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Boom Laison
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.11 06:48:03 -
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This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.) |
Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage
RAZOR Alliance
643
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Posted - 2015.09.11 06:56:25 -
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Boom Laison wrote:This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.)
Game of alts.
CCP have probably abandoned the concept of WIS entirely because it straight up doesn't mesh well with the rest of the game. How completely lame would it be to have your 3bil hg clone get killed while you were logged off asleep?
Yes I know that a form of this is coming in terms of station destruction in null but that's not the same as say getting assassinated by a plant who quit corp a day after settling in to your staging station.
Combat related WIS is simply not a good idea.
That's not to say WIS has no place its just that you're going to face an uphill battle from the sabre rattlers still cooing the doom call of incarna.
I really wish those guys would just **** off and get out of the way. CCP could never pull another incarna and survive we don't need the incessant nay saying of the myopic trolls.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
409
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Posted - 2015.09.11 07:44:27 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Boom Laison wrote:This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.) Game of alts. CCP have probably abandoned the concept of WIS entirely because it straight up doesn't mesh well with the rest of the game.
All the more reason to implement it.
The games content needs a side-grade.
Plenty of people (I would argue most) who don't really care for what EVE offers in terms of gameplay, but appreciate the universe itself and would be happy to do other stuff in it which doesn't involve being a spaceship or playing a laggy FPS. |
Flynn Fetladral
Alekhine's Gun
Decayed Orbit
557
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Posted - 2015.09.11 07:48:34 -
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I did really like the in station mini-game they showed off before. They should release that as a standalone iOS game.
Oh and we used a little officer mods. KIDDING! We used a lot of officers mods, A LOT! Because we donGÇÖt :censored: around in low-sec.
@flynnfetladral on #tweetfleet
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
409
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Posted - 2015.09.11 07:52:49 -
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At this point it would probably be best if ruin-exploration was kept on the eve client, but massive station environments had its own independent client that could be used to access character data from any of the eve related games. Best way to get everyone interacting imo. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
4101
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Posted - 2015.09.11 08:41:36 -
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Desslok VonReich wrote:Wow. Pages of "WiS is good/bad", "Burn Jita was about this/that", and lots of personal attacks.
And not a single post with new, compelling, solid gameplay for WiS. And absolutely nothing that would actually be an immersive capsuleer experience.
Capsuleers have all the promise that trans-humanism can offer and the best you all come up with is sitting at a bar for a drink or playing cards?
You have the ability to transfer consciousness at will, and the psychological ability to feel comfortable in non-humanoid bodies (ie, giant metal space death machines). And your game play is sitting on a bar stool. Sad. More than that, it's the small thinking of small people.
Since capusleers are no longer bound by the limitations, or even the very form of human flesh, how about this as an example. Dinosaurs. Or tanks. Actually, make them dinosaur tanks. Deathmatch dinosaur tanks. That would be a lot more interesting to gamble on than blackjack.
Now stop thinking like planet bound peasants and start thinking like the god machines you are.
Welcome, noob. You don't know what was discussed when it was the time to discuss ways in which CCP could save Incarna. More importantly, you weren't here taking a endless barrage of flak form every troll in the forums for two years, until it was made evident that CCP had abandoned WiS forever.
We don't care about your megalomania. I personally have dreams so big that you'd squint the eyes if you realized what they involve...
But so far, CCP doesn't wants to let us share our CQ with another character, despite how that code exists and was being tested 3 years ago.
Capsuleers as dinosaurs, you say. CCP is not willing not even to release a few clothes...
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Cancel Align NOW
Maas Industries
587
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Posted - 2015.09.11 09:23:42 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Desslok VonReich wrote:Wow. Pages of "WiS is good/bad", "Burn Jita was about this/that", and lots of personal attacks.
And not a single post with new, compelling, solid gameplay for WiS. And absolutely nothing that would actually be an immersive capsuleer experience.
Capsuleers have all the promise that trans-humanism can offer and the best you all come up with is sitting at a bar for a drink or playing cards?
