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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Liet Traep Yeah this reminds me of the beginning of xetic/.5 war. That's okay I'm not going to be queing up in feyth everyday day to die now. I'm going to grab some popcorn and a tinfoil hat and enjoy the next couple of weeks.
C'mon down Liet, I will still lose more ships than you this time round as well
(luckily I have 130 Ares in Esa to keep me going, cheap ships 4tw) :)
Fitz, I'm already down. I was chasing some of your hobbit kin down in esoteria earlier. :) Good luck with the fighting.
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Evelyn Exe on 28/09/2006 18:01:36 meh I am not getting into the smack with you guys, you are masters.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:02:00 -
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The Winds of Change
As we look at the Universe of EvE today we find ourselves in an ever increasing environment of hostility and Evil.
Our Foes are not the honorable combat pilots of BoB, the5, or the MC who do not need sploits and cheats to win on the battle field. Our Foes are some of the most dishonorable and worst players in the history of online gamming.
They fight to expand their ability to gain and sell ISK & Loot out of game. They fight to prove to the universe that they are better then YOU, because they can get away with anything.
They donÆt care about EvE as a game or the Community of Players that built this game from day 1 into what it is today. They only care about what they can get out of it for their selfish selves.
They donÆt want to Play Eve to win it, they just want to take advantage of what others have built.
In combat today we are faced with: 1) MASSIVE log in traps -100 or more members of the same organization that all just happen to log in at the same time in the same system and cause so much lag and CTD that the defender has almost no chance at survival. Their Excuse ôWe just all decided to play at the same timeö (and the GMÆs buy it)
2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
4) SUPER DEEP space ôsafespotsö or sploitspots -Although ôfixedö several patches ago and making new ones declared an exploit it is NEEVR enforced. Using deep space probes almost anyone that has a bit of creativity can create off grid safe spots 200-300 even 400 AU from anything, effectively making them completely invincible to defending forces. They can place an infinite amount of supplies at these locations with near 100% certainty that they will never be compromised. The Excuse ôSince you can make them using in-game tools its totally legalö
5) LOG OFF, log on alt -Need to save your ship during combat or Lag, easy. Log of your main and immediately log on another character that is on that same account. Poof, the main disappears regardless of PvP ôsa***uardsö. Or better yet, do it as soon as you jump through a gate and you never appear on the other side. BUT, when you log back in you are on the other side, do it with 100 of your friends, and BAM, instant log on trap on the other side of the gate and the defensive force NEVER even got to shoot you. Even though this has been deemed and Exploit, it happens all the damn time today. The Excuse: ôWe canÆt prove thatÆs what happened, maybe they CTD when they jumpedö ûSee also #1 The universe of EvE today is slowly being taken over by thugs. Not the thugs that enjoy combat and honorable gamming but those that only care about ruining the game for as many others as possible.
As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above. Until CCP posts publicly that these are Exploits and publicly states they will start enforcing bans against their users, I say **** Um. If ASCN comes under attack and we have 600 players crash the server maybe CCP will finally realize the scope of the problem that have. The good players of EvE do not deserve to get their asses handed to them in every battle because we refuse to break the rules when our enemies have been getting away with it for years, and now the use of such ôtacticsö are becoming epidemic.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:07:00 -
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This was posted on "Monday 21 August 2006" in regards to sploits by other entities. ASCN would never use these tactics against BOB and others who do not use them. However BOB seem less honorable themselves misquoting and spying to get the quote in the first place...... the fact that bob leaders openly posted spied blogs shows they are not worthy of the admiration they seem to have.
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Hydraxian
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:07:00 -
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Cyvok & ASCN Ftw
Good Hunting and good luck
Signature hijacks ftw
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Alpine 69
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:08:00 -
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looks like there are "Interesting" times ahead....
lets lock n load.
rokh n roll baby :D Oh noes! Somebody stuck his nerfbat in my sig :( |
Kurieg
Universal Manufacturing Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:08:00 -
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And CYVOK is right on that score. Every single player-conflict driven MMOG creator needs to understand that a professional officiating crew is *required* for good player competition. It's ultimately a stupid strategy to rely on player's to both fight AND officiate themselves.
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:09:00 -
[218]
Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song. ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
Galimiy Portret
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö...
*snip* (some text placed totally out of context) *snip*
... call them I have just listed above.
OMG. I thought BoB was better than this.
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Son
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:11:00 -
[220]
That's not good, that's the best notice I've never read from EvE-O.
War, war never changes, war is our life, war is my fun. Have fun & enjoy, I'll do. Thank you.
Originally by: "Frools" We will fight to the last isk and carbon atom available.
/signed, I don't have better words to say the same.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:12:00 -
[221]
Lag fest 06.
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:12:00 -
[222]
That's one heck of a blatant misquote, then.
