| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 .. 52 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
2Sonas1Cup
73
   |
Posted - 2015.04.27 08:40:21 -
[1] - Quote
Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
208
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 08:47:37 -
[2] - Quote
2Sonas1Cup wrote:Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go.
Your grammar is a bigger problem than Incursions. 
Buddy Program: If you sign up with my buddy invite link and subscribe with a valid payment method - I will give you 95% of the going rate for PLEX!
|
2Sonas1Cup
73
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 08:51:24 -
[3] - Quote
SilentAsTheGrave wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go. Your grammar is a bigger problem than Incursions.
Yea but you understand what Im saying right?
It is really nonsensical how much highsec incursions pay. It kills eve. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
324
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 08:58:09 -
[4] - Quote
If you don't like them don't run them, find something harder to do. Maybe go try to run them in null or low sec. Why should they change it because you don't like getting paid as much as you do in hisec when there are a bunch of others who like it just fine.
|
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
418
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:03:57 -
[5] - Quote
considering they not long ago pretty much buffed them...
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
|
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
324
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:10:59 -
[6] - Quote
I haven't got around to running any yet. But Since they require a fleet to really get a good reward I would say that is more important. And justifies the reward. If you could go solo and get the same reward then it would definitely be over kill. |
2Sonas1Cup
74
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:27:56 -
[7] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:considering they not long ago pretty much buffed them... but yeah they do pay too much for the risk involved
If they were a temporary thing, as they should (sanshas invasion), ok after we deal with them, its done/ dealt with.
But they stayed, and its been killing a major part of the game slowly but surely.
It was good when they started, but have them as a regular thing is just terrible.
CCP could have incursions as an event, every now and then sanshas try to invade highsec for like a month or so, then they stop for 3 or 4 months.
Or just lower their payouts to a balanced level as I said in the first post, instead of 250mil per hour, have them at around 100mil per hour.
And have VGs, assaults and HQs pay all the same. There is no need to have HQs paying more than VGs IMO (but thats a different story) could also boost scouts and give people an incentive to do them. |
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:40:38 -
[8] - Quote
Please, make others' enterprise less profitable, or at least make mine more so! It's only fair!
Though, I don't do anything remotely like these other people, and never go where they are, the
very thought that they're there making ISK just bugs me. So, CCP, take your million dollar machine
and turn it toward my inclinations and personal preferences. You know the Great Gaming God is on my side!
I survived Win95
|
Arla Sarain
387
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:44:49 -
[9] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Please, make others' enterprise less profitable, or at least make mine more so! It's only fair!
Though, I don't do anything remotely like these other people, and never go where they are, the
very thought that they're there making ISK just bugs me. So, CCP, take your million dollar machine
and turn it toward my inclinations and personal preferences. You know the Great Gaming God is on my side!
Why do you sound so intimidated?
Is someone looking at your cash cow funny? |
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:47:08 -
[10] - Quote
Arla Sarain wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Please, make others' enterprise less profitable, or at least make mine more so! It's only fair!
Though, I don't do anything remotely like these other people, and never go where they are, the
very thought that they're there making ISK just bugs me. So, CCP, take your million dollar machine
and turn it toward my inclinations and personal preferences. You know the Great Gaming God is on my side! Why do you sound so intimidated? Is someone looking at your cash cow funny? You won't make much of a psychic. I do hope your education is along some other line, but that is a nice attempt at mind reading. I think "contempt" is the word you're searching for, not "intimidated." You'd have to explain what a "cash cow" is, since you seem so well-versed. For me, I have no idea.
In case you missed the point entirely: "Make EVE the way I want it."
Get in line.
I survived Win95
|
|
|
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
418
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:49:55 -
[11] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Please, make others' enterprise less profitable, or at least make mine more so! It's only fair!
Though, I don't do anything remotely like these other people, and never go where they are, the
very thought that they're there making ISK just bugs me. So, CCP, take your million dollar machine
and turn it toward my inclinations and personal preferences. You know the Great Gaming God is on my side!
no its the fact that they are making the most amount of isk while undocked in the game with practically 0 risk. on a system based on risk vs reward its totally not within that system
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
|
2Sonas1Cup
75
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:50:24 -
[12] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Please, make others' enterprise less profitable, or at least make mine more so! It's only fair!
Though, I don't do anything remotely like these other people, and never go where they are, the
very thought that they're there making ISK just bugs me. So, CCP, take your million dollar machine
and turn it toward my inclinations and personal preferences. You know the Great Gaming God is on my side!
