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Neph
Operation Meatshield
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Posted - 2015.08.23 06:58:47 -
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Remus Vosk wrote:Not signed.
As much as I respect my Amarr allies and their faith. Nothing should stand in the way of free enterprise and commercial activity. Those who have worked hard to establish their business on the selling and buying of slaves have a right to keep that business and not have it be cut out from under them. Think of how many families are fed, housed, and clothed because of this business. We must not allow those people to end up suffering because of some moral or religious stance.
As much as I respect the strong fundamentals of the State and those that comprise it, your opinion is bizarrely hypocritical. Limiting the 'purchase' of slaves--people themselves, although many would like to forget that damming fact--is a first step towards abolishing the practice entirely, especially when you're limiting it from us absurdly wealthy capsuleers. "Think of how many families are fed, housed, and clothed"? Think of how many families are born into bondage because of this practice. "We must not allow those people to end up suffering because of some moral or religious stance"? We must not these people to continue suffering because of a business or economic stance.
Signed. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1183
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Posted - 2015.08.23 08:05:04 -
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Neph wrote:Limiting the 'purchase' of slaves [...] is a first step towards abolishing the practice entirely, especially when you're limiting it from us absurdly wealthy capsuleers.
Not in this case.
In this case, the intent is to limit the trafficking in slaves to those with theological claims on those people in order to strengthen the institution. Not necessarily to render it beyond criticism - the public opinions of the institution aren't even considered. But this is definitely a petition intended to make slavery healthier, not abolish it. |
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.23 11:16:14 -
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Providence is NRDS, I still work there, some of my factories are still there. The CVA overreached their political and theological authority with me in a very stupid incident I won't repeat here as it is fairly tedious.
But suffice it to say, yes, if the Imperium invaded, which they won't, of course I would stand against them. They are an absurd charade, a mockery of the Empire, a blight on the face of nullsec, a refuge of heretics and infidels.
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Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
575
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Posted - 2015.08.23 11:40:29 -
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The Leopardess wrote:The CVA overreached their political and theological authority with me in a very stupid incident I won't repeat here as it is fairly tedious.
That you constantly overreach your political and theological authority in public is much closer to the truth. CVA didn't overreach at all and you're ill advised to try to make them look bad in this: You brought this upon yourself. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1187
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Posted - 2015.08.23 11:53:09 -
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The Leopardess wrote:But suffice it to say, yes, if the Imperium invaded, which they won't, of course I would stand against them. They are an absurd charade, a mockery of the Empire, a blight on the face of nullsec, a refuge of heretics and infidels.
Sure you will, kitten. |
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2015.08.23 11:56:04 -
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Nicoletta Mithra wrote:The Leopardess wrote:The CVA overreached their political and theological authority with me in a very stupid incident I won't repeat here as it is fairly tedious. That you constantly overreach your political and theological authority in public is much closer to the truth. CVA didn't overreach at all and you're ill advised to try to make them look bad in this: You brought this upon yourself.
I chose to leave. I was asked not to. So yes, I did bring this on myself. Oh my you are a little gossiper arn't you? That the individual overreached was the opinion of the CVA officials to me in closing. You don't even know your neighbors that well do you?
At this rate Max might as well just waltz in and burn it to the ground, you'll all be busy congratulating each other on how much gossip you have to bring to the tea party to bother with combat maneuvers.
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque, more like Societas Imperialis Crustulum Te |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1188
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Posted - 2015.08.23 12:03:44 -
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The Leopardess wrote:I chose to leave. I was asked not to. So yes, I did bring this on myself. Oh my you are a little gossiper arn't you? That the individual overreached was the opinion of the CVA officials to me in closing. You don't even know your neighbors that well do you?
At this rate Max might as well just waltz in and burn it to the ground, you'll all be busy congratulating each other on how much gossip you have to bring to the tea party to bother with combat maneuvers.
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque, more like Societas Imperialis Crustulum Te
The only theological authority I recognize is the Theology Council. Are you inventing a new religion or something?
And here we see the mighty kitten seeding the ground so that later she can reap an endless number of rationalizations for why she didn't defend the region... |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2252
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Posted - 2015.08.23 12:03:58 -
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Please take this argument somewhere else.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1188
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Posted - 2015.08.23 12:05:20 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Please take this argument somewhere else.
Quite right. My apologies, Lieutenant. |
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2015.08.23 12:38:31 -
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Arrendis wrote:The Leopardess wrote:I chose to leave. I was asked not to. So yes, I did bring this on myself. Oh my you are a little gossiper arn't you? That the individual overreached was the opinion of the CVA officials to me in closing. You don't even know your neighbors that well do you?
At this rate Max might as well just waltz in and burn it to the ground, you'll all be busy congratulating each other on how much gossip you have to bring to the tea party to bother with combat maneuvers.
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque, more like Societas Imperialis Crustulum Te
The only theological authority I recognize is the Theology Council. Are you inventing a new religion or something? And here we see the mighty kitten seeding the ground so that later she can reap an endless number of rationalizations for why she didn't defend the region...
I'm still docked here, been here for months, and nothing has happened. I go on the combat fleets and nothing has happened. So I'm here and I will fight, cowardice is actually not one of my vices.
Is bloodlust and heresy one of yours? What excuse do you have for threatening the lives of millions of innocent lives down here? Oh it's to find an phantom that doesn't exist. You're treading on very thin ice threatening Amarr's backyard, the Holy Land of God. The excuses are not mine, but yours. First you wanted to invade Providence because of the Empress. Now she's gone - it's about a phantom body...there will always be another excuse for you people.
You know as well as your "Pope" knows that innocents will die and you will forever be hated by the Amarrian people, forever barred from the Kingdom of God and forever damned to live eternally in darkness until you biomass your possibly soulless walking corpse. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1213
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Posted - 2015.08.23 13:14:57 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Please take this argument somewhere else.
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The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2015.08.23 17:31:00 -
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Nice try but I do not take orders from anyone ranking beneath me. You have no answer of course, because there is no correct answer except to apologize to God and submit yourself to his will by leaving Providence alone. Anyone with the Goon, CFC or Imperium related titles beneath their name is damned by God for harassing its people and engaging in war agains the Holy Empire. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1213
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Posted - 2015.08.23 17:34:02 -
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I am respecting the wishes of someone who has earned my respect through her continued and active presence on-field both in the warzone and as a Guardian pilot during multiple Drifter attacks.
Kindly do the same. You and I can have this discussion in another thread if you like... in about... call it two hours? |
Alizebeth Amalath
Sanctus Amarria
134
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Posted - 2015.08.23 18:22:38 -
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This is neither the time or the place. I have requested this thread closed. This issue remains important, but has been overshadowed by events. |
ISD FlowingSpice
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.08.24 00:42:12 -
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Locked on request. |
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