer
Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:08:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
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*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
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The Armin
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:08:00 -
[322]
Originally by: DTee
Originally by: The Armin Good luck to old enemies in BoB, except DTee, you get no good luck =P. Have fun everyone.
Now thats not nice :( Why you gota play like that? Why not love for me? I would wish you goodluck after all.
Cause you yelled at me in local once :(
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:09:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Omeega Riddari, double-fault.
Hast, game, set and match.
I'm getting too old for this
You'll manage, we have a long way to go yet
Eve Blacklight Style
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:10:00 -
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Hello.
Lets play a game called "Spot the Hypocrisy".
Originally by: CYVOK Blog 25 Their has NEVER been a force in EvE that has successfully built an Alliance to the strength and accomplishment of ASCN. NEVER has an Alliance of Alliances been established in such a way that they act as one like that of ASCN, AXE & POS. Never has one organization been able to establish a feeling of belonging to something bigger then their own Corp like this group. NEVER has any organization ever done the above and remained honorable, honest, fair and respectful to the rest of the EvE player base.
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Originally by: CYVOK Blog 25 What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
Scream of misquotes, and preach context all you like. CYVOK's Blog is rapidly approaching the legendary status of Ragnar's Hat and the Remedial Solution.
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |
Aceformat
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:11:00 -
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I've flown with many of the DICE members while I was with VLINC in the north against what was NBSI, PA and RISK (Who are still going) not to mention all the other factions, and the majority of those people I respect. BOB on the whole I know of this fear you seem to hold over people for what reason I cannot understand but I know this much, new to ASCN I may be but I will fight for every inch of ASCN homeland, be it with the end of my pod or yours.
Flames and propoganda do not bother me, yes I've died at the hands of bob pilots and yes Ive killed some. the truth will be known in the comming weeks, months, hell years. "gf" will be the only local chatter you see from me, lets hope you act accordingly also.
GL but more importantly HF
(these are my opinions alone)
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:12:00 -
[326]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:13:40
Originally by: iqplayer
*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
I have read all threads pertaining to the 9uy UK/ISS/MC vs Assorted Pirates war, tyvm.
Whilst yes nodes in large scale conflicts will crash, it is unavoidable with the current state of the servers, using additional "tactics" (shuttles, offline modules, cramming systems full of non-combat pilots etc..) on purpose is quite another.
And that is what the quoted post from the ASCN forums alludes to, and that is what ASCN leadership need to address....
Accidental node crashing, is one thing, crashing the node intentionally to avoid losing a battle is quite another.. and there is a difference.
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:13:00 -
[327]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist CYVOK's Blog is rapidly approaching the legendary status of Ragnar's Hat and the Remedial Solution.
Hi Digi!
I see you found something, categorically not applicable in the context you portray it, which you will repeat 2140 times the next 7 days to make it so!
CONGRATS!
Oh man he is always so happy when he makes up a bone like this and gets to chew on it forever.
I remember Fountain 2003. EVOL didn't reach its claimed goal there and hasn't since then, except for Delve.
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:13:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Nez Perces
The document, whilst referring to -AAA-/Red and their supposedly dirty tactics, does authorise premeditated node crashing.
The way I read that, the node crashing mentioned here is neither intentional nor premeditated, but simply a side effect of the gameplay. However, my opinion is anything but official so I somehow doubt it will appease you.
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Cloue
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:15:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:13:40
Originally by: iqplayer
*ASCN* should *Pledge* not to purposefully crash the node? Have you read *any* of the threads from the Ushra Khan/Pirate war in 9UY?
When Bob declared a war of this scale they guaranteed that nodes would crash on a daily basis. Should ASCN hold back our fleet and get owned because *BOB* declared war, so that the nodes won't crash?
We don't have to *try* to crash the nodes, nor will we. Nodes *will* crash, because that's the current state of Eve, and we have no choice but to defend our home.
I have read all threads pertaining to the 9uy UK/ISS/MC vs Assorted Pirates war, tyvm.
Whilst yes nodes in large scale conflicts will crash, it is unavoidable with the current state of the servers, using additional "tactics" (shuttles, offline modules, cramming systems full of non-combat pilots etc..) on purpose is quite another.
And that is what the quoted post from the ASCN forums alludes to, and that is what ASCN leadership need to address....
Accidental node crashing, is one thing, crashing the node intentionally to avoid losing a battle is quite another.. and there is a difference.
Why do you care so much, how does this affect you, go back under your rock worm
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CYVOK
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:16:00 -
[330]
Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:21:00 -
[331]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
im sorry but crashing the node on purpose is just bad form.. Not only are you spoiling the fun for thousands of others that are not even in the war but you are causing GM's and others too work overtime..
CCP spends more money on overtime meaning less money for hardare upgrades and more GM's to rework the code..
SO you are saying that doing your above tatic is ok to save face but potentianly ruin the game for 10,000 or more others?
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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konkord
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:22:00 -
[332]
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
im sorry but crashing the node on purpose is just bad form.. Not only are you spoiling the fun for thousands of others that are not even in the war but you are causing GM's and others too work overtime..
CCP spends more money on overtime meaning less money for hardare upgrades and more GM's to rework the code..
SO you are saying that doing your above tatic is ok to save face but potentianly ruin the game for 10,000 or more others?
Are you saying we should let you happily take out a system because the game mechanics do not allow us to defend our space? the coin flips both sides. ----------------------
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WETRAIN
Minmatar Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:25:00 -
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LIES ITS ALL LIES! ASCN IS DEAD, XX IS DEAD and sort of .. EVE is DEAD... Lag killed it
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When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus- |
Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Coasterbrian on 28/09/2006 20:25:13 Few things:
1) It's a game.
2) This thread is funny. People take stuff waaaaaay too seriously. 3) It's a game.
4) There is not a single alliance in this game that can claim the moral highground. Not one.
5) It's a game.
6) It's about fking time you got around to attacking us, sheesh.
7) IT'S A BLOODY GAME!
That is all. ----------
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:25:00 -
[335]
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
im sorry but crashing the node on purpose is just bad form.. Not only are you spoiling the fun for thousands of others that are not even in the war but you are causing GM's and others too work overtime..
CCP spends more money on overtime meaning less money for hardare upgrades and more GM's to rework the code..
SO you are saying that doing your above tatic is ok to save face but potentianly ruin the game for 10,000 or more others?
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
How about us saying your attack is ruining the gameplay of thousands since you know it will end in a lagfest. If you're so concerned about not ruining the gameplay of thousands due to lag, you should have picked a different target.
We will defend ourselves to the fullest extent of our abilities, that will inherently cause node death, nothing we can do about that. But assuming we won't defend ourselves fully to spare others, think again. If you worry about the lag and the nodes, don't come to ASCN space.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:26:00 -
[336]
Originally by: CYVOK [ The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
I guess the answer to your question will define the moral fibre of an alliance..... I have nothing further to add.
This war may well be over before it even starts, more is the pity as it could have breathed some life into the game.
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Machiavelli7
Gallente Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:26:00 -
[337]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
Saddest statement I've read yet
Attitude like that & you deserve everything you get. Not everyone wishes to play the game like that. Faced with that particular scenario, I can think of several other alternate tactics than purposely crashing a node.
Oh, and flaming Nez 'Are you Andrew Marr in disguise?' Perces won't get you far. The fella has a skin thicker than a Minmatar c0nd0m.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:27:00 -
[338]
How quickly we all forget about EC-P8R and TRUST.
It was fair game for both sides of this to cram 600 pilots and a hundred bubbles into a system back then to make their job "faster". I warned that it set a dangerous precedent back then, and it seems I was right. EvE warfare has degraded into nothing but a laggy, blobby mess ever since.
So before you guys get too caught up in pointing figers at each other, look at your own tactics.
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:28:00 -
[339]
Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:31:23
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
So basically you're saying that if we want to fight for them we have to do so "fairly", not that we would even consider anything else but you're allowed to use every exploit in the game available to you because erm, uhm, aaaah you're the direct descendents of Jesus Christ?
And yes, crashing a node is an exploit, you are exploiting a weakness in the server/code.
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iqplayer
Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:28:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:13:40
I have read all threads pertaining to the 9uy UK/ISS/MC vs Assorted Pirates war, tyvm.
Whilst yes nodes in large scale conflicts will crash, it is unavoidable with the current state of the servers, using additional "tactics" (shuttles, offline modules, cramming systems full of non-combat pilots etc..) on purpose is quite another.
And that is what the quoted post from the ASCN forums alludes to, and that is what ASCN leadership need to address....
Accidental node crashing, is one thing, crashing the node intentionally to avoid losing a battle is quite another.. and there is a difference.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The document that has anything to say about what ASCN will do in this conflict mentions lots of carriers launching lots of fighters to defend a POS. That would happen whether the servers were in good health, or poor health. In fact, going by the events in 9UY, it's questionable which side gets a better result from a node crash like that, because any major losses will end up returned through petitions.
Frankly, you can take what you want from those quotes, but as an ASCN CEO reading his Blog, I did not see an encouragement to cause extra lag. I saw a statement that says that it won't matter what tactics we might formulate for POS defense, because the node is going to crash no matter what plan is put into practice - well, at least any plan other than not defending our space, and that's not going to happen.
Btw, have you thought about what happens when the node crashes with 300 fighters in the air?
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MarKand
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:29:00 -
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Luke Im your father "! ( heavy breathing in a mask ) ....
But,,,but ,, but that makes me,,,,,,,
,,,,,,the cousin of DBP that is sister to Thug that has a roomate that is Enslaver that was hanging with SirMolle, who had an affair with Selene that was nice to an uncle that had a granpa whos brother was married to the cousins sister in law that had a ant that was seeing a brother to a uncle of a ant that was in a BOB TREAD ! ! ! that was about a youngwoman that was byuing shoes instead of Tremor, and that will make me all EVE ! ! !
( Heavy breathing in a mask ) Yes Luke , its true. You can feel the warp inside you.....
but but but ,, I have stabbers,, arghhhh You are my father ! ! ! ! ! !
( Little green guy with pointy ears jumps into the drama with a flashligt with Amarr stamps on ) --- Must feel the warp, the warp runs strong in this young poddi-one.....
THE ALT WARS HAS BEGUN ! ! ! Choose ur altname
Comming up......
Empire Alts Write back II Return of the Jita III
Happy huntig and have a blast....
With pew-pew love /M
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slave111
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:30:00 -
[342]
who needs the game when ya can fight on here ------------------------------------------------ Minority report:Father Tommaso Caccini denounced Galileo's opinions on the motion of the Earth, judging them dangerous and close to heresy |
Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:31:00 -
[343]
Originally by: slave111 who needs the game when ya can fight on here
Less lag too
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:31:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:28:11
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
What? You can't handle a fair fight? You expect people to just roll over and die because BoB is coming? Think again.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:32:00 -
[345]
omg reto, thats the most funny thing ive read in a while, thx for the laugh :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:32:00 -
[346]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
Well, I guess it's a good thing we're planning on doing everything in our power to prevent such an overload. A shame you don't share the love of this game of PvP as we do to enable us all to have fun.
That is, really, a true shame - I've admired ASCN for what they've built but you have absolutely NOT intention, as your wayward colleague up there, of even attempting to spread the fun, you care more about maintaining your assets in this virtual game than you do for conflict, war and PvP.
So much for EvE if this is how the biggest alliance in the game will react, and at complete odds with your proposed plans and blogs. Your lies and falsehoods are adding up, CYVOK.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:32:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: slave111 who needs the game when ya can fight on here
Less lag too
But the frequent rollbacks are annoying. Sometimes I have to type my posts 3 times
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:32:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
im sorry but crashing the node on purpose is just bad form.. Not only are you spoiling the fun for thousands of others that are not even in the war but you are causing GM's and others too work overtime..
CCP spends more money on overtime meaning less money for hardare upgrades and more GM's to rework the code..
SO you are saying that doing your above tatic is ok to save face but potentianly ruin the game for 10,000 or more others?
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
How about us saying your attack is ruining the gameplay of thousands since you know it will end in a lagfest. If you're so concerned about not ruining the gameplay of thousands due to lag, you should have picked a different target.
We will defend ourselves to the fullest extent of our abilities, that will inherently cause node death, nothing we can do about that. But assuming we won't defend ourselves fully to spare others, think again. If you worry about the lag and the nodes, don't come to ASCN space.
nice spin.. very nice spin..
but agian BoB are not setting up tatics to purposely crash the node/game..
we are not that low..
hehehhe..
try to hide behind you numbers.. It hasnt worked for you guys in the past and will nto work now either.. The only reason why you are still in 0.0 is that BOB got the attention of Iron & G when they were about to close the curtians on ASCN.. Or does that not come to mind. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:33:00 -
[349]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:33:57
Originally by: Machiavelli7
/waves at Nez
/emote waves back, send drantis my love
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Creon
Amarr Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:33:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I guess the answer to your question will define the moral fibre of an alliance..... I have nothing further to add.
THANK GOD!!! Cujo From A Former Life, Reincarnated As Creon.
Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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MOS DEF
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:33:00 -
[351]
Lol so much bullcrap allready and the fighting hasn't even started yet.
Only a BOB, ASCN thread can do that.
Pathetic really.
As if this pointless trashtalk would change anything.
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:34:00 -
[352]
Originally by: CYVOK
Justifying deliberate lag tactics with the specific and deliberate intent to crash nodes. -CYVOK-
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
d. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:34:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:31:23
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
So basically you're saying that if we want to fight for them we have to do so "fairly", not that we would even consider anything else but you're allowed to use every exploit in the game available to you because erm, uhm, aaaah you're the direct descendents of Jesus Christ?
And yes, crashing a node is an exploit, you are exploiting a weakness in the server/code.
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally. But we will defend a station with all forces we can muster, even though we know that may cause node death.
Important difference is intent here. We INTEND to defend to our fullest ability. And we ACCEPT that that means node death, but that is not our concern.
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iqplayer
Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:35:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Machiavelli7
Saddest statement I've read yet
Attitude like that & you deserve everything you get. Not everyone wishes to play the game like that. Faced with that particular scenario, I can think of several other alternate tactics than purposely crashing a node.
You could turn that around you know. Why would Bob choose a time like this to launch one of the largest wars in Eve history? Perhaps *they've* not heard of the current state of the server?
No, I think they know. They must know the end results of the fights that they're starting. The question that everyone should be asking them is: Why?
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:35:00 -
[355]
Originally by: NATMav How quickly we all forget about EC-P8R and TRUST.
It was fair game for both sides of this to cram 600 pilots and a hundred bubbles into a system back then to make their job "faster". I warned that it set a dangerous precedent back then, and it seems I was right. EvE warfare has degraded into nothing but a laggy, blobby mess ever since.
So before you guys get too caught up in pointing figers at each other, look at your own tactics.
400. And that system could have handled another 600 jumping in without them all dieing, if [g] didn't think it was worth it it wasn't because we didn't want them to (which is what it woudl seem ASCN believe) it was because they didn't think it was worth it.
We ALWAYS think it's worth it.
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:35:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
What? You can't handle a fair fight? You expect people to just roll over and die because BoB is coming? Think again.
We take the bad with the good, we have/had absolutely no intention nor reason to ever willfully exploit the state of the servers or game code.
We don't expect you to roll over and die, neither do we want you to. We don't play EVE so that we can have more pretty stations, we play for the pretty explosions.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:35:00 -
[357]
I think TWD's spin was not so bad, and posting of the entire document really doesn't make ASCN or CYVOK look any better. Sure, as the leader of something so large I don't doubt that the decision to lower thier standards in the face of destruction is hard at all. But it doesn't solve the problem. Personally I would never stoop so low, I would rather quit the game. I've never been a fan or believe of the "if you can't beat em, join em" school of thought, if I was, I'd be playing World of Warcraft right about now. If I were in ASCN at the time, I would have left. Losing is no excuse to "exploit", as it is the same reason why they do it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:36:00 -
[358]
Has everyone forgot that the fight hasnt even started yet?
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Kalissa
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[359]
Well having to choose between BoB and ASCN both sides I've fought against, never had either of them as anything but KOS.
But for me it's a no brainer, good luck to ASCN. A lot of the pilots in BoB have a real ego problem and I'm counting on ASCN to recify that situation.
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:31:23
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
So basically you're saying that if we want to fight for them we have to do so "fairly", not that we would even consider anything else but you're allowed to use every exploit in the game available to you because erm, uhm, aaaah you're the direct descendents of Jesus Christ?
And yes, crashing a node is an exploit, you are exploiting a weakness in the server/code.
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally.
Originally by: CYVOK Blog What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node.
eh? ---------------
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Sivona
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[361]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
So can you please clarrify this because it seems somewhat hypocritical of you to say this.
If RAT do it, it is an exploit, they should all be banned and hundreds of ascn players cancelled subscription (with the intention of resubscribing) to try and force developers to ban RAT members using these tactics.
However if you do it is a legitimate defence of your station?
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Marogian
the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[362]
I've lost some of my respect for BoB today. All that Cyvok has said is that IF the game stops functioning as it should and it stops us being able to get a fight we will do EVERYTHING in our power to have a fight to defned our space. He didn't say he'd exploit to save stations, he didn't say he'd stop you being able to take the stations, he said he'd do anything to enable us to ENTER a system so we can fight you in defence of what is ours.
You say you want to fight us? Thats all we're doing. Promising that we will do everything in our power to gain entry to a system and fight you, the queuing system be damned.
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:37:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Riddari
Oh man he is always so happy when he makes up a bone like this and gets to chew on it forever.
P-Ridday!
You're so very right, I'll be reminding you guys of this for years to come. But nothing I made up would ever come so close to portraying us as the good guys with such startling effectiveness. Thank you CYVOK
I'll forgo quoting his character assessment of AAA here, thousands of ASCN members have already read it. Just know that you'll be seen in similar fashion by much of the community, should you choose to employ such lamer strategies.
I will quote something else however, for community benefit.
Originally by: CYVOK ANSN members and Corps that decide to leave during this conflict will be immediately blacklisted.
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |
ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:38:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 28/09/2006 20:31:23
Originally by: Malachon Draco
If you think we will let the crappy design of the game lose us a station, think again. If you want our stations, you will have to fight for them fair and square, and nodes be damned.
ORLY?
Note: bolded text.
So basically you're saying that if we want to fight for them we have to do so "fairly", not that we would even consider anything else but you're allowed to use every exploit in the game available to you because erm, uhm, aaaah you're the direct descendents of Jesus Christ?
And yes, crashing a node is an exploit, you are exploiting a weakness in the server/code.
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally. But we will defend a station with all forces we can muster, even though we know that may cause node death.
Important difference is intent here. We INTEND to defend to our fullest ability. And we ACCEPT that that means node death, but that is not our concern.
so what your saying is that..
if we attack a station and you cant get your troops in you will keep pilling them into the system next door until the node/server crashes?
cause thats all I keep on reading.. You intend to log on as many as it takes fo rthe node to die so our attack will stop..
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:39:00 -
[365]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
No, we are not crashing a node intentionally. But we will defend a station with all forces we can muster, even though we know that may cause node death.
Important difference is intent here. We INTEND to defend to our fullest ability. And we ACCEPT that that means node death, but that is not our concern.
Apparantly you didn't get the memo, let me quote your alliance leader for you...
Originally by: CRYVOK
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
That damn well sounds like intention to me, yes sirree it does.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:40:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Has everyone forgot that the fight hasnt even started yet?
Top entertainment for the initial post though, I'm just waiting for someone to say "tick tock" and the start of this campaign will be complete
Eve Blacklight Style
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:41:00 -
[367]
tick tock - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:41:00 -
[368]
lol @ Bob
You should be glad ASCN arent such forum-monkeys as yourselves, or this thread would have been really bad by now
Gl to everyone who isnt Bob .o/ ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |
Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:43:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: CYVOK
Justifying deliberate lag tactics with the specific and deliberate intent to crash nodes. -CYVOK-
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
d. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).
You intend to attack us, knowing that the attack and subsequent defense will cause node death. You are just as guilty as us, we just state beforehand that we will not restrain our legitimate defensive efforts to spare the server.
Or what do you want? Our carriers NOT launching fighters at your dreads shooting our POSses? Gotcha, that's really gonna happen, yessir.
We don't go there with the INTENT to crash the node to save our stations, we go there with the INTENT to play eve. Not the intent to Crash eve. ---------------
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Sammiel
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:43:00 -
[370]
Originally by: ponieus
so what your saying is that..
if we attack a station and you cant get your troops in you will keep pilling them into the system next door until the node/server crashes?
cause thats all I keep on reading.. You intend to log on as many as it takes fo rthe node to die so our attack will stop..
LOOK MA I'M IN THE GREAT BOB/ASCN THREAD OF '06!!!
Ummmm, no one could even do that. Node boundaries aren't based on any geographical construct in Eve. So at best, you would crash some unrelated node and lose your fleet doing that. Which would hardly be an awesome strategy for us nefarious exploiters.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:44:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: CYVOK
Justifying deliberate lag tactics with the specific and deliberate intent to crash nodes. -CYVOK-
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
d. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).
You intend to attack us, knowing that the attack and subsequent defense will cause node death. You are just as guilty as us, we just state beforehand that we will not restrain our legitimate defensive efforts to spare the server.
Or what do you want? Our carriers NOT launching fighters at your dreads shooting our POSses? Gotcha, that's really gonna happen, yessir.
we are not the ones putting out statemnts to our troops of vaild tatics "including" killing nodes.
spin it all you want.. we are not the ones that are setting out to crash the nodes/server
we are setting out to fight..
spin it all you want.. for we are warriors and you are our prey.. get used to it. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Stockarian
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
[372]
Wait a minute, I just found an old bob handbook...here it is...their standard, agreed upon answer to any question.
"I'm an important player and you're just a n00b. I've certainly achieved much more in EVE than you have. I have a deep knowledge of the game and you -- well, you don't. I don't want you to forget this and I'm going to give you a subtle reminder in my answer to your question."
Athelas Loraiel > "This isn't a fleet, we're only the appetizer."
Cheers, Stock
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Louisa Torres Well, I guess it's a good thing we're planning on doing everything in our power to prevent such an overload. A shame you don't share the love of this game of PvP as we do to enable us all to have fun.
What is your proposal? Seriously?
Extension of the tournament?
You know fully well that the lagbeast kicks hard these days at 20 v 20.
tbh we've had some great 20v20, even 50v50 fights up in fountain recently. We managed this because we spread ourselves out in different areas of conflict. We didn't just zerg the ONE system with hundreds of pilots.
We'll be avoiding doing that this time, too, I guess whether you guys play along will prove whether you're here for THE GAME (as someone else kept saying up thar ^^) or just for Sim City.
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Alistair Theisman
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:46:00 -
[374]
Again, as just an AXE grunt reading the aforementioned blog, I never got the idea that in the fight against BOB a valid tactic was going to be lag bombs, whether that be shuttles in poses, cans full of BM's, anything of the sort.
It always seemed that based on the numbers of players involved, and the current state of the servers, that any attempt to defend our space with sizeable numbers or any attack on Bob space with sizeable numbers would result in massive lag, and possibly to certainly (again depending on numbers) result in a node crash. This also was with the understanding that it was a very unfortunate side effect of the server states. Do we want large scale fleet battles...Yes. Would we like to be able to activate our mods...Yes. Would we like to try and use other tactics other than the blob...Yes. Will the server support these...NO.
Again I would not expect BOB not to respond in numbers to an invasion of their systems, and I expect ASCN to do the same.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:47:00 -
[375]
ASCN has won this thread.
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Shaa Ku
Amarr Red Monkey Faction
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
[376]
Mayby i am stupid but is it not better if you got x amount of ppl more then your enemy to attack on multiple fronts. You win at 2 or 3 places and lose on 1 rather then just jumping everything you have in to a system, crash it and go nowere.
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Joram McRory
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
[377]
TBH the smack from both sides here (before the shooting has even started) is a disgrace to everyone.
BoB are attacking us we will fight back - we should all have fun - what else is there to say??
gl & to all Joram
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:48:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Randay tick tock
Thanks
Eve Blacklight Style
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:49:00 -
[379]
Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:51:00 -
[380]
Guys please I thought BOB and ASCN were supposed to be the honorable and adult alliances.
Now I for one will not participate in deliberate exploiting of the current eveserver status but I don't think it is something we can avoid. 200 members are easily found.
Now I salute BOB with honor and I will see you on the battlefield, may the best alliance win.
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Zhalakin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:51:00 -
[381]
Originally by: TheTruth1 Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
are u allowed to post here?
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Alexison
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:52:00 -
[382]
In the name of HUNNAKUG I wish everyone good luck and glorious death.
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Exelsior
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:53:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Shaa Ku Mayby i am stupid but is it not better if you got x amount of ppl more then your enemy to attack on multiple fronts. You win at 2 or 3 places and lose on 1 rather then just jumping everything you have in to a system, crash it and go nowere.
I've been thinking the same...
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:53:00 -
[384]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/09/2006 20:54:32
Originally by: TheTruth1 Everyone knows what both sides said. Now its just a flame war. Whats really funny is how everyone thinks that their little bit of input is going to change something for their side. BOB and ASCN are at war, anything else is just spin and posturing and both sides are guilty.
The TWD misquote has played out and the ppl talking about "possible future ASCN exploits" are all saying the same thing over and over with a little twist.
I think its time for a lock, or the players on both sides to learn some self control
time for a lock?.. comeon, things are just heating up...
nobody is being dis-respectful, its just some pretty heated but nevertheless quite polite discussion...
additionally what is being talked about is highly important to all EVE players.. i.e the current state of warfare...
People were complaining about the dullness of the forums.. well enjoy because this is one of those legendary threads that are worth savouring.
[edit: typo]
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:54:00 -
[385]
I wonder what Halseth Durn is thinking in all this..
Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame. |
JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:54:00 -
[386]
Never mind the battles lagging out the servers, I believe this thread has already crashed multiple nodes...
Selling front row seats, best of luck to all
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:55:00 -
[387]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist I wonder what Halseth Durn is thinking in all this..
"Oh no, not again"?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:55:00 -
[388]
When did Eve become so deadly serious that victory became more important than integrity?
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:01:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Shin Ra I used to hate these thread, but with the way the forums have been going lately, this so soooo refreshing.
see even shin ra approves..
hehe.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:02:00 -
[390]
'to coin a phrase from a recently departed corp member... Hello Might Defenders of the Feyth, show me some soul brother. Are you ready to kick it? DJ, spin that ****!
PS. Cyvok - i'ma sorry brother, but we ain't even started yet. Surrender .......
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:04:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Havras
This is what BOB wants.. they don't want fights they want territory without having to pay the tax in blood for taking it. So by defending it with an equal or higher number of ships then they bring ASCN are the bad guys who are causing the node crashes.
Don't be so utterly stupid, it's embarrasing to read.
Do you really think we don't have enough space? We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights. It's your alliance leader that's threatening to crash the servers remember.
We offer the gift of combat and you in turn squeel and threaten to bring down the servers.
gg ASCN, way to ruin any respect you might have garnered.
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:04:00 -
[392]
Originally by: Havras
To BOB.. I say shut it and bring it. Last time you came to AZN with 100 ships your Support fleet got ripped to shreds and your 60's BS wouldn't jump in and engage instead they turned around and went home. How do I know this? I was the FC who pushed you back. Guess what.. I'll be the FC again in as many of the fights as I can.. primary me all you want.
You must of had a lot of hawks.
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Zigadenus
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:06:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Swor 7 days war
6 days of lag and server crashes and 1 day to packup and go home frustrated
its too bad the server can't handle this war, it would have made an epic fight
Q-F-T
So much of this thread makes me laugh - as if anyone had to actually use some special tactic/exploit to lag out everything and crash a node. All it takes is employing logical strategies within official game mechanics and you're off to the lag races. I hope you're all ready to face the task of rationalizing to yourself why you pay money every month for what too often turns into Lagfest Online, far less fun than a barrel of monkies to be sure, not to mention consuming red candles and noticing the change in excrement.
Still, gl, hf. Try not to let the lagbugs bite.
________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage. |
Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:07:00 -
[394]
Mostly I just hope we get enough huge fights (and let's face it, fights in ASCN home turf are going to be HUGE) to draw more attention to fixing the large fleet/POS issues within the game. If this conflict serves to crystalize dev attention to these issues, then regardless of who wins/loses the benefit to all will be enormous.
Clearly, I hope you ALL die. But mostly I just hope CCP works out a better way to keep the nodes happy enough to allow this to happen.
Have fun!
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0Virtu0
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:12:00 -
[395]
Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 28/09/2006 21:12:52
Originally by: Havras
To BOB.. I say shut it and bring it. Last time you came to AZN with 100 ships your Support fleet got ripped to shreds and your 60's BS wouldn't jump in and engage instead they turned around and went home. How do I know this? I was the FC who pushed you back. Guess what.. I'll be the FC again in as many of the fights as I can.. primary me all you want.
You sure sound like the hawt stuff of a Fleet Commander (*giggle*), so how many ships did ASCN have around the gate and how many bubbles?
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:12:00 -
[396]
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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Cmd Woodlouse
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:13:00 -
[397]
OMG would the Bobbits pls quit the never ending whineage about a post from Cyvok? IF them ebil Hobbitses rly do it, THEN you can come here and complain.
But in the end you will face hell. You havent seen the pos-wars of the last months D2 eg. had to go through.
Now its your turn, face the insane amount of lag whilst warping to enemy Posses and say goodbye to your dreads. Its ineveitable in some situations. And its time you will learn it also.
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers. --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Alistair Theisman
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:13:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering Mostly I just hope we get enough huge fights (and let's face it, fights in ASCN home turf are going to be HUGE) to draw more attention to fixing the large fleet/POS issues within the game. If this conflict serves to crystalize dev attention to these issues, then regardless of who wins/loses the benefit to all will be enormous.
Have fun!
QFT!
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:15:00 -
[399]
*light bulb*
Hmmm, maybe we should NAP ASCN. ------------------
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:16:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Havras To BOB.. I say shut it and bring it. Last time you came to AZN with 100 ships your Support fleet got ripped to shreds and your 60's BS wouldn't jump in and engage instead they turned around and went home. How do I know this? I was the FC who pushed you back. Guess what.. I'll be the FC again in as many of the fights as I can.. primary me all you want.
I like a man with confidence in his own ability
Eve Blacklight Style
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Durvaul
Caldari SAS Strike Team
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:16:00 -
[401]
yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them
Yeh
BOB, u just started a war you cant finish
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0Virtu0
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:17:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Durvaul yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them
Yeh
BOB, u just started a war you cant finish
Wow, its like an alt post made with someone's main.
http://www.shabadoo.info/ggremedial/ - See the Goon Drama! |
Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:18:00 -
[403]
I find it particularly amusing that the same people who have continuously stated we "avoid a challenge", despite the fact no one has EVER come to our home regions to take us on, are now the same people who think we don't know what we've started and "have started a war we can't finish".
I laugh at you all, make up your minds and, in the meantime, we'll prove once and for all why we're better than all of you put together.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:18:00 -
[404]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse OMG would the Bobbits pls quit the never ending whineage about a post from Cyvok? IF them ebil Hobbitses rly do it, THEN you can come here and complain.
But in the end you will face hell. You havent seen the pos-wars of the last months D2 eg. had to go through.
Now its your turn, face the insane amount of lag whilst warping to enemy Posses and say goodbye to your dreads. Its ineveitable in some situations. And its time you will learn it also.
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
My conclusion is all this posturing on forums is part of some complicated pre war rite.
P.S.: Yes I do a lot of war rites too
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Shanzem
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:18:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse OMG would the Bobbits pls quit the never ending whineage about a post from Cyvok? IF them ebil Hobbitses rly do it, THEN you can come here and complain.
But in the end you will face hell. You havent seen the pos-wars of the last months D2 eg. had to go through.