I dont what?
I run incursions since 2011 when they came out mr.
With 2 or 3 accounts, lately only 2 or 1 depends.
I know every single thing about incursions and how bad they truly are. (in terms of how much they destroy the real eve)
Im only here to expose them because Im tired of this "eve" of today and miss the old one, the one without incursions. |
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:50:32 -
[13] - Quote
Tuttomenui II wrote:I haven't got around to running any yet. But Since they require a fleet to really get a good reward I would say that is more important. And justifies the reward. If you could go solo and get the same reward then it would definitely be over kill.
A fleet as requirement is nothing that balances something out.
Besides, there is no shortage of greedy people.
I don't care about the income,
but I care about the lack of risk.
At least my momentarily perceived lack of risk.
What kind of risk is there involved anyway?
It's definitely not hard enough, so that one doesn't count.
It's too predictable to be dangerous.
The highest risk seems to be that people CONCORD themselves,
which doesn't count either, because that has nothing to do with the NPCs.
ECMing logi? Nope.
Smartbombing them? Nope, server bugs it out.
Lowsec? Nope, people are cowards.
So ... what are incursions, besides easy money making?
What content do they provide for anyone but those who run them?
Does anyone remember that these are mostly run by carebears?
Does anyone remember how people whined when their mom got popped, (lol)
calling people griefers for ending an everlasting way t o squeeze money out of it?
Please... provide answers.
I'm curious.
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:51:59 -
[14] - Quote
Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
I survived Win95
|
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:54:41 -
[15] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
Oh. Incursions are content created by CCP. It is their game after all. I guess they can create content, too,
if they WANT to.
This thread looks like it's caught a lot of folks that don't have enough to do.
Address what is being written, carebear.
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
418
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 09:56:08 -
[16] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
Oh. Incursions are content created by CCP. It is their game after all. I guess they can create content, too,
if they WANT to.
This thread looks like it's caught a lot of folks that don't have enough to do.
you sound very bitter whats the crack?
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
|
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15673
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:04:56 -
[17] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
Oh. Incursions are content created by CCP. It is their game after all. I guess they can create content, too,
if they WANT to.
This thread looks like it's caught a lot of folks that don't have enough to do. you sound very bitter whats the crack?
As was said, he doesn't want to lose the cash cow.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
|
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:08:22 -
[18] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
Oh. Incursions are content created by CCP. It is their game after all. I guess they can create content, too,
if they WANT to.
This thread looks like it's caught a lot of folks that don't have enough to do. you sound very bitter whats the crack? As was said, he doesn't want to lose the cash cow.
I wouldn't mind the income if there was any actual risk involved getting it.
Still waiting for a response to what risk there actually is.
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
917
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:08:38 -
[19] - Quote
Otso Bakarti wrote:Ever hear the saying, "Mind your own business?" Or, in this world of the Duly Entitled, are you queen?
Oh. Incursions are content created by CCP. It is their game after all. I guess they can create content, too,
if they WANT to.
This thread looks like it's caught a lot of folks that don't have enough to do.
No, there is a very real argument that a risk-free ISK fountain like Incurions is bad for the game. Only CCP has all the numbers, but if players are choosing to make their ISK in complete safety in highsec instead of in more dangerous spaces, you are asphyxiating PvP opportunities and conflict elsewhere in the game.
Again I don't have access to the numbers, but isn't it true that practically everyone you talk to has an "Incurion alt" for making ISK even if they consider themselves a wormholer or a nullsec player? If so, that is terrible for the game in the long run as there will be less and less targets outside of highsec and all that will be left is meaningless roams where players look for similar players for consensual fights to burn off their Incursion income. If players aren't actually fighting over resources, these inconsequential and random fights will get old quick and the game will stagnate. Sound familiar?
CCP is going to have to turn the ship around soon and part of that will be a major effort to draw players back into more dangerous places like null/low/WH space to fight over income sources, and perhaps this new Jove space in the future. Perhaps they can do it with new and engaging game mechanics and rewards, but I fully expect them to have to dial back Incursion income at least a little to motivate players to leave highsec again.
There is a place for PvE that is cooperative and PvP-free in Eve. It is just not as the most lucrative way to make ISK in the game.
|
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
841
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:13:13 -
[20] - Quote
2Sonas1Cup wrote:Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go.
