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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2015.12.30 05:41:35 -
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Rain6637 wrote:This thread is group therapy where everyone shares their disappointment to get it out.
Welcome, MidnightWyvern.
Yeah I'm disappointed he no longer has me blue.
What did I do to be reset?
I hope the door opens one day. I'll go find him.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
122
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Posted - 2015.12.30 05:51:33 -
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Rain6637 wrote:This thread is group therapy where everyone shares their disappointment to get it out.
Welcome, MidnightWyvern.
Yeah, this thread is basically the entirety of General Discussion on the Dust 514 forums right now.
I think what really gets me is hanging out with friends on campus and showing them the Future Vision trailer and all the work-in-progress WiS stuff and how many people said they were excited to get into the game. And then it never actually happened.
It seems like Valkyrie is going to have some kind of avatar-based social spaces, though, based on the artwork in the EVE: Universe art book. I'm just hoping they eventually decide to revisit their decision to cancel WiS and bring it back as a social area for all their games to intermingle.
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
(EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33141
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Posted - 2015.12.30 07:14:10 -
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The best chance at winning hearts and minds are other games that feature avatar gameplay. I want to be as nice as possible buuut sometimes it's fear and competition that's needed. EVE would have been a frontrunner if it happened the first time around.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2451
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Posted - 2015.12.30 07:15:34 -
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I have a dream
It would be so cool if we could leave our CQ and then walk into Dust social areas.
If we have a Dust account we could "swop" games and just go out shooting with them.
After that, then we have things like deploying them against people's PI, towers, stations and defending those things.
Them needing our ships to move systems ... (and the ability to jettison them) 
... and just imagine if we could invite some dude into our CQ then turn our ship around and blow them away?! 
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33141
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Posted - 2015.12.30 07:16:39 -
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I would prefer stuffing them down the trash compactor chute
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2451
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Posted - 2015.12.30 07:17:42 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I would prefer stuffing them down the trash compactor chute
Fire them out as "flares", ignite their power backs and take out approaching bombs or missiles!!! 
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33141
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Posted - 2015.12.30 08:40:53 -
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power backs is actually my signature move in bed
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29259
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Posted - 2015.12.30 11:59:05 -
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Rain6637 wrote:power backs is actually my signature move in bed
Could you elaborate on that?
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29259
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Posted - 2015.12.30 12:07:05 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Why brawls? WIS initially was planned as glorified lobby, with CQ, bars, shops and some kind of strategic table game and meeting room. At least all of that was in trailers and demos.
Avatar exploration demo was later. It was planned to make it dangerous, sites with open PvP.
And a girl pulling a gun.
See that EVE trailer... Forever? Future visions?
I don't even recall, but it was right at the end.
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
126
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Posted - 2015.12.30 14:43:33 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Why brawls? WIS initially was planned as glorified lobby, with CQ, bars, shops and some kind of strategic table game and meeting room. At least all of that was in trailers and demos.
Avatar exploration demo was later. It was planned to make it dangerous, sites with open PvP. And a girl pulling a gun. See that EVE trailer... Forever? Future visions? I don't even recall, but it was right at the end.
I always imagined it kind of like DeusEx: Human Revolution or something. The ability to shoot people in the face, but without being focused on that. Mainly a social/spy type experience.
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
(EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29271
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Posted - 2015.12.30 15:21:55 -
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Never played that.
WiS would be useless without combat elements. They're needed, to keep the weak in check.
Just imagine the hoardS of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station.
Yeah we have that now already, but only with limited gameplay options.
And now imagine what happens when these bears ever undock...
The outcry would be marvellous!
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Hauler Joe
Forced Euthanasia
Soviet-Union
4
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Posted - 2015.12.30 15:35:15 -
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Cahir Ceallach wrote:Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :)
the expansion is call Star Citizen
Capitals are dead
Battleships are dead
CCP killed them.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
1713
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Posted - 2015.12.30 15:42:16 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Why brawls? WIS initially was planned as glorified lobby, with CQ, bars, shops and some kind of strategic table game and meeting room. At least all of that was in trailers and demos.
Avatar exploration demo was later. It was planned to make it dangerous, sites with open PvP. And a girl pulling a gun. See that EVE trailer... Forever? Future visions? I don't even recall, but it was right at the end.
Yes, it was in station. But it was exception like this Raven with laser guns shooting a planet. I actually recall CCP Torfifrans explaining that these station environments would be without agression mechanics. Amd ;ater he wrote on the forums that Avatar exploration had been imagined as dangerous with pvp mechanics.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ GòáGò¼GòªGò¼Gòú - my sandcastle
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ <=X - my yacht
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7923
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Posted - 2015.12.30 15:53:13 -
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Le Sigh.. 'Tis this thread again.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
126
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Posted - 2015.12.30 15:57:43 -
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Hauler Joe wrote:Cahir Ceallach wrote:Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :) the expansion is call Star Citizen
When they finally finish it, maybe.