Now its your turn, face the insane amount of lag whilst warping to enemy Posses and say goodbye to your dreads. Its ineveitable in some situations. And its time you will learn it also.
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
out of all these posts.. flamebaits and e-peen flinging..
this one.. only holds the truth whole truth and nothing but the truth
EVE was killed by pos, station ping pong was alot better imho
meh im just a grunt following orders.. all i wanna do .. is grab a pvp fitted ship and shoot a target.. end of the day this is a game.. and i want to have fun..
i know theres quite ones like myself both sides that feel the same.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:23:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Louisa Torres I laugh at you all, make up your minds and, in the meantime, we'll prove once and for all why we're better than all of you put together.
Better at what? Total immature forum whoring? You for sure are working towards that "aim". --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:23:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Louisa Torres I find it particularly amusing that the same people who have continuously stated we "avoid a challenge", [...] and "have started a war we can't finish".
agreed those comments are too much but comon the pre-emptive complaint about the lag was a bit rich
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Stockarian
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:23:00 -
[408]
Athelas Loraiel > "This isn't a fleet, we're only the appetizer."
Cheers, Stock
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Trev Kachanov
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:24:00 -
[409]
Is there really any reason to keep the whorum fighting going? I mean come on... lets pewpew and leave the whining till after there's been atleast 1 friggin battle!
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Itzena
Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:24:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights.
If you want 'fun fights', why is BoB's standard move before a battle begins to come onto these forums and run smear campaigns against whoever you're fighting? -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be. |
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:26:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights.
If you want 'fun fights', why is BoB's standard move before a battle begins to come onto these forums and run smear campaigns against whoever you're fighting?
Tradition?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:26:00 -
[412]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Louisa Torres I laugh at you all, make up your minds and, in the meantime, we'll prove once and for all why we're better than all of you put together.
Better at what? Total immature forum whoring? You for sure are working towards that "aim".
I'm trying to be more like you, Woody.
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analev godder
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:26:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Louisa Torres I find it particularly amusing that the same people who have continuously stated we "avoid a challenge", despite the fact no one has EVER come to our home regions to take us on, are now the same people who think we don't know what we've started and "have started a war we can't finish".
I laugh at you all, make up your minds and, in the meantime, we'll prove once and for all why we're better than all of you put together.
Hey thats EvE-O at its best.
Say you can't, won't, don't dare, .... And when you finally give them what they want they shout your crazy.
Anyway I think we have some exiting times ahead of us. Lets hope the hardware will be neutral in this bit. Although i'm getting the impression we gonna get wtfpwn by CCP
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:31:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Durvaul yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them
Yeh
BOB, u just started a war you cant finish
Aren't you Mr. Happ?
Thought so...
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:32:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?
Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE. |
Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:33:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Louisa Torres I find it particularly amusing that the same people who have continuously stated we "avoid a challenge", [...] and "have started a war we can't finish".
agreed those comments are too much but comon the pre-emptive complaint about the lag was a bit rich
We can't complain about the lag, Gob, I've not seen anyone complain about it - what we've highlighted is the fact that CYVOK is prepared to sabotage THE CHANCE of having fun, to ensure victory.
Say what you like about us, that is beyond even our devious and twisted minds to implement. Hopefully our intent to avoid such a scenario will be enough but, ultimately, it's gonna take both sides to make it happen.
If you're gonna fight like you say you're gonna fight, the server might survive. Pointless blobbing one spot when your enemy attacks 3.
Unfortunately, there might just be a bandwagon effect, and that won't do anyone any good. But we'll see.
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Durvaul
Caldari SAS Strike Team
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Afonso Henriques
Originally by: Durvaul yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them
Yeh
BOB, u just started a war you cant finish
Aren't you Mr. Happ?
Thought so...
Who? And no, this is my main, i have been reading this forum for about a month and making my own decisions based on what i read, i don't think bob can win.
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?
so true man, so very very true.
My ex-huzzah freinds inform me of exctly what you mean.
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Lianhaun
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:35:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Riddari Hey Lianhaun, "back" so soon? Hey Al Haquis, you know you didn't lift a finger for Unity?
See, thats all cryptic smack but understood by each one of them! It's in fact not smack but psy-war!
No idea what you mean, perhaps you dont know me as well as you¦d like to think.
Also I didn¦t hear U¦K complain about a lack of support form their old buddies, everyone knows they only need to say the word and people rush to their add waving Minnie banners and screaming anti slavery slogans.
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TheLast0ne
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 -
[420]
There is way too many*****y people that post on this forum. I like Chicken |
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wazaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 -
[421]
why is bob attaking ascn ? :o
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:36:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Shin Ra I used to hate these thread, but with the way the forums have been going lately, this so soooo refreshing.
Because it makes everybody forget how badly BE screwed up, by ****ing away the merc reputation you had gained lately?
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:37:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights.
If you want 'fun fights', why is BoB's standard move before a battle begins to come onto these forums and run smear campaigns against whoever you're fighting?
Tradition?
LOL
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
Khayman33
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:40:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering Mostly I just hope we get enough huge fights (and let's face it, fights in ASCN home turf are going to be HUGE) to draw more attention to fixing the large fleet/POS issues within the game. If this conflict serves to crystalize dev attention to these issues, then regardless of who wins/loses the benefit to all will be enormous.
Clearly, I hope you ALL die. But mostly I just hope CCP works out a better way to keep the nodes happy enough to allow this to happen.
Have fun!
Agree !
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stephane devaulx
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:42:00 -
[425]
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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Cmd Woodlouse
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:42:00 -
[426]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?
Then its not an "alliance" you are speaking of.
Ofc wars are won by morale. And morale in territorial wars = gaining/losing territorial objects like Outposts.
Now see how you can achieve that. Not by killing BS/Supportcraft. Its by killing Posses and keeping up your own. Rest is patience and in worst cases only waiting in ur own Pos forcefield for something to happen... --------------------------------
Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Adhamhnon
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:43:00 -
[427]
You know what would be really nice? How about everybody, ASCN and BoB, stop auditioning for a leading role on the WoW kiddiesmack forums and just have a good fight? I know, I'm living in some fantasyworld where people might show a little respect for each other and just have a good time playing a GAME, but hey, I can dream.
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wazaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:44:00 -
[428]
will chimera pact support ascn? (stupid bot :o )
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WildHope
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:44:00 -
[429]
Edited by: WildHope on 28/09/2006 21:44:51 Ahhh the nostalgia...
Threads like these make me want to login.
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations)
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DarkXeRoX
Biohazzard Task Force
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:51:00 -
[430]
Good hunting BoB \0/
New toys explode better as old ones :P
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:51:00 -
[431]
Excellent - I may have to come out of retirement!
Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here |
Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:54:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
corps hating (YES, HATING) each other
ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:00:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?
Then its not an "alliance" you are speaking of.
Ofc wars are won by morale. And morale in territorial wars = gaining/losing territorial objects like Outposts.
Now see how you can achieve that. Not by killing BS/Supportcraft. Its by killing Posses and keeping up your own. Rest is patience and in worst cases only waiting in ur own Pos forcefield for something to happen...
Concur. Been saying this for a while. Battlefleets are largely just a distraction while the real work is done behind the scenes. Kill/loss means nothing when everything depends on POS counts...
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:00:00 -
[434]
Edited by: Steel Rat on 28/09/2006 22:05:30
Originally by: Havras
Don't be so utterly stupid, it's embarrasing to read.
Do you really think we don't have enough space? We don't play Sim City, we want action and fun fleet fights. It's your alliance leader that's threatening to crash the servers remember.
We offer the gift of combat and you in turn squeel and threaten to bring down the servers.
gg ASCN, way to ruin any respect you might have garnered.
Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides).
First off, far as I am concerned, BOB lost ANY respect and friendship they had with me the moment they started this and that was last nite when they sent their "Diplomat" and friend to my teamspeak server to deliver the news. BoB has chosen to go after the 2 alliances in the game that have always given them respect, helped when asked against their worst enemies (G/D2/Iron, etc.) and yet when its time for BoB to go out in a Blaze of Glory, BoB doesn't chose their enemies to shoot, they chose the people that they have the most friends with but obviously ZERO respect for.
Why are they shooting ASCN and AXE? Not because we have sworn to forever kill them, not because we threatened to take their space some day, not because we exploit but because unlike their real enemies, we actually fight. We don't run around using every exploit in the book like their real enemies, we don't log off and use login traps like their real enemies, we don't fit 4 WCS per raven and log anytime a threat shows up, no, we fight. We lose some, we win some but we fight.
Now BoB comes on these forums posting how ASCN is going to deliberately crash nodes and do this and that, blah blah blah. When the reality is, BoB chose this war with the largest Alliance in the game. We did not choose this war. They have PURPOSEFULLY chosen this war knowing full well that the current state of Eve, the game mechanics and the hardware, can not in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM handle what is about to take place. And now they have used these forums as an avenue to start their smackwar with their FRIENDS to JUSTIY their BS and what is about to take place. Instead of waiting for kali and hopefully new hardware coming in the near future that would allow us to actually have a fight that might be halfway enjoyable, you prefer this. And then you want to f'in smack about it. Sheesh.
No one is going to win this war. The servers and lag are going to be the only winners. And any of you who come on these forums and post such f'in rubbish as I have quoted above are just lame. You guys know this game as well and in most cases better than most of us. YOU KNOW EXACTLY whats going to happen whether its with or without the intent of ASCN. But you chose to do this to prove a point, a point mainly to CCP and yet you chose to do it against many people who considered you friends and at the very least respected you. If you think the servers can handle this kind of war, you are insane. If you think I should just tell my alliance to logoff and let you take my station because "oh its disrespectful to BoB if the node crashes" while we TRY TO F'IN DEFEND OUR STATIONS then maybe you should consider cancelling your account now and save us all alot of headaches because I will defend. And if the node crashes, too f'in bad, not my problem, its your problem for coming into my space.
You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game even if I think your timing stinks. But leave your lameass smacktalk at home. Win or lose, your going to know you've been in a fight. You don't need to be a bunch of tards in the process.
- Steel Rat CEO Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Alliance Leader
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:02:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Durvaul
Originally by: Afonso Henriques
Originally by: Durvaul yeh, BOB invade ASCN, **** off half the southern alliances and get wtfpwned by them
Yeh
BOB, u just started a war you cant finish
Aren't you Mr. Happ?
Thought so...
Who? And no, this is my main, i have been reading this forum for about a month and making my own decisions based on what i read, i don't think bob can win.
Hmmm thats interesting you were in the same corp as Mr Happ for 2 months but don't know who he is , plus isn't MR Happ Aka Lt Sliver? your current and past CEO oh and you been in the same corps as both of them
However on topic I can hardly see how you can say ASCN would win by reading the forum for the last month.....
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:03:00 -
[436]
Edited by: Turkantho on 28/09/2006 22:05:26 Begun the whorum wars have, take it ingame ffs
@ASCN just a tip, ignore those childish bob forum whorage or just take it for a laugh
oh and woody is right and yes station ping pong was better
edit: @BOB how dare you to take our favourite targets away ?
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:05:00 -
[437]
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
i think u will find thats actually mine.
d solo.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:06:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
corps hating (YES, HATING) each other
ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do
Ofc you are right.
P.S. Unfortunately i`m unable to quote alts, that spamming my eve-mail with proposal of buying access on ASCN directors, logistic, junior hq, hq forums. I cleaned my eve-mail box yesterday.
Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE. |
Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:07:00 -
[439]
Edited by: Hakera on 28/09/2006 22:07:46
Originally by: Evil Thug
Wrong. Every war in EVE is won by morale. Do you really think, that alliance where corps hating (YES, HATING) each other will survive against 100 - 150 of average pvpers ?
Divide et impera eh ET, the war for morale has begun already i see with much prophecising on things to come.
though i am not ascn for some time, people have been misquoting and taking out of context many of the posts from there. The one by cyvok about tactics particularly. Whilst yes a tactic of war such is propaganda. The BoB forum machine will be an effective weapon as the saying goes, 'wars are won in the will'.
My own opinion is ASCN will fortify its core systems rather than expend too many resources protecting the likes of PS. Certiantly if 'air superiority' is maintained by the invaders, a tough war it will be, though i dont know the exact objectives of BoB et al.
Though i cant help but draw parallels to the middle earth when sauron marches on the field, will that be cyvok in his titan in the last stand of AZN? Though admitadly I have trouble wondering if mordor is to the east of the map or to the west in eve's case....
more drunken thoughts in another bottle or two!
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OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:10:00 -
[440]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo Excellent - I may have to come out of retirement!
Woot.... Blinky Blinky team 4tw!
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:12:00 -
[441]
Well.
Lets hope it's a good one.
Let us see how CCP can support warfare with the numbers both teams can put into battle, at multiple places at the same time. Not forgetting any 3rd parties wanting to crash in.
Let us see how jump queues will decimate unlucky fleets. Let us see how fighters take down nodes.
The morale within ASCN is high. The morale within BOB is presumably high, because they know they are going up against an entity that will meet them on the battlefield.
Game has begun.
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:12:00 -
[442]
Edited by: Lord Draco on 28/09/2006 22:13:38
Originally by: Adhamhnon You know what would be really nice? How about everybody, ASCN and BoB, stop auditioning for a leading role on the WoW kiddiesmack forums and just have a good fight? I know, I'm living in some fantasyworld where people might show a little respect for each other and just have a good time playing a GAME, but hey, I can dream.
I have to agree with you. I personlly like you guys a lot. I'll lways remember the dedication you showed in the EC op with us.
In eve war is a good thing. I dont know what many of you think, but eve was getting very stale. I am glad there is a reason to play again. I for one am sick to death of the 'wait for kali' mentality thats infected the eve populace. Having been here since day one I know that all the sheeple out there would start hoarding isk and bunkering up (as if it was really needed) for the next major expansion. Waiting for kali is imo nothing but an excuse for inaction. I don't pay to play a game where I login, spin my ship and chat with friends. I want to blow stuff up and create more memories with my friends and enemies. Hopefully this will be an event worthy of remembering.
As for all the two-bit flame throwers from parties who arent involved, you've now got a whole new era of posts to proclaim your bob-fanboyism (and to a lesser extent ascne fanboyism). So, please don;t blow your load on the first date here, save some as its going to be a long road ahead. I'll look forward to reading your oh-so-objective posts here and laughing at your stupidity (not aimed at ascn, rather the legion of trolling fanboys). Please don's dissapoint us and try a little better to control your e-envy.
p.s. lets drop the lag argument everyone. we have said our piece, we have laid our cards on the table, lets see what happens ok?
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:17:00 -
[443]
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 28/09/2006 22:17:56
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
I doubt that you will be able to destroy ASCN. Territorial wars are not won by player pvp skills those days, but by logistics and sheer amount of numbers.
corps hating (YES, HATING) each other
ET I think you know a lot less about ascn than you think you do
Ofc you are right.
P.S. Unfortunately i`m unable to quote alts, that spamming my eve-mail with proposal of buying access on ASCN directors, logistic, junior hq, hq forums. I cleaned my eve-mail box yesterday.
The alliance is big, among that many players of course there will be some backstabbers/lameasses doesnt mean the corps hate each other.
Btw if you get any more mail selling you access to the hq forums could you please forward it to me? I cant dont have access to the HQ section so I could use the infos
- Gob
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Havras
the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:21:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Steel Rat Edited by: Steel Rat on 28/09/2006 22:05:30 Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides).
First off, far as I am concerned, BOB lost ANY respect and friendship they had with me the moment they started this and that was last nite when they sent their "Diplomat" and friend to my teamspeak server to deliver the news. BoB has chosen to go after the 2 alliances in the game that have always given them respect, helped when asked against their worst enemies (G/D2/Iron, etc.) and yet when its time for BoB to go out in a Blaze of Glory, BoB doesn't chose their enemies to shoot, they chose the people that they have the most friends with but obviously ZERO respect for.
Why are they shooting ASCN and AXE? Not because we have sworn to forever kill them, not because we threatened to take their space some day, not because we exploit but because unlike their real enemies, we actually fight. We don't run around using every exploit in the book like their real enemies, we don't log off and use login traps like their real enemies, we don't fit 4 WCS per raven and log anytime a threat shows up, no, we fight. We lose some, we win some but we fight.
Now BoB comes on these forums posting how ASCN is going to deliberately crash nodes and do this and that, blah blah blah. When the reality is, BoB chose this war with the largest Alliance in the game. We did not choose this war. They have PURPOSEFULLY chosen this war knowing full well that the current state of Eve, the game mechanics and the hardware, can not in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM handle what is about to take place. And now they have used these forums as an avenue to start their smackwar with their FRIENDS to JUSTIY their BS and what is about to take place. Instead of waiting for kali and hopefully new hardware coming in the near future that would allow us to actually have a fight that might be halfway enjoyable, you prefer this. And then you want to f'in smack about it. Sheesh.
No one is going to win this war. The servers and lag are going to be the only winners. And any of you who come on these forums and post such f'in rubbish as I have quoted above are just lame. You guys know this game as well and in most cases better than most of us. YOU KNOW EXACTLY whats going to happen whether its with or without the intent of ASCN. But you chose to do this to prove a point, a point mainly to CCP and yet you chose to do it against many people who considered you friends and at the very least respected you. If you think the servers can handle this kind of war, you are insane. If you think I should just tell my alliance to logoff and let you take my station because "oh its disrespectful to BoB if the node crashes" while we TRY TO F'IN DEFEND OUR STATIONS then maybe you should consider cancelling your account now and save us all alot of headaches because I will defend. And if the node crashes, too f'in bad, not my problem, its your problem for coming into my space.
You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game even if I think your timing stinks. But leave your lameass smacktalk at home. Win or lose, your going to know you've been in a fight. You don't need to be a bunch of tards in the process.
- Steel Rat CEO Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Alliance Leader
Wow, I was going to reply to that but in light of yours, which pretty well summed things up, I'll shut my trap after I say one more thing.
I resisted posting for 15 pages.. the crap I'm seeing spewed here was to much and it came off hotter then I wanted it to. For that I apologize.
BoB to say we won't fight or we don't care to defend "properly"... you know better. I pointed out, in a bad way but still.., that whenever you've brought a fleet into our space we've met you head on. So I say again. You KNOW better.
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:21:00 -
[445]
I gotta interject here.
Steel Rat I'm sorry mate but your priorities here are so out of whack its just funny. We're offering you PVP. We're saying that we're going to drive up to your doorstep and give you a scrap. I really don't see any betrayal here or really anything that should prompt such a complaint. Especially from you.
If the situations were reversed then i garauntee that you'd have a few hundred BoB pilots in this thread just saying Thank you. Seriously mate you want to sit and think of what you want out of this game cause really pvp is the only reason to play. Lag or no Lag the only excitement, the only emotion and the only fun comes from putting yourself out there and having a go.
PVP on your doorstep. You want us to leave you alone to mine maybe? --------------
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:22:00 -
[446]
LoL this is sooo ironic, everytime we waged war against G or Iron or Goons or who ever the forums brigade of BoB Fanbois and co all go whining about us not attacking ASCN and why always pick on the little guy. Lol well guess what we are bored so we are going to war with ASCN then the same people come and comment, omg thats like so stupid your like so dead. Guess what, its gonna be fun, stuff is gonna blow up and best of all all my m8s who have gotten tired of the game might actually start playing agian ... thats if CCP wants them back (fix the bloody nodes ... plz )
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Elisca Black
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:23:00 -
[447]
Mark this day, let history record the might of ASCN.
DO NOT FEAR!
For you will stand in our hall of the Conquered.
They too were once mighty.
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Durvaul
Caldari SAS Strike Team
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:25:00 -
[448]
This will be a funny war tbh
Cause bob are taking on a 5k strong alliance. Which means they will need to field all they have to maintain face
Sevral alliances ingame want bob dead so the second bob start taking lossess and they WILL take heavy lossess as ASCN is NOT Xetic and will not FOLD like Xetic did.
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
So the question to BOB is, as much as you THINK your invincible - Can you really do this? Or is this for another reason
Hi, we are bob, we dont want anyone stronger than us so... oh **** they built a Titan - OKAY BOB Pilots, thats our reason, in we go.
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
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Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:28:00 -
[449]
Originally by: Durvaul
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
quoted for record keeping :)
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:29:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Durvaul This will be a funny war tbh
Cause bob are taking on a 5k strong alliance. Which means they will need to field all they have to maintain face
Sevral alliances ingame want bob dead so the second bob start taking lossess and they WILL take heavy lossess as ASCN is NOT Xetic and will not FOLD like Xetic did.
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
So the question to BOB is, as much as you THINK your invincible - Can you really do this? Or is this for another reason
Hi, we are bob, we dont want anyone stronger than us so... oh **** they built a Titan - OKAY BOB Pilots, thats our reason, in we go.
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
Oh my god, dude, just dude ... For one your a crap fortune teller for 2 if its the end of bob its the end of BoB like omg and here i thought i was a drama queen. Need a tissue ?
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
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Elisca Black
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:30:00 -
[451]
Originally by: Durvaul This will be a funny war tbh
Cause bob are taking on a 5k strong alliance. Which means they will need to field all they have to maintain face
Sevral alliances ingame want bob dead so the second bob start taking lossess and they WILL take heavy lossess as ASCN is NOT Xetic and will not FOLD like Xetic did.
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
So the question to BOB is, as much as you THINK your invincible - Can you really do this? Or is this for another reason
Hi, we are bob, we dont want anyone stronger than us so... oh **** they built a Titan - OKAY BOB Pilots, thats our reason, in we go.
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
Tbh i'm thinking more like turkey shoot...gobble gobble
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Dogsta
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:30:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Steel Rat Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides). - Steel Rat CEO Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Alliance Leader[/quote
Dude, you really shoulda have just stuck to your first Idea and not posted. it's a game, times change, and directions change. You insult pretty much 3/4 of the pvp comunity there by sayin gall of BoB's enemies are exploiters. You are mearly the flavor of the year, 2 years ago it was FA, a few thousand fights, hundreds of thousands of killmails later they turn thier eyes on your alliance. it's what they do. Your alliance is what? 5000 strong? that in it's self would have been enough reason to choo choose you. add to that the Titan and voilia. have fun. BoB are not super human. but never underestimate any enemy :) Always Have Been, Always Will Be!
*A*W*T* --------
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:32:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Durvaul This will be a funny war tbh
Cause bob are taking on a 5k strong alliance. Which means they will need to field all they have to maintain face
Sevral alliances ingame want bob dead so the second bob start taking lossess and they WILL take heavy lossess as ASCN is NOT Xetic and will not FOLD like Xetic did.
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
So the question to BOB is, as much as you THINK your invincible - Can you really do this? Or is this for another reason
Hi, we are bob, we dont want anyone stronger than us so... oh **** they built a Titan - OKAY BOB Pilots, thats our reason, in we go.
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
This is exctly the kind of comment the forums don't need. I just did a little search of you on our kb and you arent there at all. So, exactly what experience with us are you basing this off of? What you read on the forums? Thats like saying you read the National Enquirer for news and ACTUALLY believe it.
GG you
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Cipher7
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:41:00 -
[454]
War is supposed to be fun. Remember that word, fun?
So let's warm up the mud, get the nude models oiled up, and wish the contestants a fun time okay?
Good luck BoB. Good luck ASCN.
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Blooded Heromy
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:42:00 -
[455]
Originally by: Lord Draco
Originally by: Durvaul This will be a funny war tbh
Cause bob are taking on a 5k strong alliance. Which means they will need to field all they have to maintain face
Sevral alliances ingame want bob dead so the second bob start taking lossess and they WILL take heavy lossess as ASCN is NOT Xetic and will not FOLD like Xetic did.
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
So the question to BOB is, as much as you THINK your invincible - Can you really do this? Or is this for another reason
Hi, we are bob, we dont want anyone stronger than us so... oh **** they built a Titan - OKAY BOB Pilots, thats our reason, in we go.
Cause tbh - Yah, i think ull start well, but in the end, this is the end of bob, i will bet now and if this doesnt hold true i will PERSONALLY transfer 500mil to Shrikes account, that BOB will lose regions in this war
This is exctly the kind of comment the forums don't need. I just did a little search of you on our kb and you arent there at all. So, exactly what experience with us are you basing this off of? What you read on the forums? Thats like saying you read the National Enquirer for news and ACTUALLY believe it.
GG you
just 1 thing to say, Bwahahahaha
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Marcusi
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:42:00 -
[456]
Have a fun weekend everyone and may the servers not crash.
\o/ ___________________________
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:46:00 -
[457]
Dont forget when you push a pendulum, it swings back :)
Looking forward to upcoming fights.
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:56:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Havras To BOB.. I say shut it and bring it. Last time you came to AZN with 100 ships your Support fleet got ripped to shreds and your 60's BS wouldn't jump in and engage instead they turned around and went home. How do I know this? I was the FC who pushed you back. Guess what.. I'll be the FC again in as many of the fights as I can.. primary me all you want.
I like a man with confidence in his own ability
Yeah, Primary him as much as you want! Just don't primary me in my Domi, all the Fleet-domi setup needs is a chance to prove itself.
All you need to do is believe in the domi and you can make anything happen.
Anyhow though, moving back onto productive discussion I blame the veterans most of all. Theyre the ones who ruined eve with thier vapid elitism, what with the constant refrain "Too many nubs have battleships, PWNMOBILES SHOULD BE RARE." So CCP actually listened and they came out with the elusive rare pwnmobiles and even a mechanic to gueruntee thier history changing importance (POS) They made them so expensive and hard to obtain, that the only way to justify it was to make the costs of losing to one exhorbantly high.
But hey Pwnmobiles are rare now right, thats the most important thing. You have something to lord over the newbs. Something they cannot feasibly ever have.
It really bothers me to be honost, because this is a result of that. I gueruntee you that if Frigs cost 1 million isk, cruisers cost 5 million isk, Battleships cost 10, dreadnaughts cost 15, and carriers cost 12 and none of them required ANY skills at level 5 to fly you would see pvp @#$^&&ing galore. You would see POS's dieng left and right outposts going up and changing ownership, a roiling tide of battle.
But oh no, some two month old player might hop into a dreadnaught and be reasonably effective in it (BECAUSE THATS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO) and the whiners have decided that would end EVE.
The biggest mistake CCP ever made was when they decided that ships should be an abstractions for levels found in other games, and not for character classes. Frankly I think the best thing for Eve would be to gut the character system and replace it with a simple box asking you what kind of role you want to play when you sign up.
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:57:00 -
[459]
You're all going to die!
... well, quite a few of you anyway. But it's till going to be fun! No wait, I meant laggy. It's going to be laggy.
Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew.... squisssh! |
Xoria Krint
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:57:00 -
[460]
Ascendant Frontier i wish you good luck. Now go out there and kick some BoB. ----
My Movies |
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hermot
Amarr The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:02:00 -
[461]
WTB jita node x 3
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:02:00 -
[462]
Reading all this crying I think we killed Kenny. --
Nobody stays behind |
Xoria Krint
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:03:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Cyleth Reading all this crying I think we killed Kenny.
Your bastard Just had to, sorry
*vanish* ----
My Movies |
Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:05:00 -
[464]
Originally by: Coranor I gotta interject here.
Steel Rat I'm sorry mate but your priorities here are so out of whack its just funny. We're offering you PVP. We're saying that we're going to drive up to your doorstep and give you a scrap. I really don't see any betrayal here or really anything that should prompt such a complaint. Especially from you.
If the situations were reversed then i garauntee that you'd have a few hundred BoB pilots in this thread just saying Thank you. Seriously mate you want to sit and think of what you want out of this game cause really pvp is the only reason to play. Lag or no Lag the only excitement, the only emotion and the only fun comes from putting yourself out there and having a go.
PVP on your doorstep. You want us to leave you alone to mine maybe?
Did you even bother to read my post? Or your Ego hit the minute you saw Leader of Axiom = carebear = must FLAME!
Let me help you:
You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game ...
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fallen merovigean
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:06:00 -
[465]
Walk with we hand in hand, to the pearly gates of no mans land. The fate hundreds, nay thousands where they shall meet, will be the end, a quarel yet to be beat. Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, all race be equal but yet set afar, where one is not judge but decided, in his skills, friends , and pilots license !! :) Dont be scared, dont ever fear, The Band of Brothers will never fear, we will meet our enemys on the field. ASCN will never stand, for the atrocities of the Band. Let it be heard, and let it stand the war of the worlds is at hand. In the end one will stand the one, the almighty.......... I wanted my frist post to be a one to remember excuse my mis-spellings and the dots at the end will be written in the future, but me, we all know who i vote, and fight for.
Fallen Merovigean Xoth, FIX
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superscarface
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:10:00 -
[466]
No matter the outcome of this glorious clash of titans, it's sure going to be entertaining to watch. Gosh, I'm excited.
/salute
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Monarch
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:10:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Coranor I gotta interject here.
Steel Rat I'm sorry mate but your priorities here are so out of whack its just funny. We're offering you PVP. We're saying that we're going to drive up to your doorstep and give you a scrap. I really don't see any betrayal here or really anything that should prompt such a complaint. Especially from you.
If the situations were reversed then i garauntee that you'd have a few hundred BoB pilots in this thread just saying Thank you. Seriously mate you want to sit and think of what you want out of this game cause really pvp is the only reason to play. Lag or no Lag the only excitement, the only emotion and the only fun comes from putting yourself out there and having a go.
PVP on your doorstep. You want us to leave you alone to mine maybe?
Did you even bother to read my post? Or your Ego hit the minute you saw Leader of Axiom = carebear = must FLAME!
Let me help you:
You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game ...
You reek of fear
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:11:00 -
[468]
Gotta start thinking a name for this war now don't we ? Anyone object to Great Southern War, or is that too cliche ?
If nothing else, this is going to create two weakened states if its a tough fight, or one large and fairly strong one if all goes well for a side. Its the end of the world as we know it regardless, fine by me .
Tharsis needs some ! |
Drago Musevenii
The Legion.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:11:00 -
[469]
Good luck all those who are about to be involved in this situation, its been a little quite in bob space of late apart from the odd AAA, my guns were starting to get rusty and my torp projectiles were starting to jam, i can now brush off the cobwebs and get me some pew pew ;)
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:11:00 -
[470]
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Coranor I gotta interject here.
Steel Rat I'm sorry mate but your priorities here are so out of whack its just funny. We're offering you PVP. We're saying that we're going to drive up to your doorstep and give you a scrap. I really don't see any betrayal here or really anything that should prompt such a complaint. Especially from you.
If the situations were reversed then i garauntee that you'd have a few hundred BoB pilots in this thread just saying Thank you. Seriously mate you want to sit and think of what you want out of this game cause really pvp is the only reason to play. Lag or no Lag the only excitement, the only emotion and the only fun comes from putting yourself out there and having a go.
PVP on your doorstep. You want us to leave you alone to mine maybe?
Did you even bother to read my post? Or your Ego hit the minute you saw Leader of Axiom = carebear = must FLAME!
Let me help you:
You want to fight? Bring it. I got no problem shooting you or anyone else in this game ...
Dont bother they arent listening, they just keep repeating how uber they are and how we arent but a hopeless bunch of carebears...
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:12:00 -
[471]
any shooty shooty yet?
From Dusk till Dawn
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Inmate 19225004
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:13:00 -
[472]
too much blah blah blah...
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:14:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Gierling gut the character system and replace it with a simple box asking you what kind of role you want to play when you sign up.
