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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6499
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Posted - 2015.08.06 06:44:52 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Lucas, give me a direct answer:
Does anyone whose playstyle doesn't match 100% to yours have a say in EVE? Yes or no. I said you playstyle is 100% valid (even if I don't agree with it personally). Would you say the same for mine? Or is it
"anyone who EVEs differently than Lucas is an idiot"
Look forward to your oh so intelligent reply Of course they do. That's why I supported the sov changes in the first place, even though it's a nerf to my playstyle to help a different playstyle. The problem is it's gone way too far, and people who are blinded by "grr goons" are happy to watch the game be destroyed as long as it make ore playstyle boring.
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Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:04:57 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Adapt.
Stinks of ulterior and vested motives in here.
God damned, my irony meter went supernova. I'm only still reading this thread for the projection and the tinfoil. It's honestly funny at this point.
Natural in EVE that everyone argues from the perspective of their own advantage. Thats what the forum minigame is all about!
Nonetheless, the simple adage: "adapt", is always applicable.
One doesnt have to like it and one can lobby for change, but thats the where the bottomline is drawn that distinguishes between entitled whining and HTFU/dealing with it.
Its pretty funny that organisations of thousands are players with all their vast resources, huge expanses of space, and centuries of collective experience are whining that "Plz, CCP! A single disposable frigate is trolling and annoying us! Make it stop, abloo-bloo!"
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13981
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:17:30 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Natural in EVE that everyone argues from the perspective of their own advantage.
Idk about you, but I honestly do not think the entire playerbase is incapable of objectivity. A large amount, certainly, but not all by any means.
But then, a thief will always be willing to believe that another man will steal, as it were.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:27:03 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:But then, a thief will always be willing to believe that another man will steal, as it were.
Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us. Every man has their price.
Furthermore those in EVE with the naive notion that other men wouldnt, will be in for a sound reality check.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13981
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:28:53 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us. Every man has their price.
Whoosh.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:45:43 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote: Opportunity makes a thief of even the best of us. Every man has their price.
Whoosh.
The legitimized conduct of CODE and its valiant moral defenders of the rights of innocent defenceless asteroids in HS not withstanding, ofc.
Rebound. Swoosh.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13981
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:48:10 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: The legitimized morality of CODE and its valiant moral defenders of the rights of innocent defenceless asteroids in HS not withstanding, ofc.
Now I remember you. You're the fake lawyer, right? I had forgotten, for a moment I wasn't sure if you were actually this lacking in self awareness, or if I was just being trolled.
I am now no longer unsure.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 08:49:08 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Now I remember you. You're the fake lawyer, right? I had forgotten, for a moment I wasn't sure if you were actually this lacking in self awareness, or if I was just being trolled.
I am now no longer unsure.
Boring ad hominem.
Seems your scars still run deep.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6499
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Posted - 2015.08.06 10:19:51 -
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Just FYI, we have adapted. That's why we continue to own space. That doesn't stop us from pointing out how insanely boring the game mechanics we've had to adapt to are though. That's how developers get feedback to improve their game. If we all just got on with it in silence they'd never know the mistakes they make until it's too late to fix. It's not that we can't deal with trollceptors, but repeatedly doing so is dull.
And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
82
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Posted - 2015.08.06 10:48:19 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Just FYI, we have adapted. That's why we continue to own space. That doesn't stop us from pointing out how insanely boring the game mechanics we've had to adapt to are though. That's how developers get feedback to improve their game. If we all just got on with it in silence they'd never know the mistakes they make until it's too late to fix. It's not that we can't deal with trollceptors, but repeatedly doing so is dull.
And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?
You have adapter but like others, you left a lot of gaps, otherwise you would not be here complaining due to the continued herassment. I dont see why its boring ot pvp. Cos thats what you are saying. You are too bored to catch a "trollceptor". Adapt further, move out or face the consequences. No one asked you to put strucutures in a space you dont live. Thats your fault! And if youa re too bored to chase after the "trollceptor" then maybe you should change profession. |
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Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
32
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:01:40 -
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Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless. |
Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
82
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:11:08 -
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Grouchy Smurf wrote: So, why don't you capture them? The idea of FozzieSov is to allow small alliances to fight and control areas of space from larger entities. Something that couldn't be done with Dominion mechanics. All those structures are open to capture, yet no small alliance has claimed them. And it makes no difference whatsoever to Imperium since the few members that live there still do their thing.
We dont capture them when you deploy the whole alliance to a system. I think in the past we have captured systems. The difference is you did not threw everything at us that time. We dont give you the good fight which translate to CFC as blobbing the hell of someone. We fight on our terms, not yours. Continue to blob us please. Isnt that time of the month yet? |
Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
82
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:12:23 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless.
hypocracy and then complain why they are not having fun |
Damien Power
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:15:59 -
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I hate the Fossisov stuff.. I left nullsec because 1) the vulnerable times. Nothing really happens until the timer that was set begins but like mentioned before you get mostly trolls just being annoying and not really creating content.
Hardly anyone is active except a couple guys who are ratting/mining just to increase the timer.
And when I say active I'm talking about people who actually undock! Not have 30 to 80 online sitting in station because they logged in and went to work just to appear online and active.
You harldy have any big opps or even small opps in this case. Yea I can fly around hoping to find someone trolling your area But that's boring!
I trained all my accounts to fly cap ships and now they don't even get used now! Mostly because you see a system being entosed I guess you can say that Lol you fly to check the system And like mentioned before they run away! It's hard to get people to want to roam in small fleets because the chances are high that all you will find is a ceptor or a tech1 destroyer and occasionally a small camp with a bubble maybe 2 to 3 guys at most. But those guys are only looking for single pilots to gank who aren't immune to bubbles.
All in all its boring .
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6499
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:22:02 -
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Icycle wrote:You have adapter but like others, you left a lot of gaps, otherwise you would not be here complaining due to the continued herassment. I dont see why its boring ot pvp. Cos thats what you are saying. You are too bored to catch a "trollceptor". Adapt further, move out or face the consequences. No one asked you to put strucutures in a space you dont live. Thats your fault! And if youa re too bored to chase after the "trollceptor" then maybe you should change profession. Swing and a miss. Once again we are not talking about space we don't live in. Fozziesov is boring in space we do live in too. I'm guessing either english isn't your native language or you have sever memory issues, since we've covered this at least 10 times now.
Akballah Kassan wrote:Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless. *shrug* These things have always and will always happen. It's how we ensure there's content with groups when we don't want to mutually destroy each other or waste each other's time lasering structures back and forth. The other option of course would be we go full blue and then you lot would cry even more about the blue doughnut. You'd know that if you weren't led by someone with the social skills of a demented squirrel. It doesn't make the sov system any less terrible. If anything it's a sign that sov is a failure because we're having to go around it to create content.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
82
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:24:24 -
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Damien Power wrote:I hate the Fossisov stuff.. I left nullsec because 1) the vulnerable times. Nothing really happens until the timer that was set begins but like mentioned before you get mostly trolls just being annoying and not really creating content.
Hardly anyone is active except a couple guys who are ratting/mining just to increase the timer.
And when I say active I'm talking about people who actually undock! Not have 30 to 80 online sitting in station because they logged in and went to work just to appear online and active.
You harldy have any big opps or even small opps in this case. Yea I can fly around hoping to find someone trolling your area But that's boring!
I trained all my accounts to fly cap ships and now they don't even get used now! Mostly because you see a system being entosed I guess you can say that Lol you fly to check the system And like mentioned before they run away! It's hard to get people to want to roam in small fleets because the chances are high that all you will find is a ceptor or a tech1 destroyer and occasionally a small camp with a bubble maybe 2 to 3 guys at most. But those guys are only looking for single pilots to gank who aren't immune to bubbles.
All in all its boring .
This is total bs. I dont want to be rude but there is no other way to say it. People are ratting and mining to make isk and not to increase the timers. You dont need that much effort to keep or increase the timers. If you really want to do that you can form a 100 man fleet and do it in two days to almost maxed out from almost zero. People are doing it for isk. To maintain an index level, you actually need very little activity. There are about 10 CFC renters in pure blind and they have max 5 people at a time in a system. They have kept the index up. If those renters can do it with 5 people surelly anyone can. Unless you are doing it wrong or the system is been constantly reinforced. Which has nothing to do with index level but more the inability to protect a system.
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bumblesquat
Paragon Trust The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:36:10 -
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The entosis mechanic has just been blue ball after blue ball. Not yet had a single fight as a result of someone using an Entosis link. Pvp characters in fleet whilst i go off ratting with another alt. Hasn't slowed the isk making. Has just meant I've had to log on another character and fly him to a system to afk at a gate. And yes, lots more World of Warships.
If you want more high-sec players to come out to null, then i think you need to make null a greater place to live than high-sec. If your worried about vast groups owning too much space, then may some sort of limits on the amount of space a set number of accounts( not characters for obvious reasons) can hold - that being said, could mean more unused space so JB's can remain in place.
I don't think making Sov holders irritated by trolls is the way to create movement.
Albeit, it has been something to log on for, e.g. when Moa goes on a little roam, it gives the evil Goonies something to log on and play with. Ironically, i think Moa would do more damage to the CFC if they just stopped providing content.
I'd like to see a new power to grow to create another great war. Maybe creating an incentive to form new coalitions without benefiting the CFC. |
Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
83
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:36:27 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Swing and a miss. Once again we are not talking about space we don't live in. Fozziesov is boring in space we do live in too. I'm guessing either english isn't your native language or you have sever memory issues, since we've covered this at least 10 times now.
While english is not my first language, it does not have to do with memory issue. If I had memory issues I would not speak so many languages. Spanish, English, Russian, French and a bit of German. Whats wrong with chasing a neutral ceptor? I know we do it all the time in our home. So why you complain about chasing out a neutral in your space specially when its in space you occupy. Why is this neutral ceptor hurting you so much? Why you find boring chasing after pvp ship? Or you dont like pvp?
Lucas Kell wrote: *shrug* These things have always and will always happen. It's how we ensure there's content with groups when we don't want to mutually destroy each other or waste each other's time lasering structures back and forth. The other option of course would be we go full blue and then you lot would cry even more about the blue doughnut. You'd know that if you weren't led by someone with the social skills of a demented squirrel. It doesn't make the sov system any less terrible. If anything it's a sign that sov is a failure because we're having to go around it to create content.
I dont care about blue donut. Frantically for me its more targets. What bothers me is the people complain about not been able to shoot sothing or not been fun and then set blue donut half of null or set stupid rules what you can or cannot attack. Why complain then. Need to shut up about it. Or change it. Or deploy to an enemy base but not sit your ass at home and complain. People like these are whiners and lazy and dont want to do anything for themselves. |
Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:39:09 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Just FYI, we have adapted.
And oh yeah, I remember you. Didn't you ragequit or something?
Good to hear you've adapted. Good for you, son. Im sure you personally had a lot to do with that rather than whining on forums.
Cos whining repeatedly about a disposable frigate annoying and upsetting an organisation of thousands of players in control of most of known space sort of gave an opposite impression, if you know what I mean.
No, I didnt ragequit. Returned to studies warm with victory for a bit.
Thought you did, though.
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Avanda Redblade
SL33P3R C3LL
0
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:48:46 -
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Scalding Holland wrote:All sovereignty changes CCP have introduced since POS claimship have ruined this game. EVE has some realism under POS warfare. This nonsense with anomalies and beacons popping up for us to sit around hours to capture is killing the game. Notwithstanding the possibility of this being a troll, there must be at least a tiny element of truth in this as so many ex-nullies have migrated to wormhole life where POS establishment and destruction defines the "sovereignty" of a wormhole system in a true sandbox style.
Got to love the purity. |
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
84
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Posted - 2015.08.06 11:53:00 -
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Avanda Redblade wrote:Scalding Holland wrote:All sovereignty changes CCP have introduced since POS claimship have ruined this game. EVE has some realism under POS warfare. This nonsense with anomalies and beacons popping up for us to sit around hours to capture is killing the game. Notwithstanding the possibility of this being a troll, there must be at least a tiny element of truth in this as so many ex-nullies have migrated to wormhole life where POS establishment and destruction defines the "sovereignty" of a wormhole system in a true sandbox style. Got to love the purity.
People moved to wormhole cos its easy isk. Also a lot of isk and they do provide a lot of pvp too. So you get best of both. In null you have to abide by all the blue donuts. I think soon you may have the same with whs. There are a lot of wh entities that are setting each other to blue now. |
Salvos Rhoska
1203
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:01:54 -
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WHs are imo one of CCPs crowning and finest achievements.
Really outstanding work and design. Perhaps because they didnt have to compromise with existing power blocs of interest. But aside from that speculation, its excellent lateral thinking in action that Id like to see more of.
I think migration to them is more an issue of the whole hole (pun intended) concept being so functional, than it is of Sov problems. Perhaps thats a glass half full attitude, but I thinknits warranted.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6499
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:16:41 -
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Icycle wrote:While english is not my first language, it does not have to do with memory issue. If I had memory issues I would not speak so many languages. Spanish, English, Russian, French and a bit of German. So what is it then? Why do you need to be corrected on every other post since you start wandering off on a tangent talking about undefended sov when clearly the discussion is about the mechanics of actively used space?
Icycle wrote:Whats wrong with chasing a neutral ceptor? I know we do it all the time in our home. So why you complain about chasing out a neutral in your space specially when its in space you occupy. Why is this neutral ceptor hurting you so much? Why you find boring chasing after pvp ship? Or you dont like pvp? I love PvP, I just don't consider chasing a cheap ship designed for evasion to be PvP. It's boring, and if you do catch him there no real loss. For me, combat needs to be about commitment. Fozziesov lacks that.
Icycle wrote:I dont care about blue donut. Frantically for me its more targets. What bothers me is the people complain about not been able to shoot sothing or not been fun and then set blue donut half of null or set stupid rules what you can or cannot attack. Who we set blue is irrelevant to how dull the mechanics are. Even if I were completely solo, I'd not want to fire mining lasers at structures or chase disposable ships. Besides, the comment was a response to us not setting blue, but arranging people to fight with. We are creating content because fozziesov has failed to do so and you guys, our "biggest enemies" (lol), are too scared to put more than frigates on the line.
Icycle wrote:Why complain then. Need to shut up about it. Or change it. Or deploy to an enemy base but not sit your ass at home and complain. People like these are whiners and lazy and dont want to do anything for themselves. Lol? Like how you guys have complained for years about sov mechanics and how unfair it is on you? Hypocrite.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:18:37 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Good to hear you've adapted. Good for you, son. Im sure you personally had a lot to do with that rather than whining on forums.
Cos whining repeatedly about a disposable frigate annoying and upsetting an organisation of thousands of players in control of most of known space sort of gave an opposite impression, if you know what I mean. Are you suggesting that when we see bad mechanics that lead to boring, stagnant gameplay we should simply ignore them, rather than raising our concerns with the game developer? Sounds like you're a bit of a pushover. Fight for what you want mate.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:No, I didnt ragequit. Returned to studies warm with victory for a bit. Before or after you got banned?
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
1034
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:25:06 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless. If anything, it gives his statements more standing. Since Fozziesov is not generating worthwhile content, and few who have tried the mechanics care for it at all, people are resorting to diplomatic means of finding fights, and bypassing the tedious sov mechanics altogether. Fights are definitely still happening. It's just that almost none of them have actually been caused by the new sov mechanics. |
Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
32
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:32:55 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Akballah Kassan wrote:Lucas Kelly after reading that Space Monkeys have come to some kind of "let's fight but don't threaten sov" type agreement with your new small alliances neighbours in Cloud Ring your complaints about Fozziesov are meaningless. If anything, it gives his statements more standing. Since Fozziesov is not generating worthwhile content, and few who have tried the mechanics care for it at all, people are resorting to diplomatic means of finding fights, and bypassing the tedious sov mechanics altogether. Fights are definitely still happening. It's just that almost none of them have actually been caused by the new sov mechanics. I disagree completely. What it tells me is that SMA never want to or intend to fight any kind of sov war no matter what mechanics are chosen. They would rather fight in pre arranged contests then actually risk their sov being attacked. |
Damien Power
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:34:09 -
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Actually I love pvp!
It's the chicken shi@ people who come to a system that is on the outer side of the area your alliance controls and runs soon as they see you come to system!
And as far as ratting in a system! Maybe you should consider the fact that most of us players who have been playing since 2008 and earlier don't need isk because we have plenty. It's the alliance leaders who require the couple who are willing to run sites To increase the defence!
Most older players trained into cap ships ect for large scale fights and those fights are being reduced with these changes.
So yes it is boring! Especially when those timers are ending by the time you get home from Real life stuff.
Yes I could change alliances to find someone who's timers are in my Tz but even then its rare to have a good cap/super cap fight against your enemies. Yea I can move a super and say! I'm going to try and solo these guys in a super because I want to use it but that's just plain stupid!
Goons and mordus making comments but yet you guys complain about each other about the same things!
Goons bringing big fleets to camp mordus in station and goons saying mordus runs from them most of the time (so they claim) Yea that cat and mouse game sounds sooooo exciting. ( hey Bob!) Nobody is in this system right now lets try to put it in reinforce before they show up! OK let's hurry it will be funny if we can! Wonder how many times someone said this? Obviously not the name (Bob) just an example.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
85
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Posted - 2015.08.06 12:49:11 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: I love PvP, I just don't consider chasing a cheap ship designed for evasion to be PvP. It's boring, and if you do catch him there no real loss. For me, combat needs to be about commitment. Fozziesov lacks that.
lol since when ceptors are evasion of pvp? Are you mad? What does the class name says. INTERCEPTOR. Its for interception and tackling which all is pvp. It does not say Rookie ship or Transport ship. I was in a entosis ship the other day. What you call a "troll ceptor". I had an entosis link and I was tackling. If you dont concider that pvp, I dont know what is. Just cos you got some kind of mis concepted notion of what pvp is, you cant blast this non sence.
Lucas Kell wrote: Who we set blue is irrelevant to how dull the mechanics are. Even if I were completely solo, I'd not want to fire mining lasers at structures or chase disposable ships. Besides, the comment was a response to us not setting blue, but arranging people to fight with. We are creating content because fozziesov has failed to do so and you guys, our "biggest enemies" (lol), are too scared to put more than frigates on the line.
CCP does has gone through an effort to create content for you since you blued everyone. In reality you should have created the content not the other way around. I am telling you. Pure lazyness
Lucas Kell wrote: Lol? Like how you guys have complained for years about sov mechanics and how unfair it is on you? Hypocrite.
We have had some complained in the past but nothing to this waterfall of tears. The game before was about blobbing before and after reinforce. Completelly negated guerilla warfare. While Fozzy sov has not fully removed this(it should still have both capabilities) it has given back a lot of action. Nothing to do with blobbing, setting to blue, crying there are no targets and not reseting standings, puttung stupid rules in what can you fight and not deploying and complaiing to everyone. I am sure if you are a reasonable man there is something in your mind that says, I got a point here... |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
384
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Posted - 2015.08.06 13:02:51 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:According to eve offline, approximately this time last year, eve had about 26k folk averaging online while now its down to 21k. The trend of decreasing online activity appears to be continuing despite fozzie sov with 18k over the last 36 hrs, 21k over the last week and 32k over the last 6 mos. While last year there was a summer decline, it was no where near has steep as this year. What ever can be said for fozzie sov, it has proven itself to not be eve Jesus. There has been no significant numbers of incoming folk, at least enough to outweigh the bitter vets it drove off, nor does it appear to have driven large numbers of players from empire to null. In fact, it appears that opinion can be broken down as follows: (1) the majority of eve folk, i.e. non-null dwellers, who view it as "meh" (2) null dwellers, who view it as "could be better."
Some of us wanted actual alternate gameplay in the forms of WiS, ambulatory/exploration combat similar to Mass Effect, along with full Dust integration to actually make living the dream a little less two dimensional.
But angry mobs of internet cavemen were like "GRRRRRRRRR SPACESHIPS! ME WANT DO SAME STUFF AS BEEN DOING FOREVER"
As it turns out, doing more of the same crap isn't actually all that compelling. So now you guys get to enjoy your falling subs from a stale game.
It doesn't matter if Fozzie replaces pinata with whack-a-mole. 10 year tally wackers are not going to suddenly feel as if their world has been revolutionized. If this is the entire scope of the current CCP staff, maybe its time to get some new staff. |
Salvos Rhoska
1206
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Posted - 2015.08.06 13:06:41 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Are you suggesting that when we see bad mechanics that lead to boring, stagnant gameplay we should simply ignore them, rather than raising our concerns with the game developer? Sounds like you're a bit of a pushover. Fight for what you want mate.
Before or after you got banned?
"Are you suggesting" is basically an attempt to force words down someones throat that they have never said, and fail.
For example: "Are you suggesting that I suggested that you suggested, that he suggested etc". Leads nowhere and is an argumentative flaw.
I didnt suggest anything. If I suggest something, I will say "I suggest xxx".
I STATED (not suggested) that someone (you) from organisations of thousands of players controlling most of know space whining about a single disposable frigate is rather pathetic.
As to the changes having lead to stagnant boring gameplay, well, thats just like your opinion, man. Many others in this very thread have a different and contradictory one, equally as valid as yours.
I dont see you raising your concerns with the game developer. By all means, start a thread addressed to CCP and do so. Instead I see you whining and arguing with other players that your opinion and preference trumps theirs.
I fight for what I want, everyday. But not by whining or claiming my opinion trumps others, but by concrete action towards and addressed to those who can affect change.
Its the difference between you whining to other customers at a shop and getting mad at them for not agreeing with you, rather than whining to the staff who can sctually do something about it or give a **** about ypur personal opinion.
You are doing the former. I "suggest" you do the latter. Put your money where your mouth is. Formulate an argument and direct it here to CCP. Put what you got down in text, address it to CCP here, and lets discuss it. Im all for that.
And as for my short forum ban, thats between me and CCP and none of your beeswax. I dutifully HTFP and did my time. Thats all there is to it.
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