It should be kept in mind that they've stated earlier their instancing cap will likely still be around 100 players, so I'd hardly say that game is a threat to EVE Online.
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
(EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29277
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Posted - 2015.12.30 16:20:15 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Hauler Joe wrote:Cahir Ceallach wrote:Maybe WIS is back, in this year we have 10 expansion in the year :) the expansion is call Star Citizen When they finally finish it, maybe. It should be kept in mind that they've stated earlier their instancing cap will likely still be around 100 players, so I'd hardly say that game is a threat to EVE Online.
ONE HUNDRED! All at the same place! That's INSANE!
What a technological achievement!
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33146
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:09:21 -
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It totally sucks that only 100 people can show up and board each other's ships and have firefights on board.
Or we could be honest and say damn, that's pretty cool they can board each other's ships and have firefights.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33146
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:10:20 -
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Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29287
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:30:47 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too?
No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game.
The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either.
It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space.
I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it.
Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2202
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:33:29 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too? No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game. The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either. It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space. I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it. Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P
That signature though... 
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29290
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:38:50 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Valkyrie arenas only have what, 20 players max so does that mean valkyrie sucks too? No, because the comparison is invalid. SC is a completely different type of game. The point is that people here somehow believe SC is comparable to EVE, which it isn't really either. It is in no way or form even close and only shares the fact that it's in ******* space. I take the invalid comparison and make fun of it. Thanks for ruining it, Rain. :P That signature though...
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Tristan Agion
Viziam
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2015.12.30 18:41:18 -
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I've read only the first 25 pages of this thread... so excuse me if I repeat a suggestion already made.
But why not simply crowdfund WiS development?
Set a target of US$1M, or whatever would be enough to get something meaningful done, and see whether it flies on kickstarter.
WiS supporters could put their money where their mouth is. And those disinterested in WiS would not need to worry about it cannibalising other EVE development. |
Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29293
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:00:20 -
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Tristan Agion wrote:I've read only the first 25 pages of this thread... so excuse me if I repeat a suggestion already made.
But why not simply crowdfund WiS development?
Set a target of US$1M, or whatever would be enough to get something meaningful done, and see whether it flies on kickstarter.
WiS supporters could put their money where their mouth is. And those disinterested in WiS would not need to worry about it cannibalising other EVE development.
But but but they can't pay kickstarter with ISK...
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Snuffed Out
4510
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:06:52 -
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i wonder how well a crowdfunding campaign for a product a company has previously bungled and written off would go |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Snuffed Out
4510
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:12:26 -
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in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash |
Tristan Agion
Viziam
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:29:29 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash
If you have the cash, then you can hire the capability and willingness.
This stuff isn't exactly cutting edge nowadays, isn't it? In particular not if you start with non-combat, social interactions where you do not have to worry about millisecond timings, rag doll physics, etc. I have a hard time believing that CCP would struggle finding relevant talent to hire.
It seems to me that crowdfunding would largely take away the financial risk for CCP, and it would legitimise such development in view of the past - since obviously it then would be a development wanted by the all those EVE players chipping in.
And we could finally gauge just how many EVE players find this important enough to pay a significant amount of money for it. If such a kickstarter over-funds to several million dollars, then that's a clear sign. If it fails with just a few thousand dollars, then that is also a clear sign. |
Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
29295
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:33:32 -
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Ha! I know the perfect name for such a crowdfunded expansion!
.... wait for it ...
EVE ONLINE: Star Citizen.
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13239
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Posted - 2015.12.30 19:57:48 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:in seriousness i imagine there's a lack of capability and willingness on ccp's part. it's not just a matter of cash
Along with the fact that EVE is old and full of 'spaghetti code' and thus a really bad candidate for 'rigging stuff onto'.
That being said, I'd love to see a kickstarter for this. It would shut up the WiS fringe one way or another.
It won't happen, the kinds of people who want to see WiS (or other 'mass appeal' type things to 'bring in more people') are the kind of folks who think "well, that's CCPs job to give us stuff, not mine".
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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
Fortis Et Certus
220
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Posted - 2015.12.30 20:11:50 -
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I belive that CCP might begin thinking of making EVE 2.0 and transfer all players assest to the New game... then apply WiS there.
As now, EVE is now a old game....which aint attracting new players in nearly same amount as before. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9746
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Posted - 2015.12.30 20:27:28 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Just imagine the hoardS of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station.
Seems like EVE as usual, to me.
At any given time in any area of space, you'll find thousands of cowards chestbeating from the safety of their station. The only difference is they're sitting just inside docking range instead of in the actual station. Even then, there are thousands more harassing in local that will never undock and engage in combat.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike WIS but what you said is not one of them.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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