I put "Space Gigolo". Still waiting on the content to be added though, I hear its coming 4 patches from now. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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gaz widdow
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:15:00 -
[474]
You may not post in this forum without showing your corporation/alliance identifiers, as detailed in the rules - Serathu ([email protected])
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:16:00 -
[475]
Edited by: BoinKlasik on 28/09/2006 23:17:02
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Dogsta
Originally by: Steel Rat
Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides). - Steel Rat CEO Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Alliance Leader
Dude, you really shoulda have just stuck to your first Idea and not posted. it's a game, times change, and directions change. You insult pretty much 3/4 of the pvp comunity there by sayin gall of BoB's enemies are exploiters. You are mearly the flavor of the year, 2 years ago it was FA, a few thousand fights, hundreds of thousands of killmails later they turn thier eyes on your alliance. it's what they do. Your alliance is what? 5000 strong? that in it's self would have been enough reason to choo choose you. add to that the Titan and voilia. have fun. BoB are not super human. but never underestimate any enemy :)
Actually, that was the reasoning given to me, I just didn't quote it. In other words I was paraphrasing what I was told. I wasn't giving you my opinion on why axe and ascn were being attacked.
dude, this is the second time you fail getting tags right.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:16:00 -
[476]
Edited by: Steel Rat on 28/09/2006 23:16:18
Originally by: Steel Rat Ya know, I wasn't going to post but I have pretty much had enough. 15 pages of utter BS (frankly from both sides). - Steel Rat CEO Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Alliance Leader[/quote
Dude, you really shoulda have just stuck to your first Idea and not posted. it's a game, times change, and directions change. You insult pretty much 3/4 of the pvp comunity there by sayin gall of BoB's enemies are exploiters. You are mearly the flavor of the year, 2 years ago it was FA, a few thousand fights, hundreds of thousands of killmails later they turn thier eyes on your alliance. it's what they do. Your alliance is what? 5000 strong? that in it's self would have been enough reason to choo choose you. add to that the Titan and voilia. have fun. BoB are not super human. but never underestimate any enemy :)
Actually, that was the reasoning given to me, I just didn't quote it. In other words I was paraphrasing what I was told. I wasn't giving you my opinion on why axe and ascn were being attacked.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:18:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Nafri any shooty shooty yet?
nope
- Gob
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EL TITAN
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:22:00 -
[478]
btw, have you guys named your titan? whats the name ;o _________________________________________________ <3 hi |
liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[479]
bringing 'fleet-domis' and 'shield tanked' tempests into the fight + noob ravens with npc gear + bad fleetcommanders -> bob will slaughter you in almost every engagement you will have when the odds are even. by even i mean 2:1 max.
on the industrial/pos spamming/defense side.. i dont know. play your card there ascn. youre rich and you like boring stuff.
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Soulis
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[480]
Edited by: Soulis on 28/09/2006 23:23:05 18 pages of pure smack.
Pete Doherty will be here for some soon.
Shinra - The Good Guys pfffftttttt - Immy |
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[481]
I wonder if BoB will roll out the motherships.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:23:00 -
[482]
<sarcasm>
bob is gonna play the "let's blob them" game again >D shame on you you have like so much more members then ascn.. booo
</sarcasm>
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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:24:00 -
[483]
Does this mean no Christmas cards this year?
Looking foward to the fun fights. Lets all hope the server can cope.
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Ekon Bor
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:27:00 -
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Yay for fights that i dont have to travel 60 or so jumps for \0/ I'm happy to be +12 GMT , and hopefully get into some good lagfree pew pew
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:27:00 -
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A reply to Steel Rat and everyone else who doesn't understand the whole 'lag tactics' issue, and I will say this with as much sincerity and little vitriol as I humanly can.
Not once in the history of EVE Online have the servers supported all out warfare between the two largest forces. Not once. If you disagree, feel free to give me any date since May 5th 2003, I will give you two corp/alliance names that would cause the server to melt.
Improvements have been made, but they have just barely kept up with the steadily increasing growth of the game. The moment 50v50 becomes possible, everyone starts forming gangs of 100. Don't you think Kali will bring better performance as well as new customers?
It may be acceptable for you to wait, but we won't. Did you read the latest blog? There won't be any changes to POS warfare in Kali 1 whatsoever. That means waiting what.. another year until the next installment of Kali? The first one took two years alone.
This alliance was built for one purpose only: War.
The moment we put our weapons down, we become like everyone else. That is unacceptable. Like it or hate it, but we're doing you and EVE a huge favour by not making any further concessions. Enough is ENOUGH. At some point I'd like to stop throwing my fifteen bucks at CCP with the words "I hope". They will work hard to make it playable, or risk losing customers. Simple.
You've known Molle for how long now, Steel Rat? If you say you didn't know this already, I wouldn't believe you for a second.
Yes, every person on the face of this planet can predict there will be lag. There is lag with every fight. There are nodes being crashed even with NO fight. If the node goes down because you were fighting for your home, so be it. I wouldn't expect any less in fact. BoB leaders chose ASCN because they knew you would at least attempt a fight while other alliances simply use it as justification for their defeat.
The difference is, and this is crucial.. your leader has managed to go against everything ASCN and BoB (supposedly) stand for by disrespecting the game with deliberate attacks on the server's stability. This is NOT THE SAME as warping a fleet into our fleet and trying to have a fight or trying to defend your home. This is him suggesting they sit at POS doing nothing but dropping a bunch of crap. Drones and cans deployed from within a force field have zero combat relevance. Its not a part of any strategy of warfare that has ever existed in this game.
Since CYVOK made that blog, there has been numerous individual interpretations of what he "actually meant". Nothing but damage control, and if you believe our reading comprehension is that low you've managed to disrespect the enemy far more than him. Regarding us.. some people in BoB are laughing at this. Why not? CYVOK just contradicted two years worth of "honor" preaching. Others are genuinely dissapointed, because they believed the image/reputation of ASCN as an alliance that doesn't do these things. Most are shaking their heads.
The truth is I don't see ASCN doing these suggested "tactics" on a massive scale. But we both know that out of 5000 people it will be done simply because he okayed it. So we are condemning your leader for sending such a wholeheartedly stupid message.. not because there will be lag, or you will be causing it.. but because he is arrogant enough to think it will help him protect his empire.
CYVOK is a visionary, no doubt about it. He's been forming this 0.0 empire of his for a long time now,. He knew one day someone would come to challenge it. He took extra care to ensure the right attitudes were formed for his members.
Then at the eve of this Great Southern War, he forgets to keep his own fears in check and fumbles. Does he deserve leeway? Sure, given the amount he's done for ASCN. But jesus christ if he says stuff like that ever again.. impeach.
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:28:00 -
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I vote we call this war "The DigitalColunist Bruised Ego War"
(God if someone stuck a pin in THAT ego the universe woudl explode.)
Anyway it will be nice to see what happens when Bob attacks someone thats not in 7 other wars.
Let the Blob commence *sees about packing a bag for a journey to delve for some ratting*
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Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:30:00 -
[487]
Good luck all, hope we're invited at some stage
Best Regards
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:31:00 -
[488]
Finally!
I have been waiting for this, lets have some fun.... finally
I have very little doubt ASCN will retain all our space and all our stations once this is all over, if that is the case when hostilities end, I will claim Victory for ASCN. If we also hold stations in Bob space I will claim a resounding victory :)
What will it take for Bob to claim victory ?
I am just asking so we dont have to have another 30+ page thread discussing it afterwards :)
/Gil
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:31:00 -
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LOL. I've just spent the better part of 30minutes reading this thread from about page 10 to now. I've never actually seen so much kiddie smack (from both sides).
To those of you who are suggesting that we intend to crash nodes yada yada, we're not. It might not have been put across well, it may have sounded bad the way it was phrased "sending out 300 fighters should crash the node". That sounds out of order right? However, the phrase "Sending out 300 fighters WILL crash the node". That sounds fine to me. I think every person who read this as a friendly automatically changed the "should" to "will" in their heads without even thinking about it, thinking "Hey its probs gonna happen whether we like it or not", whereas our enemies read it as "should" and immediately got on the ole high horse shouting "ZOMG THEY IS GONNA CRASH TEH N0DE HAXXORZZZZ!!!!!1111". I'll also point out that CYVOK's grammar is bad. BAD. So if something has been interpretted one way by us and another way by you then we apologise, it was not meant like that. I personally want as much enjoyment as I can get out of this, hopefully CCP can enforce a few nodes coupled with some spread out warfare and we can have some fun. However, if lag becomes that big an issue that nodes crash, then unless you see us flying intys with shuttles containing BM's, then its most likely that its the current state of the server. But dont forget. You're attacking us at a time when the server state is dodgy at best, so dont blame us for wanting to defend our territory with any ship we can get in the sky.
I'll finish by saying that this is just my personal opinion and take on what i've read up to this point. Please dont flame me
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Yes, every person on the face of this planet can predict there will be lag. There is lag with every fight. There are nodes being crashed even with NO fight. If the node goes down because you were fighting for your home, so be it. I wouldn't expect any less in fact. BoB leaders chose ASCN because they knew you would at least attempt a fight while other alliances simply use it as justification for their defeat.
The difference is, and this is crucial.. your leader has managed to go against everything ASCN and BoB (supposedly) stand for by disrespecting the game with deliberate attacks on the server's stability. This is NOT THE SAME as warping a fleet into our fleet and trying to have a fight or trying to defend your home. This is him suggesting they sit at POS doing nothing but dropping a bunch of crap. Drones and cans deployed from within a force field have zero combat relevance. Its not a part of any strategy of warfare that has ever existed in this game.
Since CYVOK made that blog, there has been numerous individual interpretations of what he "actually meant". Nothing but damage control, and if you believe our reading comprehension is that low you've managed to disrespect the enemy far more than him. Regarding us.. some people in BoB are laughing at this. Why not? CYVOK just contradicted two years worth of "honor" preaching. Others are genuinely dissapointed, because they believed the image/reputation of ASCN as an alliance that doesn't do these things. Most are shaking their heads.
QFT
... if people can't understand the point Digi is trying to convey then they are beyond help.
Instead of trying to help alleviate the servers problems, Cyvok's reply in these forums and his blog demonstrate quite clearly that if things aren't going his way the servers are gonna die...
And thats very sad.
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EL TITAN
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:35:00 -
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i vote for someone to answer my question :(
what did cyvok/ascn decide to name their titan? I hope its a good name, or maybe im just too into caring about it ;x _________________________________________________ <3 hi |
Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:36:00 -
[492]
no, it's not EL TITAN in case you were hoping ;)
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:36:00 -
[493]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Then at the eve of this Great Southern War, he forgets to keep his own fears in check and fumbles. Does he deserve leeway? Sure, given the amount he's done for ASCN. But jesus christ if he says stuff like that ever again.. impeach.
Never!
I'd follow CYVOK even if he *cough* joined Burn Eden, went to Jita to smartbomb noobs or even joined BOB!
As for this "tactic", mentioned a month ago in relation to a different opponent who has used login exploits, bookmark exploits and other unsavory methods, I can only see it be used if we are down to 1 station (out of 20 or so? I can't keep track) and we are all in noob ships.
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Grainsalt
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:43:00 -
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Now this is why I play EVE. Finally, a fight worth fighting for. In a few months I won't be able to play as much as I like, this is what is gonna crown my game, a big a*s southern war, Fantastic. Thank You and good luck to all.
Respect.
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Hackett
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:45:00 -
[495]
Well - at least the forum seem more lively at last.
Luv all the posts asking what we are going to do. You know the the answer - it involves the sea... ;)
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Dark Destiny
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:45:00 -
[496]
Just don't roll over and die on us before we get there. Only thing you can be sure of in life is that you will die. |
MECHcore
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:46:00 -
[497]
ASCN give those bastids hell :)
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Chip2k3
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:47:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Grainsalt Now this is why I play EVE. Finally, a fight worth fighting for. In a few months I won't be able to play as much as I like, this is what is gonna crown my game, a big a*s southern war, Fantastic. Thank You and good luck to all.
Respect.
Me too. First kid on the way. tbh i dont even know how much i will get to play Eve once he/she is born which is why I'm looking forward to this so much. Its a chance to fight in one of the greatest battles that have/may ever happen. But the trolls, whiners and general ****ers are spoiling it for me. :'(
Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
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Calderio
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:50:00 -
[499]
may the blood flow red, i intend on gorging myself with it, this is gonna be a fun war. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RIP Kevin Wessel, Age 20, Departed April 19 2005, Baghdad |
Retnik
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 23:50:00 -
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LOL propaganda FTL. Anyways I am looking forward to some good fights with you BOB. Keep the smack down please, really it is not needed. If all you can do is be forum warriors that is fine, but you are better then that.
So in short don't sing it, bring it.
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Planek
Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:01:00 -
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and it begins. Hope we have good and respectable fights.
remember to fraps everything!!!! we gotta make a good video after the fights.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
If you disagree, feel free to give me any date since May 5th 2003, I will give you two corp/alliance names that would cause the server to melt.
May 6th 2003 December 25th 2003 January 18th 2004 April 1st 2004 November 26th 2004 Febuary 31st 2005 July 19th 2005 Febuary 21st 2006 September 28th 2006
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crocmore
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:08:00 -
[503]
in before 20th page -------------------------------------------------------
In the name of God, impure souls of the living dead shall be banished into damnation |
Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:08:00 -
[504]
Gl eve servers
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Crux Australis
Legionari
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:09:00 -
[505]
Originally by: Randay Febuary 31st 2005
I am *really* interested in this one !
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Relyen
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:15:00 -
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The Great Southern War begins soon....
I've watched the BoB video's, heard about your skills, and yet I've never known a single member of your alliance. Regardless, I've developed a huge amount of respect for BoB and the reputation it's achieved as the best PvP alliance in EVE.
It was watching one of your video's that got my into PvP.
Win or Lose, fighting in combat is the only true way to learn. So, fighting against BoB in combat will be one of the best combat learning experiences I will ever get in EVE. I can't wait to meet you in space.
But since I have my faith in ASCN & AXE. I believe that the sleeping giant will finally awaken. Relyen Dalamar Dirty Deeds Corp Axiom Empire |
Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:18:00 -
[507]
BoB attack us? nice, more targets.
HF and GL to both sides :-) ----------------------------------
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:18:00 -
[508]
This should make for some good reading.
WTB New Nodes ------------------------
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LodeArm
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:19:00 -
[509]
Best get some beers in then.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:25:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Randay
May 6th 2003 December 25th 2003 January 18th 2004 April 1st 2004 November 26th 2004 Febuary 31st 2005 July 19th 2005 Febuary 21st 2006 September 28th 2006
haha. <3 Outbreak.
Good luck ASCN, this is going to be a hell of a fight.
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Rukaz
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:26:00 -
[511]
Stop whinging and have a fight will ya!
Ruk
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Nagatok
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:28:00 -
[512]
node crashes iminent lol
good lcuk to both sides i suppose although BoB dont really deserve it due to the amount of smacktalk
DEFO good luck to ASCN and AXE im rooting for you guys
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:29:00 -
[513]
TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM LASER EXPLOSION, GO GO GO
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:30:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Gierling gut the character system and replace it with a simple box asking you what kind of role you want to play when you sign up.
I put "Space Gigolo". Still waiting on the content to be added though, I hear its coming 4 patches from now.
That would mean you get an Opux luxury yacht.
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00tricky
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:37:00 -
[515]
I'm so excited, I could cut glass with my nips
much fun to be had... oh so much fun
non suficit orbis
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:42:00 -
[516]
Edited by: Grimpak on 29/09/2006 00:42:32
Originally by: Kinsy TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM LASER EXPLOSION, GO GO GO
LET'S GO BOY EXPLOSIOUROUS (or smth like that) LASER! -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:46:00 -
[517]
Originally by: 00tricky I'm so excited, I could cut glass with my nips
much fun to be had... oh so much fun
TMI...TMI
*falls over*
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Tipz NexAstrum
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:55:00 -
[518]
I've got to re-read Cyvoks blog, I though he was talking about parking 30-40 carriers in a POS and sending out waves of fighters. Sometimes I wish that reading wasn't a chrisma based skill otherwise I'd have trained it past lvl 1.
Dear Bob, thank you! I'm a noob, but I trust that you will teach me the hard way how to PvP and I really look forward to it. If only strip miners did something other than a nasty rash... looks like it's time to train some real skills huh?
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:59:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Randay
May 6th 2003 - anyone using sensor damps (was down most of the day anyways) December 25th 2003 - CA vs SA January 18th 2004 - SA vs CA April 1st 2004 - FA vs CA November 26th 2004 - BoB vs FA Febuary 31st 2005- >:/ July 19th 2005 - 5ive vs F-E Febuary 21st 2006 - BoB vs ASCN September 28th 2006 - BoB vs ASCN
You couldn't be happy with one, could you.. ;/
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig DC, you have some good points, but in some posts you people seem to only imply you are going to send a lot of fleets to our space just looking for killmails and fights, in other posts it seems you are after our stations instead.
You might consider CYVOK post a fumble, but to me it means if anyone comes for our stations, the gloves are off.
Naturally assumed from the start, knocking out the ref however.. :]
Bored of this thread now, so lets bring on the fighting. Also I don't want more people getting ideas from Randay, I had to go through old maps :(
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:00:00 -
[520]
I sat here in front of this blank white box for about ten minutes trying to articulate what I was going to write about.
I've been playing MMORPG's for a pretty long time.
My first was Earth and Beyond, and I was absolutely crushed when I was notified they were killing it.
A bunch of the lads from ENB decided to give Eve a shot, and I've never looked back.
I drifted around from corporation to corporation trying to find someplace that really fit me, where I felt like I mattered.
I finally found Celestial Horizon. The CLS lads are a super bunch. The longer I was in, the more the circle of friends spread out into the other corporations in Ascendant Frontier.
In my 33 years of life in this planet including 7 years in the Marine Corps, I can tell you that some of the people in ASCN are the best friends I've had, even though I've never met them in real life.
Together we have spent countless hours mining, researching, hauling and defending our stars from those whom would take what we have built.
In each station in our space is a little piece of me, from all the hours of mining I did to get the ore together for the dozen outposts we have laid down.
In each POS is a little piece of me, from all the untold hours I spent Ice mining with the crews to stock up on resources.
Every jumpgate resonates with a little piece of me, from all the times I ferried goods to remote stations so there would be enough stock for my alliance mates so they wouldn't have to go so far to equip their ships.
Ascendant Frontier means everything to me. You're not going to diminish my pride in what we've accomplished with snappy forum posts.
You're not going to diminish my resolve to fight all of you to stop you from robbing everything we have built.
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
I like pie.
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nightjackel
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:02:00 -
[521]
I hope that this war is intense and smack free. Let games begin
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:06:00 -
[522]
Our corp would like to wish ASCN and BOB the best of luck. You both will witness the best fleet battles perhaps ever seen in EvE. ASCN will have the fun using the titan against BoB and BoB will have the fun of trying to destroy it. I think it's just wonderful you both and of around equal strength. In the end I think ASCN will still have there systems and BoB will still have there's. But for both Alliances I'd say enjoy yourselfs! You are both lucky to be able to do this having worked hard to get big and powerful today you both deserve to see some great fireworks. Hopefully the LAG won't be so bad.
Hope there is Fraps Movies and Pictures for us so we can follow along on this spectacular event! ---------------------------------------------
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Creamster
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:11:00 -
[523]
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48 If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
Crappy node we'll crash it? You sir should be banned asap tbh ___________ In LAG we trust |
Otto Torivus
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:22:00 -
[524]
Bob comes every day. Bob & ASCN fight every day. More targets are good. I might get a kill today. I may die to day. Life is a journey to death. Might as well run the last mile.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:23:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Creamster
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48 If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
Crappy node we'll crash it? You sir should be banned asap tbh
Another lecture by AAA on how game mechanics shouldnt be abused...
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:29:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Otto Torivus Bob comes every day. Bob & ASCN fight every day. More targets are good. I might get a kill today. I may die to day. Life is a journey to death. Might as well run the last mile.
Just my own opinion but keep the band wagon at home assoicating with some of those people truly would lower us.
good enough for a quote..
fun times all around.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
DeltaH
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:31:00 -
[527]
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
i think u will find thats actually mine.
d solo.
I've been waiting for that since page 2!
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I don't understand this whole betrayal discussion going on. PVP doesn't mean you hate everyone not blue, you just shoot them, two different things. When in UK I shot (at/by) CVA and PIE and I have much respect for those dirty slaver pilots.
-DeltaH
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:35:00 -
[528]
toot toot ----------------- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
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Hectic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:37:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig DC, you have some good points, but in some posts you people seem to only imply you are going to send a lot of fleets to our space just looking for killmails and fights, in other posts it seems you are after our stations instead.
You might consider CYVOK post a fumble, but to me it means if anyone comes for our stations, the gloves are off.
Attacking someones stations does NOT justify using lag tactics mate. Station sieges do happen. I wish ASCN would sit down and figure out once and for all their stance on these tactics so half you leaders will not be posting here saying things contray to the other half.
RIP MGRL |
Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:51:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Gungankllr I sat here in front of this blank white box for about ten minutes trying to articulate what I was going to write about.
I've been playing MMORPG's for a pretty long time.
My first was Earth and Beyond, and I was absolutely crushed when I was notified they were killing it.
A bunch of the lads from ENB decided to give Eve a shot, and I've never looked back.
I drifted around from corporation to corporation trying to find someplace that really fit me, where I felt like I mattered.
I finally found Celestial Horizon. The CLS lads are a super bunch. The longer I was in, the more the circle of friends spread out into the other corporations in Ascendant Frontier.
In my 33 years of life in this planet including 7 years in the Marine Corps, I can tell you that some of the people in ASCN are the best friends I've had, even though I've never met them in real life.
Together we have spent countless hours mining, researching, hauling and defending our stars from those whom would take what we have built.
In each station in our space is a little piece of me, from all the hours of mining I did to get the ore together for the dozen outposts we have laid down.
In each POS is a little piece of me, from all the untold hours I spent Ice mining with the crews to stock up on resources.
Every jumpgate resonates with a little piece of me, from all the times I ferried goods to remote stations so there would be enough stock for my alliance mates so they wouldn't have to go so far to equip their ships.
Ascendant Frontier means everything to me. You're not going to diminish my pride in what we've accomplished with snappy forum posts.
You're not going to diminish my resolve to fight all of you to stop you from robbing everything we have built.
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
o> Respect
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Lag Fest
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:53:00 -
[531]
BoB pilots after reading molles post: HELL YEAH!!! LETS PHEW PHEW SOME STUFF!!!
ASCN pilots after readin molles post: OH CRAP, THERE GOES THE TITAN!
GMs after reading molles post: OH NO, BETTER START WORKING OVERTIME!
GL to everyone involved and HF, may the Gimpforce be with you! _______________________________________
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TURBOman
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:53:00 -
[532]
Here we go \o/
Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S |
RahSun
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:54:00 -
[533]
Duel my main!!! oh wait...wrong game For the Horde!!! ...damn it...wrong again SUICIDE KESSIES FTW!!! ...grr...that worked 3 years ago...
OK I'll make the first move... e2 e4 ...now we're talking!!!
Look forward to seeing you guys again...I always enjoy a good chess game with skilled opponents.
-Rah
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:00:00 -
[534]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Yes, every person on the face of this planet can predict there will be lag. There is lag with every fight. There are nodes being crashed even with NO fight. If the node goes down because you were fighting for your home, so be it. I wouldn't expect any less in fact. BoB leaders chose ASCN because they knew you would at least attempt a fight while other alliances simply use it as justification for their defeat.
The difference is, and this is crucial.. your leader has managed to go against everything ASCN and BoB (supposedly) stand for by disrespecting the game with deliberate attacks on the server's stability. This is NOT THE SAME as warping a fleet into our fleet and trying to have a fight or trying to defend your home. This is him suggesting they sit at POS doing nothing but dropping a bunch of crap. Drones and cans deployed from within a force field have zero combat relevance. Its not a part of any strategy of warfare that has ever existed in this game.
Since CYVOK made that blog, there has been numerous individual interpretations of what he "actually meant". Nothing but damage control, and if you believe our reading comprehension is that low you've managed to disrespect the enemy far more than him. Regarding us.. some people in BoB are laughing at this. Why not? CYVOK just contradicted two years worth of "honor" preaching. Others are genuinely dissapointed, because they believed the image/reputation of ASCN as an alliance that doesn't do these things. Most are shaking their heads.
QFT
... if people can't understand the point Digi is trying to convey then they are beyond help.
Instead of trying to help alleviate the servers problems, Cyvok's reply in these forums and his blog demonstrate quite clearly that if things aren't going his way the servers are gonna die...
And thats very sad.
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Nez Perces
And thats very sad.
You are sad. Go away troll.
Both Digi and Nez make good points and I don't consider that trolling.
Personally I hope the server isn't affected negatively from it but I don't hold out too much hope. I just hope all those involved keep in mind what the server can handle and dont abuse it because what you do here doesnt just affect you it can effect all of EVE.
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VinLieger
Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:05:00 -
[535]
This is possibly the fastest replied to thread in the least time. Well done BoB full respect especially to the fact that you still can own the corp/alliance forum with just one post -----------------------
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Sith Emperor
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:17:00 -
[536]
I normally don't post here, so this is extremely rare. No, I'm not anyone important, within ASCN or my corp. Just a grunt, that's all. However, I have to post, tonight, since so many people have made much over a month old post, by CYVOK, on ASCN forums. No, I'm not his or anyone else's alt and this is my only character, so don't start with that, either. In my entire time, in CLS and ASCN, I have never seen CYVOK or anyone else, in ASCN condone the use of lame tactics. The posting in question, truly does not have anything to do with BoB or any member corporations within BoB. Why it was posted, to begin with, was the self-same tactics, that a completely different alliance was using, against ASCN, in days/weeks previous to the post. (Pauses to get another beer)
Much better. Where was I? Oh, yes. The post. I have to wonder at a spy that would, only now, post such a thing, here. Perhaps, BoB and ASCN are being had. The original date for that blog/post is 21 August. What possible bearing does it have, now? The alliance in question, if they knew about it, never brought it here. To drive a wedge, between people that have known and respected each other, in game and perhaps, real life, for 2-3 years? Probably. CYVOK forbade the use of the tactics mentioned, against all but one alliance and only allowed or, I should say, was going to allow the use of them, if and only if, said alliance attacked ASCN. It didn't happen. As an alliance, ASCN has never used these tactics, nor am I aware of any corp CEO's that condone their use. I have never heard of BoB or any corp in BoB using them, either.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:20:00 -
[537]
pew pew... rat-ta-ta-tat ... ra-ta-ta-tat... pew pew pew pew.... fwoosh... fwoooosh... pew... rat-ta-ta-tat...BOOM!.. rar-ta-ta-tat...pewpew... fwoosh fwoosh... KABLOOOOOOOM!
Sounds like fun to me.
Thanks BoB! __________
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Tadamitsu
Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:22:00 -
[538]
Dear GOD.. someone owes me 30 minutes of my life back to me, for all the smack.
/salute to Steel and Cyvok..
This makes me happy BoB actually engage and fight. Have not had many fun fights since the g/iron/trust war.
/bow to BoB to my noble and worthy opponents, cya soon. Solar Storm CEO Want to join the storm?
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eleuthereus
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:26:00 -
[539]
Dear BoB,
When I first started this game back in 2005, not too long ago, I heard many great things about your alliance. I had hoped to one day join you. Even after I became a member of ASCN, I thought very highly of you, which is why it was my pleasure to join with you against our common enemies in EC. It was a great operation.
But I must confess, I do not know what has happened to you. What misguided counselors have been tickling the ears of yourleaders with unwise words? Or, perhaps, it is actually your leaders themselves who have gotten arrogant, prideful, boastful, full of resentment, and consumed by petty jealousy. As the old saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. And sadly, you seem to have gotten quite rotten rather quickly over the last few months. Then, again, maybe you were always rotten as you now finally appear for all to see.
And your ludicrous posts here only prove that too many Bobbits resemble, for lack of a better expression, jerks. My perosnal opinion -- I do not speak for ASCN. The posts are ricidiculous, primarily because seems that very few BoB propagandists here can actually read a comment by CYVOK and understand it. You all remind me somewhat of religious cultists, who only see and hear what they want to see and hear in order to justify/excuse their actions, which in reality have no legitimate excuses or justifications.
So, you want war war war? Fine. very well. Good. You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
I LONG to meet you on the field of battle. You may not realize it yet, but those blood stains on your "BAND OF BROTHERS" offical announcement belong to you -- and more will follow. You will never be the same after it is all over. Never. But you will be able to rest in the knowledge that it was your choice to do it to yourselves.
Good luck. No hard feelings. And, oh, make sure you have your clones up-to-date.
Long Live ASCN, eleuthereus
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:27:00 -
[540]
This was will be decided in the first couple of weeks fought.
By then, both sides will know where it is headed.
I don't believe for one second that this will be as big as the Great Northern War. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
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TURBOman
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:28:00 -
[541]
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB,
When I first started this game back in 2005, not too long ago, I heard many great things about your alliance. I had hoped to one day join you. Even after I became a member of ASCN, I thought very highly of you, which is why it was my pleasure to join with you against our common enemies in EC. It was a great operation.
But I must confess, I do not know what has happened to you. What misguided counselors have been tickling the ears of yourleaders with unwise words? Or, perhaps, it is actually your leaders themselves who have gotten arrogant, prideful, boastful, full of resentment, and consumed by petty jealousy. As the old saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. And sadly, you seem to have gotten quite rotten rather quickly over the last few months. Then, again, maybe you were always rotten as you now finally appear for all to see.
And your ludicrous posts here only prove that too many Bobbits resemble, for lack of a better expression, jerks. My perosnal opinion -- I do not speak for ASCN. The posts are ricidiculous, primarily because seems that very few BoB propagandists here can actually read a comment by CYVOK and understand it. You all remind me somewhat of religious cultists, who only see and hear what they want to see and hear in order to justify/excuse their actions, which in reality have no legitimate excuses or justifications.
So, you want war war war? Fine. very well. Good. You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
I LONG to meet you on the field of battle. You may not realize it yet, but those blood stains on your "BAND OF BROTHERS" offical announcement belong to you -- and more will follow. You will never be the same after it is all over. Never. But you will be able to rest in the knowledge that it was your choice to do it to yourselves.
Good luck. No hard feelings. And, oh, make sure you have your clones up-to-date.
Long Live ASCN, eleuthereus
Dude it's a game, we're bad and mean and we gonna get you, enjoy ;)
Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:29:00 -
[542]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/09/2006 02:30:06
Originally by: Sith Emperor As an alliance, ASCN has never used these tactics, nor am I aware of any corp CEO's that condone their use. I have never heard of BoB or any corp in BoB using them, either.
Whilst what you are saying is fine, that does not square up to what your beloved leader posted on this very thread..
Originally by: Cyvok If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next door... Well, which woudl you choose?
Maybe Cyvok is plain out of touch with the membership of the alliance he is leading?... because it does very much sound like the majority of ASCN posters in this thread would not condone any tactics that would purposefully impair the performance of the EVE servers.
.. and those that would call me a troll, spare me I've heard it all before..
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Neurosis
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:33:00 -
[543]
Originally by: Creamster
Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 28/09/2006 20:16:48 If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
You should convo someone in goon to make sure you know how to perform it properly. _________________________________________________
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tbow10
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:34:00 -
[544]
and this is why i pay my fee's. Lets have some fun :) |
Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:39:00 -
[545]
lame tactics ftl. Cyvok you made yourself look very dumb with that last statement.
I'm actually rooting for BoB, ewww
In rust we trust!!! |
welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:40:00 -
[546]
BoB are a tough cookie but they aren't invulnerable.
Sort out your FC's ASCN, and be unpredictable.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:41:00 -
[547]
Quote: It would be funny as h3ll if all this was a propaganda ploy and BoB appeared somewhere totally different on the map... say D2 space or somethingShocked
Their movements this eve before the big one would say otherwise
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:41:00 -
[548]
I'm left feeling... underwhelmed.
BoB are a good PvP alliance of experience players.
However, it has been proved time and time again that when they go up against other experienced PvPers (Some of the G alliance corps, Outbreak, Celestial Apocalypse etc) their kill stats suddenly start looking distinctly average.
Now, assuming ASCN are the targets (has this been confirmed?) it will be interesting, as BoB have fewer numbers although ASCN are quite industrially focused for the most part. BoB are more cohesive, with fewer corps and many pure PvPers. ASCN are a hybrid alliance with a lot of younger players.
The outcome will likely be a stalemate if anything.
BoB are good at massaging their egos on the forums, but they only really have impressive kill/loss stats against softer targets (the recent Goon and Huzzah campaigns come to mind). They had to abandon their old GIRON roadtrip up North with some very average kill/loss ratios, and recent fighting with TOXIN proved once again they are far from invincible.
Have fun all. Enjoy the lag.
-------- On vacation from ISSN |
Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:46:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Sith Emperor In my entire time, in CLS and ASCN, I have never seen CYVOK or anyone else, in ASCN condone the use of lame tactics.
CYVOK forbade the use of the tactics mentioned, against all but one alliance and only allowed or, I should say, was going to allow the use of them, if and only if, said alliance attacked ASCN. It didn't happen.
So you're saying CYVOK actually DID allow those tactics to be used conditionally? And if that alliance attacked, the tactics would have been used.
You're justifying his words by saying that allowing it against only 1 alliance is somehow acceptable, while allowing it in general is not? That's ridiculous and the mention of it already ruined his reputation as this honest leader. The end result would still be a crashed node, regardless of the people involved.
I swear to god, you ASCN forum *****s should put "brainwashed by CYVOK" in all your bios. òòòòòòòòòòòò
VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:52:00 -
[550]
Quote: So you're saying CYVOK actually DID allow those tactics to be used conditionally? And if that alliance attacked, the tactics would have been used.
Not at all. I believe his intimation was if said alliance used said tactics against us, that until GMs expressly stated what said alliance had done was an exploit we were ok to use them...in that situation only.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:55:00 -
[551]
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB,
When I first started this game back in 2005, not too long ago, I heard many great things about your alliance. I had hoped to one day join you. Even after I became a member of ASCN, I thought very highly of you, which is why it was my pleasure to join with you against our common enemies in EC. It was a great operation.
But I must confess, I do not know what has happened to you. What misguided counselors have been tickling the ears of yourleaders with unwise words? Or, perhaps, it is actually your leaders themselves who have gotten arrogant, prideful, boastful, full of resentment, and consumed by petty jealousy. As the old saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. And sadly, you seem to have gotten quite rotten rather quickly over the last few months. Then, again, maybe you were always rotten as you now finally appear for all to see.
And your ludicrous posts here only prove that too many Bobbits resemble, for lack of a better expression, jerks. My perosnal opinion -- I do not speak for ASCN. The posts are ricidiculous, primarily because seems that very few BoB propagandists here can actually read a comment by CYVOK and understand it. You all remind me somewhat of religious cultists, who only see and hear what they want to see and hear in order to justify/excuse their actions, which in reality have no legitimate excuses or justifications.
So, you want war war war? Fine. very well. Good. You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
I LONG to meet you on the field of battle. You may not realize it yet, but those blood stains on your "BAND OF BROTHERS" offical announcement belong to you -- and more will follow. You will never be the same after it is all over. Never. But you will be able to rest in the knowledge that it was your choice to do it to yourselves.
Good luck. No hard feelings. And, oh, make sure you have your clones up-to-date.
Long Live ASCN, eleuthereus
Sit back and enjoy the ride.... Most of the time when you fight a group in game its a good learning experience... just treat these forums with a grain of salt cause that all that things posted on the forums deserve.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:03:00 -
[552]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/09/2006 03:05:35
Originally by: Farham
Not at all. I believe his intimation was if said alliance used said tactics against us, that until GMs expressly stated what said alliance had done was an exploit we were ok to use them...in that situation only.
aah.. comeon.. you ASCN guys really know how to really keep digging holes for yourselves... did you even read what you just wrote?
For starters it barely makes sense and secondly in a roundabout way you are just confirming what any person with basic reading skills garnered from Cyvok's blog... and that is that if attacked en-force by -AAA-/Reds, node crashing on purpose *was* authorised.
Cyvok's post on *this* thread, further confirmed that this is a possiblity with BoB also, because if ASCN leadership feels it is getting shafted by server performance, they *will* again authorise node crashing.
The only way ASCN can make this go away is by issuing an official statement that such tactics are not being considered *at all*, whatever the circumstances.
.. yeah the server performance atm is unsatisfactory, yes there are problems with Tranquility, but that should NEVER mean you can take things into your own hands and use your considerable manpower to make things worse on purpose.
If EVE is about winning by crashing the server, then there is little no point in playing at all.
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:04:00 -
[553]
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB,
When I first started this game back in 2005, not too long ago, I heard many great things about your alliance. I had hoped to one day join you. Even after I became a member of ASCN, I thought very highly of you, which is why it was my pleasure to join with you against our common enemies in EC. It was a great operation.
But I must confess, I do not know what has happened to you. What misguided counselors have been tickling the ears of yourleaders with unwise words? Or, perhaps, it is actually your leaders themselves who have gotten arrogant, prideful, boastful, full of resentment, and consumed by petty jealousy. As the old saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. And sadly, you seem to have gotten quite rotten rather quickly over the last few months. Then, again, maybe you were always rotten as you now finally appear for all to see.
And your ludicrous posts here only prove that too many Bobbits resemble, for lack of a better expression, jerks. My perosnal opinion -- I do not speak for ASCN. The posts are ricidiculous, primarily because seems that very few BoB propagandists here can actually read a comment by CYVOK and understand it. You all remind me somewhat of religious cultists, who only see and hear what they want to see and hear in order to justify/excuse their actions, which in reality have no legitimate excuses or justifications.
So, you want war war war? Fine. very well. Good. You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
I LONG to meet you on the field of battle. You may not realize it yet, but those blood stains on your "BAND OF BROTHERS" offical announcement belong to you -- and more will follow. You will never be the same after it is all over. Never. But you will be able to rest in the knowledge that it was your choice to do it to yourselves.
Good luck. No hard feelings. And, oh, make sure you have your clones up-to-date.
Long Live ASCN, eleuthereus
what's wrong with attacking people without provacation?
In rust we trust!!! |
Voltron
Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:09:00 -
[554]
LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!
Volt
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:15:00 -
[555]
Quote: For starters it barely makes sense and secondly in a roundabout way you are just confirming what any person with basic reading skills garnered from Cyvok's blog... and that is that if attacked en-force by -AAA-/Reds, node crashing on purpose *was* authorised.
I guess you just want to read things the way you want. Just looking over the full posting of his original blog from August it is pretty clear who, what and why.
Your trolling skills are good, but not great.
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Bigeasy
Caldari Shadow Of The Light
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:20:00 -
[556]
Edited by: Bigeasy on 29/09/2006 03:20:52 Wow, this fight is going to take the server down faster than an unwanted pregnancy on prom night.
Good luck to both sides, and remember...between you salvos of doom, be sure to have fun too, some people forget its a game.
Cheers!
Big
Brotherhood of Light. Small Corp, Big Fun. Wanna join?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:20:00 -
[557]
Originally by: Farham
I guess you just want to read things the way you want. Just looking over the full posting of his original blog from August it is pretty clear who, what and why.
Your trolling skills are good, but not great.
K .... it seems that complicated sentences are too much for either of us to read without turning them into something else...
Lets try something *really* *really* simple...
Does ASCN leadership authorise premeditated node crashing? ... whichever the circumstances..
YES or NO
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Kantide
Trioptimum Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:51:00 -
[558]
I'm in the GSW thread! \o/
But seriously, GL to both parties, I've got respect for each of you. Lets be honest though, intentional or not, lag is going to make this fight half of what it should be.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:09:00 -
[559]
All hail darth solo king of the realm of Fountain, aka 'darth solo's cattle pleasure paradise'. -----------------
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Scarcus
Caldari Bre-X
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:30:00 -
[560]
Good luck ASCN. "A Titan against a Titan(s)!" - some witch from Clash of Titans.
A frequent star in God's cosmic gag-reel. Sig removed. Inappropriate for the forums -Kaemonn |
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:31:00 -
[561]
Originally by: Gungankllr I sat here in front of this blank white box for about ten minutes trying to articulate what I was going to write about.
Together we have spent countless hours mining, researching, hauling and defending our stars from those whom would take what we have built.
In each station in our space is a little piece of me, from all the hours of mining I did to get the ore together for the dozen outposts we have laid down.
In each POS is a little piece of me, from all the untold hours I spent Ice mining with the crews to stock up on resources.
Every jumpgate resonates with a little piece of me, from all the times I ferried goods to remote stations so there would be enough stock for my alliance mates so they wouldn't have to go so far to equip their ships.
Ascendant Frontier means everything to me. You're not going to diminish my pride in what we've accomplished with snappy forum posts.
You're not going to diminish my resolve to fight all of you to stop you from robbing everything we have built.
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
Respect.
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:34:00 -
[562]
you are coming for our homespace and this cannot be allowed see you in the field and good fights to all
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nickky01
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:37:00 -
[563]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Farham
I guess you just want to read things the way you want. Just looking over the full posting of his original blog from August it is pretty clear who, what and why.
Your trolling skills are good, but not great.
K .... it seems that complicated sentences are too much for either of us to read without turning them into something else...
Lets try something *really* *really* simple...
Does ASCN leadership authorise premeditated node crashing? ... whichever the circumstances..
YES or NO
i'd say NO
what i dont understand is if those orders were really given, you'd see a BIG drop in membership of ASCN and AXE...at least i'd hope so = |
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Hinkledolph
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:42:00 -
[564]
Kinda funny hearing some of the ASCN guys whining about unprovoked attacks.
Have you forgotton taking Paragon Soul and refusing to let people haul out what they had out of spite?
What goes around comes around. :P
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Drakma
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:53:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Hinkledolph Kinda funny hearing some of the ASCN guys whining about unprovoked attacks.
Have you forgotton taking Paragon Soul and refusing to let people haul out what they had out of spite?
What goes around comes around. :P
adj. Not provoked or prompted: an unprovoked attack.
pro+voke (pr-vk) Pronunciation Key tr.v. pro+voked, pro+vok+ing, pro+vokes
- To incite to anger or resentment.
To stir to action or feeling. To give rise to; evoke: provoke laughter. To bring about deliberately; induce: provoke a fight.
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:54:00 -
[566]
Those of us not being directly affected by this war wonders: How can we exploit it?
I hope BoB and ASCN leaders are both well versed in the Art of War. Here are a few quotes that I feel are of relevance:
"Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities."
"Hence a wise general makes a point of foraging on the enemy. One cartload of the enemy's provisions is equivalent to twenty of one's own, and likewise a single picul of his provender is equivalent to twenty from one's own store."
"For should the enemy strengthen his van, he will weaken his rear; should he strengthen his rear, he will weaken his van; should he strengthen his left, he will weaken his right; should he strengthen his right, he will weaken his left. If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak.
Numerical weakness comes from having to prepare against possible attacks; numerical strength, from compelling our adversary to make these preparations against us."
"Maneuvering with an army is advantageous; with an undisciplined multitude, most dangerous."
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IMO - BoB is theoretically at the disadvantage for this war. Not only do they have to worry about defending their own territory, but they must also lay siege to ASCN. This means that BoB will potentially be weakened in their home, making it a tasty treat for pirates and shady alliances. If a couple alliances in the north decide to attack BoB in it's (theoretically) weakened state, BoB may end up fighting 2 wars on opposite ends of the galaxy. This would be a SEVERE disadvantage, as it takes time to ferry ships and supplies from one place to another. BoB would have to constantly shift troops from one battlefield to the other.
However, this could be prevented if BoB maintains a strong presence in their regions - at least giving the impression of a tough nut to ***** will scare away the vultures, so to speak.
The problem for ASCN will be reacting to BoB's sieges quickly enough. The moment BoB enters a system in force, ASCN needs to be ready to defend within mere minutes. The longer the POS is unguarded, the faster it will go POP. ASCN needs to also understand that they will lose systems. The key is, how to turn the loss of a system, into the victory of the war.
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ElweSingollo
Starlancers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:56:00 -
[567]
All I can say is good luck ASCN and my former comrades in EDF if BoB do the unthinkable and conquer ascn space this game becomes pointless tbh..... so give em hell.
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Sith Emperor
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:06:00 -
[568]
Originally by: Sadist Edited by: Sadist on 29/09/2006 02:46:23
Originally by: Sith Emperor In my entire time, in CLS and ASCN, I have never seen CYVOK or anyone else, in ASCN condone the use of lame tactics.
CYVOK forbade the use of the tactics mentioned, against all but one alliance and only allowed or, I should say, was going to allow the use of them, if and only if, said alliance attacked ASCN. It didn't happen.
So you're saying CYVOK actually DID allow those tactics to be used conditionally? And if that alliance attacked, the tactics would have been used.
You're justifying his words by saying that allowing it against only 1 alliance is somehow acceptable, while allowing it in general is not? That's ridiculous and the mention of it already ruined his reputation as this honest leader. The end result would still be a crashed node, regardless of the people involved.
I swear to god, you ASCN forum *****s should put "brainwashed by CYVOK" in all your bios.
P.S. And I have a feeling you'll have to add "sponsored by BoB" to it very soon.
Before you start flaming individuals, perhaps you should check up and see if what they claim is true, my 'forum whoring', if you will, now amounts to a grand total of 10 posts, in 18 months. You, sir, have a problem and owe me an apology.
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Firane
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:13:00 -
[569]
Thinking about this more and more, it will be interesting to see what happens. Both ASCN and BoB are deeply rooted in their home regions via POS and outposts. It will be great if it isn't a complete POS stalemate a month from now. However I think it will be - to an extent that the problem becomes more apparent to CCP. Maybe thats a good thing.
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James Britanicus
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:15:00 -
[570]
Originally by: HordeZla too much to read in such a short time....
Have fun to the hostiles, lets keep it smack free, I have been given a global muting
Hahaha .............me too!!!!
Funny, 21 pages of ****e to say a few simple words.
Lets have as much fun as possible till the node's die
And please keep it smack free ****************************************************************
He thinks he is Uber, if you don't believe me, just ask him :)
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:23:00 -
[571]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist impeach
You're like the Republicans here trying to convince the Democrats to get rid of CLinton over some imagined wrongdoing.
We will follow Cyvok to hell and back, and its pretty pathetic to be honest to try and sow dissent in our ranks on your part. What, are you afraid? You know you can't defeat us from the outside so you're trying to seed a little doubt in our ranks about Cyvok?
Won't work buddy.
We see through your marketing trickery. You tricky bastard (<-- Foamy quote)
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BA Barrakas
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:36:00 -
[572]
Edited by: BA Barrakas on 29/09/2006 05:40:21
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB,
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
I do the pittying around here. I pitty those who would use lame tactics. I sincerely hope that node crashing is abandoned in favor of a good clean fight.
EDIT: cause I apparently can't constuct a proper sentence ______________________ You play with the snake, and are suprised when you get bit?
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BA Barrakas
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:38:00 -
[573]
Edited by: BA Barrakas on 29/09/2006 05:38:43 interesting double post... we'll see how it develops.
______________________ You play with the snake, and are suprised when you get bit?
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Brother Theos
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:39:00 -
[574]
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB, You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
*cough* Tribal Souls *cough*
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Rolled
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:42:00 -
[575]
Edited by: Rolled on 29/09/2006 05:43:28 I am getting a kick how ASCN is going to be responsible for node crashes in this war.
buwahahahaha.
And I have to echo the sentiments of the poster above. I am never leaving this area.
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Primer Xenius
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:42:00 -
[576]
Was one of the first to live down here.. I've had a lot of egos over the years try to push me out...
I'll still be here when it ends. Its about staying power. Are you prepared to fight for 6 months or a year or more for this space. You better be.
CLS-FLEET-ASCN
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:50:00 -
[577]
Originally by: BA Barrakas EDIT: cause I apparently can't constuct a proper sentence
you're CYVOK's BoB alt arent you? or is cyvok your alt? in any case:
Originally by: CYVOK
Edit because; I cannot spell I cannot type I cannot form a sentance
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:51:00 -
[578]
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Gungankllr I sat here in front of this blank white box for about ten minutes trying to articulate what I was going to write about.
Together we have spent countless hours mining, researching, hauling and defending our stars from those whom would take what we have built.
In each station in our space is a little piece of me, from all the hours of mining I did to get the ore together for the dozen outposts we have laid down.
In each POS is a little piece of me, from all the untold hours I spent Ice mining with the crews to stock up on resources.
Every jumpgate resonates with a little piece of me, from all the times I ferried goods to remote stations so there would be enough stock for my alliance mates so they wouldn't have to go so far to equip their ships.
Ascendant Frontier means everything to me. You're not going to diminish my pride in what we've accomplished with snappy forum posts.
You're not going to diminish my resolve to fight all of you to stop you from robbing everything we have built.
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
Respect.
Theres something that a lot of people don't get about ASCN, and that's that we are rather invested into our little adventure because of the friendships afforded and forged during the process of making it. I suspect while we were forming these bonds building outposts BoB was doing the same while burning things.
Thats why this is such an interesting and potentially dramatic (in the fun way) war, because you have the two tightest organizations in EVE trying to pull at each others stitches.
I don't Hate BoB for attacking us (Like I said you are at least honost and that is all we ask), indeed I understand BoB's motivations. The real old Gaurd in Bob seems to me the type that loves to do great things, and accepts difficult challenges. As this effort proves over time BoB has come to see ASCN as such an entrenched entity that it would require a GREAT effort to remove them.
I'm proud to warrant such attention, and I look forward to seeing the absolutely Epic conflict that will unfold in this little "Operation Unstoppable force vs Unmoveable object".
Another way to think about it is that your average Alliance member makes about a million isk an hour, using that as a barometer ASCN is the product of (looking at all of the Alliances capitol assets, outposts etc) of a little more then a million man hours of labor. Thats plenty of time to make fast freindships and get attached to the alliance.
So Salud, and let the unstoppable force come to the unmoveable object. We are waiting.
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Drakma
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:04:00 -
[579]
Originally by: Brother Theos
Originally by: eleuthereus Dear BoB, You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
*cough* Tribal Souls *cough*
*cough* Hypocrisy *cough*
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:37:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Crucifier
I thought all you guys did was die?
I thought all you did was ss and exploit?
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Acan
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:38:00 -
[581]
Mom! I am in bob thread.
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ProphetGuru
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:40:00 -
[582]
The funniest thing here is watching people get worked up over nothing, and make assumptions.
BoB announced it was going to war. It did not list any objectives. It did not say ACSN would be destroyed... We have made little known.
ACSN fights back. They have always been pretty straight forward with us, and are a big challenge. We like big challenges.
As far as "the type of players we are" whatever... We haven't changed our attitudes since beta... pretending otherwise is self deception.
Those complaining about the blog, on both sides really.... stfu you both look retarded and given our alliances history it is just really poor forum to complain about a tactic that hasn't been used.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:02:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Gungankllr I sat here in front of this blank white box for about ten minutes trying to articulate what I was going to write about.
Together we have spent countless hours mining, researching, hauling and defending our stars from those whom would take what we have built.
In each station in our space is a little piece of me, from all the hours of mining I did to get the ore together for the dozen outposts we have laid down.
In each POS is a little piece of me, from all the untold hours I spent Ice mining with the crews to stock up on resources.
Every jumpgate resonates with a little piece of me, from all the times I ferried goods to remote stations so there would be enough stock for my alliance mates so they wouldn't have to go so far to equip their ships.
Ascendant Frontier means everything to me. You're not going to diminish my pride in what we've accomplished with snappy forum posts.
You're not going to diminish my resolve to fight all of you to stop you from robbing everything we have built.
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
Now THAT is a post!
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Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:04:00 -
[584]
Thread cleaned.
Remember "I'M IN A BOB THREAD" is spam and will be treated as such.
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Vardemis
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:13:00 -
[585]
We will fight. You can destroy, we will fight. You can blob, we will fight. You can hide, we will fight. You can smack, we will fight. You can spy, we will fight. But you cannot win. You cannot make us leave. This is our home. û We will fight!
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Martini20
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:18:00 -
[586]
Edited by: Martini20 on 29/09/2006 07:18:45 Edited by: Martini20 on 29/09/2006 07:18:24
May the Best win. GL Guys and have fun and no Lag
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EeViLbOrNe ChIlDhAsPaWnD
Ridin' Dirty Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:19:00 -
[587]
Could we possbily get movies from BoB to be posted as theyre Universal War continues?
I imagine Bob attacking every parsec of this universe at the same time ro within days of eachother. I do not fear BoB. They can come after me... but if it is just me, I will go out in a blaze of glory. Just fight fair is all I say. No unhonorable tactics. You will just be laughed out of the system.
I just remind you, do not weaken any line to have a better advantage in an assault. And dont run if your outnumbered... thats just being a chicken.
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:22:00 -
[588]
So the devs and Gm`s have some spare time ?
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:27:00 -
[589]
Anybody interested in throwing out some wild cards to this game?
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:45:00 -
[590]
wtf ??? i go to bed and while i dream about exotic dancers and the damsel, sirmolle makes a post, with 22 sites of replies already ?
damn....
erm. well GL toall involved, may the lag-monster be the first who dies
...nerf wcs...
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:02:00 -
[591]
Edited by: Evelyn Exe on 29/09/2006 08:04:58 meh I shouldn't add to the crap in here.
So gf and have fun.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:09:00 -
[592]
Originally by: Evelyn Exe edited.
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C4w3
Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:11:00 -
[593]
Well a thing that comes to mind are the great CA wars and what it brought into the wars pretty much entire south slugging it out. (EVE need a BIG ISK sink imho)
(Would love seeing big slaughter battles without lag, without nodes dropping, ill even come to England to help load balancing the servers, ill bring Cribba and the old Crew)
CCP you got a great game, help it to grow by trying to get as much laag free servers as possible pretty please.
Well 10:00 here thats beer time for me. --> Got 3 month then shipping out again, perhaps i meet blood in the worlds most crappy country. [Rangers we strike first and let the Tanks do the rest]
Good luck Molle, BOB, ASCN and Cyvok.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I¦ll just kill em all!" |
TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:12:00 -
[594]
Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 29/09/2006 08:12:53 The Sausage factory. "The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate And The Bratwurst Burglars"
Pledge ourselves to Provide the finest meat Produce in the south during this campaign. Our PORK and MEAT is the finest in EvE. Coming to a region near you.
Where theres War theres a need for meat.
Good luck to all those concerned, May the meat be with you.
"Have you had your protein quota for the day"
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Grim Savage
Caldari The Grim Reaper Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:15:00 -
[595]
Greetings fighters on all three sides. (That is Bob's side, ASCN's and the side drinking kerozine and ****ing on the fire)
There have been talks of lag here. Lag-exploits. Can any of you remember that someone wanted freighters to drop loot cans if destroyed? That was to be implemented, and any protest given against the 'impact' of such a thing was 'ignored'.
What it took, was a show and the massive use of ASCN pilots on the test server to show that freighters would be a 200 million isk 'I-Win-Button' for lagging out gatecamps completly. 1250 shuttles in a freighter, blow freighter up, node dies. 4-5 min lag-spikes in entire cluster
The authorisation for so called 'lag' stuff that GM's have said straight out not to be an exploit where given the go ahead to use against potential AAA attackers to do 3 things. 1. Keep ASCN space 'safe' 2. Ruin AAA ships so ASCN can collect loot. 3. Give more data / get more data to present CCP so they can fix what is broke.
I don't understand why people are so upset about the potential BOB/ASCN conflict. It is a well known fact that ASCN doctrine is to outblob enemies 3-1, or above.
RA showed ASCN in the east that 40-50 people defending a system are a pain to defeat if attacking with 600 people due to lag. It simply can't be done against an enemy that can set up good *cough* lag-stars * cough* deathstar POS's.
ASCN have also learned , that if you have 500 people in a system, it is hell for anyone attacking that system. HOWEVER, ASCN space a HUGE. When a 150 man BOB gang starts moveing and noone knows where tehy are stopping to shoot stuff, it will be harder for the ASCN gangs to put up the massive defences. However.. I do believe that when 30 - 40 carriers are lost, 20 dreads go pop and 1000 BSs have burned, that they will look upon the map and see that the Shire will be burning, but still be the Shire. That the Hobbits and Bobbits have figured out that it is a lot more fun to fight over gates and systems than blowing up towers and getting killed by the lag-trolls. I also believe, that when this conflict, should it come, gets about... 30 days old, the ASCN losses will be in the magnitude of 2/1.
BOB however, unless they can 'destroy' ASCN/AXE from within, won't take feythabolis or Impass.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:17:00 -
[596]
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 29/09/2006 08:20:19 Perception vs Reality. Perception can win or lose wars before they even beguin!
BoB are very good at creating perception - BoB mearly needs to say they are a tidal wave wasing over ASCN and there is no shortage of people ready to beleive it.
But I insted beleive in Reality - Any such tidal wave is going to smash over a rock, then slowly wash away from when it came.
The reality is that every game breaking bug that has happened upto this date has always went against ASCN. - The Pos bug's made ASCN pos's unanchor for no reason, but at the same time made hostile POS's go into Godmode at the same time! This is just one example of many bugs in the past, but as of yet, there is not a single bug that has went into ASCN's favor.
But given the sheer numbers of POS's that ASCN has, and the fact that even 30vs30 battles can crash nodes, the reality is that this is a war that BoB cannot win in the long term, and one that seems crazy until CCP get some new yarrdware, or put every system in the south on its own node. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:19:00 -
[597]
The Sausage factory. "The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate And The Bratwurst Burglars"
Pledge ourselves to Provide the finest meat Produce in the south during this campaign. Our PORK and MEAT is the finest in EvE. Coming to a region near you.
Where theres War theres a need for meat.
Good luck to all those concerned, May the meat be with you.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:19:00 -
[598]
Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 29/09/2006 08:19:34
Originally by: Gungankllr
When I run out of Isk, I'll borrow.
When I run out of ships, I'll beg.
When I run out of heart, I'll remember.
This is our land.
Built with our blood, sweat and tears.
The other alliances you've fought claimed sovereignty.
This is our home.
There's a big difference.
Thats exactly the way we felt when the pirate hordes started massing. Such an attitude goes a long way. In our case it got us all the way, for your sake I hope the same is true!
Nice Post.
I wish both sides of the conflict good luck, you have both been good to us in the past.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:32:00 -
[599]
Originally by: Durvaul
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
OMG , i realy didnt see this , ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
"There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:42:00 -
[600]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Durvaul
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
OMG , i realy didnt see this , ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
celes apoc control Fountain the now, whos supposed to own that?. aye.
d solo.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:48:00 -
[601]
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Durvaul
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
OMG , i realy didnt see this , ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
celes apoc control Fountain the now, whos supposed to own that?. aye.
d solo.
O Realy??? Last i checked the npc staions still had angel tag on em and not Celes Plus how many structures celes owens in fountain ?? And since we stopped cornering u guys in A1-con , did u finaly move to next door yz- or is still cozy in a1 ?
Define Irony: An attempt to claim something u never had and will never have
"There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:49:00 -
[602]
Hey guys, the CELES/BOB thread is that way ====>
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Cowboy Ramrott
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:55:00 -
[603]
I don't actually think BoB will commit enough energy to this war to do significant damage to ASCN. More likely they'll fight some, then declare that current game mechanics keep them from winning and back off.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:59:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Riddari Hey guys, the CELES/BOB thread is that way ====>
Hard to resist
Anyway back to topic .
A)Yarrrrr B)ASNC DIE. C)BOB l333333t. D)Celes follow us everytwhere like a bad smell :PP E)Cyvvok is an ebil space hobbit. F)Molle > Baron Karkkonen
I guess that sums up all the ideas so far
On a serious note GL to all and hopefully we will all have fun fights since that is why we play this game , also lets try to kick it to rival the GNW "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:04:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Now its your turn, face the insane amount of lag whilst warping to enemy Posses and say goodbye to your dreads. Its ineveitable in some situations. And its time you will learn it also.
Convenient that people forget about JU- which happened pre-server upgrade.
If there is one thing in which i have faith in BoB it's learning and adapting... it's a bit better than complaining.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:11:00 -
[606]
Originally by: DeltaH
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
i think u will find thats actually mine.
d solo.
I've been waiting for that since page 2!
Me 2 I read through all the pages thinking it must be here somewhere!
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:14:00 -
[607]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Durvaul
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
OMG , i realy didnt see this , ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
celes apoc control Fountain the now, whos supposed to own that?. aye.
d solo.
O Realy??? Last i checked the npc staions still had angel tag on em and not Celes Plus how many structures celes owens in fountain ?? And since we stopped cornering u guys in A1-con , did u finaly move to next door yz- or is still cozy in a1 ?
Define Irony: An attempt to claim something u never had and will never have
We need to put pos's up and mine and stuff to control an area? We will leave that to you guys who enjoy it as we prefer to control an area by force and in the mean time we will continue killing xelas while having free roam in fountain.
So to crash into the thread, my further posts will be on topic
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:16:00 -
[608]
Edited by: Cyleth on 29/09/2006 09:18:10
Originally by: eleuthereus
But I must confess, I do not know what has happened to you. What misguided counselors have been tickling the ears of yourleaders with unwise words? Or, perhaps, it is actually your leaders themselves who have gotten arrogant, prideful, boastful, full of resentment, and consumed by petty jealousy. As the old saying goes, a fish rots from the head down. And sadly, you seem to have gotten quite rotten rather quickly over the last few months. Then, again, maybe you were always rotten as you now finally appear for all to see.
So, you think we got rotten or whatever 'cause we are attacking you now. Please!
Quote: And your ludicrous posts here only prove that too many Bobbits resemble, for lack of a better expression, jerks. My perosnal opinion -- I do not speak for ASCN. The posts are ricidiculous, primarily because seems that very few BoB propagandists here can actually read a comment by CYVOK and understand it. You all remind me somewhat of religious cultists, who only see and hear what they want to see and hear in order to justify/excuse their actions, which in reality have no legitimate excuses or justifications.
Listen, jerk, it's pretty clear what CYVOK stated. If your stations get attacked and you have jump-in queues, you will try to crash the node/server. How can you understand that wrong? On some level, you probably can since reading all the crap you just posted makes me want to send you a 'my little pony' to play with.
Quote: So, you want war war war? Fine. very well. Good. You've shown to Eve your true colors - you are aggressors one and all in every sense of the word, willing to attack without provocation or cause, except perhaps as a chance for you to stroke yourselves (take that any way you wish to).
Yes, we want a war. Yes, we are agressors. We have a cause to attack. Deal with it.
Quote: I pity you and your alliance. Not because you may lose, not because you may win. But because of the kind of players you have shown yourselves to be. I would hope that all Eve watches and learns from you -- learns how not to play, how not to act; and how not to treat other alliances.
You want some more cheese with that whine?
Quote: I LONG to meet you on the field of battle. You may not realize it yet, but those blood stains on your "BAND OF BROTHERS" offical announcement belong to you -- and more will follow. You will never be the same after it is all over. Never. But you will be able to rest in the knowledge that it was your choice to do it to yourselves.
That's ok, I'd hate to be same all the time.
Quote: Good luck. No hard feelings. And, oh, make sure you have your clones up-to-date.
GL to you too, you gonna need it. --
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Kelly O'Connor
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:20:00 -
[609]
go go go make explosion fill up teh space ! (tbh im waiting for the BIG explosion )
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FraXy
Caldari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:21:00 -
[610]
So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:23:00 -
[611]
Originally by: FraXy So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
I'd say... Beer is good, mkay We also killed Kenny.
That's about it. --
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:24:00 -
[612]
Originally by: FraXy So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
That DBPreacher is banned from the forum... BoB's Egos are still bigger than anyone elses even tho they have done nothing of note recently apart from say 'OMG we are going to pwn you' and that Seleene's avoidance capabilities are second to none. _______________ Yar!Ö |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:27:00 -
[613]
Originally by: eveceo1
Originally by: FraXy So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
That DBPreacher is banned from the forum... BoB's Egos are still bigger than anyone elses even tho they have done nothing of note recently apart from say 'OMG we are going to pwn you' and that Seleene's avoidance capabilities are second to none.
The smack is weak in this one. --
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DeadDuck
Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:41:00 -
[614]
Originally by: FraXy So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
That one is easy, we really need Sir Molle to post in the "Amarr tread" in the "ships and modules" section of Eve forums to reach the 100 pages in less then 24 hours
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C4w3
Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:43:00 -
[615]
Originally by: Tholarim Can i finally have Paragon Soul now? I've apparently been wanting it for years now, becus of it's good ores, and close to empire location off course!
Tbh Thol you can have me..... ;0) i actually miss you.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I¦ll just kill em all!" |
Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:43:00 -
[616]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: FraXy So after 22 pages what`s the conclusion?
That one is easy, we really need Sir Molle to post in the "Amarr tread" in the "ships and modules" section of Eve forums to reach the 100 pages in less then 24 hours
Yeah - He just needs to say that the Amarr Titan sucks due to EANMII changes and boom! It will become the first thread in history to hit 1000+ pages --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Karunel
Nuevos Horizontes
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:44:00 -
[617]
More shootie shootie, less talkie talkie tbh.
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:45:00 -
[618]
What is the terror of death? That we die, our work incomplete. What is the joy of life? To die, knowing our task is done.
Have fun
Ian Novarider
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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Sharcy
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:45:00 -
[619]
Originally by: Tholarim Can i finally have Paragon Soul now? I've apparently been wanting it for years now, becus of it's good ores, and close to empire location off course!
You can come and try to get it, but only if you leave your klompen at the drempel --
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C4w3
Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:51:00 -
[620]
Can i have a broadsword to???? i only have a 1942 bajonet.....
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I¦ll just kill em all!" |
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:51:00 -
[621]
TWD: "Hay guyz, CYVOK said ASCN approves of lag tactics!!!oneoneoneeleventyone"
ASCNdoodz: "TWD, thou must cease forthwith hurling false accusations founded upon libelous quotation. 'Tis most base. Fie on you!"
CYVOK: "I'd rather crash the node than watch a station of ours go down because we can't jump into the system"
Audience: "WTF?"
ASCNdoodz: "Gentlemen, our leader is merely speaking hypothetically that our spirit is such that we shall come in drives to defend that which is hours even if it means the destruction of said node."
Audience: "WTF???"
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Noveron
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:54:00 -
[622]
Edited by: Noveron on 29/09/2006 09:56:25
Originally by: DigitalCommunist A reply to Steel Rat and everyone else who doesn't understand the whole 'lag tactics' issue, and I will say this with as much sincerity and little vitriol as I humanly can.
Then at the eve of this Great Southern War, he forgets to keep his own fears in check and fumbles. Does he deserve leeway? Sure, given the amount he's done for ASCN. But jesus christ if he says stuff like that ever again.. impeach.
Im glad you didnt come here to insult him like you were doing in irc. I also liked your opinions and how you exposed them, as they look like a more objective concerns...
And you are right in a certain point.. Even if CYVOK has said this or that... ASCN will fight you "with honor" till the last man..
About SR and other ASCN is concerned, or at least I am, why, among all your enemies, you choose some that were closer to friends than anything else, not your mortal enemies, you choose ASCN, to declare war. But I guess you state it clear, BOB has no friends, and they will attack whoever they want no matter who, and they day it doesnt do it, it wont exist.
Since my own point of view you come to us for the easy fight, it would be harder to go after some maybe more dedicated pvp'ers like MC or others more recognized better pvp alliances than ASCN, if the excuse is the forums smacktards also, I think thats short too.
Well, you are coming to invade our space. We will defend it at all cost. You are not going to leave this place victorious.
Bad luck to BOB!
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maGz
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:54:00 -
[623]
While I fullheartedly welcome this, I can't help but being a bit worried on how this will affect my own gaming-experience...
Hopefully my fears are put to shame and the lag-monster dies in the first engagements.
PS. Noone else noted that "once again" no specific information is given to what is going to happen? Another roadtrip BoB? ____________
The Priory Killboard |
GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:55:00 -
[624]
Popcorn prices in Jita through the roof, btw!
I hope this is gonna be more exciting than the alliance tournament final.
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C4w3
Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:04:00 -
[625]
Also i got an idea .... to get no merc involved, someone hire em to mine veld with cribba for a month. And i know you would love it Seleene ;0)
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I¦ll just kill em all!" |
welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:11:00 -
[626]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 29/09/2006 10:15:28 The discussion about this whole 'node crashing' debate is a complete waste of time and totally besides the point. When it boils down to it, its completely out of the players hands.
Neither side is at fault here, the server is. The server should be able to handle this strain.
Hypothetical situation: BoB invade key ASCN outpost system with 200 strong fleet. Capital ships are in place and have begun to remove the large pos' in system.
Right, ASCN have to respond don't they? They want to play the game and they want to defend their key outpost station. Why shouldn't they bring 600 people? "Because they'll cause a node crash!!!" Perhaps, but that isn't their fault is it?
It's the servers.
"But CYVOK condones massive lag out tactics in order to crash the node and save his system!!!" Besides the point because it can't be proven either way. CCP will have to turn a blind eye because they realise the server should be able to handle it. In their eyes and mine it isn't the paying customers fault.
So Nez and co, best just forget about it. There is only one way this problem is ever going to be solved and thats if CCP work overtime to ensure it doesn't.
It's a technical issue not an issue of morals.
End.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:12:00 -
[627]
Hmm, anyone else tempted by the prospect of getting to rampage all over the stragglers from both sides?
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olyyy
Gallente V I R I I Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:16:00 -
[628]
After 22 pages I finaly got it: since server is laggy then it's gonna be exclusivly a forum war?
2 alliances' forum warriors fighting each others on forums 24/7... That's where you see what true power really is heh
Men never lie more than before elections, during war and after hunting. |
eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:19:00 -
[629]
Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 29/09/2006 10:15:28 The discussion about this whole 'node crashing' debate is a complete waste of time and totally besides the point. When it boils down to it, its completely out of the players hands.
Neither side is at fault here, the server is. The server should be able to handle this strain.
Hypothetical situation: BoB invade key ASCN outpost system with 200 strong fleet. Capital ships are in place and have begun to remove the large pos' in system.
Right, ASCN have to respond don't they? They want to play the game and they want to defend their key outpost station. Why shouldn't they bring 600 people? "Because they'll cause a node crash!!!" Perhaps, but that isn't their fault is it?
It's the servers.
"But CYVOK condones massive lag out tactics in order to crash the node and save his system!!!" Besides the point because it can't be proven either way. CCP will have to turn a blind eye because they realise the server should be able to handle it. In their eyes and mine it isn't the paying customers fault.
So Nez and co, best just forget about it. There is only one way this problem is ever going to be solved and thats if CCP work overtime to ensure it doesn't.
It's a technical issue not an issue of morals.
End.
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TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:29:00 -
[630]
Originally by: Twilight Moon
Hmm, anyone else tempted by the prospect of getting to rampage all over the stragglers from both sides?
Yes :) |
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:54:00 -
[631]
Aneu, forum ban evasion = bad
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Kay Han
Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:56:00 -
[632]
Edited by: Kay Han on 29/09/2006 10:56:56
Originally by: SirMolle
The Pendulum is about to swing. It begins.
So when it will have completed it¦s full circle?
bahhh doesn¦t matter...
You wardeced EVE.
Fist you go for ASCN. fine. That will give us time to gather ressources.
Hopefully we are ready when you arive :) ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:01:00 -
[633]
Bob: "We're coming for ya! Rawr!" Ascn: "Battlestations everyone, we're under attack!" Bob: "... hey, that's not fair. You brought too many defenders, you'll create lag and maybe even node deaths." Ascn: "Umm-hmm?"
It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
/looks through his Big Book of Bob QuotesÖ
Quote: [ 2006.09.13 18:54:01 ] EndersGame > We do not want fair fights, or engagements, our objective is your complete removal from this region, therefore you will never get a fair fight as long as you remain in our region.
Oh, right. It's just another old case of Pot, Kettle, Black.
Feel free to quote that anytime Bob complain about blobbing, numerical advantage, or any kind of "unfairness".
-jb
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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Ordo Abchao
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:04:00 -
[634]
Originally by: Twilight Moon
Hmm, anyone else tempted by the prospect of getting to rampage all over the stragglers from both sides?
We aren't even gone yet and people are just lining up to try out our rides.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Trooper B99
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:06:00 -
[635]
Originally by: welsh wizard
It's a technical issue not an issue of morals.
Seems like both sadly. We've had reports of ways of deliberate methods of causing node crashes (not accusing anyone and they have been bug reported of/c).
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:06:00 -
[636]
Originally by: Jazz Bo Bob: "We're coming for ya! Rawr!" Ascn: "Battlestations everyone, we're under attack!" Bob: "... hey, that's not fair. You brought too many defenders, you'll create lag and maybe even node deaths." Ascn: "Umm-hmm?"
It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
/looks through his Big Book of Bob QuotesÖ
Quote: [ 2006.09.13 18:54:01 ] EndersGame > We do not want fair fights, or engagements, our objective is your complete removal from this region, therefore you will never get a fair fight as long as you remain in our region.
Oh, right. It's just another old case of Pot, Kettle, Black.
Feel free to quote that anytime Bob complain about blobbing, numerical advantage, or any kind of "unfairness".
-jb
But, um, this situation would be the equivelent of molle saying to crash the node, cyvok you see, he's the leader of ascn , bless ya
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
sonofollo
Caldari 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:06:00 -
[637]
a few points
a) all pirate and other groups including the north, the empire alliances and corp and the southerners (heck even RA and LV) might get dragged in here. Id like to see BOB attack RA as well just to drag them in b) pirates are us in delve my bet is ASCN will attempt to take a BOB region and BOB will be over in ASCN space c) its been a open secret as soon as ASCN or anyone else got a titan BOB would attack d) yarr and lag node deaths kaboom 4tw e) good luck to all sides and unassocated parties if this does become a full war (ie both sides go in carebears and all and fight all over eve and drag others in)then ship prices are going to go northwards f) thats about it here comes fun (homer simpson) Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |
welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:11:00 -
[638]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 29/09/2006 11:14:52
Originally by: Trooper B99
Originally by: welsh wizard
It's a technical issue not an issue of morals.
Seems like both sadly. We've had reports of ways of deliberate methods of causing node crashes (not accusing anyone and they have been bug reported of/c).
You know as soon as I posted that I regretted it.
What I should have said is "It's a technical issue, whether its an issue of morals or not is besides the point".
edit: As for questionable methods being used to deliberately create lag, I've seen it to. Very recently infact, we're letting it slip this time though.
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:15:00 -
[639]
Lots of F keys to be worn down in the near future it seems. :)
F1-F1E10^6 :)
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untook
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:16:00 -
[640]
Clunk, Click
Muwahwahwahwah!
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:16:00 -
[641]
Originally by: Trak Cranker Lots of F keys to be worn down in the near future it seems. :)
F1-F1E10^6 :)
Primarily the F5 key. :(
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:17:00 -
[642]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Jazz Bo Bob: "We're coming for ya! Rawr!" Ascn: "Battlestations everyone, we're under attack!" Bob: "... hey, that's not fair. You brought too many defenders, you'll create lag and maybe even node deaths." Ascn: "Umm-hmm?"
It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
/looks through his Big Book of Bob QuotesÖ
Quote: [ 2006.09.13 18:54:01 ] EndersGame > We do not want fair fights, or engagements, our objective is your complete removal from this region, therefore you will never get a fair fight as long as you remain in our region.
Oh, right. It's just another old case of Pot, Kettle, Black.
Feel free to quote that anytime Bob complain about blobbing, numerical advantage, or any kind of "unfairness".
-jb
But, um, this situation would be the equivelent of molle saying to crash the node, cyvok you see, he's the leader of ascn , bless ya
It really doesn't matter who said it, darling.
You can't ask for fair fights when you're invading someone, when your own policy is the same as theirs.
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:17:00 -
[643]
Originally by: Trooper B99
Originally by: welsh wizard
It's a technical issue not an issue of morals.
Seems like both sadly. We've had reports of ways of deliberate methods of causing node crashes (not accusing anyone and they have been bug reported of/c).
Yes and we have been on the receiving end of them. What happened to those that sploited against us? Errr nothing.
So what if Cyvok got a bit ****ed off that our enemies were allowed to do these things and when we complained were told "its not a sploit"
Jeebus its not as though people occassionally make a forum post in anger/frustation is it
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:20:00 -
[644]
Originally by: Hinkledolph Kinda funny hearing some of the ASCN guys whining about unprovoked attacks.
Have you forgotton taking Paragon Soul and refusing to let people haul out what they had out of spite?
What goes around comes around. :P
amen brother ---------------------------------------------
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:22:00 -
[645]
Jazzbo, i agree you can't ask for fair fight's etc, but they were talking of purposely crashing the node to defend, affecting people on a galactic level. Personally that would p##s me off because i enjoy a good scrap even if lag is bad and i die or whatever.
But enough on that and back on topic, i missed the great northern war because i had not long started and i pray that this will be an extremely hard and bloody campaign with battles every day all day. Gl to both side's, especially my brother's in arm's
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Hennry Fromer
Gallente radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:24:00 -
[646]
I hope someone gets some fraps footage of the Titan's Vs. Titan's fight as that will be great for the archive's as well as the first titan(s) lost in EVE.
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Auman
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:25:00 -
[647]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Jazz Bo Bob: "We're coming for ya! Rawr!" Ascn: "Battlestations everyone, we're under attack!" Bob: "... hey, that's not fair. You brought too many defenders, you'll create lag and maybe even node deaths." Ascn: "Umm-hmm?"
It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
/looks through his Big Book of Bob QuotesÖ
Quote: [ 2006.09.13 18:54:01 ] EndersGame > We do not want fair fights, or engagements, our objective is your complete removal from this region, therefore you will never get a fair fight as long as you remain in our region.
Oh, right. It's just another old case of Pot, Kettle, Black.
Feel free to quote that anytime Bob complain about blobbing, numerical advantage, or any kind of "unfairness".
-jb
But, um, this situation would be the equivelent of molle saying to crash the node, cyvok you see, he's the leader of ascn , bless ya
It really doesn't matter who said it, darling.
You can't ask for fair fights when you're invading someone, when your own policy is the same as theirs.
When Enders makes decisions on BoB policy your quote might have some merit.
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:28:00 -
[648]
Originally by: Hennry Fromer I hope someone gets some fraps footage of the Titan's Vs. Titan's fight as that will be great for the archive's as well as the first titan(s) lost in EVE.
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:29:00 -
[649]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Quote: [ 2006.09.13 18:54:01 ] EndersGame > We do not want fair fights, or engagements, our objective is your complete removal from this region, therefore you will never get a fair fight as long as you remain in our region.
Oh, right. It's just another old case of Pot, Kettle, Black.
Can we leave the pot and kettle out of this, they are very good friends of mine and I dont appreciate them being brought into a rather clearly sensitive thread.
Thanks
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BadManEdmundo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:29:00 -
[650]
All this over dramatization and exaggeration of BoB members thoughts and actions, makes me all warm and fuzzy.
Fact is that this is a game and if certain people in this game think that its ok to crash the server to stop another party from getting their moneys worth then thatÆs completely their decision, but don't for a second think that we're gonna start whining and crying. We've dealt with some tw@ts in this game and it's never stopped us before. Either get some popcorn and beer and kickback for an event that will be remembered for the rest of EvE history or sit their trying to stir the cauldron with a chop stick.
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Draven Locke
Locke Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:31:00 -
[651]
I think INNOMINATE NIGHTMARE is a BoB alt spy. Probably gave the location of the Titan. /Tinfoyle hat off.
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Riddlock
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:33:00 -
[652]
why that much sh1t talk ? I guess all the ppl involved in this thing are happy becose they have something to shoot at .
p.s. except dice guys who have one more reason to be happy, the forum war
have fun everybody :)
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:38:00 -
[653]
i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all. ---------------------------------------------
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Undia alNudius
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:38:00 -
[654]
kekekekeke, Pewpewpewpew!!!
Shoot, gonna need more marshmellow's - this is the most interesting happenin's to come along in ages!
Heck, if anything - kudos to both BoB and ASCN for givin' all of us so much to wonder and speculate about...
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:48:00 -
[655]
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
more fun to "announce" it with a BIG BANG imho
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:48:00 -
[656]
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
kieron gratulated ASCN for the first titan built
From Dusk till Dawn
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:54:00 -
[657]
Why I have the feeling, that we will not see much of this war? *cough* server *cough* The truth is, they will blob each other to hell and back and the server....well...... With the current state of EvE? Good luck on both sides.....you will need it
After 3 years in EvE, I finaly can say, that I lost more ships due to lag and bugs, than in any battle.
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:56:00 -
[658]
Originally by: Some Celes Dude It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
600 people coming to get a fight is a totally different thing from 200 people coming to crash a node. Lag will be present in both situations. This was an issue of moral stance.
Requesting fair fights? don't think BoB has ever done that nor do i see it happening here, as lag has nothing to do with fairness or not.
If BoB member's start using lag as an excuse for losing or failing in any other way then you can make your point.
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:02:00 -
[659]
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Trak Cranker Lots of F keys to be worn down in the near future it seems. :)
F1-F1E10^6 :)
Primarily the F5 key. :(
That made me LOL.
Also, does using this fancy logitek keyboard with a preset for f5..f5..f5..f5..f5 make me a forum sploiter ? .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:03:00 -
[660]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Trak Cranker Lots of F keys to be worn down in the near future it seems. :)
F1-F1E10^6 :)
Primarily the F5 key. :(
That made me LOL.
Also, does using this fancy logitek keyboard with a preset for f5..f5..f5..f5..f5 make me a forum sploiter ?
OMGWTFHAXFORUMSPLOITERMACRO*****FTW!
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Sharcy
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:04:00 -
[661]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian 600 people coming to get a fight is a totally different thing from 200 people coming to crash a node. Lag will be present in both situations. This was an issue of moral stance.
Instead of producing capital ships, BoB should have invested all their ISK in Comprehensive Reading skillbooks. All ASCN leadership has said from the start is that we will defend our systems in numbers. If that crashes a node or the server, so be it. If you don't think that's fair, well, you picked this fight knowing we HAVE numbers. Actions and consequences. --
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:08:00 -
[662]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 29/09/2006 12:07:58 Best thing to do is stop talking about it and see what happens.
Make sure CCP know where the big engagements are gonna take place and see how it goes.
If it does cause CCP HQ to explode in a fiery fireball of death due to server overload then we can ***** about it.
\o/
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Baconjoe
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:09:00 -
[663]
Originally by: thebold *Comment* Propoganda is what makes these forums so cool :)
*Personal Interest* If BOB is going to attack ASCN it would be interesting to see.
*Fact* ASCN/Ax's (despite the split of the 2 alliances there still as 1) leadership/stability/economy is something that really has stood the test of time. So has BOBs.
*Speculation - Biased* However what I suspect will happen is allot of the completelty new corps that joined ASCN/Axion will either buck up or they will leave thus droping the alliance count of ASCN or AX and then when BOB gets bored declare a victory that they made <insert figure> alts leave an alliance they never even cared about :)
Now before the next BOB member flames me for something i write to prove me wrong or make them selfs look big, ive added little titles to say what items in what context...
LOL this is so right.
We are cursed men
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:10:00 -
[664]
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
There are 4 titan bpos in the game at this time and we know who owns all 4.
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Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:11:00 -
[665]
Good luck old friends from Bob, have nice fights both sides.
I was just wondering has bob gone into hibernation:)? - Grey Council military officer,Rise Wing Commander. Grey Council webpage
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:20:00 -
[666]
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:21:00 -
[667]
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
There are 4 titan bpos in the game at this time and we know who owns all 4.
Enlight us.
Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE. |
Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:29:00 -
[668]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
There are 4 titan bpos in the game at this time and we know who owns all 4.
Enlight us.
My empire ALT is NOT, REPEAT NOT, flying in a shuttle moving that Erebus BPO to an undisclosed location!
Really!
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:30:00 -
[669]
Originally by: Noveron
About SR and other ASCN is concerned, or at least I am, why, among all your enemies, you choose some that were closer to friends than anything else, not your mortal enemies, you choose ASCN, to declare war. But I guess you state it clear, BOB has no friends, and they will attack whoever they want no matter who, and they day it doesnt do it, it wont exist.
No, BoB go after softer targets like GOON and Huzzah then make ego-inflating forum posts about how good they are at killing nublets.
When they get spanked by equally talented PvPers they keep quiet. Its all about the ego...
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:31:00 -
[670]
Edited by: End Yourself on 29/09/2006 12:32:25
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
And "Butter Dog completes first level four mission" means noone else has ever done one before.
The devs should be the last to use their insight to give out "intel" imho. Much more fun to keep everyone wondering. Not like a titan more or less on each side makes much of a difference anyway though.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Berneh
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:33:00 -
[671]
ascn bob d2 ? dunno ?
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Albya
Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:34:00 -
[672]
Rock&Roll -----
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:35:00 -
[673]
Originally by: End Yourself Edited by: End Yourself on 29/09/2006 12:32:25
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
And "Butter Dog completes first level four mission" means noone else has ever done one before.
The devs should be the last to use their insight to give out "intel" imho. Much more fun to keep everyone wondering. Not like a titan more or less on each side makes much of a difference anyway though.
Its been confirmed by several CCP staff members as the first player-built Titan.
I don't know what part of that is hard to understand, tbh. I'm sure the BoB fanboi's would love to believe that ASCN couldnt possibly have built a Titan before them, but you need to face facts.
ASCN are a far more a industrious alliance than BoB, it makes perfect sense.
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:36:00 -
[674]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
That is 100% erelavant, GM's will not exploit any information that has been kept secret BoB or any other Alliance or Corporation.
ASCN publicly announced there titan being build there for it's the only one known "publicly" in the game!
That still doesn't mean it was the first one built, and bob never answered my question so rumors live on! ---------------------------------------------
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:38:00 -
[675]
Originally by: zyphen****
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
That is 100% erelavant, GM's will not exploit any information that has been kept secret BoB or any other Alliance or Corporation.
ASCN publicly announced there titan being build there for it's the only one known "publicly" in the game!
That still doesn't mean it was the first one built, and bob never answered my question so rumors live on!
Oh, God... do I really need to do this?
Direct cut and paste from the official news:
"Yesterday at approximately 12:20 New Eden Time, the Ascendant Frontier Alliance (ASCN) deployed the first capsuleer owned and built Titan"
Do you understand now?
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:38:00 -
[676]
Originally by: Berneh ascn bob d2 ? dunno ?
-A- will be going for Esoteria most likely. I guess that means they'll recall their small roaming gangs from Delve.
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:39:00 -
[677]
Originally by: Sharcy If you don't think that's fair, well, you picked this fight knowing we HAVE numbers. Actions and consequences.
You totally missed the point of my comment, but it's ok as it was not directed at you.
If you want an answer to your reply though you can reread the post.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:40:00 -
[678]
Edited by: End Yourself on 29/09/2006 12:42:17
Originally by: Butter Dog Its been confirmed by several CCP staff members as the first player-built Titan.
I don't know what part of that is hard to understand, tbh. I'm sure the BoB fanboi's would love to believe that ASCN couldnt possibly have built a Titan before them, but you need to face facts.
The simple fact that CCP staff is NOT supposed to interfere if an alliance wishes their titan to be kept secret.
edit: they are not even supposed to interfere if someone wants to make up one, two.... nonexistant titans in my opinion btw
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:41:00 -
[679]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen****
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
That is 100% erelavant, GM's will not exploit any information that has been kept secret BoB or any other Alliance or Corporation.
ASCN publicly announced there titan being build there for it's the only one known "publicly" in the game!
That still doesn't mean it was the first one built, and bob never answered my question so rumors live on!
Oh, God... do I really need to do this?
Direct cut and paste from the official news:
"Yesterday at approximately 12:20 New Eden Time, the Ascendant Frontier Alliance (ASCN) deployed the first capsuleer owned and built Titan"
Do you understand now?
Ok i believe you LOL please don't hurt me ---------------------------------------------
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Aloysius Knight
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:45:00 -
[680]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: End Yourself Edited by: End Yourself on 29/09/2006 12:32:25
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
And "Butter Dog completes first level four mission" means noone else has ever done one before.
The devs should be the last to use their insight to give out "intel" imho. Much more fun to keep everyone wondering. Not like a titan more or less on each side makes much of a difference anyway though.
Its been confirmed by several CCP staff members as the first player-built Titan.
I don't know what part of that is hard to understand, tbh. I'm sure the BoB fanboi's would love to believe that ASCN couldnt possibly have built a Titan before them, but you need to face facts.
ASCN are a far more a industrious alliance than BoB, it makes perfect sense.
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:48:00 -
[681]
but keiron could have said nothing, and he gratulated ASCN to the first titan build
From Dusk till Dawn
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:50:00 -
[682]
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
If BoB has a titan, then CCP has ****** up in its statement. Its not like they only have 2 choices of either congratulating ASCN on the first titan or saying, nice job, but someone else built one first.
Third option, which CCP should have taken if BoB indeed has a titan is just to STFU and say nothing.
Note I am not saying BoB have or do not have a titan. Don't know, don't really care.
As for the conflict, its gonna be interesting. Aside from the lag, its probably going to be whoever gets the best bandwagon will win. BoB has a lot of enemies, ASCN has a lot of enemies, so I'll guess we'll see how it turns out.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:51:00 -
[683]
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: End Yourself Edited by: End Yourself on 29/09/2006 12:32:25
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: zyphen**** i heard only 2 titan BPO's have been sold, so bob, do you or do you not own a titan?
Please end these rumors once and for all.
What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
And "Butter Dog completes first level four mission" means noone else has ever done one before.
The devs should be the last to use their insight to give out "intel" imho. Much more fun to keep everyone wondering. Not like a titan more or less on each side makes much of a difference anyway though.
Its been confirmed by several CCP staff members as the first player-built Titan.
I don't know what part of that is hard to understand, tbh. I'm sure the BoB fanboi's would love to believe that ASCN couldnt possibly have built a Titan before them, but you need to face facts.
ASCN are a far more a industrious alliance than BoB, it makes perfect sense.
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
It categorically DOES NOT state 'the first public Titan to be built'.
It states, as I have already directly quoted, that is it the FIRST player built Titan. End of dicsussion.
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:59:00 -
[684]
So it's true, bob has a titan.
What race is it bob? ---------------------------------------------
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Garia666
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:00:00 -
[685]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
If BoB has a titan, then CCP has ****** up in its statement. Its not like they only have 2 choices of either congratulating ASCN on the first titan or saying, nice job, but someone else built one first.
Third option, which CCP should have taken if BoB indeed has a titan is just to STFU and say nothing.
Note I am not saying BoB have or do not have a titan. Don't know, don't really care.
As for the conflict, its gonna be interesting. Aside from the lag, its probably going to be whoever gets the best bandwagon will win. BoB has a lot of enemies, ASCN has a lot of enemies, so I'll guess we'll see how it turns out.
Good point there
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:05:00 -
[686]
I have a feeling that the server will have so many coronarys from this that we will have to complete the battles on the John Edwards show.
JE: I am channeling something with a "Tra" "Tran" ASCN: YES YES, Tranquility. It died over a month ago! JE: Well I'm getting that a BoB moros just struck your POS for 16000 points. BOB: YES!!! JE: Hold on, I feel a swarm of fighters going for that moros. ASCN: YES JE: Crap, i lost the connection again
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:10:00 -
[687]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Some Celes Dude It seems to me that what Bob are asking for are "fair fights". Ascn should only bring barely enough defenders, so that there would be no unnecessary lag, and.. hey, what's this...
600 people coming to get a fight is a totally different thing from 200 people coming to crash a node. Lag will be present in both situations. This was an issue of moral stance.
If by "totally different thing" you mean, two things with the exact same result.
BoB attacks Ascn system, Ascn bring in everything they can to fight Bob, node crashes.
Bob attacks Ascn system, Ascn start bringing in the defenders but can't get in because of jump queues, node gets overloaded, node crashes.
Whether it's intentional is actually irrelevant from an in-game point of view.
But then there is the question of moral stance, as you pointed out.
Now, anyone who has followed these forums for some time, will know that whenever Bob make a full-scale assault on an entity, they will also launch a smear campaign on the forums, in order to claim the Moral High GroundÖ.
It's a tradition, or an old charter or something, as Mr. Rankin would put it.
It can be something utterly silly and trivial like:
Quote: They destroyed one of our tech 1 frigates! They are evil and must all die!
Or, you can dig up something from the enemy's private forums:
Quote: One of their members has a sig that insults our dearly departed friend! They are evil and must all die!
This time you went for some forum stuff again. A nice, if ultimately unsuccessful cut-and-paste job by TWD.
Now why do you need the Moral High GroundÖ? Probably because you know there is always the bandwagon effect, and you would much rather have the rest of the universe attack Ascn and not you.
Same old song and dance it is then.
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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Wulfgard
Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:13:00 -
[688]
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Hans Roaming Hey this could LAG nicely in the south,
you seem to have made a typo hans, I fixed it for yah
BoB + ASCN + AXE + POS = 8836 people
i really do look forward to fighting...but i'm already dreading the lag :( might as well save money and just not buy ammo
You forgot to add: -AAA (+100 pilots) -D2 (+150 pilots) -BE, ER and Goons ect (an ugly number) -Possible FIX + MC (yikes!)
So you could have in theory a zerg of +400 incoming in AZN ASCN won't even need to log on to crash the server, the sheer size of the HORDE, will bring it down.
Clearly, friends and foe will have to bury the war hatchet for a quick minute and sort who will attack what regions (my guess it won't happen ).
Thank you BoB for your great timing!
BTW, the Society Of Islandic Hamsters have set all you of to -10
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:13:00 -
[689]
The press release is not a CCP release per se. It is an in-character press release made by a reporter in the Eve world/setting. If it happens to not be true, CCP have not lied to anyone anymore than they have ever before when an in-character news report has not been 100% accurate.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:13:00 -
[690]
Originally by: zyphen**** So it's true, bob has a titan.
What race is it bob?
Jovian
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:13:00 -
[691]
Originally by: Garia666
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
If BoB has a titan, then CCP has ****** up in its statement. Its not like they only have 2 choices of either congratulating ASCN on the first titan or saying, nice job, but someone else built one first.
Third option, which CCP should have taken if BoB indeed has a titan is just to STFU and say nothing.
Note I am not saying BoB have or do not have a titan. Don't know, don't really care.
As for the conflict, its gonna be interesting. Aside from the lag, its probably going to be whoever gets the best bandwagon will win. BoB has a lot of enemies, ASCN has a lot of enemies, so I'll guess we'll see how it turns out.
Good point there
When it comes to "news" items like this, I would always be of the opinion that CCP should follow "player knowledge"..
ASCN were the first to announce a player built titan. CCP can accept this on face value, without checking the DB on what ships are built or not. To say or do anything else (including nothing) would be seen as interfering in ingame conflicts
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:16:00 -
[692]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
and i don't see why you can't understand ether, it sthe first public titain to be build, and no dev would dare say, oh but bob already have a titain, thats a gross breach in game play tbh
If BoB has a titan, then CCP has ****** up in its statement. Its not like they only have 2 choices of either congratulating ASCN on the first titan or saying, nice job, but someone else built one first.
Third option, which CCP should have taken if BoB indeed has a titan is just to STFU and say nothing.
Note I am not saying BoB have or do not have a titan. Don't know, don't really care.
Well i highly doubt kieron's job at CCP is to monitor all the capital shipyards in the eve universe for titans beeing build.
To the audience of the "alliance chest beating" it looks like this is the first titan that has been build. That audience includes 99% of the eve players and should include the news author and CCP staff as well imo.
Originally by: Malachon Draco Note I am not saying BoB have or do not have a titan. Don't know, don't really care.
QFT!
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:19:00 -
[693]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Some Celes Dude Same old song and dance it is then.
I like your style Jazz.
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OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:31:00 -
[694]
Can maybe the rest of celes contemplate the fact that this thread absolutely nothing to do with them...and then maybe follow Wizard's example?!?
To the parties involved, lets have some good fights and see where the dust lands.
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Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:32:00 -
[695]
Quote: BTW, the Society Of Islandic Hamsters have set all you of to -10 ugh
ha ha great one:) - Grey Council military officer,Rise Wing Commander. Grey Council webpage
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:56:00 -
[696]
Originally by: thoth foc
When it comes to "news" items like this, I would always be of the opinion that CCP should follow "player knowledge"..
ASCN were the first to announce a player built titan. CCP can accept this on face value, without checking the DB on what ships are built or not. To say or do anything else (including nothing) would be seen as interfering in ingame conflicts
Oh, will you give it rest.
ASCN build the first Titan, not you guys. It so happens that ASCN have a far more capable industrial backbone than you. Deal with it. You guys are the better PvPers, but they sure can build things.
What next, BoB actually has more outposts than ASCN but its all a secret and the map lies? Honestly, you guys need to know when to stop the spin because its not working.
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PhannJodoxis
Minmatar Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:59:00 -
[697]
Originally by: Louisa Torres
I laugh at you all, make up your minds and, in the meantime, we'll prove once and for all why we're better than all of you put together.
Good stuff BoB. Better than all of us put together? Does that mean the rest of us apparently inferior humans who play this game? As it always has been, you, BoB, and your 'totally serious' stoic out-for-blood leader Sir Molle, effectively corrupt the meaning of the word 'Game' with your egos. That is how you want to 'play', I realize. But perhaps now some of the many other groups of inferior EVE players will have the foresight to jam those words down Your throats, as Sir Molle would say.
Many factions have wars and less than steller feelings for one another. Many have pride in what they do in the game. Yet, this is made different by you, BoB. What happens if war is brought into your home whilst are proving your 'superiority' elsewhere, whether it be by the 'inferior' goons, 'inferior' d2, 'inferior' russians... you *****s need it no doubt. Perhaps then all of us put together could smile and say... There is no BoB. |
Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:01:00 -
[698]
Edited by: Xendie on 29/09/2006 14:02:20 rofl
this is so funny bob is building its titan but ASCN got it done first and now they try to wang up their epeen by saying that they already had one.
hilarious indeed.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Nepereta
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:02:00 -
[699]
smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack smacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmacksmack
yawn yawn .. someone wake me up when this war actually starts
Originally by: CC 3 Cybok and lacky's REVENGE WILL BE SWEAT ILL BE BACK
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:03:00 -
[700]
Originally by: Xendie Edited by: Xendie on 29/09/2006 14:02:20 rofl
this is so funny bob is building its titan but ASCN got it done first and now they try to wang up their epeen by saying that they already had one.
hilarious indeed.
Hang on - Which server was BoB's Titan located in? --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
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Fabienne Runestar
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:05:00 -
[701]
So I'm breaking my own rule about not posting in Eve-O. I just want to let the parties involved know that We're ready for war. We were ready for war in August, and Ready again now in Sept/October. I respect BoB's ability to PVP, to take out opponents that forces I've been with have not been able to take out. The FIX Outpost back in may. I was in the initial combined SA/Huzzah etal strike. We got slaughtered but I like to think we softened up FIX for BoB to come in and pop the egg.
Anyway, I've invested a lot in prepping for this war and the invasion before it. I'm pretty much broke, but I have oodles of ships, and fittings, so I say bring it on. I will continue to fight even after I am totally broke and can not pay for my clones. I will fight till my skill points are back down to where I can only fly an velator. I will continue to fight till there is no more threat to my new home.
This I pledge to ASCN&AXE, Ars Caelestis my family, and those who for some reason fear a bunch of hobbits living in the shire. Oh yea thats right it's respect thats why they want to fight my bad.
Anyway Good Luck, Have Fun and Good Fights everyone!
These are my on opinions and do not represent my Alliance, and or my Corp, though I think a lot think as I do.
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:12:00 -
[702]
I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:17:00 -
[703]
May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:17:00 -
[704]
Errr, let's examine this whole "BoB has/hasnt got a Titan" thing.
Let's assume any entity had a Titan, and had it before ASCN. If they did, there's roughly two ways they couldve handled this: Either keep it quiet and use it for a surprise attack, or gloating about it on the forums, much like ASCN did. (Cant say i blame them either, btw.)
Looking at this specific case, we notice no confirmed BoB posts about them having a Titan - no gloating. Thus, still assuming they did have one build before ASCN, they went with the secretive route.
Now, and please use your common sense here: Is it logical for an entity to build a Titan, keep it a secret to everyone, then when another entity has a Titan, go "Oh, right, forgot to mention, we got one already."?
Righto.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:18:00 -
[705]
Took too long to write, i see. ^^
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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:18:00 -
[706]
Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 29/09/2006 14:18:35
Quote: BoB does not have a Titan
Thats must of been very painful.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:20:00 -
[707]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Errr, let's examine this whole "BoB has/hasnt got a Titan" thing.
Let's assume any entity had a Titan, and had it before ASCN. If they did, there's roughly two ways they couldve handled this: Either keep it quiet and use it for a surprise attack, or gloating about it on the forums, much like ASCN did. (Cant say i blame them either, btw.)
Looking at this specific case, we notice no confirmed BoB posts about them having a Titan - no gloating. Thus, still assuming they did have one build before ASCN, they went with the secretive route.
Now, and please use your common sense here: Is it logical for an entity to build a Titan, keep it a secret to everyone, then when another entity has a Titan, go "Oh, right, forgot to mention, we got one already."?
Righto.
They have several Titans. They never said they had them on Tranqulity server though --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Rider Zane
Gallente Riders of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:21:00 -
[708]
Seriously, you don't build a ship like an Avatar unless you're trying to say something.
Egos provoke egos, end result...everyone dies!!! Please fraps the boom, ty.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:24:00 -
[709]
Originally by: SirMolle I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
Don't ruin all the whorum fun molle!
Does the same statement also apply to the numbers two or three?
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:25:00 -
[710]
Originally by: SirMolle I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
You underestimate the average EVE players intelligence, whilst overestimating your own.
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:26:00 -
[711]
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: SirMolle I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
Don't ruin all the whorum fun molle!
Does the same statement also apply to the numbers two or three?
I have no further comments.
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:29:00 -
[712]
Jeebus, will everyone stop the **** measuring and get on with it!
Yes BoB is a big, scary PVP corp.
Yes ASCN is a giant carebeary industrial powerhouse.
I don't see the point of this war, but if it's gonna happen, then get the fug on with it and quit yakking about it.
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Shinjuro
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:33:00 -
[713]
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
i lol'd at that, then lol'd again at sirmolle's reply...FINALLY these forums are heating up again
My thoughts exactly.
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Shin Tzu
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:42:00 -
[714]
Can I go in my shuttle and report on the battles first hand? I would like to independently report and film the engagements first hand Would also like to report on any assaults both sides would doing i.e. become and imbedded reporter No need to let me in on any info, just tell me right before the op and I can fly over and do my thing. Well it would be cool if it was possible but I understand on keeping operations a secret since I am in the military in RL |
COUGAR ONE
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:51:00 -
[715]
HI MOM
" Charlie Mike"
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:52:00 -
[716]
The heat! The tension! The cold sweat tears following gravity! Oh momma and pappa! Finally some action on these forums and hopefully very big action ingame. Mister Molle here and Mr CYVOK having a verbal duel, sarcasm, rethoric... oh boy oh joy.
So, it's 29 Sept today... whats going on?
Oh and don't let me stop the number of pages in this thread, oh no no no.
Bets going? PVP BoB vs Titan ASCN ?
I doubt that the great BoB could stand a chance waging a multiple front war against more than one big alliance. Seriously I think the chances of FUN would be "humongus" but the chances of success very very slim. At points in time people start thinking or so they should, and "name" is sometimes less than "fact".
So who out there is sounding the allarm? Who is preparing the gunpowder barells? Is this really happening?
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Ysabelle nKataros
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:54:00 -
[717]
Originally by: SirMolle I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
What, you mean my ego doesn't count anymore? Damn!
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Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:55:00 -
[718]
Originally by: Rina Shanu So who out there is sounding the allarm? Who is preparing the gunpowder barells? Is this really happening?
Alarm went off days/weeks ago.
Both sides have already done so.
Yes.
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:01:00 -
[719]
If you start getting nodes to yourselves each time you move on a system, we'll then know for certain that BoB are full of DEV alts.
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Vincae
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:09:00 -
[720]
Originally by: Idara If you start getting nodes to yourselves each time you move on a system, we'll then know for certain that BoB are full of DEV alts.
You know, Idara, that's not a half bad idea. Not that BoB needs nodes to themselves, but having nodes pick up on gang/fleet size and contribute processing power accordingly. Totally wrong thread for that kind of conversation, but it might be worth pursuing elsewhere.
Now back to lurking.
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:14:00 -
[721]
Ahm, remember the old MC are alts of BOB and other stupidness posts. It just hit me that in terms of isk and such ASCN must be a lot richer than BoB and thus could be more appealing in isk terms ot MC if both sides would desire to aproach them in the future.(not saying they would couse i wouldn't know). But considering the bandwagon that has been oberserved to form in other ocasions what could you gents think if by any chance the MC will side with BoB ? (no flames please!!!! pretty please)
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:25:00 -
[722]
anything noteworthy in the last ~10 pages of whineage? can't be arsed to read it
oh and FYI If D2 is down there we will shoot anything that moves and isn't blue (or pink lets spare the gang members some trouble ) ________
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Lord Spidey
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:34:00 -
[723]
Originally by: COUGAR ONE HI MOM
Hi!!!!
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00tricky
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:35:00 -
[724]
Originally by: Trask Kilraen Jeebus, will everyone stop the **** measuring and get on with it!
Yes BoB is a big, scary PVP corp.
Yes ASCN is a giant carebeary industrial powerhouse.
I don't see the point of this war, but if it's gonna happen, then get the fug on with it and quit yakking about it.
Actually, we're a big, scary PVP Alliance
you know, the Big Blue tk8 flash was good... but I think this one will be better
non suficit orbis
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zyphentits
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:38:00 -
[725]
I wonder how many from CCP are reading this forum thread.
CCP hello ! *waves to them*
EvE TV footage on this war for us please. I heart you! ---------------------------------------------
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VonKaplanek III
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:02:00 -
[726]
Dear CCP please give us some super-duper anti-lag nodes for the next few months Fun fights with nodes, without them the south will burn in lag-hell...
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:09:00 -
[727]
Who CARES if BoB have a titan or not tbh. I know i dont!
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr KTHNXDIE
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:25:00 -
[728]
This conflict looks great on paper but the servers are never going to cope.
I think these forum antics are going to be the most entertaining part of this 'war'
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:27:00 -
[729]
26 pages? I so had to be in here no matter what tbh. Now time to turn on Wh10ring Deluxe and wade through all of this...
My first thought is...The game wont hold. And that is sad, stuff like this are what legends are made off and legends shouldnt be about the whole universe coming to a complete standstill!
But then again, from an RP pow firing up to may cynos, doom weapons added with the extraordinary spilling of biomass would perhaps cause some cataclysmic event that simply destroys or interupts the time space continium or something Trekky like that?
Cheers, Lowa
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EHZorg
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:31:00 -
[730]
This is gonna be fun, good luck everyone - may we generate enough frozen corpses to feed all of the galaxy's slaver hounds for years!
and BoB, hope you've all trained up on Multitasking - you're gonna need it
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Noveron
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:37:00 -
[731]
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: SirMolle I'll make this real easy for you.
BoB does not have a Titan, really, we do not have a Titan. Really.
Don't ruin all the whorum fun molle!
Does the same statement also apply to the numbers two or three?
Forum whorage will keep on no matter what.
Next question is now if they have 2, and next will be if they have 3.. etc..
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:42:00 -
[732]
why cant people accept the titan statement? it was made by molle for gods sake
anyway less about the titan and more about this here shindig (or hootnanny as bob sees it)
cookie for the obscure tv reference ^^^
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:50:00 -
[733]
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
MAME KILL BURN, MAME KILL BURN!!
WE ARE THE DESTROYER!
im not involved.. i just wanted to say that! My sig was nerfed.. im not happy -Mtt
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:52:00 -
[734]
Seems that GQ2s is the first system to witness the bloodshed atm , 45 ships lost so far
Being stuck at work watching KBs 4tl "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Falco Sparverius
Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:53:00 -
[735]
Originally by: SirMolle
I have no further comments.
Best post yet! I will henceforth follow your example on this topic. --- Cry CYVOK and let slip the ducks of war! |
Krexus
Amarr Reunited
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:58:00 -
[736]
A lot of nodes are gonna die, yarr.
GL ppl you'll need it ---------
yes i kill topics They never got me
Originally by: Red Knight Your forum-foo is strong
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:03:00 -
[737]
Sounds like fun
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Chochko
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:10:00 -
[738]
Edited by: Chochko on 29/09/2006 17:15:28 Edited by: Chochko on 29/09/2006 17:13:52 I wish good luck to BOB (and their ally), ASCN (and their ally) and ofc to CCP and their Servers. I hope the DB indexes are right made. :D
ahh and quick suggestion to ccp - prohibit BM copy for a week or two or jsut drop the table with them easy solution and fun fights -------------------------------------------
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Tadamitsu
Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:21:00 -
[739]
Edited by: Tadamitsu on 29/09/2006 17:23:19
Originally by: Chochko
ahh and quick suggestion to ccp - prohibit BM copy for a week or two or jsut drop the table with them easy solution and fun fights
oh your sadistic!!!! I like it.
Lets all prey.. er pray for the condition of the cluster as this cranks up. Solar Storm CEO Want to join the storm?
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Zrevak Ashek
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:23:00 -
[740]
Well, I'm abit biased so good luck to ASCN/AXE. You have the core of the former Huzzah pvp'ers now. Just make good use of your experience fighting BOB and u'll be fine ..and watch out for Thol and his TS/Vent spies
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:30:00 -
[741]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Durvaul
BOB will start getting problems at home as there regions that they *own* will start getting attacked by IMP/Celes etc.
OMG , i realy didnt see this , ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
celes apoc control Fountain the now, whos supposed to own that?. aye.
d solo.
O Realy??? Last i checked the npc staions still had angel tag on em and not Celes Plus how many structures celes owens in fountain ?? And since we stopped cornering u guys in A1-con , did u finaly move to next door yz- or is still cozy in a1 ?
Define Irony: An attempt to claim something u never had and will never have
You can keep your structures. If no one does anything about it we will just carry on owning the stargates, belts, complexes, the station undock points, the belt NPCs, any probe-able safe spots and plenty of Xelas and Horde killmails. Yeah apparantly your friends own a few moons, they can keep em. -----------------
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Michuh
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:31:00 -
[742]
Originally by: rmfHathor Why did TWD venture that sleazy attempt at misinformation knowing full well that all it would take is the posting of the full document to make him look like a bad?
How many people do you think will read this far in this thread? :)
Spin.. for the win.
Maelstrom Recruitment
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:38:00 -
[743]
Originally by: Plim You can keep your structures. If no one does anything about it we will just carry on owning the stargates, belts, complexes, the station undock points, the belt NPCs, any probe-able safe spots and plenty of Xelas and Horde killmails. Yeah apparantly your friends own a few moons, they can keep em.
We dont need ur permission to keeping what we already own Instead of u guys being greatfull that we engaged u at equal numbers most of the time and we didnt blob u all to kingdom come with entire alliance u just keep going whine whine whine whine and sicne now we are busy with soemthing bigger than some weekend cheap gankers u claim u own 1 npc staion in our region
Define Denial: Celes Claiming to own fountain "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:17:00 -
[744]
tick tock - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:27:00 -
[745]
Originally by: Randay tick tock
About 16 pages too late :P .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Dynast
Knights of Red Mars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:33:00 -
[746]
Originally by: zyphen****
Originally by: Butter Dog What line of the headline news story 'ASCN completes first Titan' didnt you understand?
That is 100% erelavant, GM's will not exploit any information that has been kept secret BoB or any other Alliance or Corporation.
ASCN publicly announced there titan being build there for it's the only one known "publicly" in the game!
That still doesn't mean it was the first one built, and bob never answered my question so rumors live on!
What it means is that a handfull of forum *****s tries to float some B.S. to downplay another alliances achievement and got shot down hard. It's not like anyone is really surprised ASCN built the first titan given the scope of their industry, get over it.
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:38:00 -
[747]
to the ones that want to know how things going:
lag-o-rama-rama-rama.
tyvm -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:41:00 -
[748]
jumping..... jumping .... jumping...
--------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:42:00 -
[749]
Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Well, I'm abit biased so good luck to ASCN/AXE. You have the core of the former Huzzah pvp'ers now. Just make good use of your experience fighting BOB and u'll be fine ..and watch out for Thol and his TS/Vent spies
And having a failed alliance's pvp'ers should strike fear into whom?
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NeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:43:00 -
[750]
first NodeCrash has now happened :D
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:43:00 -
[751]
First node casualty of the war ! an yone know how many Killboard points you get for that ?
.... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:44:00 -
[752]
node crash!!!!
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:45:00 -
[753]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Farham
I guess you just want to read things the way you want. Just looking over the full posting of his original blog from August it is pretty clear who, what and why.
Your trolling skills are good, but not great.
K .... it seems that complicated sentences are too much for either of us to read without turning them into something else...
Lets try something *really* *really* simple...
Does ASCN leadership authorise premeditated node crashing? ... whichever the circumstances..
YES or NO
7 pages later and no response. Not surprised. It says something about the character of ASCN leadership, does it not?
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:47:00 -
[754]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh First node casualty of the war ! an yone know how many Killboard points you get for that ?
5000? -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:48:00 -
[755]
243 people in GQ2 local, takes 5 mins to login, 2 minutes to activate modules. Node dies.
243 was spread evenly between both sides. Call us exploiters again?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:51:00 -
[756]
Originally by: Reddari 243 people in GQ2 local, takes 5 mins to login, 2 minutes to activate modules. Node dies.
243 was spread evenly between both sides. Call us exploiters again?
there is a enormous difference between a node crashing due to server issues, through no fault of the involved parties....
and a node being crashed on purpose if the battle is going badly for one of the parties...
try to understand that difference... before posting rubbish.
It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
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tbow10
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:52:00 -
[757]
i have this picture in my head of ccp going o no when this post came out. It just keeps comming back to me evry time i think about this. CCP will be putting a lot of overtime in now, and this is just teh start
hope ccp gets the memory leak fixed and the servers fixed soon they will need to.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:53:00 -
[758]
Originally by: Nez Perces It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
You don't get this.
EVERY SINGLE NODE DROP WILL BE ACCIDENTAL.
Tell me again about willfully taking down a node.
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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:55:00 -
[759]
Stop calling the harmless cormorant primary will ya?
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:02:00 -
[760]
fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:02:00 -
[761]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Nez Perces It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
You don't get this.
EVERY SINGLE NODE DROP WILL BE ACCIDENTAL.
Tell me again about willfully taking down a node.
And yet no official reply by ASCN leadership to Nez's simple question.
It is not hard folks. All Cyvok has to say to Nez's question is "NO." Until that happens, I am afraid he has painted your alliance in a poor light given his statement in this very thread about crashing a node to protect a station.
BTW, no one thinks that in normal engagements, regardless of numbers, that node crashing is "intentional" by any of the parties involved. To think otherwise would be ludicrous.
Spin it how you desire, however, the discussion instead is about the authorization by the leader of your alliance of tactics that will "intentionally" crash the node to protect assets.
Again, a simple "NO" by Cyvok to Nez's question is what is needed. Is Cyvok up to the challenge or not? So far, the answer is "NO."
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Kaninrail
Caldari Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:03:00 -
[762]
Seriously, when 243 ships + 1 POS = node crash, how the @#$% is anyone supposed to INTENTIONALLY crash a node? Give it a rest. We want to fight, not try and log back in for 15 minutes, there is no intentional node crashing going on.
With less than 250 people being critical mass for a node, that doesn't foretell good things for either side :/ -------------------------------------- ASCN, official home of Exotic Dancers. Em...pie...ar? What's that? |
Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:04:00 -
[763]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Nez Perces whine whine moan moan
Bring it ingame bob-alt or shut up. You won't win your war here. Fight.
Strange I am defending Nez, although we do have a shared mutual history that I look fondly upon.
Nez is not a bob-alt nor does he have any desire to "bring it" to you. He is simply pointing out the difference between honor and dishonor. Which path do you choose?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:04:00 -
[764]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/09/2006 20:05:22
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Bring it ingame bob-alt or shut up. You won't win your war here. Fight.
.... when you run out of sensible arguments, only thing left is name-calling... gg.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:08:00 -
[765]
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:09:00 -
[766]
Quote:
run out of the sensible arguments
I didn't realize there was an argument. Just you being judge and jury.
Whether CYVOK decides to answer you is up to him. Personally I think the answer would be Not unless they do it to us which with BOB would equate to NO. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |
Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:10:00 -
[767]
Imperium Tchnologies member in full support of Nez's post!!!
OMG Nez its like th communist Russia and USA agreeing HAHA!!!
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:11:00 -
[768]
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Xendie Edited by: Xendie on 29/09/2006 14:02:20 rofl
this is so funny bob is building its titan but ASCN got it done first and now they try to wang up their epeen by saying that they already had one.
hilarious indeed.
Hang on - Which server was BoB's Titan located in?
most likely on the test server. but shouldnt you be sitting and filling shuttles with bookmarks now?
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:12:00 -
[769]
How many POSes in reinforce?
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R'adeh
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:12:00 -
[770]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Nez Perces It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
You don't get this.
EVERY SINGLE NODE DROP WILL BE ACCIDENTAL.
Tell me again about willfully taking down a node.
And yet no official reply by ASCN leadership to Nez's simple question.
Check out the other thread about fairplay...started by Drakma. On a side note though, ASCN leadership doesn't owe you (or anyone else except for their members) anything. How come you think you deserve an answer?
All this smack/yadayada makes me sick. C ya all on the battlefield, let's hope the servers will cope with us all. Nothing else has to be said except for: BRING IT ON!!! __________________________________________________
My views are my own and I don't represent my corp. Please show mercy Drakma! |
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:14:00 -
[771]
Originally by:
CYVOK doesnt have time to answer third party's questions. All of the HC has said that they will not exploit, but you think that your questions deserve CYVOKS time? Nez Perces is a BOB fanboi and nothing will change that. apparently some FIX members are too. Just watch the war, especially if you arent a part of it.
oh but he did, around p12.... you think you know who I am but you don't ...
Cyvok on the other hand does know who I am and what I stand for.. and its certainly not BoB.
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Originally by: CYVOK
Originally by: Nez Perces
Now when are we gonna see an ASCN official come onto these forums and pledge to the EVE community that you will not be using your considerable resources to purposefully node crash the servers, should things not go your way on the battlefield?
The first time BoB & Friends jump into a system and start pounting on a station and the ASCN gang trying to get in to blow them up gets "You are #1827 in que to enter this system" or "Traffic control for this gate is currently offline" all bets are off. Whats the use of a war if you cannot even defend your space because of a stupid game mechanic and crappy hardware.
If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
-CYVOK-
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:16:00 -
[772]
Originally by: R'adeh
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Nez Perces It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
You don't get this.
EVERY SINGLE NODE DROP WILL BE ACCIDENTAL.
Tell me again about willfully taking down a node.
And yet no official reply by ASCN leadership to Nez's simple question.
Check out the other thread about fairplay...started by Drakma. On a side note though, ASCN leadership doesn't owe you (or anyone else except for their members) anything. How come you think you deserve an answer?
All this smack/yadayada makes me sick. C ya all on the battlefield, let's hope the servers will cope with us all. Nothing else has to be said except for: BRING IT ON!!!
There is only 1 leadership in ASCN. That is Cyvok. I have read that thread. He has not posted there either. Strange, don't you think?
Does he own me anything? Of course not. I did not ask to begin with. But he may well owe the Eve community a response given his prior statements on the topic. Don't you think?
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:20:00 -
[773]
Is this still going? So where are we up to now? Surely not still trying to flog a forum thread dug up and posted here so as to generate some feigned outrage. Eh? Oh.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:20:00 -
[774]
Again to the defense of Nez.
Nez has nothing to do with BOB. He is not a fanboi of theirs, nor has he ever been. I am quite sure he respects them, as they do him. That respect was earned on the battlefield. That is why FIX has the respect of BOB, as has been posted in multiple threads over the last several months. Nez was a part of FIX when that respect was earned.
Sometimes I wish I could sell some folks clues. Maybe then they would not post the crap that I read coming from these forums.
In any event, I wish "Good Luck" to all those involved in the current conflict.
Have Fun and Good, Lag Free, Fights.
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:21:00 -
[775]
Originally by: Grimpak fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys
/emote strokes Grimpak's frozen corpse .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:22:00 -
[776]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Nez Perces whine whine moan moan
Bring it ingame bob-alt or shut up. You won't win your war here. Fight.
Lol nez the BoB alt. You're clearly a clueless nub
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:25:00 -
[777]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys
/emote strokes Grimpak's frozen corpse
don't spoil it! -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:25:00 -
[778]
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Nez Perces whine whine moan moan
Bring it ingame bob-alt or shut up. You won't win your war here. Fight.
Lol nez the BoB alt. You're clearly a clueless nub
Yoda stamp of approval.
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:30:00 -
[779]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys
/emote strokes Grimpak's frozen corpse
don't spoil it!
Too late .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
NeoTech
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:30:00 -
[780]
the funny thing about this war is that the EvE community feels a NEED to trashtalk someone, and make speculations + arguing about a side using exploits... But u dont hear it from the parties actually involved? or, atleast not that much.
I dont know if its just the EvE community being even more and more stupid, or that they just feel the need to be a part of something great, because they cant accomplish that themselfes.
PLEASE EVE COMMUNITY: Leave us alone! i'm sure BoB will inform u if we do exploits, and likewise i'm sure we'll tell u if BoB aggresses us with 2 Titans. AND YES, we'll provide specs and race for u aswell. So stop worrying about us.
To BURN EDEN, never before has a group of people made themselfes such a laughable matter, i'm sure u'll try to spin it around but face it, no one cares about if u ganked a miner in ur raven yesterday, or if a hauler logged off to escape ur interdictor. Please save it for ur own fan boys, wherever they may be.
Thank You for taking the time to read this, this is just me saying it, but i'm pretty sure alot of people feels the same way about it.
Mind ur own business!
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:30:00 -
[781]
I realy want to know what is happing at the CCP office these days due to that event
Valar ->OMG....the servers are on FIIIIRRRREEEE!!!!!ONE Oveur ->we need more ice and water.....NOW!!! EMERGENCY!!! TomB ->Lets just nerf ascn/bob and the problems are gone.... Tuxford ->....
After 3 years in EvE, I finaly can say, that I lost more ships due to lag and bugs, than in any battle.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:32:00 -
[782]
Originally by: NeoTech
Mind ur own business!
... unfortunately threatening to crash nodes on purpose, is everybody's business....
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NeoTech
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:34:00 -
[783]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: NeoTech
Mind ur own business!
... unfortunately threatening to crash nodes on purpose, is everybody's business....
not if u're not on it. and please stop worrying about it, cus if we DO crash nodes intentionally, i'm sure it'll be said.
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:36:00 -
[784]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys
/emote strokes Grimpak's frozen corpse
don't spoil it!
Too late
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:38:00 -
[785]
I crashed the node on purpose. Sorry guys, I was about to accidentally pop an omber roid and I could stop the miner's cycle in time so I had to do it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Doomsday Machine
Caldari Jovian Labs Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:38:00 -
[786]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Nez Perces It seems that the most recent node crash was accidental.. there is no problem with that.
You don't get this.
EVERY SINGLE NODE DROP WILL BE ACCIDENTAL.
Tell me again about willfully taking down a node.
And yet no official reply by ASCN leadership to Nez's simple question.
When are you gonna get it? Nez is a nobody and why should CYVOK or anyone in ASCN waste their time with an official response for him? They dont need to answer to him...
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Marsha11
Bad Karma.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:42:00 -
[787]
Originally by: NeoTech
To BURN EDEN, never before has a group of people made themselfes such a laughable matter, i'm sure u'll try to spin it around but face it, no one cares about if u ganked a miner in ur raven yesterday, or if a hauler logged off to escape ur interdictor. Please save it for ur own fan boys, wherever they may be.
Hmm, when did Burn Eden come such a big part of this? Unless i missed a post all i have seen is Wildcats post on like the 4th page which had nothing to do with the current talking point of this thread.
Besides, with BE's kill count over the years if they only gank miners then how are ASCN still alive?
I wish people would get to know the facts before posting, it helps you not to look like a complete fool.
With regards to the thread i wish all participants the best of luck, there are going to be (and are already) server problems, lets just hope the server holds up for the really decicive battles so the outcome of this war reflects the leadership and execution and not who managed to take best advantage of node crashes.
End
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Tessa Vaako
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:43:00 -
[788]
Originally by: Nez Perces
.. try and spin that...
Since you're still on this topic. I'll say this.
I have access to ASCN CEO forums and am one of the leadership for Ars Caelestis. Let me say this plainly.
We have NOT been authorized to delibertly bring down a node. We have NOT been authorized to use other lag generating exploits.
The origional blog post (page ?8?) was written when ASCN was expecting an AAA attack. AAA is infamous for their apparent game abuse with lag generators and login traps. GMs seem unable or unwilling to deal with the AAA exploits, or even classify them AS exploits. Thus in the BLOG post, CYVOK authorized the use of AAAs tactics against them. Part of the reasoning to do so was to try to get CCP to wake up and deal with the problem. That authorization has since been revoked.
The CURRENT and SEPERATE issue is a SPECULATIVE statement by CYVOK of what ASCN MIGHT do if faced with the situation of hardware limitations working heavily against us. It is NOT, as some are trying to spin it, authorization for ASCN pilots to randomly or continually crash nodes in this conflict. -- The Future is Exciting.
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:44:00 -
[789]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Grimpak fastest 13-jump trip I ever had.
thanks guys
/emote strokes Grimpak's frozen corpse
don't spoil it!
Too late
.... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
NeoTech
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:45:00 -
[790]
Originally by: Marsha11
Originally by: NeoTech
To BURN EDEN, never before has a group of people made themselfes such a laughable matter, i'm sure u'll try to spin it around but face it, no one cares about if u ganked a miner in ur raven yesterday, or if a hauler logged off to escape ur interdictor. Please save it for ur own fan boys, wherever they may be.
Hmm, when did Burn Eden come such a big part of this? Unless i missed a post all i have seen is Wildcats post on like the 4th page which had nothing to do with the current talking point of this thread.
Besides, with BE's kill count over the years if they only gank miners then how are ASCN still alive?
1: BURN EDEN has tried to catch the spotlight in these ASCN vs BoB threads. Just stating a fact.
2: I dont really get that one? Have u ever been in ASCN?
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:47:00 -
[791]
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
When are you gonna get it? Nez is a nobody and why should CYVOK or anyone in ASCN waste their time with an official response for him? They dont need to answer to him...
it matters not who I am.. what matters is that the EVE community is watching...
and so far the only response from ASCN leadership (Cyvok) has been to say that they may crash the EVE nodes if they feel that the EVE servers are hindering their efforts...