I don't run incursions, but I have no issues with other players enjoying them, if you want to apply some risk go and war dec some of their corps or gank them, or get into an Incursion with a logi and let them die, but for the love of god stop whining about them because you are incapable of interdicting them, HTFU or WOW is more suited for you!
Ella's Snack bar
|
|
|
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:13:58 -
[21] - Quote
Pedro ... no offense ... but it feels like you overshot that one a bit...
Btw ...
I am Sol ...
... and I don't have an incursion alt. :p
Mostly because it would be of no use and only provide me with money ...
... and unlike most people I wojld be ashamed of myself of needing a 100% guaranteed way to make it.
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:15:12 -
[22] - Quote
This is all what you people who have a bug up your collective butts are saying. Anything you do in EVE if you do it "correctly" has zero to no risk. The very same people claiming risk has to be there, are in other places advising people you can get rid of risk "in certain cases." The sum total of all the advice over time includes all cases eventually.
Now, we've found another place to Chicken Little about. Risk free incursions in high sec. Yeah, maybe. It depends on how you do them, in what and with whom, as in all things EVE. I so wish I could be persuaded by this heartfelt, newly hatched campaign to change someone else's game, 'cause it just isn't "right" (in a game of no rules...with rules.) However, all I see here is an arbitrary selection of something, described and defined in arbitrary language that doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
I somehow think if all the complainers turned their attention to the perfectly balanced way they prefer to play, all this ado about nothing would fade back into the insignificance it rightfully has held for all this time...till now. Then, maybe we should start a program to pay some people not to think.
There is no there there...er, here.
I survived Win95
|
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
420
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:16:04 -
[23] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go. I don't run incursions, but I have no issues with other players enjoying them, if you want to apply some risk go and war dec some of their corps or gank them, or get into an Incursion with a logi and let them die, but for the love of god stop whining about them because you are incapable of interdicting them, HTFU or WOW is more suited for you!
you know most incursion groups tell you not to bother joining if you are wardecced, your argument is pretty invalid, incursion groups are aware of how to avoid the little risk involved.
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
|
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:19:30 -
[24] - Quote
Bullshit.
There is always a risk involved when other players can interfere successfully.
There is no way to ruin the day for incursioneers, though.
You are a carebear.
A griefer and coward.
Hiding behind an alt that's only made for ISK making.
You only care about your ******* wallet.
Post with your main!
Show me you have at least tiny balls!
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:23:05 -
[25] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Bullshit.
There is always a risk involved when other players can interfere successfully.
There is no way to ruin the day for incursioneers, though.
You are a carebear.
A griefer and coward.
Hiding behind an alt that's only made for ISK making.
You only care about your ******* wallet.
Post with your main!
Show me you have at least tiny balls!
Just because you say all this, it's true? Hardly. It's "truism". (I'll ignore your lack of manners.)
I survived Win95
|
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
841
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:32:30 -
[26] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:Dracvlad wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.
Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.
Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.
Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.
Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.
Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?
Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go. I don't run incursions, but I have no issues with other players enjoying them, if you want to apply some risk go and war dec some of their corps or gank them, or get into an Incursion with a logi and let them die, but for the love of god stop whining about them because you are incapable of interdicting them, HTFU or WOW is more suited for you! you know most incursion groups tell you not to bother joining if you are wardecced, your argument is pretty invalid, incursion groups are aware of how to avoid the little risk involved.
So what there are still ways to attack them...
Ella's Snack bar
|
Solecist Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
21842
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:34:11 -
[27] - Quote
Go dec them and see what happens.
Bumping is fine, Ganking is fine.
The real issue are Carebears. Bad people wishing ill and death upon on all of us.
The obvious solution is to wipe them out and make sure they don't come back.
Let's kill them all for the good of EVEmanity.
|
Aladar Dangerface
Zebra Corp
The Bastion
154
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:39:46 -
[28] - Quote
Glad i brought my popcorn to work today. nom nom 
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
|
Otso Bakarti
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:49:16 -
[29] - Quote
Oh were this slightly entertaining, I'd participate more fully. Alas, the risk/benefit equation forbids.
*wanders off seeking a roll of duct tape - to tape the arms back on his Carebear-«*
I survived Win95
|
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
311
|
Posted - 2015.04.27 10:58:44 -
[30] - Quote
If I remember correctly it was said, the most liquid income for individual players comes from nullsec ratting ... I don't think Incursions are a big issue, especially as there is a limited supply of them in highsec.
I'm my own NPC alt.
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 .. 52 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |