Samira is correct. This is in relation to the Greater Amarrian organizations. I personally would not be upset if all slaves were removed from the SCC market, but that is not what this is about.

If anyone wants to own slaves if this gets any attention from the higher ups (doubtful) they are welcome to join the company I'll set up, granting you permission under my authority to be a slave master. ( i would legally own the slaves but you could "oversee" them as you see fit.) Any Holder would make a lot of money doing this if they did it the right way. Oh and I see the military personnel are now counting themselves as Holders. Nice try, that's earned through providence and bloodlines. What I mean is that it has often been the case that high ranking military and many religious clergy have been allowed to have slaves legally. That doesn't make you mercenaries and boot lickers HOLDERS.

And please, all of this simpering over mere slaves? Do you all have no self respect, Ammarrians? Where is all of the pathetic crying over Sansha's continued reign of terror (vastly overshadowing Naupilus' so-called "crime") or outrage over the continued murder of innocent Ammar Empire citizens at the hands of tribal forces? No, we have to whine on and on about a tiny incident that happened outside the borders of Empire space, to legally purchased slaves. I'm going to guess that the Empress, may God keep her and bless her, is spending hours fretting about the sale of slaves in foreign markets. I'm sure the battle-hardened war-like Caldari are fretting even more than her. Actually no, they're not and I'm sure you're all on some list somewhere now of people who won't have the stomache when the wars escalate and the slave markets explode with product needing homes.

Seems you all have a death wish and hate God's will.

Oh REALLY? You're going to pull the HERETIC card? I love how everyone and their dog loving grandmother seems to have the authority to dictate what IS and what is not HERESY these days! It's as if the Theology Council wasn't necessary anymore, given that they have all of these EAGER VOLUNTEERS!

The Empress herself has ordered the destruction of who knows how many slaves (I know because I have relatives in The Order of St. Tetrimon who carried out the attack on Kor-Azor's slaves). Are you now suggesting that our blessed Empress is a HERETIC? Like I said LISTS. YOU. ON ONE.

Defense of Empire is far more important and crucial than the re-education of slaves, no matter what Gallentean infiltrators would have anyone believe. It is right to dispense of a 1,000 Reclaimed slaves if it will save but one innocent Amarrian, even the lowest of them.

We are at war with the Minmatar Republic and until their aggression ceases, I will view even the most tyrannical slave owner's actions as far less important a crime than the abduction and killing of already-God-fearing CITIZENS.

Placing the safety of a slave above the safety of the Empire is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. Sacrificing yourself for the safety and security of a non-believer slave is worse than anything, you are betraying God's edict to rule, conquer and wreak vengeance on the unholy infidels who turned their backs on their Lord and Master. And you should know that most slaves are stubborn nonbelievers, or you've never worked with the hateful little primitives.

Oh REALLY? You're going to pull the HERETIC card? I love how everyone and their dog loving grandmother seems to have the authority to dictate what IS and what is not HERESY these days! It's as if the Theology Council wasn't necessary anymore, given that they have all of these EAGER VOLUNTEERS!

The Empress herself has ordered the destruction of who knows how many slaves (I know because I have relatives in The Order of St. Tetrimon who carried out the attack on Kor-Azor's slaves). Are you now suggesting that our blessed Empress is a HERETIC? Like I said LISTS. YOU. ON ONE.

Defense of Empire is far more important and crucial than the re-education of slaves, no matter what Gallentean infiltrators would have anyone believe. It is right to dispense of a 1,000 Reclaimed slaves if it will save but one innocent Amarrian, even the lowest of them.

We are at war with the Minmatar Republic and until their aggression ceases, I will view even the most tyrannical slave owner's actions as far less important a crime than the abduction and killing of already-God-fearing CITIZENS.

Placing the safety of a slave above the safety of the Empire is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. Sacrificing yourself for the safety and security of a non-believer slave is worse than anything, you are betraying God's edict to rule, conquer and wreak vengeance on the unholy infidels who turned their backs on their Lord and Master. And you should know that most slaves are stubborn nonbelievers, or you've never worked with the hateful little primitives.

The threats to the Empire are many, your ladyship. We must combat all of them, not just one. And this issue has more to do than just the lives of the slaves. It is about upholding our traditions, traditions that have been eroding greatly over the last century. It is about our divine mandate from God. It is about the fact that the sin of greed has caused certain elements in our society to break Scriptural law regarding the rightful ownership of slaves in order to sell to those who are impure. It is a crime against Amarr and against God, and we must combat this threat as surely as we combat threats of the outside.

The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man.
To do so the enemies of the outside had to be defeated and the enemies of the inside controlled.
-Book I 1:14

We do not do service to Amarr or God when we ignore one threat to fight another. All enemies of the Empire must be defeated, both those without and those within.

Taking slaves off any and all markets would be better. The idea that it's alright to treat people as chattel is really ****** up.

Miss Kernher, please just call me Sayuri. I get what you are saying, but don't you see that is exactly my point? All Amarrian capsuleers seem to like to do these days is fret about paltry issues, or this one politically charged issue, while the big issues that actually threaten Empire space or our values go completely ignored.

One maniac killing Minmatar slaves is not a threat to the Empire. The Gallente and Minmatar empires both hate us already - there is no repair or redemption of friendship there waiting to be had. They will annihilate us completely if they had the chance.

As long as the faithful stand strong in God's light and God's will, we'll never fail. Placing slaves above the worth of Amarrians is the beginning of an end to the covenant we share with our Lord, our promise to engage in Holy War and wreak his Vengeance on those unfaithful to their Lord, Father and Master.

Ha! As opposed to just murdering people like you do? Hypocritical little snot! You ARE God's slave and he will reclaim you inevitably, even if there were no Amarr you would still have to face Retribution and Reclamation.

That idea does not seem really effective...

The Federation holds at it's core the most noble of ideas: to end suffering, real, actual suffering, can you say the same?

Even sansha supporters can say the same.

The Federation proudly, and loudly proclaims it wishes to protect freedom, yet it still holds the Caldari home planet under occupation. I guess those core values only go so far.

Even Blood Raiders claim a monopoly on God.

The Federation proudly, and loudly proclaims it wishes to protect freedom, yet it still holds the Caldari home planet under occupation. I guess those core values only go so far.

The planet is currently under a joint collaboration between the Federation and the Ishukone corporation.

Judging by your response you aren't buying what you are trying to sell, so why spew all this "noble of ideas" nonsense.

While still under the sovereignity of the Federation. That's still occupation.

Why don't you ask the people who live there to pass judgement in that?

Why don't you ask the people who live there to pass judgement in that?