If that is going to be ASCN's final official stance... then the community at large can come to its own conclusions...
And don't say that ASCN doesn't care, cause that would be the biggest lie of all.
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NeoTech
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:49:00 -
[792]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
When are you gonna get it? Nez is a nobody and why should CYVOK or anyone in ASCN waste their time with an official response for him? They dont need to answer to him...
it matters not who I am.. what matters is that the EVE community is watching...
and so far the only response from ASCN leadership (Cyvok) has been to say that they may crash the EVE nodes if they feel that the EVE servers are hindering their efforts...
If that is going to be ASCN's final official stance... then the community at large can come to its own conclusions...
And don't say that ASCN doesn't care, cause that would be the biggest lie of all.
okay, fine... now leave it
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:51:00 -
[793]
Nez Perces if you havent gotten a clue by now, why bother?
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Sevyc
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:02:00 -
[794]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Doomsday Machine
When are you gonna get it? Nez is a nobody and why should CYVOK or anyone in ASCN waste their time with an official response for him? They dont need to answer to him...
it matters not who I am.. what matters is that the EVE community is watching...
and so far the only response from ASCN leadership (Cyvok) has been to say that they may crash the EVE nodes if they feel that the EVE servers are hindering their efforts...
If that is going to be ASCN's final official stance... then the community at large can come to its own conclusions...
And don't say that ASCN doesn't care, cause that would be the biggest lie of all.
Since I am pretty much a nobody in the eve community, just watching the events unfurl with wide-eyed curiosity (since I am new to eve, and have never been in a game with a political landscape of the magnitude found here). I will say: I couldn't care less if any of the BoB, or ASCN leaders get on here and reply to you. I've seen tons of ASCN members reply that they have no interest in trying to intentionally bring the servers down. Based on everything I've read in this forum over the last few months, both BoB and ASCN seem to be among the most honorable players in the game.
Apart from getting stomped out of Pure Blind a while back by some BoB guys, I haven't had personal experience with either of them, and I've certainly never been involved in battles the scale of which are going on now. Honestly, I'd rather hear more about what's going on with the fighting! Looks like a lot of ships are being destroyed, but the map doesn't say if POS's are being attacked or not. What's going on?!
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:16:00 -
[795]
Originally by: Sevyc
I've seen tons of ASCN members reply that they have no interest in trying to intentionally bring the servers down. Based on everything I've read in this forum over the last few months, both BoB and ASCN seem to be among the most honorable players in the game.
k.... fair enough.. you like I are just a bystander and you believe both sides will play fair, just like I did..... until Cyvok in his infinite wisdom posted the following:
Originally by: Cyvok If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
.. k .. then one might say.. well he is just one opinion, everybody else in ASCN seems to be against such tactics.... but Cyvok is their top man... he is effectively their leader..
then in another thread it appears John McReedy, CEO of EDF, the second in command in ASCN.. has also in a separate internal forum post also authorised lagbombs and log on tactics...
So ASCN membership is saying one thing but their leadership another. Nevermind that this schizophrenic approach to the issue bodes ill for ASCN's campaign efforts, this also means that if nobody stands up and calls them out on it, they are going to think its okay.. and its not.
Well why does this affect us?
It affects everybody in EVE, because ASCN is the biggest alliance in the game and their example is followed across the universe.
Do you now understand why this is of such vital importance?
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Drake Merlin
Minmatar Omen Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:16:00 -
[796]
Take a shuttle and find out for yourself.
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:19:00 -
[797]
Originally by: Rina Shanu Ahm, remember the old MC are alts of BOB and other stupidness posts. It just hit me that in terms of isk and such ASCN must be a lot richer than BoB and thus could be more appealing in isk terms ot MC if both sides would desire to aproach them in the future.(not saying they would couse i wouldn't know). But considering the bandwagon that has been oberserved to form in other ocasions what could you gents think if by any chance the MC will side with BoB ? (no flames please!!!! pretty please)
do you really think ascn is richer than bob?
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Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:19:00 -
[798]
node crash again
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Porter Hadlend
Gallente Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:19:00 -
[799]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Sevyc
I've seen tons of ASCN members reply that they have no interest in trying to intentionally bring the servers down. Based on everything I've read in this forum over the last few months, both BoB and ASCN seem to be among the most honorable players in the game.
k.... fair enough.. you like I are just a bystander and you believe both sides will play fair, just like I did..... until Cyvok in his infinite wisdom posted the following:
Originally by: Cyvok If I am given the choice of watching a station get obliterated from another system because CCP wont let me in to defend it or crashing the node by logging in 2000 ASCN members next store... Well, which woudl you choose?
.. k .. then one might say.. well he is just one opinion, everybody else in ASCN seems to be against such tactics.... but Cyvok is their top man... he is effectively their leader..
then in another thread it appears John McReedy, CEO of EDF, the second in command in ASCN.. has also in a separate internal forum post also authorised lagbombs and log on tactics...
So ASCN membership is saying one thing but their leadership another. Nevermind that this schizophrenic approach to the issue bodes ill for ASCN's campaign efforts, this also means that if nobody stands up and calls them out on it, they are going to think its okay.. and its not.
Well why does this affect us?
It affects everybody in EVE, because ASCN is the biggest alliance in the game and their example is followed across the universe.
Do you now understand why this is of such vital importance?
Nope.
Don't really care either. I have friends in both alliance, I'm willing to bet they all just want some clean fun.
You can take Cyvok's statement and exlaim the sky is falling, then go ahead.. just don't be surprised when the rest of us stand off to a distance and give you one of these --------------
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Grainsalt
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:23:00 -
[800]
Originally by: Robbie Boozecruise node crash again
Yah, at least we can't be accused of not engaging BoB Paragon Server lasted all of 1 minute in the start of that engagement. ---
For T2 Tinfoil Hats, contact Grainsalt ingame.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:25:00 -
[801]
So far no POS-es under attack.
I imagine they will want to move their capital ships down before that happens.
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RogerWilco
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:26:00 -
[802]
Great - 2 nodes burned so far..
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:27:00 -
[803]
No need for minte by minute updates... its gonna be a long war so that will get old fast.
Suffice it to say that the Unstoppable force came crashing into the unmoveable object.
The result was a loud "BONK" sound and a lot of players sitting there going "Ow".
This will continue until the unstoppable force is stopped or the unmoveable object is moved...
Now if you excuse me.
*BONK*
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Tessa Vaako
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:27:00 -
[804]
Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 29/09/2006 21:28:21 Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 29/09/2006 21:27:45
Originally by: Nez Perces
stuff.
Seeing as you missed my previous post please allow me to reiterate:
We have NOT been authorized to delibertly bring down a node. We have NOT been authorized to use other lag generating exploits.
The origional blog post (page ?8?) was written when ASCN was expecting an AAA attack. AAA is infamous for their apparent game abuse with lag generators and login traps. GMs seem unable or unwilling to deal with the AAA exploits, or even classify them AS exploits. Thus in the BLOG post, CYVOK authorized the use of AAAs tactics against them. Part of the reasoning to do so was to try to get CCP to wake up and deal with the problem. That authorization has since been revoked.
The CURRENT and SEPERATE issue is a SPECULATIVE statement by CYVOK of what ASCN MIGHT do if faced with the situation of hardware limitations working heavily against us. It is NOT, as some are trying to spin it, authorization for ASCN pilots to randomly or continually crash nodes in this conflict. -- The Future is Exciting.
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Grainsalt
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:28:00 -
[805]
Originally by: RogerWilco Great - 2 nodes burned so far..
Oh it's ok, we are telling each other jokes whilst we wait to log back in ---
For T2 Tinfoil Hats, contact Grainsalt ingame.
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papaPadla
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:30:00 -
[806]
I don't getit... Either the dev's are no reading the damn forums or they don't have a clue what it means.
When Sir Molle makes a post... i think a dev should politely ask what nodes to reinforce or something like that...
BOB gang crashed several times already ... and that is a ******* shame... since were not eve talking about a battle... theyr gang alone did that to some poor systems in paragon that are not used to jita like trafic.
Ah... just reading the news... all devs are busy clearing up the petition queue... not acting now... just prepares the next zilion petitions... imho
where did i read that the ones that don't addapt become victims of who? -------------------------------------
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Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:35:00 -
[807]
/me asks for releaseing the T2 hamsters now !!!
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papaPadla
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:40:00 -
[808]
I KNOW I KNOW...
CCP style solution to all our problems... 1vs1 xeptor duel between Cyvok and Sir Molle
That would end the crashes, the problems... all discutions and so on... everything will be fine and dandy... and alot of sips will be saved -------------------------------------
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Blitzkrieg
The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:41:00 -
[809]
The GQ2S node went AFK one more time
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:42:00 -
[810]
If the theory is correct then the GQ2 node will be reconfigured next downtime and should then be able... uhh.. crash less often.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:43:00 -
[811]
Has any POSes been shot to reinforce?
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Noveron
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:45:00 -
[812]
THE PENDULUM IS QUITE LAGGED RIGHT NOW!!!
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Bazman
Caldari The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:46:00 -
[813]
Originally by: Ediz Daxx Has any POSes been shot to reinforce?
I remember when this question used to be "Has there been any awesome fights yet?" -----
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Grimpak
Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:51:00 -
[814]
node crashed 3 times?
damn -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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sonofollo
Caldari 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:52:00 -
[815]
the lag is pretty busy in empire to Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |
Khonsu
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:54:00 -
[816]
Node crash didn't stop 150 bobbers from ganking lonely me
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:55:00 -
[817]
Originally by: Bazman
Originally by: Ediz Daxx Has any POSes been shot to reinforce?
I remember when this question used to be "Has there been any awesome fights yet?"
Amen to that.
POS wars make me
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Cordial Ripper
Minmatar g guild
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:02:00 -
[818]
lol this is soo funny actualy i can see a real fight between 2 forces in eve and all otusiders braging about it what i can say south is full of miners so that;s why they have so many ships long live north and the true pvp spirit:P
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:03:00 -
[819]
Alright,
I don't post a lot .. but being stuck at the moment I am discovering the virtue of forum whoring :P
GQ2 engagement, good fun, but I do think that the yardware isn't up to these engagements right now. I recall EC- being far more massive then this little engagement .. :/
Anyway, back to another me now :/
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:05:00 -
[820]
Originally by: Bazman
Originally by: Ediz Daxx Has any POSes been shot to reinforce?
I remember when this question used to be "Has there been any awesome fights yet?"
Memories of a better time..
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:12:00 -
[821]
oi safe some fun for the US timezone
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Ordep
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:20:00 -
[822]
Originally by: Kryztal oi safe some fun for the US timezone
No cookies four you Krys.
Just cAkE
Made in Portugal
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Khatred
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:20:00 -
[823]
So where do I set my shop? _______________________________________________
And you think pie-rats are ebil? Mwhahahaha
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General Xenophon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:22:00 -
[824]
The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead. [a man puts a body on the cart] Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one. The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead. The Dead Collector: What? Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead. The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead. Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not. The Dead Collector: He isn't. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better. Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment. The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart. Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby. The Dead Collector: I can't take him. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine. Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor. The Dead Collector: I can't. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long. The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round? The Dead Collector: Thursday. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk. Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do? The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy. [the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club] Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much. The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday. Large Man with Dead Body: Right. - Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail.
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:32:00 -
[825]
Originally by: General Xenophon The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead. [a man puts a body on the cart] Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one. The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead. The Dead Collector: What? Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead. The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead. Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not. The Dead Collector: He isn't. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better. Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment. The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart. Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby. The Dead Collector: I can't take him. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine. Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor. The Dead Collector: I can't. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long. The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today. Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round? The Dead Collector: Thursday. The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk. Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do? The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy. [the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club] Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much. The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday. Large Man with Dead Body: Right. - Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail.
I love that bit. Monty Python ftw!
I think it's about time we seen some drama around here again thats for sure. My only worry (and I am sure to the parties involved as well) is that the lag is going to be the real issue in this war of the giants.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:34:00 -
[826]
Wow its hard to express how disappointing this is turning out to be so far.
I was really looking forward to this all week but if GQ2 turns out to be a taste of things to come then its all over already.
We can never again jump into a hostile camp and I doubt that Bob will so it will just be a race to blob up a system and then sit there.
We lost more ships than can appear on Bobs KB most of whom did not load, did not know they had even manage to jump into the system. I was sat on TS and people had to check the Bob KB to see if there were dead or not or what had happened.
We expected some lag but its just impossible to have any meaningful fleet actions in this game as it stands.
CCP you need to state now what the servers are capable of and we can try to come to some kind of understanding re engagements in this "war" because this, well this is just pointless.
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Joram McRory
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:41:00 -
[827]
respect for the brave BoB pilots sitting on the gate popping people as they logged back in after the node cash 0.o Joram
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Wuubaa
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:44:00 -
[828]
Originally by: Joram McRory respect for the brave BoB pilots sitting on the gate popping people as they logged back in after the node cash 0.o
NP!
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:46:00 -
[829]
I love it.
tick tock. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:48:00 -
[830]
So still no POS in reinforce?
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Brixer
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:50:00 -
[831]
No POS in reinforeced yet, but rumors have it tranquility is running low on stront as we speak..
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:55:00 -
[832]
Originally by: Brixer
No POS in reinforeced yet, but rumors have it tranquility is running low on stront as we speak..
Meh! We`re running low on nodes...
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Berneh
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:55:00 -
[833]
have we won yet ?
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CamMan
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:01:00 -
[834]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Wow its hard to express how disappointing this is turning out to be so far.
I was really looking forward to this all week but if GQ2 turns out to be a taste of things to come then its all over already.
We can never again jump into a hostile camp and I doubt that Bob will so it will just be a race to blob up a system and then sit there.
We lost more ships than can appear on Bobs KB most of whom did not load, did not know they had even manage to jump into the system. I was sat on TS and people had to check the Bob KB to see if there were dead or not or what had happened.
We expected some lag but its just impossible to have any meaningful fleet actions in this game as it stands.
CCP you need to state now what the servers are capable of and we can try to come to some kind of understanding re engagements in this "war" because this, well this is just pointless.
BoB did jump into a gang in 2I- from GQ2 tonight, and it did crash the node :(
The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the ASCN pilots that werent copying BM's
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:03:00 -
[835]
ok I think that video explains what happened tonight at GQ2 :-) GQ2 Fight
The node crashed 2 times :-) I got my insurance isk and kill report while I wasnt loaded. And the funny thing is our enemies dont seem to have any lag :-)
But I ll get my revange soon :-) ----------------------------------
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nickky01
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:04:00 -
[836]
i jumped in early this morning, about 4 jumps from the system is when the lag started getting heavy...finally jumped in when no bob were reported on the gate, sat there staring at the little white "jumping" thingie...
about 2 minutes later finally loaded up in warp, ended up about 1,000,000km from the gate, warped back to it (they were fighting), loaded it up in about 5 seconds, targeted everyone in range with guns hot...
watched as they were either killed or warped out, targetted new people, targetted pods, guns hot the whole time...then everyone was gone and i havn't had time to play since :(
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:15:00 -
[837]
Originally by: CamMan The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the ASCN pilots that werent copying BM's
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
We died because we could not load the system why the hell would we be trying to increase the lag
I just checked about 30 kill mails of the 50 I could see on your board that I could see from GQ2 and did not see a single one with BMs in it.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:23:00 -
[838]
Originally by: Zeveron The node crashed 2 times :-) I got my insurance isk and kill report while I wasnt loaded. And the funny thing is our enemies dont seem to have any lag :-)
But I ll get my revange soon :-)
ROFLMFAO!!! That ol' chestnut eh!
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:25:00 -
[839]
Originally by: CamMan The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the ASCN pilots that werent copying BM's
Well, you aren't implying, you're actually saying it. The different sections of your message are rather clear. While you do make an effort to make it come across as if you are trying to climb up a mountain of moral high ground .. you torpedo yourself in the last section of your message which I quoted.
You know, I'm sorry .. when I got told that the BOB we knew had changed I did not believe it, I just discounted that as a few simple encounters with some individuals on a smaller level who were flying around as BOB but without intelligence implants. What you just said really didn't help with that. Are you a BOB pilot? You know, BOB who fights with vigor and force and who always was above the more mondane behaviour of lying?
Seriously, I don't know who your main account is, but you must have some notion of how you just stooped what could have been a nice war down to a level where it doesn't even matter that the energy of all sides involved needs more power then what the yarrdware can supply.
Enough said really. Let me be the first to congratulate you on winning the forum war for lack of targets :P I've always believed media like these forums in EVE had a purpose, apparently I have been mistaken. These forums are a marketing tool!
Have fun forum whoring :P
On a more serious note, I do hope there are still real BOB pilots who live, fight and breathe with clarity and focus, rather then stoop down to eeky simple lying as if EVE were unsollicited telemarketing :/
Come on people! This is war, it's supposed to be fun! Remember CCP made a game of it? We're in it :P
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:25:00 -
[840]
Originally by: HostageTaker
Originally by: Zeveron The node crashed 2 times :-) I got my insurance isk and kill report while I wasnt loaded. And the funny thing is our enemies dont seem to have any lag :-)
But I ll get my revange soon :-)
ROFLMFAO!!! That ol' chestnut eh!
If you all crashed as well how do you explain all the kills of other crashed people? They crashed into your ships warping out and blew up?
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Zachri
Minmatar LUBETIME
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:28:00 -
[841]
I heard there was a GM in GQ2 who nearly uncloaked either a bobbit or hobbit? More details!
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Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:32:00 -
[842]
All I have to say is you cant win a arguement against Nez. He will have your brain turn into goo.
Nez = Eve Debate Pwnage
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:34:00 -
[843]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: CamMan The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the ASCN pilots that werent copying BM's
Well, you aren't implying, you're actually saying it. The different sections of your message are rather clear. While you do make an effort to make it come across as if you are trying to climb up a mountain of moral high ground .. you torpedo yourself in the last section of your message which I quoted.
You know, I'm sorry .. when I got told that the BOB we knew had changed I did not believe it, I just discounted that as a few simple encounters with some individuals on a smaller level who were flying around as BOB but without intelligence implants. What you just said really didn't help with that. Are you a BOB pilot? You know, BOB who fights with vigor and force and who always was above the more mondane behaviour of lying?
Seriously, I don't know who your main account is, but you must have some notion of how you just stooped what could have been a nice war down to a level where it doesn't even matter that the energy of all sides involved needs more power then what the yarrdware can supply.
Enough said really. Let me be the first to congratulate you on winning the forum war for lack of targets :P I've always believed media like these forums in EVE had a purpose, apparently I have been mistaken. These forums are a marketing tool!
Have fun forum whoring :P
On a more serious note, I do hope there are still real BOB pilots who live, fight and breathe with clarity and focus, rather then stoop down to eeky simple lying as if EVE were unsollicited telemarketing :/
Come on people! This is war, it's supposed to be fun! Remember CCP made a game of it? We're in it :P
I'm really disapointed. These accusations of lying and cheating are fair enough but with all honesty everyone knows what is in their "alliance mails" and what is beind said. No matter how much you deny it and spin it. Just live for the fight adn stop giving the "propagada" a reasont go prove itself. As they ssay there is no smoke without fire.
Secondly, I'm impressed and proud of ASCN for bringing it. They are a remarkable entity with a size and logistics force that is unbeatable. I wish you luck in our future encounters.
DTee
P.s. Yes there was a GM there. Probably just keeping an eye ont he proceedings.
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:36:00 -
[844]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: CamMan The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the ASCN pilots that werent copying BM's
Well, you aren't implying, you're actually saying it. The different sections of your message are rather clear. While you do make an effort to make it come across as if you are trying to climb up a mountain of moral high ground .. you torpedo yourself in the last section of your message which I quoted.
You know, I'm sorry .. when I got told that the BOB we knew had changed I did not believe it, I just discounted that as a few simple encounters with some individuals on a smaller level who were flying around as BOB but without intelligence implants. What you just said really didn't help with that. Are you a BOB pilot? You know, BOB who fights with vigor and force and who always was above the more mondane behaviour of lying?
Seriously, I don't know who your main account is, but you must have some notion of how you just stooped what could have been a nice war down to a level where it doesn't even matter that the energy of all sides involved needs more power then what the yarrdware can supply.
Enough said really. Let me be the first to congratulate you on winning the forum war for lack of targets :P I've always believed media like these forums in EVE had a purpose, apparently I have been mistaken. These forums are a marketing tool!
Have fun forum whoring :P
On a more serious note, I do hope there are still real BOB pilots who live, fight and breathe with clarity and focus, rather then stoop down to eeky simple lying as if EVE were unsollicited telemarketing :/ Come on people! This is war, it's supposed to be fun! Remember CCP made a game of it? We're in it :P
(In bold)
Then i have to say so far its only been RKK who has been living up to their honourable BoB reputation. Every encounter for my own part with them, has occured with no smack (Angelus X, forget it you smacktard ), no complaints, no nothing negative. They take EVE as a game, as most of us do (i hope). The true perfection of EVE players imo. My respects to them, and I sincerly hope the rest of BoB improves shortly. Now lets have a clean and jolly fight
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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spectre one
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:37:00 -
[845]
You may not post in this forum without showing your corporation/alliance identifiers, as detailed in the rules - Serathu ([email protected])
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C4w3
Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:38:00 -
[846]
I BET CCP just got 100 + Pettitions in their inbox by now. Laaaaag FTL.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I¦ll just kill em all!" |
pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:46:00 -
[847]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:52:00 -
[848]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
Apparently it doesn't count if you promise not to do it anymore. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:52:00 -
[849]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
Afaik and we know for that matter, this image can be manipulated and photoshopped to any proportion. Stop waste the EVE communities time and effort with such nonsense propeganda, and deal with it in-game. Jeez mate
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:53:00 -
[850]
Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits. ---------------
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Ms Curie
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:54:00 -
[851]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
You have more spies than that BoB, you know what Cyvoks response was. He instructed in no uncertain terms that this was NOT an acceptable tactic by anyone, and the corp in question was directly ordered to cease this.
But no, you just take bits and pieces here and there and put your spin on it. This was expressly, explicitly forbidden by Cyvok the moment he heard of it.
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M'buku
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:54:00 -
[852]
I think Liet summed this whole thing up best.
Deja-vu strikes again!
This should remind you of roughly how it went the first time!!
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:55:00 -
[853]
Any POSes in reinforce yet?
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Regma
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:57:00 -
[854]
Edited by: Regma on 30/09/2006 00:00:50 Edited by: Regma on 30/09/2006 00:00:31
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
For a CEO that built his corp on Honor, I find this pretty disgusting. Shame on you John.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:58:00 -
[855]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
I'm getting the hang of these forums now, so bear with me.
.. no you don't... you manged to say little more than "pls stop the smack" in 6 longwinded paragraphs that had to be read twice to make head or tails of...
Don't you ASCN guys have a decent forum warrior between you?.. you need one badly....very badly...
Over the last 48 hours your repution has nose-dived purely on account of your inability to post a damn thing without putting your foot in your mouths.
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:58:00 -
[856]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: DTee I'm really disapointed. These accusations of lying and cheating are fair enough but with all honesty everyone knows what is in their "alliance mails" and what is beind said. No matter how much you deny it and spin it. Just live for the fight adn stop giving the "propagada" a reasont go prove itself. As they ssay there is no smoke without fire.
Secondly, I'm impressed and proud of ASCN for bringing it. They are a remarkable entity with a size and logistics force that is unbeatable. I wish you luck in our future encounters.
DTee
P.s. Yes there was a GM there. Probably just keeping an eye ont he proceedings.
Disappointment everywhere then. Just as a note, I never mentioned cheating, nor "everywhere". Please be careful ..
I'm getting the hang of these forums now, so bear with me. From what I understand of the whole thread (stuck does wonders for time on forums) I am convinced there's been some serious ripping apart and twisting of old, very old, and very out of context ASCN internal message traffic. Now there's nothing wrong with spying, after all this is roleplaying, and we enjoy all of each others forums very much but when you engage in such activities you should realise that when you seed disinformation, you are seeding disinformation not only to your target, but also to your own people.
In a short term perspective that serves a purposes, in the long run however there's only two possible consequences with medium potential each for all parties directly involved: either people forget (the human race considering its history is not known for great memory skills) or people wake up and look back. Granted it's a 50/50 but even the .50 of people in retrospect going over matters and finding they've been played, well, generally people find that such actions suck. In a negative way ofcourse.
Whereas most of my current targets who fight on the forums have I trust no idea who I am, nor have any idea of the value of my word, the people who do know me on various sides of a variety of fences do know me for my word. I will offer my word on the matter, that this peculiar stuff mentioned earlier in this thread on the famous quote is, to put it mildly, both out of date, out of context, and out of sync with these times and these events.
You don't have to take my word for it however. As the ASCN forums are quite possibly even more leaky then the various other forums of people involved in this little tOte a tOte it is remarkably simple for people to see for themselves, and put matters in context .. after which it does become strikingly clear that it is a matter of a misquote, an out of context quote, and a twisted paste, which I am again sorry to say yet again is a display of something which resembles bad telemarketing rather then something which has a place in either a decent war or even common human behaviour.
In other words, you're misguided in terms of where to find the propaganda, I do apologise for saying it that harsly, but I am confident that anyone with a bit of resolve can figure things out for themselves. The more I read, the less BOB I see in all honesty. The forum wars, who cares, but please do not misguide yourselves. Let's focus on the real war, the fun, the glory, the dying and the burning space.
Anyway, have fun folks. Let's all be all we can be, in a positive sense.
Go read Cyvoks responses to the allegations in this very thread. They may prove enlightening.
To Fitz Chivalry: We were on the same node as you mate. We crashed too and we were lagged out aswell and we all had to log back in aswell. --------------
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:59:00 -
[857]
Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:00:00 -
[858]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 29/09/2006 22:19:43
Originally by: Khonsu Node crash didn't stop 150 bobbers from ganking lonely me
Hope that was a 'fun fight' for you
Yeah last time this happened in K-9 we had an agreement to allow people to log in to get an actual fight rather than trying to race to see who is first to load.
Ah well.
edit: I just looked at the Bob killboard, you manage to gank 50 odd ships of people that were completely lagged out/crashing.
For guys coming to this forum crying about wanting a good fight and honour you sure have a funny way of acting.
If CCP does not reimburse every single one of those losses then it is a poor poor excuse for a company.
Tbh mate, we all logged on asap as did your guys mre than likely. I personally didnt load up anything for 5 mins and couldn't see any of the fighting going on, we weren't to know you werent all comin on again because we had been fighting there before the crash.If the situation had of been reversed, would you have held your guns, or opened up?
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |
Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:01:00 -
[859]
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
lol does it really matter who against and how old it is ? lol still lame
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Guardian Gestalt
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:02:00 -
[860]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
Seriously lets find something more entertaining and constructive for these forums. After the last engagement in GQ2 there is little point in either side pointing fingers and claiming innocence.
CCP give us a no bull $hit status report on the nodes, so we can design a legit battle plan that will result in some good honest and clean engagements. AKA is it possible to shift node strengths like that in Jita down to hot systems in the south. If not, state it blantantly so both BoB and ASCN don't waste hours of our days in anticipation for ongoing engagements.
I think both sides want a good clean war.
Cheers
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:02:00 -
[861]
Most of the forum warriors in ASCN think this topic is too funny.
TBH, I don't give two ****s about words. Words mean nothing in this game. Actions mean everything. ----------
I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say. |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:02:00 -
[862]
I have to say that the amount of whinage coming from BOB on Day 1, fabricating stories of bookmarks in cargo hold, pointing to old posts regarding a conflict against the worst exploiters in the game, where countless petitions were replied to from GMs as "legitimate tactics" points to them not feeling so great about this campaign.
Where people got the idea that BOB act honorably is beyond me.
They have always done forum warfare by using hundreds of repetitions to make lies become truth.
They have always used spies on teamspeak.
They have often had their own people undercover in the opposite gangs, and in some cases as the FCs of the opponents.
Oh, hi Juan Andalusian, good NORAD days eh?
Their recent rise to sainthood is baffling.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:04:00 -
[863]
Originally by: Heinky... errr...I mean....Coasterbrian
TBH, I don't give two ****s about words.
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Guardian Gestalt
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:04:00 -
[864]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 29/09/2006 22:19:43
Originally by: Khonsu Node crash didn't stop 150 bobbers from ganking lonely me
Hope that was a 'fun fight' for you
Yeah last time this happened in K-9 we had an agreement to allow people to log in to get an actual fight rather than trying to race to see who is first to load.
Ah well.
edit: I just looked at the Bob killboard, you manage to gank 50 odd ships of people that were completely lagged out/crashing.
For guys coming to this forum crying about wanting a good fight and honour you sure have a funny way of acting.
If CCP does not reimburse every single one of those losses then it is a poor poor excuse for a company.
Tbh mate, we all logged on asap as did your guys mre than likely. I personally didnt load up anything for 5 mins and couldn't see any of the fighting going on, we weren't to know you werent all comin on again because we had been fighting there before the crash.If the situation had of been reversed, would you have held your guns, or opened up?
tbh mate, a sieze fire should have been implemented the second the server crashed with 300+ in local.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:05:00 -
[865]
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx. --
Nobody stays behind |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:05:00 -
[866]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Heinky... errr...I mean....Coasterbrian
TBH, I don't give two ****s about words.
Now I know what BoBbites look like.
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etheris
Gallente eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:06:00 -
[867]
I dont think either side wants any repetition of todays events. Blobbing a system until the node explodes and playing pick up sticks to see who can log their fleet on quicker to catch the others as they come on 1 by 1 into a lag infested system will get old fairly fast.
Hopefully CCP has something to say about it!
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:07:00 -
[868]
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits. And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Captian Orx
AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:08:00 -
[869]
* hands over the tinfoil crown to its rightful owner Nez Perces Captian Orx AWECO Carebear with teeth
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:11:00 -
[870]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
And again proving BOBs rise to sainthood as the most baffling ever.
Their constant out of game espionage has been happening since 2002 (yes.. before release).
As for John, he is responsible for his own words. I don't even have access to those forums myself nor do I have a reason to.
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
It is not honorable, and its pretty ****ty for themselves but they chose their bed. Out of game open season? You don't want that if you want them to keep playing with you.
NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
Put it back in the holster or bleed.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:12:00 -
[871]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that. --
Nobody stays behind |
Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:13:00 -
[872]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
And again proving BOBs rise to sainthood as the most baffling ever.
Their constant out of game espionage has been happening since 2002 (yes.. before release).
As for John, he is responsible for his own words. I don't even have access to those forums myself nor do I have a reason to.
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
It is not honorable, and its pretty ****ty for themselves but they chose their bed. Out of game open season? You don't want that if you want them to keep playing with you.
NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
Put it back in the holster or bleed.
Off you go then. --------------
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Sevyc
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:15:00 -
[873]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
I'm confused, why does this BoB person have access to what looks to be an internal ASCN corp forum?
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:15:00 -
[874]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that.
If there`s a bug in your killboards, how can we be certain that your loses is 100% genuin? I call that lack of reliability.
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:16:00 -
[875]
Originally by: Sevyc I'm confused, why does this BoB person have access to what looks to be an internal ASCN corp forum?
Because everyone but me has an alt in that corporation.
This is nothing new from BOB.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:18:00 -
[876]
Originally by: KSUDruid What is your freaking problem dude? Now you're threatening Dev's that are (supposedly, lol) in BoB? Are you really that insecure that you want to take on the creators of this game?
Originally by: Reddari NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
See it this time?
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:19:00 -
[877]
Less espionage makes for a better game and more interesting.
For everyone.
Surely you can't deny that.
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ItakeItDeep
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:19:00 -
[878]
Edited by: ItakeItDeep on 30/09/2006 00:19:07 not again
- I you see this post, then I screwed up. alt by NAFnist
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:20:00 -
[879]
Originally by: NAFnist About the spies thing. Its about how far you push it. Personally I dont need inside info to help kill my foes.
But dont come here complaining. It said Espionage on Feature List in manual ;p
That website isn't part of Exefile.exe
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:20:00 -
[880]
About the spies thing. Its about how far you push it. Personally I dont need inside info to help kill my foes.
But dont come here complaining. It said Espionage on Feature List in manual ;p
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[881]
this is just a phase all peeps that have ever come up agianst All of BoB accuse the same thing..
its ok..
your seat number is 175460 and here is your "Welcome to the FanClub" manual..
--------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[882]
Originally by: Reddari Less espionage makes for a better game and more interesting.
For everyone.
Surely you can't deny that.
If BOB got me nailed I can always tell myself the had an advantage I didnt, even tho its not true XD
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:21:00 -
[883]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Amthrianius Well, you see the problem is thus
The tactics part is most interesting as ASCN are trying to paint themselves as what is it again? "Mature Gamers", ok.
A fine example, if a single word about lag by ASCN is even mentioned now
Hypocrits.
Like wise in DICE. Maybe not in the lag-tactic department (although i shouldnt be suprised if it occured), but surely in others of similar value. Changing your killboard (might be a mistake, but interpretation will come to different conclusions) loses is one good example. Iirc you guys lost a ship with stabs fitted, and altered it to be in your cargo instead. And sure, I can find the killmail and the BoB killboard to prove it. Very "mature gamers" you are. So whats up? Scared of loosing face for using stabs?
Hypocrits.
There is a bug on our killboard which shows more than the modules you mentioned in cargo. If you examinated our killboard as carefully as you claim, you would have noticed that.
If there`s a bug in your killboards, how can we be certain that your loses is 100% genuin? I call that lack of reliability.
Dev
It is a bug of representing, which is not affecting to the content of the killmail. Nice try, no candy for you tho. --
Nobody stays behind |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:23:00 -
[884]
Originally by: ponieus this is just a phase all peeps that have ever come up agianst All of BoB accuse the same thing..
its ok..
your seat number is 175460 and here is your "Welcome to the FanClub" manual..
I was in Fountain the summer of 2003 when EVOL were under contract to take the region over for their clients.
It failed, but the Fountain Alliance was born from it.
I've fought against them, and on a couple occasions with them, for a long time, under different names.
I don't need to join a club.
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:23:00 -
[885]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: KSUDruid What is your freaking problem dude? Now you're threatening Dev's that are (supposedly, lol) in BoB? Are you really that insecure that you want to take on the creators of this game?
Originally by: Reddari NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
See it this time?
You just threatened to expose Dev's in-game characters in public. Are you really so dense as to claim that use of things like IRC and Teamspeak (out of game communication?) means the Dev's like us more and give us more information?
They make their livelyhood from this game, I'm as critical of them as anyone when stuff doesn't go my way, but listen to yourself man! Do you really understand what you just said? Dunno about you, but I have a job, and like to get paid. I'm betting the Dev's are the same.
Listen to yourself.. You've totally lost it..
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:24:00 -
[886]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Reddari Hey, I have some 3 year old evolution posts from days of yore. I'm sure they are as pertinent to this situation as these over month old posts about the RATs who we were preparing against!
ok...
Still, here is mentioned BoB and present time.
Please take your foot out of your mouth, kthx.
And again proving BOBs rise to sainthood as the most baffling ever.
Their constant out of game espionage has been happening since 2002 (yes.. before release).
As for John, he is responsible for his own words. I don't even have access to those forums myself nor do I have a reason to.
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
It is not honorable, and its pretty ****ty for themselves but they chose their bed. Out of game open season? You don't want that if you want them to keep playing with you.
NOTA BENE: I'm not accusing the BOB Devs of favoratism towards BOB. I'm pointing out that using out of game communication and knowledge is a double edged sword.
Put it back in the holster or bleed.
Wow really?! BOB Devs! You should Ö that buddy, oh and this is you.
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:25:00 -
[887]
:P
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:27:00 -
[888]
haha, nice pic. You should make it a link before Abdalion pwns it. --
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:28:00 -
[889]
Originally by: KSUDruid You just threatened to expose Dev's in-game characters in public. Are you really so dense as to claim that use of things like IRC and Teamspeak (out of game communication?) means the Dev's like us more and give us more information?
They make their livelyhood from this game
No.
I'm trying to get you to understand that this is a two-way street, a double-edged sword.
Their livelyhoods aren't in danger. It would just mean they would have to abandon their characters and create new ones. They got free accounts anyways.
I don't think they have given you any special advantages either. Read my post again and see that mentioned.
I don't intend to do this, I have kept quiet for several years and I can keep quiet for several more, and I intended to.
This is about out of game knowledge seeping into the game environment.
Among your out of game secrets are these names.
Shout about others private affairs and don't be offended when your secrets are shouted back.
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:29:00 -
[890]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
:P
LOL
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:33:00 -
[891]
I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
It makes me sad to see that kind of thing. It ruins the gaming experience for everyone logged into Eve by sinking to that levle guys.
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[892]
welcome to the world of 'anything goes in POS warfare'
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[893]
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:36:00 -
[894]
oops, sorry, that post wasn't supposed to happen. Can't seem to edit it though :/ Bah.
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:42:00 -
[895]
Originally by: Reddari I'm trying to get you to understand that this is a two-way street, a double-edged sword.
Their livelyhoods aren't in danger. It would just mean they would have to abandon their characters and create new ones. They got free accounts anyways.
I don't think they have given you any special advantages either. Read my post again and see that mentioned.
I don't intend to do this, I have kept quiet for several years and I can keep quiet for several more, and I intended to.
This is about out of game knowledge seeping into the game environment.
Among your out of game secrets are these names.
Absolutely not. There's no '2-way street' about it. You publicly THREATENED to expose Dev's in BoB's real characters. Your accounts should be isntantly banned IMHO. How can you sit there and say anything with a straight face when you'd be that two faced.
I have met a fair portion of members in this alliance Face to Face, including our Fleet Commanders, CEO's, and Directors.. I've seen pictures from get-togethers in other countries we've had out of game and *gasp* none of them look like Oveur, t20, TomB, or Hellmar.
Even the semblance though, that another player in this game, would threaten to expose Dev's character for political gain of his own is absolutely unnaceptable.
Originally by: Reddari Shout about others private affairs and don't be offended when your secrets are shouted back.
My private affairs are just that.. Mine. This includes things like where I work, where I live, and what I choose to do with my free time, such as playing video games. I would think most people in this game would subscribe to that though. That you would even consider violating the line between Real-Life and In-Game frankly makes me want to puke.
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
Wulfgard
Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:43:00 -
[896]
Originally by: CamMan Edited by: CamMan on 30/09/2006 00:11:39
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Wow its hard to express how disappointing this is turning out to be so far.
I was really looking forward to this all week but if GQ2 turns out to be a taste of things to come then its all over already.
We can never again jump into a hostile camp and I doubt that Bob will so it will just be a race to blob up a system and then sit there.
We lost more ships than can appear on Bobs KB most of whom did not load, did not know they had even manage to jump into the system. I was sat on TS and people had to check the Bob KB to see if there were dead or not or what had happened.
We expected some lag but its just impossible to have any meaningful fleet actions in this game as it stands.
CCP you need to state now what the servers are capable of and we can try to come to some kind of understanding re engagements in this "war" because this, well this is just pointless.
BoB did jump into a gang in 2I- from GQ2 tonight, and it did crash the node :(
The question as to why the node crashed may be something to do with the amount of BM's some of your pilots had in their cargoholds. A large percentage of your loot cans contained 5-10 BM's, and then there are more BM's on killmails.
I am not implying you were copying BM's into your cargohold, I am just saying that i find it strange that a lot of ASCN pilots carry BM's in their cargo's.
I feel sorry for the majority ASCN pilots that werent carrying BM's
edit: Just to satisfy Fitz Chivalry, there were 4 killmails that had BMs in the cargo hold form that small engagement. There was also this statement that was taken from local chat "Amior > if BoB comes in guys - pull out all ur drones so it cause them lag."
PS. No disrespect to ASCN, I am sure this is just a vast minority of people doing the wrong thing.
Ohh this is a very sad post...
Concerning the BMs you found in some of the cargo hold of some ASCN members, I can give a quick answer: I was part of the gang that jumped in GQ2, crashed and died as we tried to relog to your gate camps. A lot of our gang members had no safe spots for the previous system and so we asked some of our pilots to make a few copies for the people who didn't have a safe BM. What happened is we got a rush of blood to our head and decided to jump thru before waiting any longer (the safe bms were never distributed).
But I guess I am waisting my time typing here. We are ASCN, we are the vile exploiters, ebils, dishonorable and many others titles that I am too tired to recollect. I guess you are coming to wipe us out in order to restore what's right and just in this part of the galaxie? Hmm... What do they feed you at the BoB Cantina?
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:44:00 -
[897]
Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
Congratulations, You are the first person in 3 years (my entire eve-time) to make it into my sig. Its never happened before! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you |
Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:45:00 -
[898]
By Jove, I can't resist, this must be what it feels like for the forum warriors!
And again!
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:46:00 -
[899]
Edited by: pershphanie on 30/09/2006 00:45:56
Originally by: Afonso Henriques Edited by: Afonso Henriques on 30/09/2006 00:38:49 I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
Apparently it is ok as long as you later deny it and call it propaganda when someone directly quotes ascn corp leadership.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:46:00 -
[900]
Mmm wheres the old forum wars gone? The ones about killboards and kd ratios and who is backstabbing who - and alts popping all over and getting whacked.
This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:49:00 -
[901]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
OFC. If someone takes a screen shot of your alliance's corp leadership instructing ASCN members to use poor sportsmanship the big problem there is definatly the person who took the screenshot and not the person who gave the order.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:50:00 -
[902]
may the week minded fall, and litter the space forrest with frozen meat.
After perusing the recent realse of notes, I am quite confident one side will be dropping better loot, I wish that side the best of luck as I have only ever seen them fight with the right mind set.
fight as fighting is intended, there will always be spies, there may/maynot always be devs playing but I bet they want to fly with people that fight the right way.
fight for your eve soul dont die in a lame set up with a crap tacktic.
as for the lag u will encounter,... I hope it all works out, I reed about this great war to come and then lag.... and today I have had one of the best fights ... they died hard it felt right
they take thier souls,
but not the corpses.
good luck and fight right.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:50:00 -
[903]
Originally by: KSUDruid My private affairs are just that.. Mine. This includes things like where I work, where I live, and what I choose to do with my free time, such as playing video games. I would think most people in this game would subscribe to that though. That you would even consider violating the line between Real-Life and In-Game frankly makes me want to puke.
Their dev names are not their real life names.
I'm glad to see that my comment has meant that you need to seriously think about what is In-Game and what is Real-Life.
Now take that knowledge and apply it to your screenshot collection.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:52:00 -
[904]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig This new trend of screenshots, forum spying, and blaming dev involvement doesnt suit me at all
Give me back the 2005 forum wars please!
OFC. If someone takes a screen shot of your alliance's corp leadership instructing ASCN members to use poor sportsmanship the big problem there is definatly the person who took the screenshot and not the person who gave the order.
where did I say I have a problem with people posting screenshots?
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |
Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:54:00 -
[905]
Originally by: Afonso Henriques Edited by: Afonso Henriques on 30/09/2006 00:38:49 I dunno, how you can defend this:
Got Bm's?
It makes me sad to see that kind of thing. It ruins the gaming experience for everyone logged into Eve by sinking to that levle guys.
I'm not sayign ascn are bad guys, quite the contrary. I know they pride themselves on playing the game well. I would just hope for their sake, they would make a public statement regarding this allegation.
Actually, CYVOK got wind of that when it happened, and he sent out an alliance mail telling them (the corp was not named, it was a general mail) to cease and desist and delete the BMs.
No, I don't have a screenie of the mail.
And Druid, dude, you're really missing the point Riddari is trying to make. :P His point is the same as yours: Out of game material should be private, and not waved around for the entire community to see. That includes forum posts on private forums between friends. Would you like it if somebody took pictures (screenshots) of your IMs (or texts, or anything) between you and your friends, the posted them on the bulletin board at work? ----------
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:54:00 -
[906]
hmmm,, keep CYVOK quote or use the brand new Riddari Bob are devs quote... tough choice
you cant see the possibility out of the 5k players you have, not a single character of you might be a developer or a GM? It could be so, but does it really matter? I find it really hard to believe that he would risk his job to gain an advantage, would you?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:55:00 -
[907]
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names.
I'm glad to see that my comment has meant that you need to seriously think about what is In-Game and what is Real-Life.
Now take that knowledge and apply it to your screenshot collection.
Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters? You just don't know when to stop, do you?
I have never EVER had to question what the line between real life and In-Game was. I'd still buy anyone (save for possibly you now) a Beer if we ever met somewhere.
Screenshots of forums, concerning IN-GAME THINGS are not considered real life. You say something, using your in-game characters name, on a forum regarding the game, and it's perfectly valid. So far we have the #1 Guy and the #2 Guy in ASCN saying it's a legal tactic for you to Lag your enemies, and crash nodes, in order to keep your space. I think that's perfectly obvious to anyone who can open their eyes. This is all In-Game. Every-single-bit of it.
Go ahead and try and counter something else now.
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:56:00 -
[908]
Edited by: Reddari on 30/09/2006 00:56:47
Originally by: KSUDruid Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters?
No.
But a nice spin you put on it. 2 points.
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splattercat
Special Tactics and Operations Party O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:56:00 -
[909]
Can i just point out that most of eve dont care what side of you WCS huging nubs win so long as you dont cash the server!
GOOD luck all, most of us are watching this with big LOL in corp/allance chat.
YES i have poped both bob and asvn with wcs in low ( mostly ASCN) but i have bob coz evol cant zip the smack tbh.
Honist words from a non combatent in this, and if you want o come after me for this this then good luck i wish you well in this GAME, as its is a GAME, and this GAME is something we all do to enjoy. i realy think bob will get a smack in the face over this, ascn in there home area wont run or blob, thay will stand and fight. GL all hope none of you are standing after this. Wov and respect Cat. ( no my allance knows not what i post, this is from a player haveing a LMFAO at this)
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:57:00 -
[910]
Originally by: Virtuozzo By Jove, I can't resist, this must be what it feels like for the forum warriors!
And again!
No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:00:00 -
[911]
Edited by: Coasterbrian on 30/09/2006 01:01:34 Hey Riddari, mate, you need to step back from the computer for a couple minutes. You're going to say something you may regret later.
EDIT: Oh, and BoB is hardly the only alliance in this game that spies. It's really a moot point. ----------
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:00:00 -
[912]
For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:02:00 -
[913]
Originally by: Reddari Edited by: Reddari on 30/09/2006 00:56:47
Originally by: KSUDruid Oh so now you're going to associate REAL LIFE Names of the Dev's with their ingame characters?
No.
But a nice spin you put on it. 2 points.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that BoB is the only Alliance that might have Dev's GM's errr and who else oh yeah ISD people amongst their members ? Dude wake up and snap out of it, im pretty F'in sure there is atleast a few in ASCN as well and alot of the other alliances, now does that mean that those people volunteer their real identity ? Seriously get a grip and think a little before you make such a threat. Because trust me if a witch hun for Dev's playing eve starts its not gonna be BoB that has the most of them nor will it make ASCN look any more innocent. Now take your sore losing butt back ingame and keep your head in the game.
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:03:00 -
[914]
Originally by: Reddari For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works. --------------
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[915]
The lag shown from the Axe movie snippet shows its gonna be one of 'those wars' so i think the forums are just gonna get worse with accusation of bm whoring, lag generation etc cos we dont seem to be able to get the sort of fleet battles we would like from this.
disappointed that alot of players on both sides seem to want to act like the a prom queen on the blob but i suppose you are all just keyboard warriors who get a kick from it.
I went out tonight, had some good jars with the guys and we all had a good laugh at the sort of people you must be to be acting like this. "omg cheat! nub, looser hax, see you soon etc" all priceless fun (laughed so hard i peed a little, my friends dont play eve, they dont get it at all infact so i have fun telling them the sort of L337 dudes that play it)
With evefest a month away i look forward to laughing with some of you face to face for the behaviour you are showing here in this thread, it is without doubt the most cringworthy, sad and staggering display of pettyness i have ever seen. the saddest thing is that to some of you this game is all you have isnt it? your lives are dead unless you feel like someone in this game right? so you feel the need to take it so personally that you actually HATE the person on the other team right? you want to riddicule them and drive them from the game right? you want to destroy them?
Pretty scarey stuff, isnt this how serial killers are made? extreme reaction to minutae
So dont take it too seriously guys, after all one day the servers will switch off and all your left with is you, and if that turns out to be a sad pathetic bag of crap with an attitude then wtf you done with your life in the years playing eh?
Expand your mind, not your ego, try to have fun and realise that the game cant handle what we want it to handle. 10 v 10 anyone?
CEO Pyrex
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[916]
Originally by: Reddari You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Weve never said we were Angels, we are bad peeps. Can we move on now ?
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:04:00 -
[917]
Originally by: Coasterbrian Hey Riddari, mate, you need to step back from the computer for a couple minutes. You're going to say something you may regret later.
I don't know.
I'm relatively pleased to shock them. They needed a jolt to see that the world isn't a flat piece of paper marked BOB.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:05:00 -
[918]
Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:05:00 -
[919]
Originally by: Kryztal No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
That means it's starting to fit in with the current state of the forums realy
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:07:00 -
[920]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex the saddest thing is that to some of you this game is all you have isnt it? your lives are dead unless you feel like someone in this game right? so you feel the need to take it so personally that you actually HATE the person on the other team right? you want to riddicule them and drive them from the game right? you want to destroy them?
Pretty scarey stuff, isnt this how serial killers are made? extreme reaction to minutae
So dont take it too seriously guys, after all one day the servers will switch off and all your left with is you, and if that turns out to be a sad pathetic bag of crap with an attitude then wtf you done with your life in the years playing eh?
.. oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
ASCN posts are getting worse and worse by the minute......
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:07:00 -
[921]
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: Kryztal No actually it only makes you look a bit ... yeah silly. And not in a good way
That means it's starting to fit in with the current state of the forums realy
So you decide to just add to it insted of just ignoring it ? Meh not bothering me
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:08:00 -
[922]
Edited by: Coasterbrian on 30/09/2006 01:09:46
Originally by: KSUDruid Screenshots of forums, concerning IN-GAME THINGS are not considered real life. You say something, using your in-game characters name, on a forum regarding the game, and it's perfectly valid.
So screenshots of your RL IMs with your friends, concerning your RL work, using your RL name means that said communications can be made public to everybody in your workplace? I know it's poor form to create parallels between RL and a game, but I also think posting screenshots of or quoting private communications in a public forum is poor form as well.
Again, I don't have a problem with spying, everybody does it, I'm just not a big fan of publicising private comms.
And Riddari, I only stay step back because you and Druid are both getting a little hot under the collar, and while it's relatively amusing to read, it's becoming of neither of you. ----------
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
[923]
Originally by: Reddari Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
And
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names..
How Else am I, or anyone supposed to interpret this other than you're going to reveal Dev's REAL NAMES and who they are IN BOB.
And Coaster, I apologize bud, I missed your post earlier, I'll send you an evemail when I get home in a bit
-Druid
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre |
AnA1t
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
[924]
All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:09:00 -
[925]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
No mate diplomacy does'nt come into this. Threatening to reveal the main characters of devs has nothing to do with diplomacy. --------------
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:11:00 -
[926]
33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply! ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:12:00 -
[927]
Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: Reddari Their dev names are not their real life names..
How Else am I, or anyone supposed to interpret this other than you're going to reveal Dev's REAL NAMES and who they are IN BOB.
I would have put say Player A = Dev X
Neither includes their real life name, so it doesn't break EULA.
It is a moot point but I'm fascinated to see how you came to the above conclusion.
My forum-berserk mode is off. It was a good sprint
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:14:00 -
[928]
Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Reddari For the record.
Exposing any Dev chars would be a royal pain for them as they have worked as hard skilling up as the rest of us and would probably have to abandon the characters.
This is why I will not do it.
But...
I'm incredibly pleased to see that BOBites actually have to struggle to come to terms with what is out-of-game and what is in-game knowledge and how to utilise it.
Seriously, you have spied, lied, deceited for 4 years and you are not about to change your spots.
You are no angels. And you deserve no angel representation of yourselves on the forums, try as you may.
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works.
Excuse me. Who says you or any others dictates how things work in this game, or in RL for that matter? How one executes a threat is under the one who threat`s discretion. But again, mostly everyone will utilize every possible resource and utility to ensure its survival. In war, laws (rules) are usually a thing one forgets and hides away.
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: AnA1t All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
Erm who said we didnt like ASCN ? We are here for the fun and challanges this game has to offer. Nothing personal, people have been telling us to go after ASCN for such a long time now. And yes calling us cowards for not doing so, we didnt care. Its just come down to one alliance that can actually give us a challange and arent afraid to bring it. Should be fun for both sides and forum wars are a part of the game. Looking forward to fighting them and having some heated forum arguments.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[930]
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Coranor You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way.
Diplomacy 101 class is full for this semester, check back in January.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[931]
imho devs and gms shouldnt be in any alliances cuz whenever that alliance is war there will be always someone pointing out that devs/gms r helping them to win.
and cuz thats very hard to check i guess and they will prolly cover it up good there cant be any proofs did they helped or not.
so better dont let them be in such megacorps/alliances where they can be accused of something like that.
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AnA1t
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[932]
Edited by: AnA1t on 30/09/2006 01:15:34 Im starting to think that Devs shouldnt have chars in any alliance, just bad for bussiness. Once you make friends, you are never trully unbiased, never. Especially in a game lol.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[933]
Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Reddari Bawk Bawk Bawk Bawk!
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works.
Yeah DO IT! You're not gonna do it, because you don't know the names! Loser! Do IT! Yeah you can't, thats what I thought! Do IT! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:15:00 -
[934]
Originally by: Kryztal Looking forward to fighting them and having some heated forum arguments.
33 pages. Not bad.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:16:00 -
[935]
Originally by: Darko1107 33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply!
Amen.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:17:00 -
[936]
Originally by: AnA1t Im starting to think that Devs shouldnt have chars in any alliance, just bad for bussiness. Once you make frieds, you are never trully unbiased, never. Especially in a game lol.
Their jobs are presumably more worth to them than the game is. I don't worry about their impartiality even if someone tried to put those words into my mouth.
If Devs weren't in alliances they wouldn't get to know first hand about how they work and how the broken stuff can be fixed.
I'm all for them trying everything out, its a pity just two of them like to mine though but it explains why the industrial people are pretty much shafted.
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:17:00 -
[937]
Originally by: Reddari I would have put say Player A = Dev X
Neither includes their real life name, so it doesn't break EULA.
I don't have the EULA pulled up in front of me, but there's gotta be something about 'interfering with gameplay of CCP employees'.
Even with it isn't technically against the rules, That's still extremely poor form. Proves what kind of character you've got.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:18:00 -
[938]
Originally by: KSUDruid Proves what kind of character you've got.
Charisma 26 thank you.
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Cassiuss
Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:19:00 -
[939]
I am sure there are Devs in ASCN as well. If they are playing in alliance warfare thats cool, as long as they are using the same game mechanics as me. Which Iam confident they are. Lets keep the smack on this forum at least intelligible...pls.
Cassiuss, STK-S Recruitment Officer
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:19:00 -
[940]
Originally by: Darko1107 33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply!
soo your replying ... why ? lol
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:20:00 -
[941]
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: Darko1107 33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply!
soo your replying ... why ? lol
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Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:20:00 -
[942]
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: AnA1t All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
Erm who said we didnt like ASCN ? We are here for the fun and challanges this game has to offer. Nothing personal, people have been telling us to go after ASCN for such a long time now. And yes calling us cowards for not doing so, we didnt care. Its just come down to one alliance that can actually give us a challange and arent afraid to bring it. Should be fun for both sides and forum wars are a part of the game. Looking forward to fighting them and having some heated forum arguments.
I love you already ♥
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:20:00 -
[943]
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Reddari Bawk Bawk Bawk Bawk!
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works.
Yeah DO IT! You're not gonna do it, because you don't know the names! Loser! Do IT! Yeah you can't, thats what I thought! Do IT!
Considering Riddari lives in Iceland, and has been playing since beta (or before), I'd say he does possess that information. I'd also say that he was merely using it as an example for comparison's sake, and it got blown WAY out of proportion. ----------
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Coasterbrian I'd also say that he was merely using it as an example for comparison's sake, and it got blown WAY out of proportion.
To be fair I did post it the guise of a threat.
It worked like I intended it to.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:23:00 -
[945]
I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:24:00 -
[946]
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: Darko1107 33 Pages of utter ****. What the hell are you guys doing! Your argueing about nothing now! Reddari's dev comments and stuff aint even worth a reply!
soo your replying ... why ? lol
Cos this thread is meeennnttaaaaalllllllllllllll.............. ------------------
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:24:00 -
[947]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Who are you?
I was about to ask you the same question.
My points stand. Feel free to address them or STFU.
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Coasterbrian
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:24:00 -
[948]
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Actually, we're probably the closest to a "real" fight that still exists in eve, which is why BoB targetted us in the first place. ----------
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The Fiddler
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:24:00 -
[949]
Am I number 1000?
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:24:00 -
[950]
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Who are you? --
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:25:00 -
[951]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Who are you?
I was about to ask you the same question.
My points stand. Feel free to address them or STFU.
Please come make me stfu. --
Nobody stays behind |
Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:25:00 -
[952]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 30/09/2006 01:26:15
Originally by: Coasterbrian
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Actually, we're probably the closest to a "real" fight that still exists in eve, which is why BoB targetted us in the first place.
D2? RED? There are plenty of good PvP alliances out there who are equally skilled on the field of battle.
Going after industrial alliances and then claiming to be uber is just.... empty.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:25:00 -
[953]
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
ohh god, then we go attack them and what happens. Some noob comes on and says omg you suck you should go attack this and that. If you dont like who we pick then tough.
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Gabba
Species 5618
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:26:00 -
[954]
Excellent post Kryztal, im in ASCN lost 2 ships today and im having a great time losing them. 34 pages so far, anyone know what the record is?
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:26:00 -
[955]
Originally by: The Fiddler Am I number 1000?
1002.
I got 1000 \o/
I also probably got 990 992 994 996 998 and so on. Sorry about that.
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Kryztal
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:28:00 -
[956]
Originally by: Coasterbrian
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Coranor
Originally by: Reddari Bawk Bawk Bawk Bawk!
Translation you were full of ****.
You don't threaten to do something and then just not do anything. It does'nt work that way. Say you're gonna do something then do it, thats how it works.
Yeah DO IT! You're not gonna do it, because you don't know the names! Loser! Do IT! Yeah you can't, thats what I thought! Do IT!
Considering Riddari lives in Iceland, and has been playing since beta (or before), I'd say he does possess that information. I'd also say that he was merely using it as an example for comparison's sake, and it got blown WAY out of proportion.
Soooooooo, maybe, possibly more people live in iceland and play this game. AAaand maybe, possibly they too possess that information. So maybe, possibly a ASCN member shouldnt be talking about Dev's playing EvE balacing the scales in their alliances favor.
Soooo maybe, possibly ... sorry i just had to say it once more
BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon |
Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:28:00 -
[957]
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Cyleth
Originally by: Butter Dog I really wish BoB would stop targetting hybrid industrial alliances like Huzzah, Goons, and ASCN... and go somewhere for a real fight.
Or would the less impressive kill stats dent the egos of their forum warriors?
Who are you?
I was about to ask you the same question.
My points stand. Feel free to address them or STFU.
Please come make me stfu.
I'd be happy to, drop by anytime.
And when I have popped you, you can go back to killing your industrial alliance.
-------- On vacation from ISSN |
Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:28:00 -
[958]
Originally by: Butter Dog D2? RED? There are plenty of good PvP alliances out there who are equally skilled on the field of battle.
D2 and ASCN/AXE/POS are the ones who will do what BOB wants, go out there with fleets and fight back.
RED use a different tactic. POS warfare.
I don't blame BOB. They'll get nice kill ratios probably while the war lasts.
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:29:00 -
[959]
Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: AnA1t All alliances spy, not all of them have their alliance leaders post screenshots, blogs and all other external forums information they can find to falsely incriminate an enemy so they can win a childish forum war. Suddenly ASCN are sploiters, just because BOB doesnt like them, sounds reasonable to me.
I think Reddari is right, if you can post info from out of game forums, he should be able to reveal a few ppls alts. Or is just the BOB double standard. Posting info from an enemys forums is now ok cause BOB did it. BOB fervently denied they spied on ASCN TS before, but now with all the cards on the table, that argument has died.
Erm who said we didnt like ASCN ? We are here for the fun and challanges this game has to offer. Nothing personal, people have been telling us to go after ASCN for such a long time now. And yes calling us cowards for not doing so, we didnt care. Its just come down to one alliance that can actually give us a challange and arent afraid to bring it. Should be fun for both sides and forum wars are a part of the game. Looking forward to fighting them and having some heated forum arguments.
The upmost respect to you kind sir/madam.... great post.
If we could keep the forum crap down it would be a great war, i always liked bob, you guys fight and will always be a challange. Over the past few weeks its been AAA logofski gangs (remember thugs post about not fighting a 60 man bs gang, he would rather log off....priceless), BE afking and logging to do photoshop classes and solidline gangs logging whenever something comes along that can engage them. i must admit the game seemed a bit boring.
Just a shame that the process of this war will most likely in some form cripple us both (put aside the ego, you know im right) leaving room for lesser alliances to claim victories and such. but i understand the reasons, ascn will always fight for our space and to hell with the ratios and killboards. home is home and 5000 people will never forget that
I really wish we could of done this with proper servers tho, imagine 100 v 100 with titans and capitals marching towards each other with support ships buzzing thru the lines, flashes of combat all around.....truely epic... instead its one side not loading or the other unable to activate guns..... and when we get onto pos....sheesh the RA v LV op prooved that the only winners in those fights are the covops and gank fleet watching for ctd dreads lol
anyway, loved the post and for the record i think bob rock but we will out zerg ya in the end you know this :P
Respect thy enemy
CEO Pyrex
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Ulynidd
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:31:00 -
[960]
Clean up time.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 01:36:00 -
[961]
Originally by: Guardian Gestalt
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Guys come off it, I know you seem to be obsessed with the idea of coming onto these forums and painting ASCN as some kind of sploiting alliance but get real.
so you deny that ASCN instructs its pilots to exploit?
Seriously lets find something more entertaining and constructive for these forums. After the last engagement in GQ2 there is little point in either side pointing fingers and claiming innocence.
I'll claim innocence here. I have never once attempted to abuse game mechanics. Ive never flown in a gang with people intentionally abusing game mechanics. Ive never told anyone else they should abuse game mechanics. People in your alliance have, and you are just as bad for defending it. Please spare me the whole "mistakes were made on both sides". thats total bs. From the 4 or 5 sources ive seen today your alliances whole game plan is based on causing lag and crashing servers.
If ASCN wants to make a 500man blob defending their home stations you wont here me complain. However when you make lagstars you cross the line. Even worse is when you flame and accuse AAA and RA of doing these things then defend them them when your own leadership instructs your pilots to do them.
Originally by: Guardian Gestalt
CCP give us a no bull $hit status report on the nodes, so we can design a legit battle plan that will result in some good honest and clean engagements. AKA is it possible to shift node strengths like that in Jita down to hot systems in the south. If not, state it blantantly so both BoB and ASCN don't waste hours of our days in anticipation for ongoing engagements.
I think both sides want a good clean war.
Cheers
Thats some pretty weak propaganda. Your leaders instruct their members to create lagstars and then you come on here acting like you are interested preventing lag and having fair fights.
TBH an appology from ASCN leadership to the entire eve community would not be out of line here.
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