Stupidly done, of course, since it is so easy to debunk. And spying on private forums doesn't exactly show the honor someone vying for the moral highground should have, either. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
rmfHathor
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:13:00 -
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Why did TWD venture that sleazy attempt at misinformation knowing full well that all it would take is the posting of the full document to make him look like a bad?
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SkaffenAmtiskaw
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Darko1107 Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song.
The video rocks too.
Oh, and ASCN, I really wouldn't get all high and mighty about forum spying - it goes both ways. ______
'A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc.' - Wrangler on m0o corp. |
Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Darko1107 Prodigy/Pendulum - Voodoo People.
Brilliant song.
QFT .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
Real men use blasters |
Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:14:00 -
[226]
Should be good fun, and to re-itterate what Fit'Zeh said may the fights be good, and may the lag monster be ever un-present or at least sleeping at the right times.
Catch ya in space ASCN.
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03! |
Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:15:00 -
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I think i just did a sex wee in my pants.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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BoinKlasik
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:15:00 -
[228]
where the hell is DB Preacher anyway? He used to post a lot it seems O.o
Originally by: Xrak Lag fest 06.
Way better name than GSW, LF06? sounds like two 0.0 systems to me.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Dobbs I think i just did a sex wee in my pants.
Dobbs, we need to find you some professional help.
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TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:19:00 -
[230]
Forum Spying is one thing, But lying and misquoting to the EVE public is another.. I spy on ASCN, but i at least want the truth to be told, not a spin on it for my benefit.
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Grihmstein
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Grihmstein on 28/09/2006 18:20:38
You can tell I dont use these boards a lot. Stupid thing posted with my market search alt. Reposting with default below.
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DTee
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: DTee on 28/09/2006 18:22:21 For crying out loud. The ASCN screaming bloody murder about mis-quoting :/ Just give it a rest. Everyone seen the most recent document by now. So the damage control you are TRYING to do doesn't work. Please post the full document that the first part of the quote was taken from.
All is fair in love and war (within the game rules) in reference to spying intelligence etc. I'm sure everyone has a spy everywhere. So lets just get it on have a nice clean fight and have fun. without crying like little girls.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Farham on 28/09/2006 18:21:42
Quote: Oh, and ASCN, I really wouldn't get all high and mighty about forum spying - it goes both ways.
The difference is ASCN isn't trying to make a respectable foe like BOB look bad by posting partial snippets of a statement that has nothing to do with this conflict.
Not only that but with the original post here now with the full context, TWD just really made your honorable alliance look a little petty.
Either way, good luck, I have plenty of ships for you to come kill.
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Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
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That's one hell of a misquote TWD. What's wrong? BoB spin is usually to a much higher standard than this. CYVOK was even paying your alliance some very nice compliments that got edited out
CAPTAIN THUNK
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
Ria Sotori
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:22:00 -
[235]
So many hobbits... I need more ammo :D
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:25:00 -
[236]
How i wish i was involved.. if any of my old ASCN chum(p)s read this, good luck, god speed..
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
Maruk Ihnati
Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Just to show what kind of people we are facing:
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
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2) MASSIVE Lag Sploits -100Æs of shuttles, frigates, and cans filled with 10-20 units of ammo jetted into space during combat. Causing yet more lag and confusion among the forces of Good. Their Excuse: ô Some of our members got podded and need a new ship, or need ammoö (and the GMÆs buy it)
3) MASSIVE concentrations of pointless gear -Offline and unanchored control towers, weapons, and other structures floating inside a POS shield. 100Æs of maintenance drones abandoned inside POS Shields and 100Æs of abandoned ships inside POS shields. Causing so much lag that even a small fleet of 10 dreads upon arrival cant even activate a module before they get destroyed by enemy snipers. The Excuse ôWe cannot limit what a player places at their own Star Baseö.
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As ASCN heads into the jaws of Kali I hereby authorize the use of all the ôtacticsö as the GMÆs call them I have just listed above.
Thank you for taking this and putting it out of context.
The first paragraph is stating facts about eve's gameplay.
No.2 and 3, are the exploits WE have faced from a blog long ago.
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Ordo Abchao
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:27:00 -
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All your base are belong to us, destruction is at hand, make your time!
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:28:00 -
[239]
Good luck ya'll!
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Maruk Ihnati
Originally by: Cyvok
What are allowed ôtacticsö
Well, if it comes down to it we can count on 1 thing, lag. The serves donÆt seem to be able to handle large fleet battles and they seem to favor defenders inside a POS shield. So simply placing 300 ASCN members inside a POS and launching about 300 fighters to take out Dreads should crash the node. I, like all of you would prefer a good fight, but lets just accept that with the server hardware the way it is, that is unlikely.
Thank you for taking this and putting it out of context.
The first paragraph is stating facts about eve's gameplay.
No.2 and 3, are the exploits WE have faced from a blog long ago.
So wtf is the first part of the quote about?!?
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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