You have the ability to transfer consciousness at will, and the psychological ability to feel comfortable in non-humanoid bodies (ie, giant metal space death machines). And your game play is sitting on a bar stool. Sad. More than that, it's the small thinking of small people.
Since capusleers are no longer bound by the limitations, or even the very form of human flesh, how about this as an example. Dinosaurs. Or tanks. Actually, make them dinosaur tanks. Deathmatch dinosaur tanks. That would be a lot more interesting to gamble on than blackjack.
Now stop thinking like planet bound peasants and start thinking like the god machines you are.
Welcome, noob. You don't know what was discussed when it was the time to discuss ways in which CCP could save Incarna. More importantly, you weren't here taking a endless barrage of flak form every troll in the forums for two years, until it was made evident that CCP had abandoned WiS forever. We don't care about your megalomania. I personally have dreams so big that you'd squint the eyes if you realized what they involve... But so far, CCP doesn't wants to let us share our CQ with another character, despite how that code exists and was being tested 3 years ago. Capsuleers as dinosaurs, you say. CCP is not willing not even to release a few clothes...
Quoting for posterity. Loving the lore.
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
410
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Posted - 2015.09.11 09:27:42 -
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CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.
On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.
At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
4101
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Posted - 2015.09.11 09:50:40 -
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Kuronaga wrote:CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.
On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.
At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one.
From what we know through interviews, it is likely that Hilmar was very very disappointed with EVE's failure to carry the weight of WiS. His ideas about VR are quite bold and his best personal chance to forward them was Incarna.
He may now build VR arcades for mobiles and VR shooters for PC, but the real deal for him would be VR human interaction. So maybe that is coming some day, just not in EVE, whose playerbase and realities are not up to Hilmar's dreams.
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
411
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Posted - 2015.09.11 10:08:05 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Kuronaga wrote:CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.
On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.
At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one. From what we know through interviews, it is likely that Hilmar was very very disappointed with EVE's failure to carry the weight of WiS. His ideas about VR are quite bold and his best personal chance to forward them was Incarna. He may now build VR arcades for mobiles and VR shooters for PC, but the real deal for him would be VR human interaction. So maybe that is coming some day, just not in EVE, whose playerbase and realities are not up to Hilmar's dreams.
If he couldn't even get WiS to work there is no way in hell he has a proper vision for anything beyond man-in-machine VR. |
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Avanda Redblade
SL33P3R C3LL
1
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Posted - 2015.09.11 11:33:41 -
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Yes I would like this please. |
Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
51889
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Posted - 2015.09.11 11:47:03 -
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Everyday we be walkin'.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel
Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò
Gû+ -¦-âss
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
4101
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Posted - 2015.09.11 11:59:18 -
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Oh, but nobody walks in LA.
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
51889
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Posted - 2015.09.11 12:09:22 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
My characters enjoy walking in stations all the time. Host friends, socialise, drink, enjoy dinners. You name it.
Nothing quite like coffee with friends after dunking that T3 fleet or ganking some caps.
Four channels alone dedicated to our family's palatial Amarr quarters home-away-from-home.
Would be nice though if more of it could be seen and shared beyond imagination and an MOTD.
But meanwhile there's no salt ... only suga.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel
Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò
Gû+ -¦-âss
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
9403
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Posted - 2015.09.11 16:16:51 -
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If I have 3 prostitutes, I would like to have a brothel to use them like they are supposed to.
Witcher 3 have them, why we cant?
And think about multiplayer options.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
433
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Posted - 2015.09.11 21:28:50 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:If I have 3 prostitutes, I would like to have a brothel to use them like they are supposed to.
Witcher 3 have them, why we cant?
And think about multiplayer options.
I prefer real prostitutes to cheap porn sold as "content"
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
383
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:09:02 -
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I wanted to open a bar in Amamake and name it "Amagankme Bar" ... now I will never be able to fulfill that dream.
Maybe we'll get a VR character-posing tool ... add some music and alcohol ...
In the mean time I hope Legion doesn't bite the Dust 
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26044
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:12:33 -
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Kuronaga wrote:CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.
Funnily enough, the riots weren't even really about WiS.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1507
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:25:15 -
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try p0rnhub, its much more staisfying ;)
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Johan Civire
Flux Technologies Inc
Gentlemen's.Parlor
968
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Posted - 2015.09.12 18:49:40 -
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Lan Wang wrote:try p0rnhub, its much more staisfying ;)
You are thinking lets troll its more funny than the topic? some people want answer not troll if you have nothing to say then trolling stfu and let those people talk. Sick of those kind of people posting this nonsense every time just for stupid thumbs up.
DEV remove my post and that post. Thank you. |
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
384
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:23:43 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Lan Wang wrote:try p0rnhub, its much more staisfying ;) You are thinking lets troll its more funny than the topic? some people want answer not troll if you have nothing to say then trolling stfu and let those people talk. Sick of those kind of people posting this nonsense every time just for stupid thumbs up. DEV remove my post and that post. Thank you.
Please don't.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26047
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:31:56 -
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Johan Civire wrote:
You are thinking lets troll its more funny than the topic? some people want answer not troll if you have nothing to say then trolling stfu and let those people talk.
Answer to what? There haven't been any new developments, including any new and unanswered questions, on this topic for many years now.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
52069
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Posted - 2015.09.12 19:32:39 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:I wanted to open a bar in Amamake and name it "Amagankme Bar" ... now I will never be able to fulfill that dream.
Why not? I have a restaurant in Matari space.
It doesn't have a witty or edgy name, though the lobster is unparalleled.
Just poke if you and your special someone ever wish to utilize the channel sometime.
Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!
Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel
Gû+ wor-+-+ole d+¦ary + c-+arac-éer -¦+¦o-ò
Gû+ -¦-âss
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Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.09.12 21:03:12 -
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They have station interior for dust I think can't we just have that ? |
Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
1995
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Posted - 2015.09.13 09:50:51 -
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I hope that CCP start development of avatar base gameplay soon, seeing how they have almost fixed every ship based issue that needed fixing back when CQ was introduced.
I'm not interested in WIS as a social area, I would rather CCP focus on some meaningful gameplay. It could be used to revitalise PVE and exploration... Imagain traveling into a wormhole, docking with a sleeper structure and exploring what is hidden inside.
I strongly believe avatar gamplay is vital if EVE is to survive another 5-10 years.
You sound like an idiot when you say "create content" when you mean find a fight, gank, etc... Stop it!
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Salvos Rhoska
1431
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Posted - 2015.09.13 10:35:12 -
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Its chance came and went when all that time, effort and money invested came up with nothing.
Too bad. Too sad.
PvE v PvP
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Hal Morsh
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
408
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Posted - 2015.09.14 00:25:44 -
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Amber Starview wrote:They have station interior for dust I think can't we just have that ?
I said the same damn thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58UeNWldAaI&index=35&list=FLWZW72v-IYwPH5IC-mg_U7g
The reason this one existed was for the playstation avatar lobby thing, which no longer exists entirely i'm pretty sure.
It's pretty old, but here's what progress they had 2008 or previous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E&list=FLWZW72v-IYwPH5IC-mg_U7g&index=9
I thought of it as a waste to have finished it THAT far then quit. They had actual pod bays.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Desslok VonReich
Acadia Investment Group
2
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Posted - 2015.09.14 04:19:49 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Welcome, noob. You don't know what was discussed when it was the time to discuss ways in which CCP could save Incarna. More importantly, you weren't here taking a endless barrage of flak form every troll in the forums for two years, until it was made evident that CCP had abandoned WiS forever.
Cripes, I have alts older than your character...
Its hard to tell between your attacks on myself and CCP, but I think you'd agree then there there has not been shown any compelling game play presented that has a hope of being implemented? |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
434
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Posted - 2015.09.14 10:03:36 -
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Rek Seven wrote:I hope that CCP start development of avatar base gameplay soon, seeing how they have almost fixed every ship based issue that needed fixing back when CQ was introduced.
You don't undock much do you.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
404929
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:05:03 -
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Walking in stations already exists. All we need to add is guns, blood and more rooms.
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My Fanclub
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